Andruw Jones is the Last SS
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@buttmuncher150 said in Andrew Jones is the Last SS:
Even tho I really don’t like Mookie. I wanted his cards. But if you think about it. 99 Jones is probably close to what 99 Mookie would be right?
This is very true!
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@buttmuncher150 said in Andrew Jones is the Last SS:
Even tho I really don’t like Mookie. I wanted his cards. But if you think about it. 99 Jones is probably close to what 99 Mookie would be right?
Not really. Jones has more range and power. Mookie has better contact, vision, clutch and arm
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@buttmuncher150 said in Andrew Jones is the Last SS:
Even tho I really don’t like Mookie. I wanted his cards. But if you think about it. 99 Jones is probably close to what 99 Mookie would be right?
Betts would’ve had higher vision, but should have less power.
Overall yeah they’d probably be very similar.
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@Maverick31762 said in Andrew Jones is the Last SS:
@buttmuncher150 said in Andrew Jones is the Last SS:
Even tho I really don’t like Mookie. I wanted his cards. But if you think about it. 99 Jones is probably close to what 99 Mookie would be right?
Not really. Jones has more range and power. Mookie has better contact, vision, clutch and arm
Yes more contact for sure for Mookie. Vs righty should be up at 110-120. But Mookie LS cards is already like maxed out d almost right?
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I would like to say that we've been completely spoiled by SDS and the content in this year's game. This Andruw Jones is actually quite good and the only reason he seems underwhelming is because content has been top notch. Personally, I was disappointed with Andruw as the final reward but that's only because there are so many other great cards to choose from. Props to SDS, it's been far and away the best year for content.
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@Maverick31762 said in Andrew Jones is the Last SS:
Joe Carter is like WTF!!!!
[https://www.sportsnet.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Joe_Carter.jpg](link url)
So Alex Gordon, Rick Ankiel, Travis Hafner, and Jason Kendall get a SS but not Joe Carter.
Serial. Why did we only get 29/30 of the pre-order bonuses in SS form? It seems like it has to be more than just a slight or an oversight. I wonder if Carter pulled his rights mid-year or something? Not sure how that could be possible. But it just seems weird to not give Carter the upgrade.
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@IIJACKINTHBOXII said in Andrew Jones is the Last SS:
@dbarmonstar said in Andrew Jones is the Last SS:
Ty Cobb, Griffey JR, Mays, No Need for this card
There wasn't exactly a need for any card at this point in the year, but I would've liked to see them end the year with a bigger bang.
If they had released a "bigger bang" today:
"WHY DID THEY WAIT UNTIL FEBRUARY TO RELEASE THIS CARD? WE SHOULD HAVE HAD IT IN AUGUST!?!"
There's literally no winning.
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@SaveFarris said in Andrew Jones is the Last SS:
@IIJACKINTHBOXII said in Andrew Jones is the Last SS:
@dbarmonstar said in Andrew Jones is the Last SS:
Ty Cobb, Griffey JR, Mays, No Need for this card
There wasn't exactly a need for any card at this point in the year, but I would've liked to see them end the year with a bigger bang.
If they had released a "bigger bang" today:
"WHY DID THEY WAIT UNTIL FEBRUARY TO RELEASE THIS CARD? WE SHOULD HAVE HAD IT IN AUGUST!?!"
There's literally no winning.
The guys at SDS have the coolest jobs in the entire world. There mostly certainly IS winning.
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@SchnauzerFace said in Andrew Jones is the Last SS:
@Maverick31762 said in Andrew Jones is the Last SS:
Joe Carter is like WTF!!!!
[https://www.sportsnet.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Joe_Carter.jpg](link url)
So Alex Gordon, Rick Ankiel, Travis Hafner, and Jason Kendall get a SS but not Joe Carter.
Serial. Why did we only get 29/30 of the pre-order bonuses in SS form? It seems like it has to be more than just a slight or an oversight. I wonder if Carter pulled his rights mid-year or something? Not sure how that could be possible. But it just seems weird to not give Carter the upgrade.
Carter wasn’t good
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in Andrew Jones is the Last SS:
@SchnauzerFace said in Andrew Jones is the Last SS:
@Maverick31762 said in Andrew Jones is the Last SS:
Joe Carter is like WTF!!!!
[https://www.sportsnet.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Joe_Carter.jpg](link url)
So Alex Gordon, Rick Ankiel, Travis Hafner, and Jason Kendall get a SS but not Joe Carter.
Serial. Why did we only get 29/30 of the pre-order bonuses in SS form? It seems like it has to be more than just a slight or an oversight. I wonder if Carter pulled his rights mid-year or something? Not sure how that could be possible. But it just seems weird to not give Carter the upgrade.
Carter wasn’t good
Hmmm seems his peers disagree given the all Star games he made. I think you might have to at least be good to be a 5 x all Star.You can say he was flawed or wasn’t an all time great or that he isn’t HOF worthy, but to say he isn’t good.....well says more about you than him imo
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@SchnauzerFace said in Andrew Jones is the Last SS:
@Maverick31762 said in Andrew Jones is the Last SS:
Joe Carter is like WTF!!!!
[https://www.sportsnet.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Joe_Carter.jpg](link url)
So Alex Gordon, Rick Ankiel, Travis Hafner, and Jason Kendall get a SS but not Joe Carter.
