Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer
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@EJNave said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@Maverick31762 said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
If this were true everyone would have the same record.
MLB has always been different from nba or nfl. Best team doesn’t always win cuz of randomness
This is SUCH a bad response. The worse team ALWAYS loses. Always. The reason why the Orioles beat the Yankees occasionally is because the team didn't play well, NOT because they got screwed and lined out all game. This logic makes no sense to me.
Really, the worse team always loses. If that is the case why do they play 7 game series? Why not just a one game playoff
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@Maverick31762 said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@EJNave said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@Maverick31762 said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
If this were true everyone would have the same record.
MLB has always been different from nba or nfl. Best team doesn’t always win cuz of randomness
This is SUCH a bad response. The worse team ALWAYS loses. Always. The reason why the Orioles beat the Yankees occasionally is because the team didn't play well, NOT because they got screwed and lined out all game. This logic makes no sense to me.
Really, the worse team always loses. If that is the case why do they play 7 game series? Why not just a one game playoff
Did you read my comment? I said that yes, occasionally the better team loses because they didn't play well on the day, therefore making them a worse team ON THAT DAY. You will NEVER see a team lose because they lined out all game.
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No, I read it. I am saying that baseball can be random and sometimes a bloop is better than a harder liner at someone. So you can lineout and get hit hard, but end up losing on a bloop. I have seen no hitters where there were a bunch of hard liners or good plays being made.
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@Maverick31762 said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
No, I read it. I am saying that baseball can be random and sometimes a bloop is better than a harder liner at someone. So you can lineout and get hit hard, but end up losing on a bloop. I have seen no hitters where there were a bunch of hard liners or good plays being made.
But the emphasis should be placed on "sometimes". Often times, in this game, that "sometimes" turns into ALL the time. I think that's when you see people getting frustrated.
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@EJNave said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@Maverick31762 said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
No, I read it. I am saying that baseball can be random and sometimes a bloop is better than a harder liner at someone. So you can lineout and get hit hard, but end up losing on a bloop. I have seen no hitters where there were a bunch of hard liners or good plays being made.
But the emphasis should be placed on "sometimes". Often times, in this game, that "sometimes" turns into ALL the time. I think that's when you see people getting frustrated.
No, people get frustrated when they lose because they believe themselves to be better than their opponent and therefore should never lose.. It is a false belief. The arrogance of people who complain when they lose is sickening. We are all playing the same darn game.
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@Vipersneak said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@EJNave said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@Maverick31762 said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
No, I read it. I am saying that baseball can be random and sometimes a bloop is better than a harder liner at someone. So you can lineout and get hit hard, but end up losing on a bloop. I have seen no hitters where there were a bunch of hard liners or good plays being made.
But the emphasis should be placed on "sometimes". Often times, in this game, that "sometimes" turns into ALL the time. I think that's when you see people getting frustrated.
No, people get frustrated when they lose because they believe themselves to be better than their opponent and therefore should never lose.. It is a false belief. The arrogance of people who complain when they lose is sickening. We are all playing the same darn game.
Yikes...
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@Vipersneak said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@EJNave said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@Maverick31762 said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
No, I read it. I am saying that baseball can be random and sometimes a bloop is better than a harder liner at someone. So you can lineout and get hit hard, but end up losing on a bloop. I have seen no hitters where there were a bunch of hard liners or good plays being made.
But the emphasis should be placed on "sometimes". Often times, in this game, that "sometimes" turns into ALL the time. I think that's when you see people getting frustrated.
No, people get frustrated when they lose because they believe themselves to be better than their opponent and therefore should never lose.. It is a false belief. The arrogance of people who complain when they lose is sickening. We are all playing the same darn game.
I think it's a little of both. There are defintely people out there who create a narrative in their head when facing an opponent that they are the "superior" players. But there are also a lot of players who have legitimate gripes
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@Vipersneak said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@EJNave said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@Maverick31762 said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
No, I read it. I am saying that baseball can be random and sometimes a bloop is better than a harder liner at someone. So you can lineout and get hit hard, but end up losing on a bloop. I have seen no hitters where there were a bunch of hard liners or good plays being made.
But the emphasis should be placed on "sometimes". Often times, in this game, that "sometimes" turns into ALL the time. I think that's when you see people getting frustrated.
