Torre just confirmed
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@the_dragon1912 said in Torre just confirmed:
@bhall09 said in Torre just confirmed:
Johnny Damon has 408 steals
He has 2 all star appearances bringing the total to 17 instead of 16 though. Would rather have Damon than ellsbury no doubt
Ah. That’s right. Forgot that part
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@bhall09 said in Torre just confirmed:
Johnny Damon has 408 steals
You are right my bad was looking at the wrong column
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Can't wait for his "Hit XX Doubles" mission.
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I'm torn on this one, had planned on taking Felix, assuming he is one of the three, but I really need a C. And I don't have a lot of options when it comes to Braves players this year, nice to see one drop.
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Damon doesn't have a Gold Glove. Going with Ellsburry
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Remember these guys will prestige up also , so all should be 99’s
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There is no way that Torre should ever be a 98 OVR.
He was a good to very good player, his three year run from 69 to 71 was impressive.
I am of the belief that cards 97 and up are for the best of the best, Hall of Fame level talent.I know this is a video game, but SDS should not pick and choose when to apply reality and when to sprinkle fairy dust on a card to boost it's ratings.
I know we have prospects and future stars and I do not like thier high ratings, but those cards are what if's and what is sports talk other than never ending what if's?
Torre's career is done, there is no what if. His numbers, his accolades and bold print stats are there..no way should he be a 98.
Give him a 94 OVR for his MVP year in 71, but that should be the top rating for him. -
@ItsaCanesthing said in Torre just confirmed:
There is no way that Torre should ever be a 98 OVR.
He was a good to very good player, his three year run from 69 to 71 was impressive.
I am of the belief that cards 97 and up are for the best of the best, Hall of Fame level talent.I know this is a video game, but SDS should not pick and choose when to apply reality and when to sprinkle fairy dust on a card to boost it's ratings.
I know we have prospects and future stars and I do not like thier high ratings, but those cards are what if's and what is sports talk other than never ending what if's?
Torre's career is done, there is no what if. His numbers, his accolades and bold print stats are there..no way should he be a 98.
Give him a 94 OVR for his MVP year in 71, but that should be the top rating for him.He won MVP in 71, batting .363 while leading the league in hits and RBI...
That sounds like a 98 to me...
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@GCRBI5 said in Torre just confirmed:
@ItsaCanesthing said in Torre just confirmed:
There is no way that Torre should ever be a 98 OVR.
He was a good to very good player, his three year run from 69 to 71 was impressive.
I am of the belief that cards 97 and up are for the best of the best, Hall of Fame level talent.I know this is a video game, but SDS should not pick and choose when to apply reality and when to sprinkle fairy dust on a card to boost it's ratings.
I know we have prospects and future stars and I do not like thier high ratings, but those cards are what if's and what is sports talk other than never ending what if's?
Torre's career is done, there is no what if. His numbers, his accolades and bold print stats are there..no way should he be a 98.
Give him a 94 OVR for his MVP year in 71, but that should be the top rating for him.He won MVP in 71, batting .363 while leading the league in hits and RBI...
That sounds like a 98 to me...
6.9 fWAR is not worthy of a 98.
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in Torre just confirmed:
@GCRBI5 said in Torre just confirmed:
@ItsaCanesthing said in Torre just confirmed:
There is no way that Torre should ever be a 98 OVR.
He was a good to very good player, his three year run from 69 to 71 was impressive.
I am of the belief that cards 97 and up are for the best of the best, Hall of Fame level talent.I know this is a video game, but SDS should not pick and choose when to apply reality and when to sprinkle fairy dust on a card to boost it's ratings.
I know we have prospects and future stars and I do not like thier high ratings, but those cards are what if's and what is sports talk other than never ending what if's?
Torre's career is done, there is no what if. His numbers, his accolades and bold print stats are there..no way should he be a 98.
Give him a 94 OVR for his MVP year in 71, but that should be the top rating for him.He won MVP in 71, batting .363 while leading the league in hits and RBI...
