Do I have to buy a monitor now?
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I'm in a weird place. I faced Kopech yesterday, couldn't touch him. Faced Kluber last night, lit him the [censored] up and hit a Slam even. I can't explain it. I was very late on all the fastballs, then later good/early on them.
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@Rambo_11k said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
I play on a Monitor and they have the timing window so messed up. Your not missing out on anything with how this game is currently playing.
Same here man. Plugged my PS4 to my TCL 5 series from my monitor and I still play as shitty as I do on my Samsung 4k IPS 4ms monitor.
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@CubanDoctor21 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
A lot of tvs now have good input lag. Im about to put 55 inch TCL in my mancave with 11 ms input lag. $268
5 series? I came close to buying the 55" 6 series, but went with a monitor instead which I kinda regret now. I own the 5 series right now but was going to upgrade to the 6
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@SVTJOEY760 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
With the increased pitch speeds, I can’t hit anything over 97 mph. I’m in the 700ish rating and Jesus hard throwers are the meta. It sucks I really can’t afford a monitor right now to have fun with the game. Thanks SDS
If you want to play competitively online, then yes, you need a monitor. And it's not just because of the latest patch. I've been using one since 2015 and haven't looked back. Monitor users have always had an advantage.
Do you have to have one to play the game? No. But competitive online play is a different story. That's just the way it goes and it's not SDS fault. I believe any online competitive game requires better equipment to keep up with other players. Fair or not that's just the way it goes. -
@thinkbluedgr said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@SVTJOEY760 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
With the increased pitch speeds, I can’t hit anything over 97 mph. I’m in the 700ish rating and Jesus hard throwers are the meta. It sucks I really can’t afford a monitor right now to have fun with the game. Thanks SDS
If you want to play competitively online, then yes, you need a monitor. And it's not just because of the latest patch. I've been using one since 2015 and haven't looked back. Monitor users have always had an advantage.
Do you have to have one to play the game? No. But competitive online play is a different story. That's just the way it goes and it's not SDS fault. I believe any online competitive game requires better equipment to keep up with other players. Fair or not that's just the way it goes.I think if you're good ona TV, a monitor will help you. If you suck on a TV like me, a monitor doesn't significantly help or magically turn you into a good player. It has not for me
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@Ikasnu said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
I'm in a weird place. I faced Kopech yesterday, couldn't touch him. Faced Kluber last night, lit him the [censored] up and hit a Slam even. I can't explain it. I was very late on all the fastballs, then later good/early on them.
Same. I can go from being early on inside fastballs from Nate Pearson one game, play another and constantly late and having to gamble vs 90 mph.
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@Hikes83 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@AlphaDag13 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@SVTJOEY760 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@AlphaDag13 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@Therealest_JB said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
I’ve been there buddy, look for offspeed; take fastballs.
Yup. The opposite of real baseball. Lol
I will say that in 19 playing on a monitor is WAY better than a tv.
That’s what my friends been telling me. But I had to get priorities done first which was buy my books for school. How much are good monitors that are cheap?
This is what I play on.
AOC CQ32G1 31.5" Curved Frameless Gaming Monitor, Quad HD 2560x1440, VA panel, 4 ms Response Time, MPRT, 144Hz, FreeSync, DisplayPort/HDMI/VGA, VESA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HKM16DT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_JHlGEbD091SF3
The only thing I’d recommend is looking for a monitor with a 1ms response time. That’s going to make the biggest difference. Also decide if you want to play at 1440p or 1080p. You can save $ by going 1080p but the game will obviously look slightly worse resolution wise.
This is wrong on so many levels. Don’t confuse response time with display lag or input lag. That’s what makes the main difference
In some games you’d be correct. Like in an FPS where you need to shoot something the second you see it. But with a baseball game you first need to see if the ball is worth swinging at before actually hitting an input, so you need a low response time so the pixels will change as fast as possible; giving you more time to actually decide if you’re going to hit an input. Once you have determined if the ball is worth swinging at, that’s when input lag comes into play. Obviously having a low response time and low input lag would be the best of both worlds.