No, people get frustrated when they lose because they believe themselves to be better than their opponent and therefore should never lose.. It is a false belief. The arrogance of people who complain when they lose is sickening. We are all playing the same darn game.
This is basically like beating the same dead horse at this stage, but, considering how ignorant this take is, I feel compelled to respond...
Who do you think, objectively, hit better in this example:
Hitter 1:
https://i.ibb.co/K5s0y4b/Screenshot-20191228-133140-Chrome.jpg[/img][/url]Or
Hitter 2:
https://i.ibb.co/99279v2/Screenshot-20191228-133115-Chrome.jpg[/img][/url]?
Would it surprise you to hear that hitter 2 won the game?
How about here:
Hitter 1:
https://i.ibb.co/CQyV3DK/Screenshot-20191228-132843-Chrome.jpg[/img][/url]Or
Hitter 2:
https://i.ibb.co/kxmZHbt/Screenshot-20191228-132911-Chrome.jpg[/img][/url]?
Would it surprise you that hitter 2 won?
These are just two very recent examples of mine. This happens very frequently with MLB 19, where the person, who is objectively and significantly outperforming his opponent, loses due to RNG.
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@eatyum said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@Vipersneak said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@EJNave said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@Maverick31762 said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
No, I read it. I am saying that baseball can be random and sometimes a bloop is better than a harder liner at someone. So you can lineout and get hit hard, but end up losing on a bloop. I have seen no hitters where there were a bunch of hard liners or good plays being made.
But the emphasis should be placed on "sometimes". Often times, in this game, that "sometimes" turns into ALL the time. I think that's when you see people getting frustrated.
No, people get frustrated when they lose because they believe themselves to be better than their opponent and therefore should never lose.. It is a false belief. The arrogance of people who complain when they lose is sickening. We are all playing the same darn game.
I think it's a little of both. There are defintely people out there who create a narrative in their head when facing an opponent that they are the "superior" players. But there are also a lot of players who have legitimate gripes
It is rare when someone gets on the forums to gripe when they win. The game isn't perfect, but every player has the same issues. To say that "you" are a better player and that the game cheats for your opponent is not an honest narrative. Most of the time we play people at a similar skill level. I am keenly aware when I play someone significantly better than I am, and I rarely win those games.
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@SefarR said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@Vipersneak said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@EJNave said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@Maverick31762 said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
No, I read it. I am saying that baseball can be random and sometimes a bloop is better than a harder liner at someone. So you can lineout and get hit hard, but end up losing on a bloop. I have seen no hitters where there were a bunch of hard liners or good plays being made.
But the emphasis should be placed on "sometimes". Often times, in this game, that "sometimes" turns into ALL the time. I think that's when you see people getting frustrated.
No, people get frustrated when they lose because they believe themselves to be better than their opponent and therefore should never lose.. It is a false belief. The arrogance of people who complain when they lose is sickening. We are all playing the same darn game.
This is basically like beating the same dead horse at this stage, but, considering how ignorant this take is, I feel compelled to respond...
Who do you think, objectively, hit better in this example:
Hitter 1:
https://i.ibb.co/K5s0y4b/Screenshot-20191228-133140-Chrome.jpg[/img][/url]Or
Hitter 2:
https://i.ibb.co/99279v2/Screenshot-20191228-133115-Chrome.jpg[/img][/url]?
Would it surprise you to hear that hitter 2 won the game?
How about here:
Hitter 1:
https://i.ibb.co/CQyV3DK/Screenshot-20191228-132843-Chrome.jpg[/img][/url]Or
Hitter 2:
https://i.ibb.co/kxmZHbt/Screenshot-20191228-132911-Chrome.jpg[/img][/url]?
Would it surprise you that hitter 2 won?
These are just two very recent examples of mine. This happens very frequently with MLB 19, where the person, who is objectively and significantly outperforming his opponent, loses due to RNG.
Doesn't surprise me at all. Not any more than the Detroit Tigers occasionally beating the Houston Astros. It happens in baseball. The data you are showing is misleading, or at least it is misleading to you. It does not take into account many factors, such as WHEN something happens. There are cards with very high clutch ratings that will definitely perform better late in a game and anyone can get lucky. If you have not scored runs for whatever reason it really is possible that someone less skilled can beat you. Sorry to burst your arrogance bubble.
