I really hate online play.
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@Red_Ted_is_back said in I really hate online play.:
@D_e_m_I_s_E said in I really hate online play.:
@joshdcarr25 said in I really hate online play.:
I hate ranked seasons because of this. It feels like whoever has the weaker lineup gets the favored outcome. I played someone recently that had a losing record and .231 average. My average in ranked is .301. I had 16 dead or near dead center good/okays for outs and lost the game. I usually can tell early if I am going to lose when I start getting an obsessive amount of good/okay and my pitches float down the middle despite perfect input. It sucks because online play is my favorite but it's ruining it for me.
There are a ton of tell tale signs that show you will probably lose the game. If they don't exist, it is usually a very early quit for my opponent. If they are, I am either going to lose or it will be a dog fight.
Jumpy pci when hitting
Good/good+ rarely results in hits
Throw either down the middle or ball - jumpy pci when pitching
Opponents get hits on everything
Strikes on corners
Fielding blunders (quite a few different ones)
Base stealers get very poor jumps
Extra long or very slow returns when rounding a basePretty sure there are a few I am forgetting but when you see these signs it is best to cut bait and quit or you will get get frustrated and it is a complete waste of time. The ONLY way to win these games (which is possible) is if your opponent swings at balls outside the zone or can't hit pitches down the middle. Based on these, I can usually tell within the first 3 innings whether I am going to win. Game is extremely predictable if you pay attention to the signs.
Whilst I can’t argue against your summation I just wonder if the opponent is getting similar signs and if both players ever feel like they will lose the same game.
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@nymets1987 said in I really hate online play.:
I have enjoyed it somewhat more since I have gotten better at the game but there are some opponents who ruin it for me
Opponents dont ruin it. RNG ruin it. I’m okay losing to someone who outplays me. Tip my hat to them. But losing when even your opponent text you telling that his swings were awful and he apologizes. That shouldn’t happen.
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@joshdcarr25 said in I really hate online play.:
I hate ranked seasons because of this. It feels like whoever has the weaker lineup gets the favored outcome. I played someone recently that had a losing record and .231 average. My average in ranked is .301. I had 16 dead or near dead center good/okays for outs and lost the game. I usually can tell early if I am going to lose when I start getting an obsessive amount of good/okay and my pitches float down the middle despite perfect input. It sucks because online play is my favorite but it's ruining it for me.
I can’t begin to explain how mad I get when throw a good timing pitch that should be low and inside 2 feet outside when I clearly did not give it the input to throw 2 feet outside with bad timing.
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@D_e_m_I_s_E said in I really hate online play.:
@joshdcarr25 said in I really hate online play.:
I hate ranked seasons because of this. It feels like whoever has the weaker lineup gets the favored outcome. I played someone recently that had a losing record and .231 average. My average in ranked is .301. I had 16 dead or near dead center good/okays for outs and lost the game. I usually can tell early if I am going to lose when I start getting an obsessive amount of good/okay and my pitches float down the middle despite perfect input. It sucks because online play is my favorite but it's ruining it for me.
There are a ton of tell tale signs that show you will probably lose the game. If they don't exist, it is usually a very early quit for my opponent. If they are, I am either going to lose or it will be a dog fight.
Jumpy pci when hitting
Good/good+ rarely results in hits
Throw either down the middle or ball - jumpy pci when pitching
Opponents get hits on everything
Strikes on corners
Fielding blunders (quite a few different ones)
Base stealers get very poor jumps
Extra long or very slow returns when rounding a basePretty sure there are a few I am forgetting but when you see these signs it is best to cut bait and quit or you will get get frustrated and it is a complete waste of time. The ONLY way to win these games (which is possible) is if your opponent swings at balls outside the zone or can't hit pitches down the middle. Based on these, I can usually tell within the first 3 innings whether I am going to win. Game is extremely predictable if you pay attention to the signs.
Couldn’t agree more. You forgot the check swings. The game prevents your opponent from striking out by fouling pitches on terrible timing or bad pci work and also by check singing a lot. Usually the game buys time until you hang something and boom! Tomahawk.
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I would love to see a Ranked Seasons-type mode with 3-inning games, where you use your team. My main issue is I cannot always guarantee I can be on the couch for a 45-minute game watching my opponent click in and out of the pause screen two dozen times..