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A monitor will help but it aint gonna make you a elite player. I learned that the hard way in DS last year. Good luck!
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@AlphaDag13 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@SVTJOEY760 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@AlphaDag13 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@Therealest_JB said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
I’ve been there buddy, look for offspeed; take fastballs.
Yup. The opposite of real baseball. Lol
I will say that in 19 playing on a monitor is WAY better than a tv.
That’s what my friends been telling me. But I had to get priorities done first which was buy my books for school. How much are good monitors that are cheap?
This is what I play on.
AOC CQ32G1 31.5" Curved Frameless Gaming Monitor, Quad HD 2560x1440, VA panel, 4 ms Response Time, MPRT, 144Hz, FreeSync, DisplayPort/HDMI/VGA, VESA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HKM16DT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_JHlGEbD091SF3
The only thing I’d recommend is looking for a monitor with a 1ms response time. That’s going to make the biggest difference. Also decide if you want to play at 1440p or 1080p. You can save $ by going 1080p but the game will obviously look slightly worse resolution wise.
1ms response time has nothing to do with input lag. Stop spreading wrong information.
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@Rambo_11k said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
I play on a Monitor and they have the timing window so messed up. Your not missing out on anything with how this game is currently playing.
I didn't think the day would come that you and I would agree on something, yet here we are.
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@Rambo_11k said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
I play on a Monitor and they have the timing window so messed up. Your not missing out on anything with how this game is currently playing.
100% correct. The timing window is beyond screwed up at this point.
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@slipkid69 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@AlphaDag13 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@SVTJOEY760 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@AlphaDag13 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@Therealest_JB said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
I’ve been there buddy, look for offspeed; take fastballs.
Yup. The opposite of real baseball. Lol
I will say that in 19 playing on a monitor is WAY better than a tv.
That’s what my friends been telling me. But I had to get priorities done first which was buy my books for school. How much are good monitors that are cheap?
This is what I play on.
AOC CQ32G1 31.5" Curved Frameless Gaming Monitor, Quad HD 2560x1440, VA panel, 4 ms Response Time, MPRT, 144Hz, FreeSync, DisplayPort/HDMI/VGA, VESA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HKM16DT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_JHlGEbD091SF3
The only thing I’d recommend is looking for a monitor with a 1ms response time. That’s going to make the biggest difference. Also decide if you want to play at 1440p or 1080p. You can save $ by going 1080p but the game will obviously look slightly worse resolution wise.
1ms response time has nothing to do with input lag. Stop spreading wrong information.
Not saying it does. Actually read what I wrote. Response time is how quickly the pixels change. If the pixels change faster, then you can determine if the pitch is a strike or not BEFORE you actually hit the button to swing (input). Input lag is ONLY a factor IF you decide to swing.
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@AlphaDag13 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@slipkid69 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@AlphaDag13 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@SVTJOEY760 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@AlphaDag13 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@Therealest_JB said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
I’ve been there buddy, look for offspeed; take fastballs.
Yup. The opposite of real baseball. Lol
I will say that in 19 playing on a monitor is WAY better than a tv.
That’s what my friends been telling me. But I had to get priorities done first which was buy my books for school. How much are good monitors that are cheap?
This is what I play on.
AOC CQ32G1 31.5" Curved Frameless Gaming Monitor, Quad HD 2560x1440, VA panel, 4 ms Response Time, MPRT, 144Hz, FreeSync, DisplayPort/HDMI/VGA, VESA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HKM16DT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_JHlGEbD091SF3
The only thing I’d recommend is looking for a monitor with a 1ms response time. That’s going to make the biggest difference. Also decide if you want to play at 1440p or 1080p. You can save $ by going 1080p but the game will obviously look slightly worse resolution wise.
