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  • Ikasnu_PSNI Offline
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    @sean_87__psn said in The “42”:

    @ikasnu_psn said in The “42”:

    @sean_87__psn said in The “42”:

    @hoboadam_psn said in The “42”:

    It's not political. Y'all are giving SDS too much credit. It's 5 ball players and it's a pre order pack. 5 more to get revealed next week.

    They'll all be low diamonds, they'll have these packs scattered everywhere in the game as well for a collection.

    Oh. The skin tone of the 5 revealed happen to be people of color.

    Let's play ball here.

    If you want political stuff or cancel culture discussion, I'm sure you can find a reddit thread about Aunt Jemima, Mr Potato Head, Gina Carano, or D Watson.

    They got political last year. They threw it everyone’s face on the game and the forum. What you talking bout Willis.

    Last years was political, we all know why they did it and nobody blames them for sharing their stance on it. Not going down that rabbit hole, but this is quite a bit different since this is just celebrating the man who changed the game, and thats Jackie Robinson.

    Sharing their stance? You do know the political group they backed is anti-America right? Do a little research and you will see what they really stand for and it’s not about their t-shirt slogans either.

    Not going down that rabbit hole, whatever stance you pick thats on you.

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    @sean_87__psn said in The “42”:

    @hoboadam_psn said in The “42”:

    It's not political. Y'all are giving SDS too much credit. It's 5 ball players and it's a pre order pack. 5 more to get revealed next week.

    They'll all be low diamonds, they'll have these packs scattered everywhere in the game as well for a collection.

    Oh. The skin tone of the 5 revealed happen to be people of color.

    Let's play ball here.

    If you want political stuff or cancel culture discussion, I'm sure you can find a reddit thread about Aunt Jemima, Mr Potato Head, Gina Carano, or D Watson.

    They got political last year. They threw it everyone’s face on the game and the forum. What you talking bout Willis.

    The WHOLE country had it. It's a little more laid back right this moment. People are trying to focus on the baseball side of things, including the developers and content pushers.

    Take it easy son... It's going to be ok. I promise...

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    @sean_87__psn said in The “42”:

    @ikasnu_psn said in The “42”:

    @sean_87__psn said in The “42”:

    @hoboadam_psn said in The “42”:

    It's not political. Y'all are giving SDS too much credit. It's 5 ball players and it's a pre order pack. 5 more to get revealed next week.

    They'll all be low diamonds, they'll have these packs scattered everywhere in the game as well for a collection.

    Oh. The skin tone of the 5 revealed happen to be people of color.

    Let's play ball here.

    If you want political stuff or cancel culture discussion, I'm sure you can find a reddit thread about Aunt Jemima, Mr Potato Head, Gina Carano, or D Watson.

    They got political last year. They threw it everyone’s face on the game and the forum. What you talking bout Willis.

    Last years was political, we all know why they did it and nobody blames them for sharing their stance on it. Not going down that rabbit hole, but this is quite a bit different since this is just celebrating the man who changed the game, and thats Jackie Robinson.

    Sharing their stance? You do know the political group they backed is anti-America right? Do a little research and you will see what they really stand for and it’s not about their t-shirt slogans either.

    straight facts. cant show people what they dont wanna see.

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    Are some people really whining over the mere possibility that "the 42" will be people of color?

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  • A_PerfectGame_PSNA Offline
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    @ikasnu_psn said in The “42”:

    @sean_87__psn said in The “42”:

    @hoboadam_psn said in The “42”:

    It's not political. Y'all are giving SDS too much credit. It's 5 ball players and it's a pre order pack. 5 more to get revealed next week.

    They'll all be low diamonds, they'll have these packs scattered everywhere in the game as well for a collection.

    Oh. The skin tone of the 5 revealed happen to be people of color.

    Let's play ball here.

    If you want political stuff or cancel culture discussion, I'm sure you can find a reddit thread about Aunt Jemima, Mr Potato Head, Gina Carano, or D Watson.