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@Vipersneak said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@SefarR said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@Vipersneak said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@EJNave said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@Maverick31762 said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
No, I read it. I am saying that baseball can be random and sometimes a bloop is better than a harder liner at someone. So you can lineout and get hit hard, but end up losing on a bloop. I have seen no hitters where there were a bunch of hard liners or good plays being made.
But the emphasis should be placed on "sometimes". Often times, in this game, that "sometimes" turns into ALL the time. I think that's when you see people getting frustrated.
No, people get frustrated when they lose because they believe themselves to be better than their opponent and therefore should never lose.. It is a false belief. The arrogance of people who complain when they lose is sickening. We are all playing the same darn game.
This is basically like beating the same dead horse at this stage, but, considering how ignorant this take is, I feel compelled to respond...
Who do you think, objectively, hit better in this example:
Hitter 1:
https://i.ibb.co/K5s0y4b/Screenshot-20191228-133140-Chrome.jpg[/img][/url]Or
Hitter 2:
https://i.ibb.co/99279v2/Screenshot-20191228-133115-Chrome.jpg[/img][/url]?
Would it surprise you to hear that hitter 2 won the game?
How about here:
Hitter 1:
https://i.ibb.co/CQyV3DK/Screenshot-20191228-132843-Chrome.jpg[/img][/url]Or
Hitter 2:
https://i.ibb.co/kxmZHbt/Screenshot-20191228-132911-Chrome.jpg[/img][/url]?
Would it surprise you that hitter 2 won?
These are just two very recent examples of mine. This happens very frequently with MLB 19, where the person, who is objectively and significantly outperforming his opponent, loses due to RNG.
Doesn't surprise me at all. Not any more than the Detroit Tigers occasionally beating the Houston Astros. It happens in baseball. The data you are showing is misleading, or at least it is misleading to you. It does not take into account many factors, such as WHEN something happens. There are cards with very high clutch ratings that will definitely perform better late in a game and anyone can get lucky. If you have not scored runs for whatever reason it really is possible that someone less skilled can beat you. Sorry to burst your arrogance bubble.
Another weak argument.
For the tigers to beat the Astros they either play better than the Astros on that particular day or at the very least play to a very similar level which would leave an opening to for "luck" to play a factor.
This does not reflect what happens frequently in MLB the show where you can have one player objectively crushing the opponent (as is the case in my first example) and still lose. This does not reflect real life in any way.
Look at the PCI analyses objectively.
Clearly, you like the fact that the rng helps you more than it hurts you because otherwise you'd compete even less and this is why you try to come up with pathetic excuses for the rng.
Edit: it appears you dont even play ranked seasons (18 games all year) so your input is meaningless.
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This is funny to see people complain about losing a video game. Sometimes those are the breaks. If you have ever played a competitive sport irl you would know that it’s not always being better often if about being timely.l and sometimes a bit of luck. There are so many factors that go into any given win. The best team or athlete in sports doesn’t always win. I think of Anderson Silva vs Sonnen or Derek Jeters career. But whatever, some people want to think that some outside force or ent is holding them down...grievance mindset, instead of growth mindset
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@Maverick31762 said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
This is funny to see people complain about losing a video game. Sometimes those are the breaks. If you have ever played a competitive sport irl you would know that it’s not always being better often if about being timely.l and sometimes a bit of luck. There are so many factors that go into any given win. The best team or athlete in sports doesn’t always win. I think of Anderson Silva vs Sonnen or Derek Jeters career. But whatever, some people want to think that some outside force or ent is holding them down...grievance mindset, instead of growth mindset
I’m not sure what your ranked seasons record is, but of your losses, do you find that many of them occur after blowing a lead in the 7th, 8th, or 9th? I lose in all sorts of ways, but some of which occur after losing my lead in the latter innings. If you find that you don’t struggle with blowing leads late, what are some of the strategies you use to keep that from happening?
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I’m just curious, has anyone noticed a difference in gameplay in the new RS? I was getting crushed by everyone last season, but it seems like it’s back to normal. Not getting crushed as much now. It’s not a homerun derby every inning.
Also, I think SDS has adjusted the contact/power sliders this RS. I’ve seen a lot more contact with the ball in the upper portion of the PCI with good/okay/90MPH resulting in a soft line out...with Mays, belli, etc. I would think it would be a high fly ball or a deep line out with their power.