1ms response time has nothing to do with input lag. Stop spreading wrong information.
Not saying it does. Actually read what I wrote. Response time is how quickly the pixels change. If the pixels change faster, then you can determine if the pitch is a strike or not BEFORE you actually hit the button to swing (input). Input lag is ONLY a factor IF you decide to swing.
I’m not sure if that’s true. I think Input lag is how quickly the viewing device processes and displays the content source. For instance, different inputs HDMI 1,2, or 3 might have different input lag on a given tv.
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@vagimon said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@AlphaDag13 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@slipkid69 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@AlphaDag13 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@SVTJOEY760 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@AlphaDag13 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@Therealest_JB said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
I’ve been there buddy, look for offspeed; take fastballs.
Yup. The opposite of real baseball. Lol
I will say that in 19 playing on a monitor is WAY better than a tv.
That’s what my friends been telling me. But I had to get priorities done first which was buy my books for school. How much are good monitors that are cheap?
This is what I play on.
AOC CQ32G1 31.5" Curved Frameless Gaming Monitor, Quad HD 2560x1440, VA panel, 4 ms Response Time, MPRT, 144Hz, FreeSync, DisplayPort/HDMI/VGA, VESA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HKM16DT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_JHlGEbD091SF3
The only thing I’d recommend is looking for a monitor with a 1ms response time. That’s going to make the biggest difference. Also decide if you want to play at 1440p or 1080p. You can save $ by going 1080p but the game will obviously look slightly worse resolution wise.
1ms response time has nothing to do with input lag. Stop spreading wrong information.
Not saying it does. Actually read what I wrote. Response time is how quickly the pixels change. If the pixels change faster, then you can determine if the pitch is a strike or not BEFORE you actually hit the button to swing (input). Input lag is ONLY a factor IF you decide to swing.
I’m not sure if that’s true. I think Input lag is how quickly the viewing device processes and displays the content source. For instance, different inputs HDMI 1,2, or 3 might have different input lag on a given tv.
Response time deals with how fast pixels change color and motion blur. Input lag is how long it takes your character to react after a button push. Any decent monitor will have good specs in both areas. The fact that he is telling the guy to get a monitor with 1ms of response time instead of 4ms is just silly. The human eye would never pick up something with that small of a difference.
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I bought a Samsung QLED TV and was using that. Thought it was good, but then bought an ASUS gaming monitor. Trying going back to the QLED and was late on everything... couldn’t hit a darned thing. My TV is now for movies and shows only lol
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@slipkid69 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@vagimon said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@AlphaDag13 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@slipkid69 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@AlphaDag13 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@SVTJOEY760 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@AlphaDag13 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@Therealest_JB said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
I’ve been there buddy, look for offspeed; take fastballs.
Yup. The opposite of real baseball. Lol
I will say that in 19 playing on a monitor is WAY better than a tv.
That’s what my friends been telling me. But I had to get priorities done first which was buy my books for school. How much are good monitors that are cheap?
This is what I play on.
AOC CQ32G1 31.5" Curved Frameless Gaming Monitor, Quad HD 2560x1440, VA panel, 4 ms Response Time, MPRT, 144Hz, FreeSync, DisplayPort/HDMI/VGA, VESA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HKM16DT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_JHlGEbD091SF3
The only thing I’d recommend is looking for a monitor with a 1ms response time. That’s going to make the biggest difference. Also decide if you want to play at 1440p or 1080p. You can save $ by going 1080p but the game will obviously look slightly worse resolution wise.
1ms response time has nothing to do with input lag. Stop spreading wrong information.
Not saying it does. Actually read what I wrote. Response time is how quickly the pixels change. If the pixels change faster, then you can determine if the pitch is a strike or not BEFORE you actually hit the button to swing (input). Input lag is ONLY a factor IF you decide to swing.