    They got political last year. They threw it everyone’s face on the game and the forum. What you talking bout Willis.

    Last years was political, we all know why they did it and nobody blames them for sharing their stance on it. Not going down that rabbit hole, but this is quite a bit different since this is just celebrating the man who changed the game, and thats Jackie Robinson.

    I blame them kind of. I think they should shut their mouth about their stance. There are a lot of law enforcement officers that were killed due to that sugar coated hate speech.

    And a lot of those officers play this game.

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    @formallyforearms said in The “42”:

    Are some people really whining over the mere possibility that "the 42" will be people of color?

    Would people whine if there was a ty Cobb pack that was labeled something and only included white players for the reason of white culture? or is that racist? I’m just anti-racism. Creating packs and ostracizing whole groups or creating groups based on a group identity seems racist to me

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    I love Jackie Robinson! I love the 42 pack! And i love the card art! I love the fact that part of the proceeds are going to the Jackie Robinson Foundation!

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    @a_perfectgame said in The “42”:

    @formallyforearms said in The “42”:

    Are some people really whining over the mere possibility that "the 42" will be people of color?

    Would people whine if there was a ty Cobb pack that was labeled something and only included white players for the reason of white culture? or is that racist? I’m just anti-racism. Creating packs and ostracizing whole groups or creating groups based on a group identity seems racist to me

    This exactly. If it’s considered racist for one group to do something, it’s just as racist for the other group to do it as well.

    I’m a black man that had relatively successful parents growing up, lived in a good neighborhood, and went to a good school. Point being, I’ve had a ton of white friends in my life. And I’ve had a lot of opportunities that were handed to me purely because of my race. We aren’t the most oppressed group in america anymore, not by a long shot. One look at all the anti-white rhetoric from the media and companies will tell you that. I’ve heard too many stories from my friends about being turned away from jobs solely because the company needed more diversity hires. It seems SDS is potentially bringing anti-white feelings and politics into the game this year more than ever, which is just sad and pointless, in my opinion.

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    @jogger171717_psn said in The “42”:

    @a_perfectgame said in The “42”:

    @formallyforearms said in The “42”:

    Are some people really whining over the mere possibility that "the 42" will be people of color?

    Would people whine if there was a ty Cobb pack that was labeled something and only included white players for the reason of white culture? or is that racist? I’m just anti-racism. Creating packs and ostracizing whole groups or creating groups based on a group identity seems racist to me

    This exactly. If it’s considered racist for one group to do something, it’s just as racist for the other group to do it as well.

    I’m a black man that had relatively successful parents growing up, lived in a good neighborhood, and went to a good school. Point being, I’ve had a ton of white friends in my life. And I’ve had a lot of opportunities that were handed to me purely because of my race. We aren’t the most oppressed group in america anymore, not by a long shot. One look at all the anti-white rhetoric from the media and companies will tell you that. I’ve heard too many stories from my friends about being turned away from jobs solely because the company needed more diversity hires. It seems SDS is potentially bringing anti-white feelings and politics into the game this year more than ever, which is just sad and pointless, in my opinion.

    Celebrating Jackie and recognizing the doors he opened for generations to come (not to mention acknowledging the grace and way he carried himself amidst all the needless suffering he endured) is not “anti-white.” Explain to me why that’s “anti-white.” A set of cards featuring African American or PoC is not divisive. You know what’s divisive? People spinning it as “anti-white.”

    That’s insane. Celebrating Jackie’s legacy doesn’t do anything to hurt white people. I’m white, and all us white people got together at the country club yesterday and we are going to find a way to power through this. So don’t worry about us, man. We’ll survive.

