Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore
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@gooseonem_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
So I got this idea while listening to the Starting 9 Podcast. Pick the four players from your favorite team that had the biggest impact/most success in their time there.
As a Rangers fan my Mt. Rushmore would have to be:
Nolan Ryan
Ivan "Pudge" Rodriguez
Michael Young
Adrian BeltreMets
Seaver
Wright
Gooden
Carter
Franco maybe Reyes -
Just quickly skimmed this thread so I might ne wrong, but I'm pretty sure I didn't see the Red Sox mentioned once.
Ted Williams
Pedro Martinez
David Ortiz
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@nanthrax_1_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@hikes83_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
Jays
Roy Halladay
Carlos Delgado
Dave Stieb
Jose BautistaSorry Robbie, you were carved out
Dude, gotta have George Bell...
Meh.. he had an MVP sure, though it's one he shouldn't have won.. but other than that, he was kind of overrated. I'd go Vernon or Joe Carter over him. Joe for his postseason heroics, Vernon for his 5 tool game..
Josh Donaldson in his first 2 years as a Jay produced the same WAR George Bell did in a decade lol
Shannon Stewart
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@rebsfan_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@hikes83_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
Jays
Roy Halladay
Carlos Delgado
Dave Stieb
Jose BautistaSorry Robbie, you were carved out
Dude, gotta have George Bell...
Meh.. he had an MVP sure, though it's one he shouldn't have won.. but other than that, he was kind of overrated. I'd go Vernon or Joe Carter over him. Joe for his postseason heroics, Vernon for his 5 tool game..
Josh Donaldson in his first 2 years as a Jay produced the same WAR George Bell did in a decade lol
Shannon Stewart
Good player. Not great. Tons of Shannon Stewart's throughout the years...
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@nanthrax_1_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@rebsfan_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@hikes83_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
Jays
Roy Halladay
Carlos Delgado
Dave Stieb
Jose BautistaSorry Robbie, you were carved out
Dude, gotta have George Bell...
Meh.. he had an MVP sure, though it's one he shouldn't have won.. but other than that, he was kind of overrated. I'd go Vernon or Joe Carter over him. Joe for his postseason heroics, Vernon for his 5 tool game..
Josh Donaldson in his first 2 years as a Jay produced the same WAR George Bell did in a decade lol
Shannon Stewart
Good player. Not great. Tons of Shannon Stewart's throughout the years...
Yeah, just liked watching him. Grew up with Moseby and Barfield.
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Rickey Henderson
Jimmie Fox
Catfish Hunter
Vida BlueSorry, McGwire fans. I loved him too, but then I grew up and realized that he's a disgrace. No cheaters on my Mt. Rushmore.
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For a franchise that is as old as the White Sox, we have had a lot of really productive players that are "names" in our history but they don't mean as much to baseball history. Which is why I feel that my list is possibly very controversial. I'm not including the likes of Ted Lyons, Ed Walsh, Luke Appling, Minnie Minoso, Nellie Fox, [censored] Allen or Ed Collins. The team's history has changed so much over the years, that it almost feels like they were a different team altogether. So with that said, here's my faces of Mt. Rushmore that all White Sox fans should know/remember. They represent what it means to be a member of the Chicago White Sox better than any other players in the history of the game, in my opinion.
Chicago White Sox
Frank Thomas
Mark Buehrle
Jose Abreu
Paul KonerkoHonorable Mentions: Harold Baines, Robin Ventura, Chris Sale, Carlton Fisk and Luis Aparicio
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Dodgers
Robinson
Kershaw
Koufax
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@evylshaun_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
Just quickly skimmed this thread so I might ne wrong, but I'm pretty sure I didn't see the Red Sox mentioned once.
Ted Williams
Pedro Martinez
David Ortiz
Carl YastrzemskiRoger Clemens (even though they didn't win the WS with him and also in his pre-juice, pure talent years!!)
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@ogbuttamilk_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
Not my fave team but how bout the Expos?
Randy Johnson
Pedro Martinez
Vlad
Andre Dawson/Larry WalkerRandy Johnson had 4 starts as a rookie; not really an Expo... going by this method you’d have to include Cliff Lee, Grady Sizemore, Brendan Philipps...
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@nanthrax_1_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@savefarris_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@gooseonem_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
As a Ranger's fan I do not choose to recognize Bautista lol
"Well Odor is now 2 for 5 today..."
Rather get sucker punched in May than knocked out twice in a row in October
Sucker punch???? They were face to face and Bautista was looking right at him before he got jacked up... that is not a sucker punch... a sucker punch is a punch you never seen coming. He didn't get sucker punched, he just got layed out and he came at him so he got what he was looking for.