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@SefarR said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@Vipersneak said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@SefarR said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@Vipersneak said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@EJNave said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@Maverick31762 said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
No, I read it. I am saying that baseball can be random and sometimes a bloop is better than a harder liner at someone. So you can lineout and get hit hard, but end up losing on a bloop. I have seen no hitters where there were a bunch of hard liners or good plays being made.
But the emphasis should be placed on "sometimes". Often times, in this game, that "sometimes" turns into ALL the time. I think that's when you see people getting frustrated.
No, people get frustrated when they lose because they believe themselves to be better than their opponent and therefore should never lose.. It is a false belief. The arrogance of people who complain when they lose is sickening. We are all playing the same darn game.
This is basically like beating the same dead horse at this stage, but, considering how ignorant this take is, I feel compelled to respond...
Who do you think, objectively, hit better in this example:
Hitter 1:
https://i.ibb.co/K5s0y4b/Screenshot-20191228-133140-Chrome.jpg[/img][/url]Or
Hitter 2:
https://i.ibb.co/99279v2/Screenshot-20191228-133115-Chrome.jpg[/img][/url]?
Would it surprise you to hear that hitter 2 won the game?
How about here:
Hitter 1:
https://i.ibb.co/CQyV3DK/Screenshot-20191228-132843-Chrome.jpg[/img][/url]Or
Hitter 2:
https://i.ibb.co/kxmZHbt/Screenshot-20191228-132911-Chrome.jpg[/img][/url]?
Would it surprise you that hitter 2 won?
These are just two very recent examples of mine. This happens very frequently with MLB 19, where the person, who is objectively and significantly outperforming his opponent, loses due to RNG.
Doesn't surprise me at all. Not any more than the Detroit Tigers occasionally beating the Houston Astros. It happens in baseball. The data you are showing is misleading, or at least it is misleading to you. It does not take into account many factors, such as WHEN something happens. There are cards with very high clutch ratings that will definitely perform better late in a game and anyone can get lucky. If you have not scored runs for whatever reason it really is possible that someone less skilled can beat you. Sorry to burst your arrogance bubble.
Another weak argument.
For the tigers to beat the Astros they either play better than the Astros on that particular day or at the very least play to a very similar level which would leave an opening to for "luck" to play a factor.
This does not reflect what happens frequently in MLB the show where you can have one player objectively crushing the opponent (as is the case in my first example) and still lose. This does not reflect real life in any way.
Look at the PCI analyses objectively.
Clearly, you like the fact that the rng helps you more than it hurts you because otherwise you'd compete even less and this is why you try to come up with pathetic excuses for the rng.
Edit: it appears you dont even play ranked seasons (18 games all year) so your input is meaningless.
I didn't realize that RS was the only way to play DD online. Your arrogance is unbelievable.
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@Maverick31762 said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
This is funny to see people complain about losing a video game. Sometimes those are the breaks. If you have ever played a competitive sport irl you would know that it’s not always being better often if about being timely.l and sometimes a bit of luck. There are so many factors that go into any given win. The best team or athlete in sports doesn’t always win. I think of Anderson Silva vs Sonnen or Derek Jeters career. But whatever, some people want to think that some outside force or ent is holding them down...grievance mindset, instead of growth mindset
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I've competed in several sports at a relatively high tier, freeskiing, badminton, BJJ - in none of those sports does luck play a factor.
You severely exaggerate the influence of luck in baseball as well.
Tigers can beat the Yankees but relatively speaking the skill gap between the two is far from what the skill gap is between your average DS grinder and Rebel. Furthermore, the days in which the Tigers beat the Yankees they either objectively outperform them or play on par with them to leave an opening for any luck to factor in.
Never in baseball do you have a situation where one team is absolutely crushing the ball and loses to a team hopelessly flailing at pitches. In MLB the show that actually occurs.
It's also ridiculous and inane to call a desire for meritocracy a "grievance mindset".
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@Vipersneak said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@SefarR said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@Vipersneak said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@SefarR said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@Vipersneak said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@EJNave said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@Maverick31762 said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
No, I read it. I am saying that baseball can be random and sometimes a bloop is better than a harder liner at someone. So you can lineout and get hit hard, but end up losing on a bloop. I have seen no hitters where there were a bunch of hard liners or good plays being made.