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@Serafim42-zaphod said in I really hate online play.:
I would love to see a Ranked Seasons-type mode with 3-inning games, where you use your team. My main issue is I cannot always guarantee I can be on the couch for a 45-minute game watching my opponent click in and out of the pause screen two dozen times..
I feel you. I can’t be on the couch for 45 minutes watching my opponent’s bad input get rewarded.
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What is wrong with conquest? It is really rewarding and relaxing in my opinion!
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@Serafim42-zaphod said in I really hate online play.:
I would love to see a Ranked Seasons-type mode with 3-inning games, where you use your team. My main issue is I cannot always guarantee I can be on the couch for a 45-minute game watching my opponent click in and out of the pause screen two dozen times..
I had a guy do it every batter today for 30 seconds in the last inning when he was losing I assume hoping I quit.
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@D_e_m_I_s_E said in I really hate online play.:
@joshdcarr25 said in I really hate online play.:
I hate ranked seasons because of this. It feels like whoever has the weaker lineup gets the favored outcome. I played someone recently that had a losing record and .231 average. My average in ranked is .301. I had 16 dead or near dead center good/okays for outs and lost the game. I usually can tell early if I am going to lose when I start getting an obsessive amount of good/okay and my pitches float down the middle despite perfect input. It sucks because online play is my favorite but it's ruining it for me.
There are a ton of tell tale signs that show you will probably lose the game. If they don't exist, it is usually a very early quit for my opponent. If they are, I am either going to lose or it will be a dog fight.
Jumpy pci when hitting
Good/good+ rarely results in hits
Throw either down the middle or ball - jumpy pci when pitching
Opponents get hits on everything
Strikes on corners
Fielding blunders (quite a few different ones)
Base stealers get very poor jumps
Extra long or very slow returns when rounding a basePretty sure there are a few I am forgetting but when you see these signs it is best to cut bait and quit or you will get get frustrated and it is a complete waste of time. The ONLY way to win these games (which is possible) is if your opponent swings at balls outside the zone or can't hit pitches down the middle. Based on these, I can usually tell within the first 3 innings whether I am going to win. Game is extremely predictable if you pay attention to the signs.
Another one I noticed in '19. (Still playing) is the announcer will say something random. He will announce the play in real time. Catch is made and when he is throwing it in..matty v will say something like " oh and he cant get to it "...then the hitting feedback will be good/good
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I've also noticed
- successfully calling pick out for catcher to drop on transfer...or dropped at second
- opponent making baserunning mistake and fielder hesitating to make throw
- the 30" vertical crow hop from OF to give baserunner that extra step
- opponent fouling off balls off the feedback screen
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@TeamPotro said in I really hate online play.:
@nymets1987 said in I really hate online play.:
I have enjoyed it somewhat more since I have gotten better at the game but there are some opponents who ruin it for me
Opponents dont ruin it. RNG ruin it. I’m okay losing to someone who outplays me. Tip my hat to them. But losing when even your opponent text you telling that his swings were awful and he apologizes. That shouldn’t happen.
What's even worse is when your opponent knows he is outmatched but he wont quit because rng is keeping it close and he is only 3 outs from the 6th inning starting and things starting to go his way
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Amazingly, really good players do not have the problem of a weaker opponent beating them. Hmmmm.
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@olivegarden2 said in I really hate online play.:
What is wrong with conquest? It is really rewarding and relaxing in my opinion!
i agree with you its mad chill vibes when you don't have a lot of time to play
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@Vipersneak said in I really hate online play.:
Amazingly, really good players do not have the problem of a weaker opponent beating them. Hmmmm.
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@TeamPotro said in I really hate online play.:
@Vipersneak said in I really hate online play.:
Amazingly, really good players do not have the problem of a weaker opponent beating them. Hmmmm.
Well their records are insanely good. So if you are losing to weaker players more than winning, then you just are not as good as you think.
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@John3221 said in I really hate online play.:
Sometimes I feel I'm playing on HOF and my opponent playing on all star they be hitting everything and alot of my pitches go straight down the middle.
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@D_e_m_I_s_E said in I really hate online play.:
Pretty sure there are a few I am forgetting
Double-plays every time you get a guy on 1st. This is regardless where you make contact. In real MLB you hit the ball on top it typically results in a grounder. Hitting the bottom sends the ball up. There is absolutely no way, when AI decides it's DP time, to prevent it. Sometimes a strike-out is actually better.