    All the people crying about how this is racist because it excludes white people should just do this little trick: tell yourself that any cards of players up to 1947 are part of your very own all-white people collection. So if any white people out there have their previous feelings hurt, just collect Honus and Cobb and Babe and Lou and Foxx and Cy and Lefty and Walter Johnson, etc etc etc and just rock your fragile self to sleep by telling yourself you’ve collected all the cards from the whites only collection.

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  • Novalusion_PSNN Offline
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    @themoshow___psn said in The “42”:

    @sean_87__psn said in The “42”:

    @ikasnu_psn said in The “42”:

    @sean_87__psn said in The “42”:

    @hoboadam_psn said in The “42”:

    It's not political. Y'all are giving SDS too much credit. It's 5 ball players and it's a pre order pack. 5 more to get revealed next week.

    They'll all be low diamonds, they'll have these packs scattered everywhere in the game as well for a collection.

    Oh. The skin tone of the 5 revealed happen to be people of color.

    Let's play ball here.

    If you want political stuff or cancel culture discussion, I'm sure you can find a reddit thread about Aunt Jemima, Mr Potato Head, Gina Carano, or D Watson.

    They got political last year. They threw it everyone’s face on the game and the forum. What you talking bout Willis.

    Last years was political, we all know why they did it and nobody blames them for sharing their stance on it. Not going down that rabbit hole, but this is quite a bit different since this is just celebrating the man who changed the game, and thats Jackie Robinson.

    Sharing their stance? You do know the political group they backed is anti-America right? Do a little research and you will see what they really stand for and it’s not about their t-shirt slogans either.

    straight facts. cant show people what they dont wanna

    have you ever seen the us naval building in san diego?

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  • A_PerfectGame_PSNA Offline
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    @jogger171717_psn said in The “42”:

    @a_perfectgame said in The “42”:

    @formallyforearms said in The “42”:

    Are some people really whining over the mere possibility that "the 42" will be people of color?

    Would people whine if there was a ty Cobb pack that was labeled something and only included white players for the reason of white culture? or is that racist? I’m just anti-racism. Creating packs and ostracizing whole groups or creating groups based on a group identity seems racist to me

    This exactly. If it’s considered racist for one group to do something, it’s just as racist for the other group to do it as well.

    I’m a black man that had relatively successful parents growing up, lived in a good neighborhood, and went to a good school. Point being, I’ve had a ton of white friends in my life. And I’ve had a lot of opportunities that were handed to me purely because of my race. We aren’t the most oppressed group in america anymore, not by a long shot. One look at all the anti-white rhetoric from the media and companies will tell you that. I’ve heard too many stories from my friends about being turned away from jobs solely because the company needed more diversity hires. It seems SDS is potentially bringing anti-white feelings and politics into the game this year more than ever, which is just sad and pointless, in my opinion.

    On the flip side I’m a white guy that grew up in a predominantly black area with mostly black friends growing up. And that’s why we stand firm on the same feelings on a topic being totally different races. Kudos man respect.

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  • Novalusion_PSNN Offline
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    @sean_87__psn said in The “42”:

    @ikasnu_psn said in The “42”:

    @sean_87__psn said in The “42”:

    @hoboadam_psn said in The “42”:

    It's not political. Y'all are giving SDS too much credit. It's 5 ball players and it's a pre order pack. 5 more to get revealed next week.

    They'll all be low diamonds, they'll have these packs scattered everywhere in the game as well for a collection.

    Oh. The skin tone of the 5 revealed happen to be people of color.

    Let's play ball here.

    If you want political stuff or cancel culture discussion, I'm sure you can find a reddit thread about Aunt Jemima, Mr Potato Head, Gina Carano, or D Watson.

    They got political last year. They threw it everyone’s face on the game and the forum. What you talking bout Willis.

    Last years was political, we all know why they did it and nobody blames them for sharing their stance on it. Not going down that rabbit hole, but this is quite a bit different since this is just celebrating the man who changed the game, and thats Jackie Robinson.

