Remove Directional already....
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@CalisGW said in Remove Directional already....:
Zone > Directional is the popular belief. So why are you upset that someone is playing with the inferior option?
Because it just exploits the AI false animation that much more. Typically, if you just lay pitches on the edge of the box they don't get hit real hard. When you lay them slightly outside the box they don't generally get hit period.
So, in order for SDS to keep with their philosophy of guaranteeing everyone wins (even the directionals) they have to cheat the animation. Most common is to take a pitch you know you lined up perfectly on the edge or, often, outside the box. Unhittable in real life...SO, the AI puts that pitch right down the gut of the plate. Directional player get that homerun that wins the game. Often, that single HR the AI manufactures might be the only hit they get.
That's why I could see a good reason to get rid of directional. The semi-obvious AI liberties taken to guarantee parity...become way-obvious.
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@FranklinSabers16 said in Remove Directional already....:
You don’t even know if they are using directional too, you’re most likely bad and can’t locate pitchers or mix it up lmao
You can tell who is using directional and who isn’t based on the results of certain types of contact. For instance if you pitch low in the zone a directional hitter will beat groundball after groundball after groundball. If you pound low in The strike zone the hitter will almost certainly be unable to hit homers. Some liners but no homers. Most players who rely on that swing mode will refuse to offer at anything low in the zone without 2 strikes on them. I welcome these guys as it will be a very short game.
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@eatyum said in Remove Directional already....:
@AftershockFx said in Remove Directional already....:
Directional is trash. Supposedly, SDS said that using directional removed perfect/perfect from that input which is a lie. Realistically it should not be in online play at all. Especially when AS randomly teleports balls into the strike zone even with the correct input ...
Ramone said that in live stream, but was quickly corrected by another SDS employee that directional can achieve that, so no, SDS doesn't claim that.
I wouldn't be surprised if an SDS employee recanted something Ramone said, wouldn't be the first time. In all honesty directional should not allow perfect timing under any circumstances.
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Guys that have very low averages, with high hr totals/low rbi totals are often Directional hitters. They strike out religiously because they swing at everything low in the zone. Most of the time you can K them nonstop, but when the game pulls your pitch up they are gifted a hr. You shouldn't have a hitting setup that rewards bad plate discipline
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@BobDafer said in Remove Directional already....:
@bhall09 said in Remove Directional already....:
"The game should only cater to the way I want to play it."
Actually, no. No one said that. But thanks for playing
"Just remove it from online. For the love of all that is holy."
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@AftershockFx said in Remove Directional already....:
I'm fine with directional being allowed in offline modes only but, it should be eliminated from what SDS is calling competitive online play.
As @CalisGW stated previously, in fairness to those who may have a physical impairment that prohibits the more manually intensive hitting options being accessible, removing directional from online play is not just. However, the game could avoid mixing players of dissimilar input modes.
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@Red_Ted_is_back said in Remove Directional already....:
@AftershockFx said in Remove Directional already....:
I'm fine with directional being allowed in offline modes only but, it should be eliminated from what SDS is calling competitive online play.
As @CalisGW stated previously, in fairness to those who may have a physical impairment that prohibits the more manually intensive hitting options being accessible, removing directional from online play is not just. However, the game could avoid mixing players of dissimilar input modes.
Maybe so but, they could literally stop rewarding directional hitters with solid contact on balls below the zone simply because they hold up and hit square.
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If directional hitting was advantageous as people make it out to be, I’d definitely use it.
Until then, I’ll continue to use zone and couldn’t care less if my opponent uses directional.
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I use zone as well, however; it's no secret that the combination of All-Star pitches being sucked into the zone or to a meatball benefits directional hitters way more than it should. Directional should not be in any mode that is considered competitive. Ideally SDS, would address pitching and make that input actually matter but, they wont.
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I've found it helpful for some moments, or perhaps I really haven't but got lucky when I mixed it up after getting frustrated. That's the argument for directional as far as I'm concerned, but I don't really see any harm that would require arguments.
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I'm with OP, I think zone hitting should be enforced in every online game mode. How you play offline, that's your business. But online the playing field should be equal to everyone. I can spew out a hundred arguments why I think this needs to happen, but I'm not interested in having that debate again. Especially after reading through this thread. Just know that OP is not alone in his opinion, although I wish he included Analog hitting along with Directional hitting in the title; anything that's not zone hitting.
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PCI hitters have a great advantage. I am not sure what the complaint is.
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I think a lot of you guys would be surprised by the results you could get with directional if you were very selective.
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@raesONE said in Remove Directional already....:
I'm with OP, I think zone hitting should be enforced in every online game mode. How you play offline, that's your business. But online the playing field should be equal to everyone. I can spew out a hundred arguments why I think this needs to happen, but I'm not interested in having that debate again. Especially after reading through this thread. Just know that OP is not alone in his opinion, although I wish he included Analog hitting along with Directional hitting in the title; anything that's not zone hitting.
Fine, then if you do this then it needs to be zone with analog stride input. No button input which is just a step above directional.
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@notoriousHEB said in Remove Directional already....:
@raesONE said in Remove Directional already....:
I'm with OP, I think zone hitting should be enforced in every online game mode. How you play offline, that's your business. But online the playing field should be equal to everyone. I can spew out a hundred arguments why I think this needs to happen, but I'm not interested in having that debate again. Especially after reading through this thread. Just know that OP is not alone in his opinion, although I wish he included Analog hitting along with Directional hitting in the title; anything that's not zone hitting.
Fine, then if you do this then it needs to be zone with analog stride input. No button input which is just a step above directional.
I like zone with analog stride I can't play the game no other way.
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If someone is taking to many pitches it's a red flag to me then i'll confirm my suspicion by throwing curveballs which they generally swing for a lot and i'll rinse repeat with a high fastball out of the zone.
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Wow, people these days just want to be selfish and not adapt.
You get use to pitching for a certain way ( zone hitters ). You know what you can’t pitch to and what you can. In comes directional and changes that. Forces you to adapt and you get pissy!
Ever thought to consider that just maybe it’s more like baseball than you thought. No team is the same. Take twins for example last year. They hit the most homers as a team. Do you think that stating pitchers didn’t try to change their approach to how they pitched to that team ?
Same can be said about a pitcher. Teams choke up on the bat and react differently when the starting pitcher of the day is a 100 mph thrower. Conversely they change they aporoach when it’s a knuckleball pitcher. R.A. Dickey won Cy Young due to this.
People complaining about directional lack the ability or the effort to adapt to directional batting which is the inferior style. Too much effort to actually have to think and pitch differently.
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