Finest Scherzer
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@LankyRyan said in Finest Scherzer:
At first, I had trouble differentiating between his cutter and slider when hitting, similar to SS Verlander or Bumgarner. But after seeing him a bunch of times I feel like he’s pretty easy to read now. They really did him dirty by not giving him a two seamer, sinker, or even a circle change (not really SDS’ fault, according to bbref, he didn’t have any of those in his “official” repertoire in 2019, even though he’s thrown them his entire career). It all breaks the same direction, which you get used to pretty quickly.
Thanks for the feedback too. I may just wind up putting Kershaw back in as the final starter and make that my go to rotation until 20 releases. I should probably get the 3rd inning boss pack before then so I can at least take Verlander and try him out.
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Don’t he is so bad for some weird reason in 3 games he never made it to the 5th. Look at madbum has been my most consistent pitcher he has a 2.36 era with a 36-12 record.
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Does anyone have the same opinion that Kershaw has become easier to pick up since he has been seen and used a lot since the beginning? I don't get worried when I see him and that's the main reason I was looking for a different 5th.
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Scherzer’s biggest issue as others have mentioned is that everything breaks the same way. The only way he does well is when you play people who will chase outside fastballs and change ups off the plate away from the hitter. I’ve used him for a little while and he has a high 3’s ERA, which isn’t bad, but I just removed him from my rotation and put Jenkins back in the 5 slot. I run, Sale, deGrom, Kershaw, Cole, Jenkins.
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@theu715 said in Finest Scherzer:
Scherzer’s biggest issue as others have mentioned is that everything breaks the same way. The only way he does well is when you play people who will chase outside fastballs and change ups off the plate away from the hitter. I’ve used him for a little while and he has a high 3’s ERA, which isn’t bad, but I just removed him from my rotation and put Jenkins back in the 5 slot. I run, Sale, deGrom, Kershaw, Cole, Jenkins.
It seems like the general consensus is he is okay but doesn't sound like he is worth 100k stubs. Unfortunately I can't afford Sale at this point having tapped out everything to finish the LS collection. But I think in the end I'm just going to run with Cole, deGrom, Kluber who I like from Headliners, Feller and a rotation of different guys I like at the 5 spot like Fergie and Madbum. Going to try out that Morton though first.
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@vagimon said in Finest Scherzer:
I have a small sample size with him. He’s something like 6-8 with a 5.00 era. The other dudes in my rotation have a 4.00 or lower. I was thinking of selling him and getting Billy Wagner.
How many innings? 14 games is a pretty good sample size for a SP IMO
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@JakeSteel2k4 said in Finest Scherzer:
@theu715 said in Finest Scherzer:
Scherzer’s biggest issue as others have mentioned is that everything breaks the same way. The only way he does well is when you play people who will chase outside fastballs and change ups off the plate away from the hitter. I’ve used him for a little while and he has a high 3’s ERA, which isn’t bad, but I just removed him from my rotation and put Jenkins back in the 5 slot. I run, Sale, deGrom, Kershaw, Cole, Jenkins.
It seems like the general consensus is he is okay but doesn't sound like he is worth 100k stubs. Unfortunately I can't afford Sale at this point having tapped out everything to finish the LS collection. But I think in the end I'm just going to run with Cole, deGrom, Kluber who I like from Headliners, Feller and a rotation of different guys I like at the 5 spot like Fergie and Madbum. Going to try out that Morton though first.
if you need the stubs I would pass on him. another decent option is the free Wainwright card. good movement,control, and decent velo in the end though I think Kershaw no matter how many times people see him will still be pretty dominant
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@JakeSteel2k4 said in Finest Scherzer:
@vagimon said in Finest Scherzer:
I have a small sample size with him. He’s something like 6-8 with a 5.00 era. The other dudes in my rotation have a 4.00 or lower. I was thinking of selling him and getting Billy Wagner.
Thanks. I have Cole, deGrom, Feller, and Kluber who I like. Haven't used Kershaw for a while but may also put him back in, just felt people had learned his pitches by now. I also have Bumgarner and Fergie Jenkins. Any suggestions of a high level pitcher besides Sale.
I’d recommend SS Oswalt. He’s much tougher to hit than his attributes would lead you to believe, thanks to his fantastic repertoire. Plus he’s dirt cheap.
