The DDA in this game is appalling online
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@jahlove1722_xbl said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@hikes83_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@jahlove1722_xbl said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
When you start mlb the show for the first time it literally asks you if you want DDA in your gameplay experience lol.....so the argument that they don’t have it is insanity. They even have a aetting for it to turn on and off what you mean they don’t have it? The only question is if online has it or not
Lol that’s not the same thing at all. The DDA talked about in-game (offline) is if you’re dominating Veteran, they’ll move you up to Allstar (faster pitch speeds, smaller PCI). It’s got nothing to do with what people are claiming (errors by your fielders when you’re in lead, jammed hits galore). What they are saying is when you’re winning, the game will start to favour the team thats trailing and nerf the winning team
That’s not what the offline DDA is? Cause in madden they have a patent and it 100% is in online play, and it tilts the game one way for sure from time to time.
No like I said, the offline DDA is to make it competitive for you, tailor it to your skill level. If you’re dominating in Veteran difficulty, they’ll move it up to Allstar difficulty. If you dominate there, they’ll move up the difficulty to HoF
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I wouldn’t question whether DDA existed if I didn’t routinely square up with good timing (many Perfects) resulting in flyouts and line outs. And then my opponent who swings at every pitch and Ks close to 20 times in a game, then hits a home run on a ball off the plate with early timing. If you don’t like the term DDA then insert whatever word you want to call it. But clearly the game is coded to aid the worse opponent in many situations.
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@hikes83_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
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@untchable704_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
When an early swing without touching the ball with the pci can be a HR and 20 good timed swings dotted inside the pci can be outs it not really skill. Just a casual game. The only skill really comes down to whether a fastball zooms by with your connection or not and not swinging at low pitches out the zone unless they allow you to foul them off 10 times in a row.
I don’t know about DDA. But it’s definitely best to take it as a casual experience and hope your connection allows to see the fastballs.
There's 100% dda in this game. They can deny it all they want but all you have to do is watch the game and pay attention. I can usually tell whether a play will be made when it is hit depending on the score. For instance, a ball in the hole at SS. If you are winning, 9/10 times that runner will be safe. If losing, the SS will get the quick throw animation. No different than the dribbler on the infield or a thousand other scenarios. This is why when you are in the lead, you take no chances on the bases and have to make sure your guy will 100% make it. You have to factor that the relay will be very quick.
I must be f* terrible at the game if I’m 23-3 with two disconnect losses. DDA must always be in my favour right?
Yeah last night played a guy who couldn’t hit for sh!t; struck him out 19 times with Eovaldi, while I struck out maybe 5-6 times against Rodon. He hit a 2 run shot after a lag triple (single that my CF was not anywhere near after teleporting) in the first. Going by DDA , I should have come back and won since I trailed, but all I hit were wet noodles flyouts and 2 p/p lineouts in the 8th. I rarely come back except if the P is tired or I just get results reflecting actual contacts made, or if he becomes predictable. Where’s my DDA??
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@yankblan_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@hikes83_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@untchable704_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
When an early swing without touching the ball with the pci can be a HR and 20 good timed swings dotted inside the pci can be outs it not really skill. Just a casual game. The only skill really comes down to whether a fastball zooms by with your connection or not and not swinging at low pitches out the zone unless they allow you to foul them off 10 times in a row.
I don’t know about DDA. But it’s definitely best to take it as a casual experience and hope your connection allows to see the fastballs.
There's 100% dda in this game. They can deny it all they want but all you have to do is watch the game and pay attention. I can usually tell whether a play will be made when it is hit depending on the score. For instance, a ball in the hole at SS. If you are winning, 9/10 times that runner will be safe. If losing, the SS will get the quick throw animation. No different than the dribbler on the infield or a thousand other scenarios. This is why when you are in the lead, you take no chances on the bases and have to make sure your guy will 100% make it. You have to factor that the relay will be very quick.
I must be f* terrible at the game if I’m 23-3 with two disconnect losses. DDA must always be in my favour right?
Yeah last night played a guy who couldn’t hit for sh!t; struck him out 19 times with Eovaldi, while I struck out maybe 5-6 times against Rodon. He hit a 2 run shot after a lag triple (single that my CF was not anywhere near after teleporting) in the first. Going by DDA , I should have come back and won since I trailed, but all I hit were wet noodles flyouts and 2 p/p lineouts in the 8th. I rarely come back except if the P is tired or I just get results reflecting actual contacts made, or if he becomes predictable. Where’s my DDA??