That sounds like a 98 to me...
6.9 fWAR is not worthy of a 98.
a 171 OPS+ is 5 points lower than Mike trouts career OPS+, is Mike trout not a 99 overall SS card?
EDIT: a 171 OPS+ was 3rd in the NL behind Stargell and Aaron, would have been 2nd in the AL.
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in Torre just confirmed:
@GCRBI5 said in Torre just confirmed:
@ItsaCanesthing said in Torre just confirmed:
There is no way that Torre should ever be a 98 OVR.
He was a good to very good player, his three year run from 69 to 71 was impressive.
I am of the belief that cards 97 and up are for the best of the best, Hall of Fame level talent.I know this is a video game, but SDS should not pick and choose when to apply reality and when to sprinkle fairy dust on a card to boost it's ratings.
I know we have prospects and future stars and I do not like thier high ratings, but those cards are what if's and what is sports talk other than never ending what if's?
Torre's career is done, there is no what if. His numbers, his accolades and bold print stats are there..no way should he be a 98.
Give him a 94 OVR for his MVP year in 71, but that should be the top rating for him.He won MVP in 71, batting .363 while leading the league in hits and RBI...
That sounds like a 98 to me...
6.9 fWAR is not worthy of a 98.
Speaking of War what is the FS and FOTF war that they deserve those 90 ratings?
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@GCRBI5 said in Torre just confirmed:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in Torre just confirmed:
@GCRBI5 said in Torre just confirmed:
@ItsaCanesthing said in Torre just confirmed:
There is no way that Torre should ever be a 98 OVR.
He was a good to very good player, his three year run from 69 to 71 was impressive.
I am of the belief that cards 97 and up are for the best of the best, Hall of Fame level talent.I know this is a video game, but SDS should not pick and choose when to apply reality and when to sprinkle fairy dust on a card to boost it's ratings.
I know we have prospects and future stars and I do not like thier high ratings, but those cards are what if's and what is sports talk other than never ending what if's?
Torre's career is done, there is no what if. His numbers, his accolades and bold print stats are there..no way should he be a 98.
Give him a 94 OVR for his MVP year in 71, but that should be the top rating for him.He won MVP in 71, batting .363 while leading the league in hits and RBI...
That sounds like a 98 to me...
6.9 fWAR is not worthy of a 98.
a 171 OPS+ is 5 points lower than Mike trouts career OPS+, is Mike trout not a 99 overall SS card?
His offense was very good. His defense, however, was very bad.
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in Torre just confirmed:
@GCRBI5 said in Torre just confirmed:
@ItsaCanesthing said in Torre just confirmed:
There is no way that Torre should ever be a 98 OVR.
He was a good to very good player, his three year run from 69 to 71 was impressive.
I am of the belief that cards 97 and up are for the best of the best, Hall of Fame level talent.I know this is a video game, but SDS should not pick and choose when to apply reality and when to sprinkle fairy dust on a card to boost it's ratings.
I know we have prospects and future stars and I do not like thier high ratings, but those cards are what if's and what is sports talk other than never ending what if's?
Torre's career is done, there is no what if. His numbers, his accolades and bold print stats are there..no way should he be a 98.
Give him a 94 OVR for his MVP year in 71, but that should be the top rating for him.He won MVP in 71, batting .363 while leading the league in hits and RBI...
That sounds like a 98 to me...
6.9 fWAR is not worthy of a 98.
It is worthy of a 98 for a catcher. You have to factor positions into overalls as well
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@the_dragon1912 said in Torre just confirmed:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in Torre just confirmed:
@GCRBI5 said in Torre just confirmed:
@ItsaCanesthing said in Torre just confirmed:
There is no way that Torre should ever be a 98 OVR.
He was a good to very good player, his three year run from 69 to 71 was impressive.
I am of the belief that cards 97 and up are for the best of the best, Hall of Fame level talent.I know this is a video game, but SDS should not pick and choose when to apply reality and when to sprinkle fairy dust on a card to boost it's ratings.
