Perfect... 98 out of the pitchers hand... 93 off the bat...
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@Red_Ted_is_back said in Perfect... 98 out of the pitchers hand... 93 off the bat...:
@Ikasnu said in Perfect... 98 out of the pitchers hand... 93 off the bat...:
@Vipersneak said in Perfect... 98 out of the pitchers hand... 93 off the bat...:
@Ikasnu said in Perfect... 98 out of the pitchers hand... 93 off the bat...:
That is something that 100% should be fixed. Regardless of the power stat, perfect perfect should always have equal or greater exit velo.
So even a perfect perfect bunt should have higher exit velo? The power or strength of a hitter of course should matter. If a 4 year old accidentally hit a ball with perfect timing and contact then the exit velo should be over 100 mph? You and others here obviously know zero about physics. Think of a wall being the batter. A pitcher throws the ball at the wall and the wall (with no power of its own) puts and equal and opposite force on the ball so the ball will rebound, but it isn't going anywhere and certainly not at a rate higher than the pitch was. The wall will absorb most of the balls energy and it will just bounce off. Perfect timing and perfect contact have nothing to do with how much power is put into a swing. It still takes a power from the batter to drive the ball at a speed higher than the pitch comes in. What you are suggesting is that no swing is even needed as long as there is perfect contact and perfect timing.
So are you dumb or just stupid?
How about an explanation instead of just hurling insults? That’s what this fellow has gone to the effort of doing. Science is about asking questions of the non-rhetoric kind.
Remember all of those flat-earthers who shut down the questions about the world possibly being round? We all laugh at them, not the ones who theorised.
Wait, what? The world is round? If the world is round, then why aren't baseballs flat?
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That is a perfectly acceptable outcome with 51 power.
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Moran's top dot is the smallest of the three, clearly indicating that is his weakest contact point.
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51 power means he doesn't swing as hard. 99mph fastball even when barreled requires enough force in the swing to hit the ball harder than it's pitched.
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Pitch is at the bottom of the zone.
If you got that in the middle or lower dot and gotten a line drive or ground ball you probably would've had a better chance for a hit. This wans't a you problem, it was a Bronze Colin Moran problem
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@coastereight said in Perfect... 98 out of the pitchers hand... 93 off the bat...:
@Red_Ted_is_back said in Perfect... 98 out of the pitchers hand... 93 off the bat...:
@Ikasnu said in Perfect... 98 out of the pitchers hand... 93 off the bat...:
@Vipersneak said in Perfect... 98 out of the pitchers hand... 93 off the bat...:
@Ikasnu said in Perfect... 98 out of the pitchers hand... 93 off the bat...:
That is something that 100% should be fixed. Regardless of the power stat, perfect perfect should always have equal or greater exit velo.
So even a perfect perfect bunt should have higher exit velo? The power or strength of a hitter of course should matter. If a 4 year old accidentally hit a ball with perfect timing and contact then the exit velo should be over 100 mph? You and others here obviously know zero about physics. Think of a wall being the batter. A pitcher throws the ball at the wall and the wall (with no power of its own) puts and equal and opposite force on the ball so the ball will rebound, but it isn't going anywhere and certainly not at a rate higher than the pitch was. The wall will absorb most of the balls energy and it will just bounce off. Perfect timing and perfect contact have nothing to do with how much power is put into a swing. It still takes a power from the batter to drive the ball at a speed higher than the pitch comes in. What you are suggesting is that no swing is even needed as long as there is perfect contact and perfect timing.
So are you dumb or just stupid?
How about an explanation instead of just hurling insults? That’s what this fellow has gone to the effort of doing. Science is about asking questions of the non-rhetoric kind.
Remember all of those flat-earthers who shut down the questions about the world possibly being round? We all laugh at them, not the ones who theorised.
Wait, what? The world is round? If the world is round, then why aren't baseballs flat?
If the Earth was flat cats would have knocked everything off by now.
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If we are talking about exit velocities then let’s talk about how Michael Lorenzen had the highest average exit velocity of any player in the MLB last year. That includes Aaron Judge and Joey Gallo. Let’s give Lorenzen the power he deserves SDS, 100 power minimum
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My entire point is that perfect timing and perfect contact (perfect/perfect in this game) are not the most important thing when it comes to exit velocity. Bat speed is the most important thing. For example, a wall always has perfect timing and contact, but it has no bat speed. So saying that the batters power (or bat speed) does not matter is completely wrong. People are literally saying that the batter should not matter as long as the ball is hit perfect/perfect, and that is not true. A batter with a lower power rating is not going to hit the ball, on average, with as much exit velocity as someone with a higher power rating. You would think this is obvious, I guess not.
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As a coach, give me a player with poor mechanics and great bat speed, and I will always take him over the player with great mechanics and poor bat speed.
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iT hAPpeNs iN rEAl bAsEBaLl....wait nvm. Game has too much RNG elements to keep it scripted.
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@SatrdaysR4DaBoys said in Perfect... 98 out of the pitchers hand... 93 off the bat...:
I had this happen to me in RS. Not as bad but 100mph in, Perfect-Perfect, 98MPH out. And this bottom 9th 2 outs in a tie game. Ball died in CF and I lost in extra innings.
The script was in. This game 100% has those scripted mechanics like Fifa Ultimate team had, someone exposed that looking through its code a few years back. Other guy probably spend more on microtranscations than you.
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@Rambo_11k said in Perfect... 98 out of the pitchers hand... 93 off the bat...:
iT hAPpeNs iN rEAl bAsEBaLl
Only when the bat breaks.