DDA only exists in believers. Us non believers have none of it.
It’s like I’ve said multiples times on this forum, for some people if they win, it’s all them. If they lose, it’s all on the game. Just can’t win with them (pardon the pun)
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@the_dragon1912 said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@jahlove1722_xbl said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@hikes83_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@jahlove1722_xbl said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
When you start mlb the show for the first time it literally asks you if you want DDA in your gameplay experience lol.....so the argument that they don’t have it is insanity. They even have a aetting for it to turn on and off what you mean they don’t have it? The only question is if online has it or not
Lol that’s not the same thing at all. The DDA talked about in-game (offline) is if you’re dominating Veteran, they’ll move you up to Allstar (faster pitch speeds, smaller PCI). It’s got nothing to do with what people are claiming (errors by your fielders when you’re in lead, jammed hits galore). What they are saying is when you’re winning, the game will start to favour the team thats trailing and nerf the winning team
That’s not what the offline DDA is? Cause in madden they have a patent and it 100% is in online play, and it tilts the game one way for sure from time to time.
Do you know what a patent is? EA has exclusive rights to DDA. So of course you are going to see it in Madden, FIFA, and NHL. We are talking about this game here
Do you know how patents work? All it means is that SDS has to get permission to use the concept. They just need to pay EA and it can be used by other companies. Also, there are many ways to work around and not infringe upon a patent.
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@hikes83_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@yankblan_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@hikes83_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@untchable704_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
When an early swing without touching the ball with the pci can be a HR and 20 good timed swings dotted inside the pci can be outs it not really skill. Just a casual game. The only skill really comes down to whether a fastball zooms by with your connection or not and not swinging at low pitches out the zone unless they allow you to foul them off 10 times in a row.
I don’t know about DDA. But it’s definitely best to take it as a casual experience and hope your connection allows to see the fastballs.
There's 100% dda in this game. They can deny it all they want but all you have to do is watch the game and pay attention. I can usually tell whether a play will be made when it is hit depending on the score. For instance, a ball in the hole at SS. If you are winning, 9/10 times that runner will be safe. If losing, the SS will get the quick throw animation. No different than the dribbler on the infield or a thousand other scenarios. This is why when you are in the lead, you take no chances on the bases and have to make sure your guy will 100% make it. You have to factor that the relay will be very quick.
I must be f* terrible at the game if I’m 23-3 with two disconnect losses. DDA must always be in my favour right?
Yeah last night played a guy who couldn’t hit for sh!t; struck him out 19 times with Eovaldi, while I struck out maybe 5-6 times against Rodon. He hit a 2 run shot after a lag triple (single that my CF was not anywhere near after teleporting) in the first. Going by DDA , I should have come back and won since I trailed, but all I hit were wet noodles flyouts and 2 p/p lineouts in the 8th. I rarely come back except if the P is tired or I just get results reflecting actual contacts made, or if he becomes predictable. Where’s my DDA??
DDA only exists in believers. Us non believers have none of it.
It’s like I’ve said multiples times on this forum, for some people if they win, it’s all them. If they lose, it’s all on the game. Just can’t win with them (pardon the pun)
I would not say DDA exists in MLB, but its possible. More the RNG can really be against you or for you. Agree that we tend to not notice when it helps us, but when it is against you it is frustrating as hell.
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@dahbeers_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@the_dragon1912 said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@jahlove1722_xbl said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@hikes83_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@jahlove1722_xbl said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
When you start mlb the show for the first time it literally asks you if you want DDA in your gameplay experience lol.....so the argument that they don’t have it is insanity. They even have a aetting for it to turn on and off what you mean they don’t have it? The only question is if online has it or not
Lol that’s not the same thing at all. The DDA talked about in-game (offline) is if you’re dominating Veteran, they’ll move you up to Allstar (faster pitch speeds, smaller PCI). It’s got nothing to do with what people are claiming (errors by your fielders when you’re in lead, jammed hits galore). What they are saying is when you’re winning, the game will start to favour the team thats trailing and nerf the winning team
That’s not what the offline DDA is? Cause in madden they have a patent and it 100% is in online play, and it tilts the game one way for sure from time to time.