I’m not sure if that’s true. I think Input lag is how quickly the viewing device processes and displays the content source. For instance, different inputs HDMI 1,2, or 3 might have different input lag on a given tv.
Response time deals with how fast pixels change color and motion blur. Input lag is how long it takes your character to react after a button push. Any decent monitor will have good specs in both areas. The fact that he is telling the guy to get a monitor with 1ms of response time instead of 4ms is just silly. The human eye would never pick up something with that small of a difference.
Probably not, no. But in terms of looking for one to buy a 1ms response time monitor will also most likely have the lowest input lag.
From displaylag.com
“Response Time:
Response time governs how long a display takes to display a full pixel from black to white. Manufacturers usually provide this specification through their product brochures and general pages, however they measure it as the amount of time it takes to go from “gray-to-gray” instead.
This is typically shown as ‘1ms’, ‘2ms’, etc on product packaging and information pages. This is NOT input lag, but based on experience, a fast response time (1-2ms) usually does tie into a monitor having low input lag in terms of specs. This GTG number governs the amount of ghosting/motion blur a monitor has, accounting for time it takes for pixels to transition.”
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@AlphaDag13 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@slipkid69 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@vagimon said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@AlphaDag13 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@slipkid69 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@AlphaDag13 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@SVTJOEY760 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@AlphaDag13 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@Therealest_JB said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
I’ve been there buddy, look for offspeed; take fastballs.
Yup. The opposite of real baseball. Lol
I will say that in 19 playing on a monitor is WAY better than a tv.
That’s what my friends been telling me. But I had to get priorities done first which was buy my books for school. How much are good monitors that are cheap?
This is what I play on.
AOC CQ32G1 31.5" Curved Frameless Gaming Monitor, Quad HD 2560x1440, VA panel, 4 ms Response Time, MPRT, 144Hz, FreeSync, DisplayPort/HDMI/VGA, VESA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HKM16DT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_JHlGEbD091SF3
The only thing I’d recommend is looking for a monitor with a 1ms response time. That’s going to make the biggest difference. Also decide if you want to play at 1440p or 1080p. You can save $ by going 1080p but the game will obviously look slightly worse resolution wise.
1ms response time has nothing to do with input lag. Stop spreading wrong information.
Not saying it does. Actually read what I wrote. Response time is how quickly the pixels change. If the pixels change faster, then you can determine if the pitch is a strike or not BEFORE you actually hit the button to swing (input). Input lag is ONLY a factor IF you decide to swing.
I’m not sure if that’s true. I think Input lag is how quickly the viewing device processes and displays the content source. For instance, different inputs HDMI 1,2, or 3 might have different input lag on a given tv.
Response time deals with how fast pixels change color and motion blur. Input lag is how long it takes your character to react after a button push. Any decent monitor will have good specs in both areas. The fact that he is telling the guy to get a monitor with 1ms of response time instead of 4ms is just silly. The human eye would never pick up something with that small of a difference.
Probably not, no. But in terms of looking for one to buy a 1ms response time monitor will also most likely have the lowest input lag.
From displaylag.com
“Response Time:
Response time governs how long a display takes to display a full pixel from black to white. Manufacturers usually provide this specification through their product brochures and general pages, however they measure it as the amount of time it takes to go from “gray-to-gray” instead.
This is typically shown as ‘1ms’, ‘2ms’, etc on product packaging and information pages. This is NOT input lag, but based on experience, a fast response time (1-2ms) usually does tie into a monitor having low input lag in terms of specs. This GTG number governs the amount of ghosting/motion blur a monitor has, accounting for time it takes for pixels to transition.”
You are right, all we’re saying is the guy asked for the cheapest monitor that would make a difference. Any 10-14 ms display lag with 60hz refresh rate would do. You will find alot of 2-4MS response time monitors with below 14ms of display/input lag. He doesn’t have to dish out extra cash for 1MS response time and 144Hz of refresh rate
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@Hoofartid said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
Truth is you pretty much always needed a monitor if you wanted to consistently compete online with zone hitting. The kinda good news now is that, outside the top 1% of players, analog and directional is just about on par with zone in the right hands. Lots of folks are able to make WS with either, analog especially.
