LOL Dodgers & Astros.
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For me, an average baseball fan , (not an Astros or Dodgers fan) the real sticking point is the lack of remorse shown by Astros players after the scandal was uncovered.
IMO, they should be humbly taking their lumps right now, not swaggering and clearing the bases.
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Just gonna leave this right here...
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2020/07/dodgers-astros-orel-hershiser-sick-burn-on-jose-altuve-strike-out
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@mjfc_363 said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@byrdman-10 said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@mjfc_363 said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@byrdman-10 said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@NCStateHokie said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@byrdman-10 said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
Dodgers are a bunch of whiny [censored] b...s
Well I'd say being potentially jipped out of a championship because of cheating is a pretty valid reason to be upset and I am not a fan of LAD at all!
Yes and all Dodger fans are still crying. Last time I checked we are still WS Champs in 2017, beat you twice in your home park, Bellinger striking out a million times had nothing to do with you losing? Just face it your team can't win the big games, get use to always finishing second, or worse.
Omg listen to how proud you are of you’re CHEATERS!!! They are CHEATERS!!! CHEATERS!!! CHEATERS!!!
When your opinion means something to me I will be sure to let you know. So funny that you are so clueless that the Astros are the only team that cheated. Boston did got a slap on the wrist, they had something on New York and all of a sudden that is swept under the rug? It was a wakeup call to most of the teams that were doing it. Plus if the Dodgers are really that stupid and not able to change signs to avoid this they deserve what they got.
So let’s just endorse cheating!! You sir, are an idiot!!
FU
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@dbarmonstar said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@byrdman-10 said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@mjfc_363 said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@byrdman-10 said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@NCStateHokie said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@byrdman-10 said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
Dodgers are a bunch of whiny [censored] b...s
Well I'd say being potentially jipped out of a championship because of cheating is a pretty valid reason to be upset and I am not a fan of LAD at all!
Yes and all Dodger fans are still crying. Last time I checked we are still WS Champs in 2017, beat you twice in your home park, Bellinger striking out a million times had nothing to do with you losing? Just face it your team can't win the big games, get use to always finishing second, or worse.
Omg listen to how proud you are of you’re CHEATERS!!! They are CHEATERS!!! CHEATERS!!! CHEATERS!!!
When your opinion means something to me I will be sure to let you know. So funny that you are so clueless that the Astros are the only team that cheated. Boston did got a slap on the wrist, they had something on New York and all of a sudden that is swept under the rug? It was a wakeup call to most of the teams that were doing it. Plus if the Dodgers are really that stupid and not able to change signs to avoid this they deserve what they got.
Changing signs would not have stopped the Atros from cheating and they would have figured the signs out quickly, By defending your team that cheated you are saying it is ok to cheat as long as you win a WS. How does another team deserve to lose because a team cheated. Keep trying and keep making yourself look foolish.
No cheating is wrong, period and with the amount of talent they had was not even necessary, they continued to win in 2018 and 2019 and have not been accused of cheating. The problem I have are all the comments about how the Dodgers would have won even though they lost two in their home. Also sick of all the goodie two shoes, look who were the main components of it, Alex Cora and Carlos Beltran and go track their roots. Plus the Red Sox get their video guy fired by using Cora's system compared to what the Astros were nailed with and what happened about the letters that proved the Yanks were cheating as well, must have been swept under the rug? Again not condoning cheating but it has always been around baseball so it's nothing new. And yet three years later Dodger fans are still whining, put on your big boy pants and get over it.
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@jreyes533 said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
Just gonna leave this right here...
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2020/07/dodgers-astros-orel-hershiser-sick-burn-on-jose-altuve-strike-out
That would be a more cute comment if it was one of the guys that relied on the banging signals like Marwin Gonzales, Correa, Beltran, or Bregman. But Altuve was one of the 3 guys found not to have used the banging signals.
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@dbarmonstar said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@byrdman-10 said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@byrdman-10 said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@EJWalsh said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
Sorry, but the Astros have been cheating since 17. When did they get good? Oh right, 17! In my book they have not won anything yet because they cheated. Now I know my "book" does not matter to anybody but me, but they still have to prove themselves to me and a lot of other fans out there. I don't think people should be proud of a team that had to cheat to win. Just my opinion.
Not true go do your homework, that started in 2015. Were they wrong, absolutely but just sick and tired of Dodger fans still crying three years later when they did not to enough in that series to win anyway.
And were pretty good in 2018 and 2019.