    Sharing their stance? You do know the political group they backed is anti-America right? Do a little research and you will see what they really stand for and it’s not about their t-shirt slogans either.

    https://images.app.goo.gl/FspxjCnx9sPKq8V3A

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    I know every word to the song viva la vida by Coldplay

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    @novalusion_psn said in The “42”:

    @sean_87__psn said in The “42”:

    @ikasnu_psn said in The “42”:

    @sean_87__psn said in The “42”:

    @hoboadam_psn said in The “42”:

    It's not political. Y'all are giving SDS too much credit. It's 5 ball players and it's a pre order pack. 5 more to get revealed next week.

    They'll all be low diamonds, they'll have these packs scattered everywhere in the game as well for a collection.

    Oh. The skin tone of the 5 revealed happen to be people of color.

    Let's play ball here.

    If you want political stuff or cancel culture discussion, I'm sure you can find a reddit thread about Aunt Jemima, Mr Potato Head, Gina Carano, or D Watson.

    They got political last year. They threw it everyone’s face on the game and the forum. What you talking bout Willis.

    Last years was political, we all know why they did it and nobody blames them for sharing their stance on it. Not going down that rabbit hole, but this is quite a bit different since this is just celebrating the man who changed the game, and thats Jackie Robinson.

    Sharing their stance? You do know the political group they backed is anti-America right? Do a little research and you will see what they really stand for and it’s not about their t-shirt slogans either.

    https://images.app.goo.gl/FspxjCnx9sPKq8V3A

    @novalusion_psn said in The “42”:

    @sean_87__psn said in The “42”:

    @ikasnu_psn said in The “42”:

    @sean_87__psn said in The “42”:

    @hoboadam_psn said in The “42”:

    It's not political. Y'all are giving SDS too much credit. It's 5 ball players and it's a pre order pack. 5 more to get revealed next week.

    They'll all be low diamonds, they'll have these packs scattered everywhere in the game as well for a collection.

    Oh. The skin tone of the 5 revealed happen to be people of color.

    Let's play ball here.

    If you want political stuff or cancel culture discussion, I'm sure you can find a reddit thread about Aunt Jemima, Mr Potato Head, Gina Carano, or D Watson.

    They got political last year. They threw it everyone’s face on the game and the forum. What you talking bout Willis.

    Last years was political, we all know why they did it and nobody blames them for sharing their stance on it. Not going down that rabbit hole, but this is quite a bit different since this is just celebrating the man who changed the game, and thats Jackie Robinson.

    Sharing their stance? You do know the political group they backed is anti-America right? Do a little research and you will see what they really stand for and it’s not about their t-shirt slogans either.

    https://images.app.goo.gl/FspxjCnx9sPKq8V3A

    What’s the relevance to this post? I’m not catching what you are throwing out there? Is the suggestion that America is inherently racist because the building they structured resembles a symbol used by fascists? It’s really just a symmetrical box and can be compared to almost anything.

    Let’s instead talk about their ideology which is almost identical to the ideology being pushed down our throats by groups that push slogans - which is “blame a group to make your group dominate”. That’s what the nazis did with the Jews. It’s called intersectionality and it’s a marxist doctrine that puts the proletariat verse the bourgeoisie. The soviets did this with the ukranian farmers back in the 20th century.

    America is going through this currently and everyone is buying it because it’s decorated and dressed up in “rights” and “equality” and is really just the same marxist doctrine to separate people based on identity so that we aren’t United as a people. But keep buying the Bs. Or pick up a history book.

    Either way. I don’t like racism regardless of who is the person that is spewing it.

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    @schnauzerface said in The “42”:

    @jogger171717_psn said in The “42”:

    @a_perfectgame said in The “42”:

    @formallyforearms said in The “42”:

    Are some people really whining over the mere possibility that "the 42" will be people of color?