Do you know what a patent is? EA has exclusive rights to DDA. So of course you are going to see it in Madden, FIFA, and NHL. We are talking about this game here
Do you know how patents work? All it means is that SDS has to get permission to use the concept. They just need to pay EA and it can be used by other companies. Also, there are many ways to work around and not infringe upon a patent.
Yes, and for the same reason Apple doesn't give Samsung permission to use the IOS operating system, or you need a workaround to use Microsoft office on MacBooks, companies don't sell patents or rights to use to their direct competition
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@the_dragon1912 said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@dahbeers_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@the_dragon1912 said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@jahlove1722_xbl said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@hikes83_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@jahlove1722_xbl said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
When you start mlb the show for the first time it literally asks you if you want DDA in your gameplay experience lol.....so the argument that they don’t have it is insanity. They even have a aetting for it to turn on and off what you mean they don’t have it? The only question is if online has it or not
Lol that’s not the same thing at all. The DDA talked about in-game (offline) is if you’re dominating Veteran, they’ll move you up to Allstar (faster pitch speeds, smaller PCI). It’s got nothing to do with what people are claiming (errors by your fielders when you’re in lead, jammed hits galore). What they are saying is when you’re winning, the game will start to favour the team thats trailing and nerf the winning team
That’s not what the offline DDA is? Cause in madden they have a patent and it 100% is in online play, and it tilts the game one way for sure from time to time.
Do you know what a patent is? EA has exclusive rights to DDA. So of course you are going to see it in Madden, FIFA, and NHL. We are talking about this game here
Do you know how patents work? All it means is that SDS has to get permission to use the concept. They just need to pay EA and it can be used by other companies. Also, there are many ways to work around and not infringe upon a patent.
Yes, and for the same reason Apple doesn't give Samsung permission to use the IOS operating system, or you need a workaround to use Microsoft office on MacBooks, companies don't sell patents or rights to use to their direct competition
They do in my field. I do not think "DDA" is in game, I do think RNG can be very biased depending on the situation
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@jetguy35_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
I wouldn’t question whether DDA existed if I didn’t routinely square up with good timing (many Perfects) resulting in flyouts and line outs. And then my opponent who swings at every pitch and Ks close to 20 times in a game, then hits a home run on a ball off the plate with early timing. If you don’t like the term DDA then insert whatever word you want to call it. But clearly the game is coded to aid the worse opponent in many situations.
This guy gets it. DDA is like saying Kleenex. A facial tissue is the same thing as Kleenex.
When money is involved in these games, you better believe the developer is going to do what they can to keep those dollars coming in.
Last year’s game balancing was pure stupidity and this year isn’t much better.
Think about the perks that are in showdowns. They are literally throwing it out in the open that things can be adjusted pitch to pitch.
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Youtubers make this game not even worth playing online. Saw a video last night of a zoom in trick (on strike zone cam) that makes hitting unstoppable.
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@hikes83_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@tyrusthebull_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@hikes83_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@untchable704_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
When an early swing without touching the ball with the pci can be a HR and 20 good timed swings dotted inside the pci can be outs it not really skill. Just a casual game. The only skill really comes down to whether a fastball zooms by with your connection or not and not swinging at low pitches out the zone unless they allow you to foul them off 10 times in a row.
I don’t know about DDA. But it’s definitely best to take it as a casual experience and hope your connection allows to see the fastballs.
There's 100% dda in this game. They can deny it all they want but all you have to do is watch the game and pay attention. I can usually tell whether a play will be made when it is hit depending on the score. For instance, a ball in the hole at SS. If you are winning, 9/10 times that runner will be safe. If losing, the SS will get the quick throw animation. No different than the dribbler on the infield or a thousand other scenarios. This is why when you are in the lead, you take no chances on the bases and have to make sure your guy will 100% make it. You have to factor that the relay will be very quick.
I must be f* terrible at the game if I’m 23-3 with two disconnect losses. DDA must always be in my favour right?
All star hero here
Lol right buddy. I wasn’t gloating, just making a point. If it makes you feel better, I’m sitting right around 850
Sure you are
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@tyrusthebull_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@hikes83_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@tyrusthebull_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@hikes83_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@untchable704_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
When an early swing without touching the ball with the pci can be a HR and 20 good timed swings dotted inside the pci can be outs it not really skill. Just a casual game. The only skill really comes down to whether a fastball zooms by with your connection or not and not swinging at low pitches out the zone unless they allow you to foul them off 10 times in a row.