The series went 7 games, how is that not enough when you have to overcome cheating, yeah they did enough to win that series if the tros did not cheat. I am a dodger fan, We will never know who would of really won if the astros did not cheat. I am not over here crying about it. The thing that upset people is how MLB handled the situation, the players got away with cheating that was the problem. The Tros won but it is now tainted and you can not say the dodger would not have won if the Astros did not cheat. I will not saying dodger would have won but now it leaves a lot of question marks and put a Black eye on the 2017 WS. Most fans never cared about the Astros and now they are hated by most fans to me it's sad as a baseball fan not just a dodger fan.
And most fans can't stand the arrogant Dodgers. Add to that Joe Kelly who won a WS with the Red Sox using the same scheme takes it upon himself to try and seriously injure another player, he will get his. He fits right in with your club, bunch of hypocrites.
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@byrdman-10 said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@dbarmonstar said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@byrdman-10 said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@mjfc_363 said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@byrdman-10 said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@NCStateHokie said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@byrdman-10 said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
Dodgers are a bunch of whiny [censored] b...s
Well I'd say being potentially jipped out of a championship because of cheating is a pretty valid reason to be upset and I am not a fan of LAD at all!
Yes and all Dodger fans are still crying. Last time I checked we are still WS Champs in 2017, beat you twice in your home park, Bellinger striking out a million times had nothing to do with you losing? Just face it your team can't win the big games, get use to always finishing second, or worse.
Omg listen to how proud you are of you’re CHEATERS!!! They are CHEATERS!!! CHEATERS!!! CHEATERS!!!
When your opinion means something to me I will be sure to let you know. So funny that you are so clueless that the Astros are the only team that cheated. Boston did got a slap on the wrist, they had something on New York and all of a sudden that is swept under the rug? It was a wakeup call to most of the teams that were doing it. Plus if the Dodgers are really that stupid and not able to change signs to avoid this they deserve what they got.
Changing signs would not have stopped the Atros from cheating and they would have figured the signs out quickly, By defending your team that cheated you are saying it is ok to cheat as long as you win a WS. How does another team deserve to lose because a team cheated. Keep trying and keep making yourself look foolish.
No cheating is wrong, period and with the amount of talent they had was not even necessary, they continued to win in 2018 and 2019 and have not been accused of cheating. The problem I have are all the comments about how the Dodgers would have won even though they lost two in their home. Also sick of all the goodie two shoes, look who were the main components of it, Alex Cora and Carlos Beltran and go track their roots. Plus the Red Sox get their video guy fired by using Cora's system compared to what the Astros were nailed with and what happened about the letters that proved the Yanks were cheating as well, must have been swept under the rug? Again not condoning cheating but it has always been around baseball so it's nothing new. And yet three years later Dodger fans are still whining, put on your big boy pants and get over it.
yeah the dodger lost two at home but Astros cheated at home, no telling if the dodgers would of won the games if Astros do not cheat, All I am saying we will never know who would of won that WS, It did go 7 games, it is very likely dodgers would have won the series if the Astros did not cheat, We will never know cause the Astros tainted the series, I take offense to you saying the dodger deserve what they got becasue they did not change there signs, The Astros should not have cheated plain and simple, do not act like the Astros would have won straight up cause they did not. You as a Astros fan should not be defending them at all instead you could had defuse the situation by just saying yeah I understand what the Atros did was wrong, no need for all the back and forth, being an astros fan you should accept that fact they cheated to win that is the bottom line and the players got away with it. The players made a mistake but a mistake the player and the fans will have to live with forever. Me as a dodger fan it does suck cause it is like wow the dodgers got screwed out of another Ring. How would you feel it was the dodger that cheated and the Astros were are the losing end of one of the best WS ever but not no more.
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No one is Houston is happy with what happened but there is no way to know who would have won.. Love your comment that the Dodgers got screwed out of another ring, see a pattern here?
Plus throwing as someones head is how you get back, do you condone that?
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@byrdman-10 said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@dbarmonstar said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@byrdman-10 said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@byrdman-10 said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@EJWalsh said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
Sorry, but the Astros have been cheating since 17. When did they get good? Oh right, 17! In my book they have not won anything yet because they cheated. Now I know my "book" does not matter to anybody but me, but they still have to prove themselves to me and a lot of other fans out there. I don't think people should be proud of a team that had to cheat to win. Just my opinion.
Not true go do your homework, that started in 2015. Were they wrong, absolutely but just sick and tired of Dodger fans still crying three years later when they did not to enough in that series to win anyway.
And were pretty good in 2018 and 2019.
The series went 7 games, how is that not enough when you have to overcome cheating, yeah they did enough to win that series if the tros did not cheat. I am a dodger fan, We will never know who would of really won if the astros did not cheat. I am not over here crying about it. The thing that upset people is how MLB handled the situation, the players got away with cheating that was the problem. The Tros won but it is now tainted and you can not say the dodger would not have won if the Astros did not cheat. I will not saying dodger would have won but now it leaves a lot of question marks and put a Black eye on the 2017 WS. Most fans never cared about the Astros and now they are hated by most fans to me it's sad as a baseball fan not just a dodger fan.