    Would people whine if there was a ty Cobb pack that was labeled something and only included white players for the reason of white culture? or is that racist? I’m just anti-racism. Creating packs and ostracizing whole groups or creating groups based on a group identity seems racist to me

    This exactly. If it’s considered racist for one group to do something, it’s just as racist for the other group to do it as well.

    I’m a black man that had relatively successful parents growing up, lived in a good neighborhood, and went to a good school. Point being, I’ve had a ton of white friends in my life. And I’ve had a lot of opportunities that were handed to me purely because of my race. We aren’t the most oppressed group in america anymore, not by a long shot. One look at all the anti-white rhetoric from the media and companies will tell you that. I’ve heard too many stories from my friends about being turned away from jobs solely because the company needed more diversity hires. It seems SDS is potentially bringing anti-white feelings and politics into the game this year more than ever, which is just sad and pointless, in my opinion.

    Celebrating Jackie and recognizing the doors he opened for generations to come (not to mention acknowledging the grace and way he carried himself amidst all the needless suffering he endured) is not “anti-white.” Explain to me why that’s “anti-white.” A set of cards featuring African American or PoC is not divisive. You know what’s divisive? People spinning it as “anti-white.”

    That’s insane. Celebrating Jackie’s legacy doesn’t do anything to hurt white people. I’m white, and all us white people got together at the country club yesterday and we are going to find a way to power through this. So don’t worry about us, man. We’ll survive.

    All the people crying about how this is racist because it excludes white people should just do this little trick: tell yourself that any cards of players up to 1947 are part of your very own all-white people collection. So if any white people out there have their previous feelings hurt, just collect Honus and Cobb and Babe and Lou and Foxx and Cy and Lefty and Walter Johnson, etc etc etc and just rock your fragile self to sleep by telling yourself you’ve collected all the cards from the whites only collection.

    It’s really a simple concept.

    If SDS made a set of cards based on white players, with its own theme and artwork, and that explicitly excluded all minorities, people would say it’s extremely racist.

    The same is true for the 42 set. Excluding white players from it purely because of their skin color is the definition of racism.

    Double standards are abundant here.

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    @jogger171717_psn said in The “42”:

    @schnauzerface said in The “42”:

    @jogger171717_psn said in The “42”:

    @a_perfectgame said in The “42”:

    @formallyforearms said in The “42”:

    Are some people really whining over the mere possibility that "the 42" will be people of color?

    Would people whine if there was a ty Cobb pack that was labeled something and only included white players for the reason of white culture? or is that racist? I’m just anti-racism. Creating packs and ostracizing whole groups or creating groups based on a group identity seems racist to me

    This exactly. If it’s considered racist for one group to do something, it’s just as racist for the other group to do it as well.

    I’m a black man that had relatively successful parents growing up, lived in a good neighborhood, and went to a good school. Point being, I’ve had a ton of white friends in my life. And I’ve had a lot of opportunities that were handed to me purely because of my race. We aren’t the most oppressed group in america anymore, not by a long shot. One look at all the anti-white rhetoric from the media and companies will tell you that. I’ve heard too many stories from my friends about being turned away from jobs solely because the company needed more diversity hires. It seems SDS is potentially bringing anti-white feelings and politics into the game this year more than ever, which is just sad and pointless, in my opinion.

    Celebrating Jackie and recognizing the doors he opened for generations to come (not to mention acknowledging the grace and way he carried himself amidst all the needless suffering he endured) is not “anti-white.” Explain to me why that’s “anti-white.” A set of cards featuring African American or PoC is not divisive. You know what’s divisive? People spinning it as “anti-white.”

    That’s insane. Celebrating Jackie’s legacy doesn’t do anything to hurt white people. I’m white, and all us white people got together at the country club yesterday and we are going to find a way to power through this. So don’t worry about us, man. We’ll survive.