Pitches you know you throw on the corner or outside with a perfect pitch just randomly drop right into the middle of the plate. Believe this happens mainly to help the directional batters out.
Any steal attempt, regardless of the lead, catcher, speed of the runner, results in a caught-stealing.
Deep fly balls that absolutely look like they are dropping, don't and anyone you have on base running get thrown out.
Speaking of runners on base. The most convoluted and happens WAY to often is when you have a couple guys on...you hit one deep..because of the very situation I mentioned in the last sentence you wait to see if it drops. When it does, you then start the runners...invariably they start running past each other on the bases ending in double and even triple plays.
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@Vipersneak said in I really hate online play.:
@TeamPotro said in I really hate online play.:
@Vipersneak said in I really hate online play.:
Amazingly, really good players do not have the problem of a weaker opponent beating them. Hmmmm.
Well their records are insanely good. So if you are losing to weaker players more than winning, then you just are not as good as you think.
All that we are discussing here happens to top players as well. Difference is, in my case even tho I have a winning record I’m not elite. So in order to compete I need the game to play fair. I can’t compete if my opponent’s bad input gets rewarded And my good input doesn’t. I can’t compete if the game forces my good releases to be down the middle.
Elite players can overcome that because they hit wayyyy above average. Go check the top players ERAs. You’ll be surprised.
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@TeamPotro said in I really hate online play.:
Well their records are insanely good. So if you are losing to weaker players more than winning, then you just are not as good as you think.
Absolutely false. You aren't playing against bad/good players..you're playing against the AI and whatever their randomized algorithm decides is supposed to win/lose.
If a player is dreadfully bad...just swings at anything..the AI will still do anything realistically (and obviously very unrealistically) to assure the dreadfully bad player wins anyway.
How..just redirects your pitches on the outside to go right down the middle. Even the terrible using directional will put the hammer on those pitches. How else...whatever pitches the dreadfully bad throws will be so unbelievably elusive..it's near impossible to catch them. Or, the other more common...pitches you time and again square up on are just reflected in the animation as rolled-over, pop-up, double-play, OUTS in general. It's all smoke and mirrors when the animation kicks in. You can't put any stock in anything. Especially the pitch/swing placements.
Insanely good? Is anyone, or is that a concocted hierarchy that SDS created so people like you say "well, that guy is always 800", or "There records are insanely good". I'm here to tell you, if the AI wants the other guy to win...they will. Regardless of "insanely good" or "insanely bad".
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@TeamPotro said in I really hate online play.:
@D_e_m_I_s_E said in I really hate online play.:
@joshdcarr25 said in I really hate online play.:
I hate ranked seasons because of this. It feels like whoever has the weaker lineup gets the favored outcome. I played someone recently that had a losing record and .231 average. My average in ranked is .301. I had 16 dead or near dead center good/okays for outs and lost the game. I usually can tell early if I am going to lose when I start getting an obsessive amount of good/okay and my pitches float down the middle despite perfect input. It sucks because online play is my favorite but it's ruining it for me.
There are a ton of tell tale signs that show you will probably lose the game. If they don't exist, it is usually a very early quit for my opponent. If they are, I am either going to lose or it will be a dog fight.
Jumpy pci when hitting
Good/good+ rarely results in hits
Throw either down the middle or ball - jumpy pci when pitching
Opponents get hits on everything
Strikes on corners
Fielding blunders (quite a few different ones)
Base stealers get very poor jumps
Extra long or very slow returns when rounding a basePretty sure there are a few I am forgetting but when you see these signs it is best to cut bait and quit or you will get get frustrated and it is a complete waste of time. The ONLY way to win these games (which is possible) is if your opponent swings at balls outside the zone or can't hit pitches down the middle. Based on these, I can usually tell within the first 3 innings whether I am going to win. Game is extremely predictable if you pay attention to the signs.
Couldn’t agree more. You forgot the check swings. The game prevents your opponent from striking out by fouling pitches on terrible timing or bad pci work and also by check singing a lot. Usually the game buys time until you hang something and boom! Tomahawk.
This could be the single biggest flaw in the game. Perfect release pitches not hitting their spots and locating pitches in general is hugely imperfect, but the check swings really add insult to injury.
You can fool a guy over and over and they just keep calling no swing. It’s really an embarrassment for the game.
If players are not able to recognize pitches, they should not be bailed out over and over.