And most fans can't stand the arrogant Dodgers. Add to that Joe Kelly who won a WS with the Red Sox using the same scheme takes it upon himself to try and seriously injure another player, he will get his. He fits right in with your club, bunch of hypocrites.
I do not think I am an arrogant dodger fan, The Red Sox were investigated so stop bringing them into it they have nothing to do with 2017. The Astros brought this on themselves with petty and not honest apology and they all seem it was not a big deal to cheat some do not even think what they did was wrong. talk about arrogant the Astro players are very arrogant. Like I already said I am not saying the dodger would have one but we will never know cause the Astros felt they had to cheat to win so what does that say about them. They felt the dodger were that much better than them that they needed to cheat?
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@byrdman-10 said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
No one is Houston is happy with what happened but there is no way to know who would have won.. Love your comment that the Dodgers got screwed out of another ring, see a pattern here?
Plus throwing as someones head is how you get back, do you condone that?
The dodgers did get screwed cause the Astros had to cheat to win, The Astros did win straight up now did they.
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@byrdman-10 said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
No one is Houston is happy with what happened but there is no way to know who would have won.. Love your comment that the Dodgers got screwed out of another ring, see a pattern here?
Plus throwing as someones head is how you get back, do you condone that?
I am not condoning nothing, but what did baseball think was going to happen what did the players of the Astros think was going to happen, This is on the Commissioner
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@byrdman-10 said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
No one is Houston is happy with what happened but there is no way to know who would have won.. Love your comment that the Dodgers got screwed out of another ring, see a pattern here?
Plus throwing as someones head is how you get back, do you condone that?
I have not seen or heard one Astro fan come out and say we do not deserve that championship cause we cheated. Astro fans are saying it is wrong but turn around and defend it and start like you did the dodger lost at home which has nothing to do with the Astros cheating which black mark the 2017 WS.
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Think everyone expected it, but if I am a player I will not tolerate having someone throwing at me and risking my career. Agree MLB did not handle it well. Are you really that naive to think the Astros were the only ones? They got caught..
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@byrdman-10 said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
Think everyone expected it, but if I am a player I will not tolerate having someone throwing at me and risking my career. Agree MLB did not handle it well. Are you really that naive to think the Astros were the only ones? They got caught..
Yeah dodgers were cheating that is why they hit so well in that series, You have no proof of all the teams cheating. Stick to the fact of what we have. Stop already with everyone is doing it so it makes it ok. They got caught the players should have been suspended and the WS championship should have been voided.
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@dbarmonstar said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@byrdman-10 said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
No one is Houston is happy with what happened but there is no way to know who would have won.. Love your comment that the Dodgers got screwed out of another ring, see a pattern here?
Plus throwing as someones head is how you get back, do you condone that?
I am not condoning nothing, but what did baseball think was going to happen what did the players of the Astros think was going to happen, This is on the Commissioner
Even though I very much dislike Jomboy media and his childish ways, he probably said it best when he said he though Correa and Bregman handled it great. Yes because they knew they would have to deal with pitches coming out at them, both Correa and Bregman did nothing when Kelly threw at them. They handled as they should, just as they suspected it would happen. Nothing got fired up until Kelly told Correa "nice swing B^^^h." And made that face. If there was nothing but great history between 2 teams that alone will cause a stir. This had nothing to do with Dodgers Astros 2017. This was Joe Kelly being himself.
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@ChuckCLC said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@dbarmonstar said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@byrdman-10 said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
No one is Houston is happy with what happened but there is no way to know who would have won.. Love your comment that the Dodgers got screwed out of another ring, see a pattern here?
Plus throwing as someones head is how you get back, do you condone that?
I am not condoning nothing, but what did baseball think was going to happen what did the players of the Astros think was going to happen, This is on the Commissioner
Even though I very much dislike Jomboy media and his childish ways, he probably said it best when he said he though Correa and Bregman handled it great. Yes because they knew they would have to deal with pitches coming out them, both Correa and Bregman did nothing when Kelly threw at them. They handled as they should, just as they suspected it would happen. Nothing got fired up until Kelly told Correa "nice swing B^^^h." And made that face. If there was nothing but great history between 2 teams that alone will cause a stir.
Personally I did not think they should be throwing at them in the way the game has changed not worth the suspension, that is old school baseball I can tell you that.
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@ChuckCLC said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@dbarmonstar said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@byrdman-10 said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
No one is Houston is happy with what happened but there is no way to know who would have won.. Love your comment that the Dodgers got screwed out of another ring, see a pattern here?
