Not a fan of new pitching rotation rule anymore
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I think people will use starters out of the pen less frequently once we get better bullpen arms. Right now, a lot of people’s’ most reliable pitchers are starters. I know I don’t have many relief pitchers I trust.
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@floating_goat34 said in Not a fan of new pitching rotation rule anymore:
I think people will use starters out of the pen less frequently once we get better bullpen arms. Right now, a lot of people’s’ most reliable pitchers are starters. I know I don’t have many relief pitchers I trust.
Yep. There's only a couple relievers I'm comfortable with right now... Nick Anderson, Kerry Wood & Osuna. Pitch like [censored] with most others, including Mo Rivera.
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I haven't bought the game this year (yet?) because of all of the issues people are posting. Are you telling me that you can now put starters in as relievers?
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It was a good idea by SDS but of course people have to exploit.
Here's my solution. Allow us to put one starting pitcher in the bullpen before the game. Let it be a max 84 overall. Do not let us hit R1 and have access to our whole starting rotation. problem solved.
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My Rockies tried using a four man rotation a few years ago...did not work out too well, but it was a legitimate MLB strategy.
Long relievers like Charlie Morton (Classics Pack) will be very useful. Pairing him with a # 5starter as a long reliever is not a horrible way to go.
We just need to adjust the way we think about game. In years past we were rewarded for pushing a starter as far into the game as we could. This year we we'll get more mileage if we are quicker with the hook and rely more heavily on our bullpen arms. This is what will keep the starting four well rested.
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@AlphaDag13 said in Not a fan of new pitching rotation rule anymore:
I haven't bought the game this year (yet?) because of all of the issues people are posting. Are you telling me that you can now put starters in as relievers?
Yes.
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A new signature starter comes out tomorrow so expect to see him alot, unless he's like...Cliff Lee.
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As usual, sds comes up with a good idea and as always bungles the implementation and leaves exploits.
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Yeah they definitely get energy too fast. It should take 4 games to get to full strength. They also could make it progressive so you get less energy back the first couple games and more back in the last game. So a guy stays in the red the first 2 days rest (making him not that usable), then goes yellow after 2 days rest (making him usable out of the pen after 2 days rest, but this throws him back into the red), and not 100% green until after 4 days rest.
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@D27J said in Not a fan of new pitching rotation rule anymore:
@floating_goat34 said in Not a fan of new pitching rotation rule anymore:
I think people will use starters out of the pen less frequently once we get better bullpen arms. Right now, a lot of people’s’ most reliable pitchers are starters. I know I don’t have many relief pitchers I trust.
Yep. There's only a couple relievers I'm comfortable with right now... Nick Anderson, Kerry Wood & Osuna. Pitch like [censored] with most others, including Mo Rivera.
Doolittle, wood, chappy, ottavino fb, gange..... feierbend
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Once i saw how quickly energy comes back i knew all you need is 3 dominant starters and thats all you will be facing until the season is over and people startcmoving on to other games.
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Last years game was no different apart from bringing them out of the pen. Out of the 10 games you played, Kershaw would appear at least 6 times in ranked seasons.
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Some changes I'd make personally: SP energy takes longer to regenerate & don't allow a SP to come in relief until all RP/CP have been used.
I brought in Oswalt behind Sale because I had tough luck yesterday, and I wasn't going to let a W slip by me.
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@HShawFSU said in Not a fan of new pitching rotation rule anymore:
Some changes I'd make personally: SP energy takes longer to regenerate & don't allow a SP to come in relief until all RP/CP have been used.
I brought in Oswalt behind Sale because I had tough luck yesterday, and I wasn't going to let a W slip by me.
The problem I have with not being able to use them unless all of your RP/CP are used, what happens when you used a reliever the game before and he's absolutely gassed? Then you'd be throwing a gassed reliever to the slaughter. I absolutely agree that there should be some sort of limit, but I don't believe that this is the way to do it.
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Just make starters burn 2x energy when used as a reliever. Maybe even lock in your rotation every 5 games.
Make it punitive to keep using them from the pen. Make control and velocity dip massively when into the yellow.
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I think a lot of the problem has to do with the fact that most people don't have enough cards that can realistically match up to Kluber or Hal. Unless you've collected the entire MLB, chances are you don't have many endgame hitters on your roster. Once more and more cards get released, I think we'll stop seeing this strategy being utilized, or at least it will be reduced
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Two things need to be done.
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Starters should only come out of the pen of either...
A. An Opener was used
B. Bullpen has been exhausted.
If option A is used, the starter chosen is locked in until option B happens. -
Stamina needs to regenerate slower (3 games for 80% regeneration) and include a penalty for using starters who are less than 75%.
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Or... maybe if people stopped quitting before the 3rd inning it’d work just fine. I’m 20-1 and I’m not sure I’ve had to finish more than 2 games all the way through. To this point I haven’t even needed a 3rd pitcher except that I wanted to use Ohtani so I took a break from the Oswalt & Kluber pattern
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@frizbgirl22 said in Not a fan of new pitching rotation rule anymore:
Or... maybe if people stopped quitting before the 3rd inning it’d work just fine. I’m 20-1 and I’m not sure I’ve had to finish more than 2 games all the way through. To this point I haven’t even needed a 3rd pitcher except that I wanted to use Ohtani so I took a break from the Oswalt & Kluber pattern
This is true. Too many quitters out there make it really easy to rejuvenate arms. I’m 22-2 in RS and rarely go the distance.
But that’s because hitting is too easy. So when someone goes up 4-0, 5-0, in the first two innings, people quit.
And hitting is too easy for one reason: the umpires do not call every pitch that touches the black a strike. It’s been a problem for years.
They need to program the umpires to call balls and strikes as it is written in the rule book: if any part of the ball touches any part of the zone, it’s a strike.
I know they don’t call half the pitches on the black for strikes. So why swing? There is no need to protect the plate. Sit back, wait for your pitch and, bam! Base hit.
Pitchers are nothing but BBQ chicken in this game. I don’t care who you throw out there. I’m eating.