I don’t know about DDA. But it’s definitely best to take it as a casual experience and hope your connection allows to see the fastballs.
There's 100% dda in this game. They can deny it all they want but all you have to do is watch the game and pay attention. I can usually tell whether a play will be made when it is hit depending on the score. For instance, a ball in the hole at SS. If you are winning, 9/10 times that runner will be safe. If losing, the SS will get the quick throw animation. No different than the dribbler on the infield or a thousand other scenarios. This is why when you are in the lead, you take no chances on the bases and have to make sure your guy will 100% make it. You have to factor that the relay will be very quick.
I must be f* terrible at the game if I’m 23-3 with two disconnect losses. DDA must always be in my favour right?
All star hero here
Lol right buddy. I wasn’t gloating, just making a point. If it makes you feel better, I’m sitting right around 850
Sure you are
Why would I lie? You can easily check it out. Pretty brave coming from someone who can’t even hack it in Allstar with your pathetic record and BA
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@hikes83_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@jahlove1722_xbl said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@hikes83_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@jahlove1722_xbl said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
When you start mlb the show for the first time it literally asks you if you want DDA in your gameplay experience lol.....so the argument that they don’t have it is insanity. They even have a aetting for it to turn on and off what you mean they don’t have it? The only question is if online has it or not
Lol that’s not the same thing at all. The DDA talked about in-game (offline) is if you’re dominating Veteran, they’ll move you up to Allstar (faster pitch speeds, smaller PCI). It’s got nothing to do with what people are claiming (errors by your fielders when you’re in lead, jammed hits galore). What they are saying is when you’re winning, the game will start to favour the team thats trailing and nerf the winning team
That’s not what the offline DDA is? Cause in madden they have a patent and it 100% is in online play, and it tilts the game one way for sure from time to time.
No like I said, the offline DDA is to make it competitive for you, tailor it to your skill level. If you’re dominating in Veteran difficulty, they’ll move it up to Allstar difficulty. If you dominate there, they’ll move up the difficulty to HoF
Correct, I use dynamic difficulty offline. Currently my pitching is on all-star and my hitting is on veteran. I'm better at pitching than batting so I have moved up faster in that aspect.
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No what's appalling is circle swing being so OP. Every scrub out there right now has 300 plus BA
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The main theme for me in this entire thread is human beings attaching value, and sometimes even self-worth, to their success in a video game. It’s not necessarily sad, but it’s indicative of a bigger picture in which the importance of your online record or your reputation as a “good video game player” can get carried away. The game (and any video game) seems like it’s a better investment for someone who can play it for fun without it impacting their mood or self-worth.
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@the_dragon1912 said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
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@the_dragon1912 said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
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@soreal35_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
Why? I thought skill mattered lol
Uh oh. You gonna make the sds apologists mad that you even suggest DDA. Ive noted a few times on here that DDA is a actual thing, and makes for Modes like DD, muT, and Fut thrive. They release these new cards all the time, and that makes Johnny thinks if spend such and such real money the latest and greatest card will prevent him from losing which we know it won't.
I'll believe in DDA when mercy rules in this game cease to exist. If DDA was truly a think mercy rules would simply not happen ever. 90% of the "this game has DDA" posts are made by a player that left his pitcher in to long or brought in a scrub reliever and lost in the late innings. There just isn't enough proof that it exists. Anyway doesn't EA have a patent on the entire concept of DDA?
Do you know how there are mercy rules? Because people leave their pitchers in too long and that trumps any DDA. Do mound visits and switch pitchers and the chances of you being mercied are extremely rare. The game will help you out if you are losing and give you chances.
Ironically leaving pitchers in too long is what prompts most of these DDA posts in the first place. You really think SDS has the ability to program defensive animations to favor/go against people based on situation? You are giving them too much credit if that's the case. They haven't gotten catcher fielding right in the entire history of this game being online. You thinking they have the capability of programming DDA is laughable
So Madden doesn't program in fumbles when you are about to go ahead 21-0? I'll give you more examples. Ball to the gap. Your 99 speed outfielder physically slows down when you are in the lead and the ball drops. However, if you are behind he speeds up and makes the catch. Are you saying you have never seen players speed up or slow down. If so you are not only naive but blind. You may want to get your eyes checked. It happens all the time.