This isn't true. I'm a consistent WS player who plays on a 55" TV... Just need game mode.
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@Hikes83 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@AlphaDag13 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@slipkid69 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@vagimon said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@AlphaDag13 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@slipkid69 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@AlphaDag13 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@SVTJOEY760 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@AlphaDag13 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@Therealest_JB said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
I’ve been there buddy, look for offspeed; take fastballs.
Yup. The opposite of real baseball. Lol
I will say that in 19 playing on a monitor is WAY better than a tv.
That’s what my friends been telling me. But I had to get priorities done first which was buy my books for school. How much are good monitors that are cheap?
This is what I play on.
AOC CQ32G1 31.5" Curved Frameless Gaming Monitor, Quad HD 2560x1440, VA panel, 4 ms Response Time, MPRT, 144Hz, FreeSync, DisplayPort/HDMI/VGA, VESA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HKM16DT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_JHlGEbD091SF3
The only thing I’d recommend is looking for a monitor with a 1ms response time. That’s going to make the biggest difference. Also decide if you want to play at 1440p or 1080p. You can save $ by going 1080p but the game will obviously look slightly worse resolution wise.
1ms response time has nothing to do with input lag. Stop spreading wrong information.
Not saying it does. Actually read what I wrote. Response time is how quickly the pixels change. If the pixels change faster, then you can determine if the pitch is a strike or not BEFORE you actually hit the button to swing (input). Input lag is ONLY a factor IF you decide to swing.
I’m not sure if that’s true. I think Input lag is how quickly the viewing device processes and displays the content source. For instance, different inputs HDMI 1,2, or 3 might have different input lag on a given tv.
Response time deals with how fast pixels change color and motion blur. Input lag is how long it takes your character to react after a button push. Any decent monitor will have good specs in both areas. The fact that he is telling the guy to get a monitor with 1ms of response time instead of 4ms is just silly. The human eye would never pick up something with that small of a difference.
Probably not, no. But in terms of looking for one to buy a 1ms response time monitor will also most likely have the lowest input lag.
From displaylag.com
“Response Time:
Response time governs how long a display takes to display a full pixel from black to white. Manufacturers usually provide this specification through their product brochures and general pages, however they measure it as the amount of time it takes to go from “gray-to-gray” instead.
This is typically shown as ‘1ms’, ‘2ms’, etc on product packaging and information pages. This is NOT input lag, but based on experience, a fast response time (1-2ms) usually does tie into a monitor having low input lag in terms of specs. This GTG number governs the amount of ghosting/motion blur a monitor has, accounting for time it takes for pixels to transition.”
You are right, all we’re saying is the guy asked for the cheapest monitor that would make a difference. Any 10-14 ms display lag with 60hz refresh rate would do. You will find alot of 2-4MS response time monitors with below 14ms of display/input lag. He doesn’t have to dish out extra cash for 1MS response time and 144Hz of refresh rate
Honestly though with the emergence of 1440p UE Monitors and the continuous focus on 4K monitors at 1080p with 144hz or higher with 1ms response are about as cheap and in some instances cheaper than lower spec monitors due to there being an abundance of them now. What was considered premium just 3-4 years ago is now a very affordable $100-$250 depending on brand and panel.
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@JFazNYY13 said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
@Hoofartid said in Do I have to buy a monitor now?:
Truth is you pretty much always needed a monitor if you wanted to consistently compete online with zone hitting. The kinda good news now is that, outside the top 1% of players, analog and directional is just about on par with zone in the right hands. Lots of folks are able to make WS with either, analog especially.
This isn't true. I'm a consistent WS player who plays on a 55" TV... Just need game mode.
What type of tv are you playing on? Not all game modes are created equal.