    All the people crying about how this is racist because it excludes white people should just do this little trick: tell yourself that any cards of players up to 1947 are part of your very own all-white people collection. So if any white people out there have their previous feelings hurt, just collect Honus and Cobb and Babe and Lou and Foxx and Cy and Lefty and Walter Johnson, etc etc etc and just rock your fragile self to sleep by telling yourself you’ve collected all the cards from the whites only collection.

    It’s really a simple concept.

    If SDS made a set of cards based on white players, with its own theme and artwork, and that explicitly excluded all minorities, people would say it’s extremely racist.

    The same is true for the 42 set. Excluding white players from it purely because of their skin color is the definition of racism.

    Double standards are abundant here.

    Here’s another simple concept: white people don’t need a series of cards celebrating the people who opened doors for us, because doors have always already just been open for us.

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    I think it’s pretty dopey when a company jumps in and posts about racism and social justice. I don’t care what Starbucks or McDonald’s thinks about racism. I just want them to get my coffee or sandwich order right. I can’t imagine there are many people out there that were ok with racism and then noticed a slogan on a Starbucks cup and said wow maybe this racism thing is bad.

    In the case of the 42 pack, if it turns out that all cards are players of color that seems appropriate to me. The pack is celebrating Robinson who broke the color barrier in baseball and is celebrated for it. To say anything about a pack to celebrate white players doesn’t make sense. There was never a need for anyone to break a color barrier for white players. I don’t know what the purpose of the pack is yet but if it is truly to celebrate Robinson and what he did for the game it kind of fits that all cards would be people of color.

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    @schnauzerface said in The “42”:

    @jogger171717_psn said in The “42”:

    @schnauzerface said in The “42”:

    @jogger171717_psn said in The “42”:

    @a_perfectgame said in The “42”:

    @formallyforearms said in The “42”:

    Are some people really whining over the mere possibility that "the 42" will be people of color?

    Would people whine if there was a ty Cobb pack that was labeled something and only included white players for the reason of white culture? or is that racist? I’m just anti-racism. Creating packs and ostracizing whole groups or creating groups based on a group identity seems racist to me

    This exactly. If it’s considered racist for one group to do something, it’s just as racist for the other group to do it as well.

    I’m a black man that had relatively successful parents growing up, lived in a good neighborhood, and went to a good school. Point being, I’ve had a ton of white friends in my life. And I’ve had a lot of opportunities that were handed to me purely because of my race. We aren’t the most oppressed group in america anymore, not by a long shot. One look at all the anti-white rhetoric from the media and companies will tell you that. I’ve heard too many stories from my friends about being turned away from jobs solely because the company needed more diversity hires. It seems SDS is potentially bringing anti-white feelings and politics into the game this year more than ever, which is just sad and pointless, in my opinion.

    Celebrating Jackie and recognizing the doors he opened for generations to come (not to mention acknowledging the grace and way he carried himself amidst all the needless suffering he endured) is not “anti-white.” Explain to me why that’s “anti-white.” A set of cards featuring African American or PoC is not divisive. You know what’s divisive? People spinning it as “anti-white.”

    That’s insane. Celebrating Jackie’s legacy doesn’t do anything to hurt white people. I’m white, and all us white people got together at the country club yesterday and we are going to find a way to power through this. So don’t worry about us, man. We’ll survive.

    All the people crying about how this is racist because it excludes white people should just do this little trick: tell yourself that any cards of players up to 1947 are part of your very own all-white people collection. So if any white people out there have their previous feelings hurt, just collect Honus and Cobb and Babe and Lou and Foxx and Cy and Lefty and Walter Johnson, etc etc etc and just rock your fragile self to sleep by telling yourself you’ve collected all the cards from the whites only collection.

    It’s really a simple concept.

    If SDS made a set of cards based on white players, with its own theme and artwork, and that explicitly excluded all minorities, people would say it’s extremely racist.

    The same is true for the 42 set. Excluding white players from it purely because of their skin color is the definition of racism.

    Double standards are abundant here.