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Boston Red Sox:
David Ortiz
Ted Williams
Carl Yastremski
Pedro Martinez
...lot of great Red Sox players could replace Pedro on this list, but Pedro had a great career here and was part of the team that finally broke the curse. Ortiz is easily the most beloved Red sox player in my time... He might even be bigger than Brady in this state. -
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@hikes83_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
Jays
Roy Halladay
Carlos Delgado
Dave Stieb
Jose BautistaSorry Robbie, you were carved out
Dude, gotta have George Bell...
Meh.. he had an MVP sure, though it's one he shouldn't have won.. but other than that, he was kind of overrated. I'd go Vernon or Joe Carter over him. Joe for his postseason heroics, Vernon for his 5 tool game..
Josh Donaldson in his first 2 years as a Jay produced the same WAR George Bell did in a decade lol
WAR is all well and good, but this is the Mount Rushmore list. For me, these have to be the ones who not only contributed greatly but also at critical times. Jose Bautista had a great run but several of his best years were on also-ran teams. In contrast, Joe Carter came over in the 'blockbuster trade' pre-1991 and went on to post 4 consecutive 100+ RBI seasons while being a big part of the clubhouse 'glue' of the Jays team that won 3 division titles and 2 WS titles in that 4 year span. YES it matters!!!!
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@wk680_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@evylshaun_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
Just quickly skimmed this thread so I might ne wrong, but I'm pretty sure I didn't see the Red Sox mentioned once.
Ted Williams
Pedro Martinez
David Ortiz
Carl YastrzemskiRoger Clemons (even though they didn't win the WS with him and also in his pre-juice, pure talent years!!)
Roger Clemens was my idol. That being said, I think Wade Boggs would belong on a Boston list before Clemens.
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@formallyforearms said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@wk680_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@evylshaun_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
Just quickly skimmed this thread so I might ne wrong, but I'm pretty sure I didn't see the Red Sox mentioned once.
Ted Williams
Pedro Martinez
David Ortiz
Carl YastrzemskiRoger Clemons (even though they didn't win the WS with him and also in his pre-juice, pure talent years!!)
Roger Clemens was my idol. That being said, I think Wade Boggs would belong on a Boston list before Clemens.
April 29th, 1986, a date that will live in infamy. The first ever 20 strikeout game, matched by only 3 pitchers since: 1) Clemens himself in Sept. 1996, Kerry Wood in 1998 and Max Scherzer in 2016!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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@wk680_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@formallyforearms said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@wk680_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@evylshaun_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
Just quickly skimmed this thread so I might ne wrong, but I'm pretty sure I didn't see the Red Sox mentioned once.
Ted Williams
Pedro Martinez
David Ortiz
Carl YastrzemskiRoger Clemons (even though they didn't win the WS with him and also in his pre-juice, pure talent years!!)
Roger Clemens was my idol. That being said, I think Wade Boggs would belong on a Boston list before Clemens.
April 29th, 1986, a date that will live in infamy. The first ever 20 strikeout game, matched by only 3 pitchers since: 1) Clemens himself in Sept. 1996, Kerry Wood in 1998 and Max Scherzer in 2016!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love Roger Clemens. He was my idol, as I stated before. But a lot of Red Sox fans hate him. That's why I said it. If you ask Boston fans, I'm sure they would put Boggs or even Dwight Evans ahead of the Rocket.
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@formallyforearms said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@wk680_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@formallyforearms said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@wk680_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@evylshaun_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
Just quickly skimmed this thread so I might ne wrong, but I'm pretty sure I didn't see the Red Sox mentioned once.
Ted Williams
Pedro Martinez
David Ortiz
Carl YastrzemskiRoger Clemons (even though they didn't win the WS with him and also in his pre-juice, pure talent years!!)
Roger Clemens was my idol. That being said, I think Wade Boggs would belong on a Boston list before Clemens.
April 29th, 1986, a date that will live in infamy. The first ever 20 strikeout game, matched by only 3 pitchers since: 1) Clemens himself in Sept. 1996, Kerry Wood in 1998 and Max Scherzer in 2016!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love Roger Clemens. He was my idol, as I stated before. But a lot of Red Sox fans hate him. That's why I said it. If you ask Boston fans, I'm sure they would put Boggs or even Dwight Evans ahead of the Rocket.
Agree with this. Though it's kind of their fault for giving up on him, only for him to shove it in their face with back to back triple crowns on their rival, then get traded to their even bigger rival and help the Yankees win 2 WS
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@wk680_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@hikes83_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
Jays
Roy Halladay
Carlos Delgado
Dave Stieb
Jose BautistaSorry Robbie, you were carved out
Dude, gotta have George Bell...