Plus throwing as someones head is how you get back, do you condone that?
I am not condoning nothing, but what did baseball think was going to happen what did the players of the Astros think was going to happen, This is on the Commissioner
Even though I very much dislike Jomboy media and his childish ways, he probably said it best when he said he though Correa and Bregman handled it great. Yes because they knew they would have to deal with pitches coming out at them, both Correa and Bregman did nothing when Kelly threw at them. They handled as they should, just as they suspected it would happen. Nothing got fired up until Kelly told Correa "nice swing B^^^h." And made that face. If there was nothing but great history between 2 teams that alone will cause a stir. This had nothing to do with Dodgers Astros 2017. This was Joe Kelly being himself.
Do you think the Astros deserve the 2017 championship. Correa interview when all this came made himself look bad saying they still earned the championship. that is the problem the players have no remorse or even think what they did was wrong. They are only sorry cause they got caught
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@dbarmonstar said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@ChuckCLC said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@dbarmonstar said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@byrdman-10 said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
No one is Houston is happy with what happened but there is no way to know who would have won.. Love your comment that the Dodgers got screwed out of another ring, see a pattern here?
Plus throwing as someones head is how you get back, do you condone that?
I am not condoning nothing, but what did baseball think was going to happen what did the players of the Astros think was going to happen, This is on the Commissioner
Even though I very much dislike Jomboy media and his childish ways, he probably said it best when he said he though Correa and Bregman handled it great. Yes because they knew they would have to deal with pitches coming out at them, both Correa and Bregman did nothing when Kelly threw at them. They handled as they should, just as they suspected it would happen. Nothing got fired up until Kelly told Correa "nice swing B^^^h." And made that face. If there was nothing but great history between 2 teams that alone will cause a stir. This had nothing to do with Dodgers Astros 2017. This was Joe Kelly being himself.
Do you think the Astros deserve the 2017 championship. Correa interview when all this came made himself look bad saying they still earned the championship. that is the problem the players have no remorse or even think what they did was wrong.
It just doesnt matter. It was already celebrated and there is no way of knowing what would have changed. Plus there was that whole game 7 in LA where the Dodgers laid an egg. So IDK. Also there is no breakdown on when the Astros actually used the electronics in that series. So it really becomes kinda hard to decide anything. But in the end, it doesnt matter. Taking it from them does nothing to them or even the fans. It all already happened and was celebrated. Thats like your parents taking away a trip to Six Flags when you were younger. Ok, fine, take it away, but it already happened lol.
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Everyone knows they cheated. The way that pitcher played was BS and he should be fined for it. He could of seriously hurt someone
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@ChuckCLC said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@dbarmonstar said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@ChuckCLC said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@dbarmonstar said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
@byrdman-10 said in LOL Dodgers & Astros.:
No one is Houston is happy with what happened but there is no way to know who would have won.. Love your comment that the Dodgers got screwed out of another ring, see a pattern here?
Plus throwing as someones head is how you get back, do you condone that?
I am not condoning nothing, but what did baseball think was going to happen what did the players of the Astros think was going to happen, This is on the Commissioner
Even though I very much dislike Jomboy media and his childish ways, he probably said it best when he said he though Correa and Bregman handled it great. Yes because they knew they would have to deal with pitches coming out at them, both Correa and Bregman did nothing when Kelly threw at them. They handled as they should, just as they suspected it would happen. Nothing got fired up until Kelly told Correa "nice swing B^^^h." And made that face. If there was nothing but great history between 2 teams that alone will cause a stir. This had nothing to do with Dodgers Astros 2017. This was Joe Kelly being himself.
Do you think the Astros deserve the 2017 championship. Correa interview when all this came made himself look bad saying they still earned the championship. that is the problem the players have no remorse or even think what they did was wrong.
It just doesnt matter. It was already celebrated and there is no way of knowing what would have changed. Plus there was that whole game 7 in LA where the Dodgers laid an egg. So IDK. Also there is no breakdown on when the Astros actually used the electronics in that series. So it really becomes kinda hard to decide anything. But in the end, it doesnt matter. Taking it from them does nothing to them or even the fans. It all already happened and was celebrated. Thats like your parents taking away a trip to Six Flags when you were younger. Ok, fine, take it away, but it already happened lol.
I will agree we will never know, I disagree it does matter in the records books and for the fans. Yeah it was celebrated but not earned or deserved. The memory of them winning yes but cheating to do it. That game against Darvish i am pretty sure they knew everything that was comeing. You void out that WS the Astros have 0 championship by records. Now it goes down in the books as the Astros did not cheat to win, in the books it will Astros won the series 4-3 for there first title. The saddest part is that we will never know.