There is DDA in madden. I'll give you that. Because EA has a patent on the concept. Just seems strange to me that the person that thinks McDonalds wifi or a phone hotspot helps you out in this game more that a good internet connection thinks that outfielders speeding up is DDA and not connection based
EA denied DDA for years until someone found it. Sports games don't want to admit it is in there but it is in every sports game. FIFA, Madden, The Show, NBA2k. The better players make the plays, pitches or hits when they need to. The bad players don't. Simple as that. That is why if I get down 3-0 I don't worry. At some point I am going to get on base. What do I do then? Do I strikeout, make good contact or get a HR on a ball not touching the PCI.
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@whitejw98_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
I'm terrible at this game and I always end up with a terrible record, so if there's DDA or RNG or whatever then the devs clearly have a personal grudge against me because I never seem to benefit. SDS, why do you hate me so much?
Has nothing to with hating you. You simply are not good enough to make the plays when they are presented to you. It is probably why you get beat by 5 instead of being mercied.
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@swanedawg5119_xbl said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
A common scenario I run into and have been running into for years...up by 2 in the last inning...mind you this guy couldn’t hit water if he fell out of a boat...lead off bloop single on very late timing and ball not in the pci...followed by an easy double play ground ball that my gold/diamond fielder lets go over his shoulder for an error...followed by a homerun on early timing and ball barely in the pci. Game over I hit the showers. I can’t be the only one that has seen that combo before. It’s like a Mortal Kombat finisher at this point. I believe 60-70% of the time a better than average player can over come it and the 80-90% of the time the elite players can over come it. Overcoming the script and trying your best to minimize it is where the skill gap takes place. Sometimes you can conquer it and other times you are at the mercy of the game. But there is a script and it does happen.
Like I said, the game will give you a chance. It doesn't only happen when you are winning it happens when you are losing too. Down by 3, you get two weak hits. What do you do now? Those hits are more than likely outs now. Can you square the ball up? Players with good players make these plays, bad players do not.
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@hoboadam_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
My opinion... And it's an opinion, not fact.
There's no DDA in MLB the Show.
There's horrible RNG ranges for certain aspects of gameplay, ranging from PCI coverage to pitch input ranges.
Not going to get into the whole DDA debate. I'll simply state that based on the level of programming that is incorporated into baseball and the nature of action, reaction, result, it's not a viable option to code.
Things that affect RNG ranges include card attributes, user input, confidence, pitch type, swing timing, location, elevation, clutch etc. Every aspect of the event of a pitch, swing, contact, ball in play, requires a dice roll and possible result. No matter what the attributes indicate your range should be, there's always a chance for the 1 in 20 roll for the rarest of outcomes.
Perfect release FB using pinpoint, lower right quadrant... Will still require a calculation by the batter. There's always going to be that 1 in X chance that if little billy swings, he's going to make some form of contact.
They do the best they can, but sometimes we see the events transpire in a way that we don't expect. Thus we start speculation that it's DDA.
This is 100 percent how I view most everything in this game. I assume that every hit has some sort of dice roll mechanic in it. That’s how you get 1000s of different animations and outcomes with a set # of pixels in the pci. The better your input, the more dice you get. So, Input matters but there is rng in the game, just not the way that most people use the term rng in this forum.
I’m not a programmer though and I’m not good enough to play at a high level. I just try to read comments, hear different perspectives, and draw my own conclusion. If someone at SDS would like to invite me in to show me how it’s done, though, I know a bunch of really good high school programmers that would love to come with me.
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@writetoshawn_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
The main theme for me in this entire thread is human beings attaching value, and sometimes even self-worth, to their success in a video game. It’s not necessarily sad, but it’s indicative of a bigger picture in which the importance of your online record or your reputation as a “good video game player” can get carried away. The game (and any video game) seems like it’s a better investment for someone who can play it for fun without it impacting their mood or self-worth.
I quit out of over 200 games last year. I could not see the ball, react or recognize pitches when I got in the 800's this year or last year for that matter. I quit out of like 12 straight games to do dailies using silver pitchers and such. I reached 800 again and the same thing happened. I had 19 strikeouts because the pitch speed looked like 120 mph. Game is zero fun when this happens. You really think I care about my record? I call it like I see it. BTW - I won that game.