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@coastereight said in Perfect... 98 out of the pitchers hand... 93 off the bat...:
Yeah I just calculated it out and the bat speed would have to be around 5 mph to get and exit velo of 93 on a 98 mph heater lmao I knew taking that physics course would come in handy one day
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@TiKi_L1ON said in Perfect... 98 out of the pitchers hand... 93 off the bat...:
@coastereight said in Perfect... 98 out of the pitchers hand... 93 off the bat...:
Yeah I just calculated it out and the bat speed would have to be around 5 mph to get and exit velo of 93 on a 98 mph heater lmao I knew taking that physics course would come in handy one day
Show your work
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I hit a no-doubter with Cano (mariners) against a lefty (he has 45 power vs LHP) in a conquest game on All-star. It was a good contact hit, not perfect, which makes absolutely no sense! Either attributes mean nothing or it is just a bit too random!
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@ChuckCLC said in Perfect... 98 out of the pitchers hand... 93 off the bat...:
@bruno4132 said in Perfect... 98 out of the pitchers hand... 93 off the bat...:
Wow this game is so broken
The game is nowhere near "broken". There are definitely some aspects of it that need work though. Just like any other game. But I think we are over using that word. If this game is "broken" then most games out there are straight trash.
Yes, must games out there are straight trash and must of us would never play them, this game is headed that way too. Diamond infielders making errors every game, perfect release on pitches going to the middle of the play, inconsistent results when hitting that are not possible irl. Outside of the way the game looks, I say is broken.
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@TiKi_L1ON said in Perfect... 98 out of the pitchers hand... 93 off the bat...:
@coastereight said in Perfect... 98 out of the pitchers hand... 93 off the bat...:
Yeah I just calculated it out and the bat speed would have to be around 5 mph to get and exit velo of 93 on a 98 mph heater lmao I knew taking that physics course would come in handy one day
Then you did the problem wrong. The pitch speed in the equation must start out as negative exit velocity vector since it is coming toward to batter.
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Good lord this is dumb.
First of all, it most certainly is physically possible to barrel the ball and hit is slower than the pitch speed. Things that factor into exit velocity include: mass of batter, mass of bat used by batter, speed of bat, speed of ball, spin of ball leaving bat, trajectory of bat leaving ball.
Second, a pitch thrown 98 MPH is NOT traveling 98 MPH when it hits the bat, it's traveling 98 MPH a few feet in front of the pitcher. The ball, due to drag, will lose about 1 MPH per 7 ft traveled. Therefore, if a pitch is 98 MPH 53 ft from home plate, and is contacted a foot in front of home plate, then the ball was moving 90-91 MPH when contacted.
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You should use normal swing and not “super extra light just swing with only your arms and make contact with the ball” swing. Because that’s The only physical way that could happen in real life.
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@Vipersneak said in Perfect... 98 out of the pitchers hand... 93 off the bat...:
@TiKi_L1ON said in Perfect... 98 out of the pitchers hand... 93 off the bat...:
@coastereight said in Perfect... 98 out of the pitchers hand... 93 off the bat...:
Yeah I just calculated it out and the bat speed would have to be around 5 mph to get and exit velo of 93 on a 98 mph heater lmao I knew taking that physics course would come in handy one day
Then you did the problem wrong. The pitch speed in the equation must start out as negative exit velocity vector since it is coming toward to batter.
Nope did it right. The exit velo coefficient for a "perfect barrel" in warm conditions is between 0.1 and 0.2 so I used 0.15... The equation was coffitient*pitch Speed + (1+coeffitient)*batspeed at Impact.
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@hegone44 said in Perfect... 98 out of the pitchers hand... 93 off the bat...:
Good lord this is dumb.
First of all, it most certainly is physically possible to barrel the ball and hit is slower than the pitch speed. Things that factor into exit velocity include: mass of batter, mass of bat used by batter, speed of bat, speed of ball, spin of ball leaving bat, trajectory of bat leaving ball.
Second, a pitch thrown 98 MPH is NOT traveling 98 MPH when it hits the bat, it's traveling 98 MPH a few feet in front of the pitcher. The ball, due to drag, will lose about 1 MPH per 7 ft traveled. Therefore, if a pitch is 98 MPH 53 ft from home plate, and is contacted a foot in front of home plate, then the ball was moving 90-91 MPH when contacted.
Spin has a huge impact on distance. Fastballs require the bat to completely change the direction of spin, where as a curveball with top spin the bat accelerated the spin in the same direction. It's why curveballs are hit farther than fastballs despite traveling slower.
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@TiKi_L1ON said in Perfect... 98 out of the pitchers hand... 93 off the bat...:
@Vipersneak said in Perfect... 98 out of the pitchers hand... 93 off the bat...:
@TiKi_L1ON said in Perfect... 98 out of the pitchers hand... 93 off the bat...:
@coastereight said in Perfect... 98 out of the pitchers hand... 93 off the bat...:
Yeah I just calculated it out and the bat speed would have to be around 5 mph to get and exit velo of 93 on a 98 mph heater lmao I knew taking that physics course would come in handy one day
Then you did the problem wrong. The pitch speed in the equation must start out as negative exit velocity vector since it is coming toward to batter.
Nope did it right. The exit velo coefficient for a "perfect barrel" in warm conditions is between 0.1 and 0.2 so I used 0.15... The equation was coffitient*pitch Speed + (1+coeffitient)*batspeed at Impact.
That is right. So your math is wrong. It comes out to about 62 mph bat speed if the coefficient is 0.2, which is what it is for a normal wood bat. You also have to take into account that a 99 mph pitch will be about 90 mph when it reaches the plate. Try the math again, maybe I am wrong.
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Exit Velo = 93 = (0.2)(90) + (1+0.2)(bat speed)
93= 18 + 1.2(bat speed)
75= 1.2 (bat speed)
bat speed = 62.5 mph