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in Finest Scherzer:
@JakeSteel2k4 said in Finest Scherzer:
@vagimon said in Finest Scherzer:
I have a small sample size with him. He’s something like 6-8 with a 5.00 era. The other dudes in my rotation have a 4.00 or lower. I was thinking of selling him and getting Billy Wagner.
Thanks. I have Cole, deGrom, Feller, and Kluber who I like. Haven't used Kershaw for a while but may also put him back in, just felt people had learned his pitches by now. I also have Bumgarner and Fergie Jenkins. Any suggestions of a high level pitcher besides Sale.
I’d recommend SS Oswalt. He’s much tougher to hit than his attributes would lead you to believe, thanks to his fantastic repertoire. Plus he’s dirt cheap.
I wondered about him. I used his 89 early on and didn't mind it back then and have found myself hover over buying his 95 card. I like using guys you rarely see ir don't hear enough about.
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@JakeSteel2k4 said in Finest Scherzer:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in Finest Scherzer:
@JakeSteel2k4 said in Finest Scherzer:
@vagimon said in Finest Scherzer:
I have a small sample size with him. He’s something like 6-8 with a 5.00 era. The other dudes in my rotation have a 4.00 or lower. I was thinking of selling him and getting Billy Wagner.
Thanks. I have Cole, deGrom, Feller, and Kluber who I like. Haven't used Kershaw for a while but may also put him back in, just felt people had learned his pitches by now. I also have Bumgarner and Fergie Jenkins. Any suggestions of a high level pitcher besides Sale.
I’d recommend SS Oswalt. He’s much tougher to hit than his attributes would lead you to believe, thanks to his fantastic repertoire. Plus he’s dirt cheap.
I wondered about him. I used his 89 early on and didn't mind it back then and have found myself hover over buying his 95 card. I like using guys you rarely see ir don't hear enough about.
I love using him. You might as well try him out since he’s so cheap. I know skepple can vouch for him too.
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in Finest Scherzer:
@JakeSteel2k4 said in Finest Scherzer:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in Finest Scherzer:
@JakeSteel2k4 said in Finest Scherzer:
@vagimon said in Finest Scherzer:
I have a small sample size with him. He’s something like 6-8 with a 5.00 era. The other dudes in my rotation have a 4.00 or lower. I was thinking of selling him and getting Billy Wagner.
Thanks. I have Cole, deGrom, Feller, and Kluber who I like. Haven't used Kershaw for a while but may also put him back in, just felt people had learned his pitches by now. I also have Bumgarner and Fergie Jenkins. Any suggestions of a high level pitcher besides Sale.
I’d recommend SS Oswalt. He’s much tougher to hit than his attributes would lead you to believe, thanks to his fantastic repertoire. Plus he’s dirt cheap.
I wondered about him. I used his 89 early on and didn't mind it back then and have found myself hover over buying his 95 card. I like using guys you rarely see ir don't hear enough about.
I love using him. You might as well try him out since he’s so cheap. I know skepple can vouch for him too.
Okay I'm going to do it. Thanks for the suggestion.
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@the_dragon1912 said in Finest Scherzer:
@vagimon said in Finest Scherzer:
I have a small sample size with him. He’s something like 6-8 with a 5.00 era. The other dudes in my rotation have a 4.00 or lower. I was thinking of selling him and getting Billy Wagner.
How many innings? 14 games is a pretty good sample size for a SP IMO
103 innings
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Very easy to hit, had almost a double digit ERA for myself as well... Definitely better options out there.
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I've faced him on HOF and Legend most recently, and he is pretty easy to pick up.
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I lick my chops when i see him
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I've only seen him 3-4 times, and I don't know if my opponents were just really good pitchers, but I found him tough. He's got a great slider/cutter combo and throws hard.
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@JakeSteel2k4 said in Finest Scherzer:
Does anyone have the same opinion that Kershaw has become easier to pick up since he has been seen and used a lot since the beginning? I don't get worried when I see him and that's the main reason I was looking for a different 5th.
Definitely. I even sat him. Considering I had a sub-2 ERA for a long time with him, for him to be approaching 3 means he's been getting shelled. My theory is, in addition to players seeing him often, he's easy for righties to hit. His two best pitches are his curve and slider, both of which become easier to hit with righties. With the number of people running lineups featuring Thomas, Bregman, Mays, Trout, Hornsby, and the like he's become merely good not dominant.
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