Serial. Why did we only get 29/30 of the pre-order bonuses in SS form? It seems like it has to be more than just a slight or an oversight. I wonder if Carter pulled his rights mid-year or something? Not sure how that could be possible. But it just seems weird to not give Carter the upgrade.
Finally somebody gets it. It’s odd he is the only one from the group. It’s not even about how good he was and yes he was very good. It is sort of an undeserved slap in the face to him.
The decision has NOTHING to do with his ability. Huff, Gordon, Ankiel, Floyd to name a few are at most marginally better or more realistically they could hold Carter’s jock
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Don Kessinger (WHO?) went to 6 All-Star games in the late 60s/early 70s because the NL's middle IF scene was a bunch of hot garbage at the time.
Joe got incredibly lucky that he played at a time when his best skill (driving in RBI) was tremendously overvalued. His career WAR doesn't even crack the Top 1200 of all time.
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Here's a list of players that have a higher career WAR than Joe Carter's 19.6:
Gio Gonzalez: 29.2
Martin Prado: 28.1
Randy Winn: 27.6
Michael Brantley: 27.2
Yunel Escobar: 27
Alex Bregman: 20.8 -
@SaveFarris said in Andrew Jones is the Last SS:
Don Kessinger (WHO?) went to 6 All-Star games in the late 60s/early 70s because the NL's middle IF scene was a bunch of hot garbage at the time.
Joe got incredibly lucky that he played at a time when his best skill (driving in RBI) was tremendously overvalued. His career WAR doesn't even crack the Top 1200 of all time.
Spread the truth brother, we must unbrainwash the masses.
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This dude was my idol growing up, so Mays will be sliding over to right. They did some justice on his fielding and reaction. I'm surprised his vision is a 93. I'm sure discipline will be in the low 30's.
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@SaveFarris said in Andrew Jones is the Last SS:
Here's a list of players that have a higher career WAR than Joe Carter's 19.6:
Gio Gonzalez: 29.2
Martin Prado: 28.1
Randy Winn: 27.6
Michael Brantley: 27.2
Yunel Escobar: 27
Alex Bregman: 20.8Thats cool. You do realize WAR isn't the end all be all stat. Joe Carter is a great example of this. Go look at his 1992 season. His WAR would suggest that he would ONLY be 2 games better than any old minor leaguer. Sports writers thought he was 3rd in MVP voting. Not saying sports writers get it right all the time...but they have the ability to use basic common sense.
That is not even the issue though.
Now list of the original 30 legends that didn't get a SS. -
Loved the 91 Andruw Jones from the beginning and really wish this card would have been release a few months ago but it is what it is
Can’t complain when you’re still getting content for a game that most will move on from in less than 2 months
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@Maverick31762 said in Andrew Jones is the Last SS:
@SaveFarris said in Andrew Jones is the Last SS:
Here's a list of players that have a higher career WAR than Joe Carter's 19.6:
Gio Gonzalez: 29.2
Martin Prado: 28.1
Randy Winn: 27.6
Michael Brantley: 27.2
Yunel Escobar: 27
Alex Bregman: 20.8Thats cool. You do realize WAR isn't the end all be all stat.
I mean, it's close.
Joe Carter is a great example of this. Go look at his 1992 season.
.264/.309/.498
We had someone this year with an almost identical slash line (.269/.320/.511) and yet he didn't receive a single MVP vote.
https://www.mlb.com/player/eduardo-escobar-500871
Joe had a couple of okay years and one all-time classic moment. That does not a Signature make.
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@SaveFarris said in Andrew Jones is the Last SS:
@Maverick31762 said in Andrew Jones is the Last SS:
@SaveFarris said in Andrew Jones is the Last SS:
Here's a list of players that have a higher career WAR than Joe Carter's 19.6:
Gio Gonzalez: 29.2
Martin Prado: 28.1
Randy Winn: 27.6
Michael Brantley: 27.2
Yunel Escobar: 27
Alex Bregman: 20.8Thats cool. You do realize WAR isn't the end all be all stat.
I mean, it's close.
Joe Carter is a great example of this. Go look at his 1992 season.
.264/.309/.498
We had someone this year with an almost identical slash line (.269/.320/.511) and yet he didn't receive a single MVP vote.
https://www.mlb.com/player/eduardo-escobar-500871
Joe had a couple of okay years and one all-time classic moment. That does not a Signature make.
1000% agree with this. Not to mention going off his other card.
His SS would literally be:
CON R: 67
Con L: 92
Pwr R: 74
Pwr L: 106 (which is comical that is the pwr on his PS card)
Vision: 85
Fielding: 64
Arm Str: 70
Arm Acc: 70
Reaction: 62
Speed: 72
Stealing: 55
BRunning: 40The card would be about a 90 overall.
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Pissers and Moaners that is all this thread is. The most unappreciative community i have seen.
From a group of developers that always go out of their way to give you guys what you want 99% of the time if it is within their power!
1)Community- "We would like to see better rewards for higher tier gameplay." Andruw Jones HOF diff Event Reward- CHECK
2)Community- "We would like to have more sellable rewards!" - CHECK
- Community- "w e want more diversity in lineups!" Check
That is to just name a few!
I am so sick of reading posts from you little crybabies that think you are entitled to everything! SDS developers only have to do 1 thing and that is make a game every year and sell it. All these programs, events , moments, Free rewards for ALL STAR break, The free SS cards in XP program, Free moments cards etc.....
And you guys have the gaul to whine about a Diamond card they are basically giving you for just playing a game that you "supposedly love." Gimme a break and Grow up!