    Here’s another simple concept: white people don’t need a series of cards celebrating the people who opened doors for us, because doors have always already just been open for us.

    That’s actually FALSE. The Irish came here as slaves and were poor. There were signs for the Irish (white decent) saying “no Irish allowed” they were considered lesser people. Italians migrated here and were not allowed to participate in certain things due to identity. Identity and racism of all sorts has been going on forever and groups keep it going because it helps their political agenda thrive.

    You don’t hear about it because it doesn’t sell just like you don’t hear about the white folk that are killed by police at a higher percentage then black folk. Facts matter. Racism is bad

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    Must be something wrong with me, all I thought when I saw 42 was "hey cool, honoring Jackie AND we get 42 diamonds to choose from at the start"

    Not 1 single time did I even think of race.

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    @a_perfectgame said in The “42”:

    @schnauzerface said in The “42”:

    @jogger171717_psn said in The “42”:

    @schnauzerface said in The “42”:

    @jogger171717_psn said in The “42”:

    @a_perfectgame said in The “42”:

    @formallyforearms said in The “42”:

    Are some people really whining over the mere possibility that "the 42" will be people of color?

    Would people whine if there was a ty Cobb pack that was labeled something and only included white players for the reason of white culture? or is that racist? I’m just anti-racism. Creating packs and ostracizing whole groups or creating groups based on a group identity seems racist to me

    This exactly. If it’s considered racist for one group to do something, it’s just as racist for the other group to do it as well.

    I’m a black man that had relatively successful parents growing up, lived in a good neighborhood, and went to a good school. Point being, I’ve had a ton of white friends in my life. And I’ve had a lot of opportunities that were handed to me purely because of my race. We aren’t the most oppressed group in america anymore, not by a long shot. One look at all the anti-white rhetoric from the media and companies will tell you that. I’ve heard too many stories from my friends about being turned away from jobs solely because the company needed more diversity hires. It seems SDS is potentially bringing anti-white feelings and politics into the game this year more than ever, which is just sad and pointless, in my opinion.

    Celebrating Jackie and recognizing the doors he opened for generations to come (not to mention acknowledging the grace and way he carried himself amidst all the needless suffering he endured) is not “anti-white.” Explain to me why that’s “anti-white.” A set of cards featuring African American or PoC is not divisive. You know what’s divisive? People spinning it as “anti-white.”

    That’s insane. Celebrating Jackie’s legacy doesn’t do anything to hurt white people. I’m white, and all us white people got together at the country club yesterday and we are going to find a way to power through this. So don’t worry about us, man. We’ll survive.

    All the people crying about how this is racist because it excludes white people should just do this little trick: tell yourself that any cards of players up to 1947 are part of your very own all-white people collection. So if any white people out there have their previous feelings hurt, just collect Honus and Cobb and Babe and Lou and Foxx and Cy and Lefty and Walter Johnson, etc etc etc and just rock your fragile self to sleep by telling yourself you’ve collected all the cards from the whites only collection.

    It’s really a simple concept.

    If SDS made a set of cards based on white players, with its own theme and artwork, and that explicitly excluded all minorities, people would say it’s extremely racist.

    The same is true for the 42 set. Excluding white players from it purely because of their skin color is the definition of racism.

    Double standards are abundant here.

    Here’s another simple concept: white people don’t need a series of cards celebrating the people who opened doors for us, because doors have always already just been open for us.

    That’s actually FALSE. The Irish came here as slaves and were poor. There were signs for the Irish (white decent) saying “no Irish allowed” they were considered lesser people. Italians migrated here and were not allowed to participate in certain things due to identity. Identity and racism of all sorts has been going on forever and groups keep it going because it helps their political agenda thrive.

    You don’t hear about it because it doesn’t sell just like you don’t hear about the white folk that are killed by police at a higher percentage then black folk. Facts matter. Racism is bad

    Lolololol man did you ever miss the point of that era or history.

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