But the emphasis should be placed on "sometimes". Often times, in this game, that "sometimes" turns into ALL the time. I think that's when you see people getting frustrated.
No, people get frustrated when they lose because they believe themselves to be better than their opponent and therefore should never lose.. It is a false belief. The arrogance of people who complain when they lose is sickening. We are all playing the same darn game.
This is basically like beating the same dead horse at this stage, but, considering how ignorant this take is, I feel compelled to respond...
Who do you think, objectively, hit better in this example:
Hitter 1:
https://i.ibb.co/K5s0y4b/Screenshot-20191228-133140-Chrome.jpg[/img][/url]Or
Hitter 2:
https://i.ibb.co/99279v2/Screenshot-20191228-133115-Chrome.jpg[/img][/url]?
Would it surprise you to hear that hitter 2 won the game?
How about here:
Hitter 1:
https://i.ibb.co/CQyV3DK/Screenshot-20191228-132843-Chrome.jpg[/img][/url]Or
Hitter 2:
https://i.ibb.co/kxmZHbt/Screenshot-20191228-132911-Chrome.jpg[/img][/url]?
Would it surprise you that hitter 2 won?
These are just two very recent examples of mine. This happens very frequently with MLB 19, where the person, who is objectively and significantly outperforming his opponent, loses due to RNG.
Doesn't surprise me at all. Not any more than the Detroit Tigers occasionally beating the Houston Astros. It happens in baseball. The data you are showing is misleading, or at least it is misleading to you. It does not take into account many factors, such as WHEN something happens. There are cards with very high clutch ratings that will definitely perform better late in a game and anyone can get lucky. If you have not scored runs for whatever reason it really is possible that someone less skilled can beat you. Sorry to burst your arrogance bubble.
Another weak argument.
For the tigers to beat the Astros they either play better than the Astros on that particular day or at the very least play to a very similar level which would leave an opening to for "luck" to play a factor.
This does not reflect what happens frequently in MLB the show where you can have one player objectively crushing the opponent (as is the case in my first example) and still lose. This does not reflect real life in any way.
Look at the PCI analyses objectively.
Clearly, you like the fact that the rng helps you more than it hurts you because otherwise you'd compete even less and this is why you try to come up with pathetic excuses for the rng.
Edit: it appears you dont even play ranked seasons (18 games all year) so your input is meaningless.
I didn't realize that RS was the only way to play DD online. Your arrogance is unbelievable.
If you think BR or events are the same as RS then you are even more clueless than I thought. I'm not even sure you understand what the word "arrogance" means.
Not surprisingly, you skipped all the counter-arguments in my post. I wonder why...
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It's amusing to see all the casuals getting their panties in a bunch over the objective fact that the player who played better in a certain game loses WAY too much. Everyone that argues against it has barely played online. At least argue what you know.
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@vagimon said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@Maverick31762 said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
This is funny to see people complain about losing a video game. Sometimes those are the breaks. If you have ever played a competitive sport irl you would know that it’s not always being better often if about being timely.l and sometimes a bit of luck. There are so many factors that go into any given win. The best team or athlete in sports doesn’t always win. I think of Anderson Silva vs Sonnen or Derek Jeters career. But whatever, some people want to think that some outside force or ent is holding them down...grievance mindset, instead of growth mindset
I’m not sure what your ranked seasons record is, but of your losses, do you find that many of them occur after blowing a lead in the 7th, 8th, or 9th? I lose in all sorts of ways, but some of which occur after losing my lead in the latter innings. If you find that you don’t struggle with blowing leads late, what are some of the strategies you use to keep that from happening?
I don’t think I blow leads late. I pull the pitcher when they are tired and pay attention to pitch count. I also pay attention to pitch confidence in terms of selection in clutch situations.
On the offensive side to me it’s about working the count to increase pitch total and reduce confidence.
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@EJNave said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
It's amusing to see all the casuals getting their panties in a bunch over the objective fact that the player who played better in a certain game loses WAY too much. Everyone that argues against it has barely played online. At least argue what you know.
I have well 500 online games played so I am not quite casual. You are not using the word objective correctly as you are applying your subjective anecdotal experience to everyone.