Meh.. he had an MVP sure, though it's one he shouldn't have won.. but other than that, he was kind of overrated. I'd go Vernon or Joe Carter over him. Joe for his postseason heroics, Vernon for his 5 tool game..
Josh Donaldson in his first 2 years as a Jay produced the same WAR George Bell did in a decade lol
WAR is all well and good, but this is the Mount Rushmore list. For me, these have to be the ones who not only contributed greatly but also at critical times. Jose Bautista had a great run but several of his best years were on also-ran teams. In contrast, Joe Carter came over in the 'blockbuster trade' pre-1991 and went on to post 4 consecutive 100+ RBI seasons while being a big part of the clubhouse 'glue' of the Jays team that won 3 division titles and 2 WS titles in that 4 year span. YES it matters!!!!
So your reasoning is Joe Carter just so happened to be lucky to play on a stacked team and Jose didn't?
The other reason is RBI? Lol
Joe Carter didn't win those titles. In fact, he's easily the 5th most valuable player on that '93 team. Alomar, Olerud, Molitor, and White were far better. .300 OBP's don't exactly help teams that much.
Joe was probably 4th on his '92 team too. Alomar, Winfield and Devon White being better.Bautista did everything in his power to try, and save for one year where JD won mvp, he was always the most valuable on the teams he played for.
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@nanthrax_1_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@formallyforearms said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@wk680_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@formallyforearms said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@wk680_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@evylshaun_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
Just quickly skimmed this thread so I might ne wrong, but I'm pretty sure I didn't see the Red Sox mentioned once.
Ted Williams
Pedro Martinez
David Ortiz
Carl YastrzemskiRoger Clemons (even though they didn't win the WS with him and also in his pre-juice, pure talent years!!)
Roger Clemens was my idol. That being said, I think Wade Boggs would belong on a Boston list before Clemens.
April 29th, 1986, a date that will live in infamy. The first ever 20 strikeout game, matched by only 3 pitchers since: 1) Clemens himself in Sept. 1996, Kerry Wood in 1998 and Max Scherzer in 2016!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love Roger Clemens. He was my idol, as I stated before. But a lot of Red Sox fans hate him. That's why I said it. If you ask Boston fans, I'm sure they would put Boggs or even Dwight Evans ahead of the Rocket.
Agree with this. Though it's kind of their fault for giving up on him, only for him to shove it in their face with back to back triple crowns on their rival, then get traded to their even bigger rival and help the Yankees win 2 WS
Your fans even dislike him, right?
I think if he was introduced before a game, the place he might get the most positive reaction would be Houston, even though he only played there a couple years. He won a CY there and is from Texas. Yankee fans seem like they dont care about him at all, so more indifference than like/dislike.
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@formallyforearms said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@formallyforearms said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@wk680_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@formallyforearms said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@wk680_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
@evylshaun_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:
Just quickly skimmed this thread so I might ne wrong, but I'm pretty sure I didn't see the Red Sox mentioned once.
Ted Williams
Pedro Martinez
David Ortiz
Carl YastrzemskiRoger Clemons (even though they didn't win the WS with him and also in his pre-juice, pure talent years!!)
Roger Clemens was my idol. That being said, I think Wade Boggs would belong on a Boston list before Clemens.
April 29th, 1986, a date that will live in infamy. The first ever 20 strikeout game, matched by only 3 pitchers since: 1) Clemens himself in Sept. 1996, Kerry Wood in 1998 and Max Scherzer in 2016!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love Roger Clemens. He was my idol, as I stated before. But a lot of Red Sox fans hate him. That's why I said it. If you ask Boston fans, I'm sure they would put Boggs or even Dwight Evans ahead of the Rocket.
Agree with this. Though it's kind of their fault for giving up on him, only for him to shove it in their face with back to back triple crowns on their rival, then get traded to their even bigger rival and help the Yankees win 2 WS
Your fans even dislike him, right?
I think if he was introduced before a game, the place he might get the most positive reaction would be Houston, even though he only played there a couple years. He won a CY there and is from Texas. Yankee fans seem like they dont care about him at all, so more indifference than like/dislike.
Na, Jays fans are indifferent for the most part.
It made us upset that he wanted out of here, and we only got David Wells back (who we do hate, as he hates us too) but at least we got 2 of Rocket's best years. They were insanely dominant.
That first season in particular. Wow.. 12 WAR pitching season is one of the all time great years