I know we have prospects and future stars and I do not like thier high ratings, but those cards are what if's and what is sports talk other than never ending what if's?
Torre's career is done, there is no what if. His numbers, his accolades and bold print stats are there..no way should he be a 98.
Give him a 94 OVR for his MVP year in 71, but that should be the top rating for him.He won MVP in 71, batting .363 while leading the league in hits and RBI...
That sounds like a 98 to me...
6.9 fWAR is not worthy of a 98.
It is worthy of a 98 for a catcher. You have to factor positions into overalls as well
Fielding and defense are pretty important for catchers, and Torre was terrible on defense.
Ratings aren’t just offense.
Edit: he actually played 3B that year, which is even worse.
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You're comparing a single-season OPS to a career OPS. Leave the goalposts where they are.
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@GCRBI5 said in Torre just confirmed:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in Torre just confirmed:
@GCRBI5 said in Torre just confirmed:
@ItsaCanesthing said in Torre just confirmed:
There is no way that Torre should ever be a 98 OVR.
He was a good to very good player, his three year run from 69 to 71 was impressive.
I am of the belief that cards 97 and up are for the best of the best, Hall of Fame level talent.I know this is a video game, but SDS should not pick and choose when to apply reality and when to sprinkle fairy dust on a card to boost it's ratings.
I know we have prospects and future stars and I do not like thier high ratings, but those cards are what if's and what is sports talk other than never ending what if's?
Torre's career is done, there is no what if. His numbers, his accolades and bold print stats are there..no way should he be a 98.
Give him a 94 OVR for his MVP year in 71, but that should be the top rating for him.He won MVP in 71, batting .363 while leading the league in hits and RBI...
That sounds like a 98 to me...
6.9 fWAR is not worthy of a 98.
a 171 OPS+ is 5 points lower than Mike trouts career OPS+, is Mike trout not a 99 overall SS card?
and his DRS was a -21.0...That is far from elite. It was atrocious.
Heck, Gary Sanchez had a -0.1 and he is a nightmare behind the plate. Can you imagine how bad -21.0 is?His WAR was 5.9 (as per Baseball Reference) that year, that was not even in the top 10 for the NL.
That is not 98 worthy.Edit: Just saw that he was a 3B in 71. -21.0 is horrible regardless of position.
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in Torre just confirmed:
@GCRBI5 said in Torre just confirmed:
@ItsaCanesthing said in Torre just confirmed:
There is no way that Torre should ever be a 98 OVR.
He was a good to very good player, his three year run from 69 to 71 was impressive.
I am of the belief that cards 97 and up are for the best of the best, Hall of Fame level talent.I know this is a video game, but SDS should not pick and choose when to apply reality and when to sprinkle fairy dust on a card to boost it's ratings.
I know we have prospects and future stars and I do not like thier high ratings, but those cards are what if's and what is sports talk other than never ending what if's?
Torre's career is done, there is no what if. His numbers, his accolades and bold print stats are there..no way should he be a 98.
Give him a 94 OVR for his MVP year in 71, but that should be the top rating for him.He won MVP in 71, batting .363 while leading the league in hits and RBI...
That sounds like a 98 to me...
6.9 fWAR is not worthy of a 98.
The whole point of these inflated overalls/stats is to give players options. We already see some generally agreed upon "best cards" that most people use so if you give boss Torre a 93 overall or something, its likely most people wont use him.
Chances are most people still wont use him, but it gives you another option if you're a Braves fan or just like Torre or whatever without being overly penalized.
No reason to look at overalls so realistically imo.
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You guys are upset that Joe Torre (a 9 time All-Star and former MVP) has a 98 overall card in a game that has a Kevin Smith card rated 90! (The Jays 23rd best prospect).
Hardly surprising or upsetting. Torre had some big years.. and some "years" actually in the bigs...
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@Nanthrax_1 said in Torre just confirmed:
You guys are upset that Joe Torre (a 9 time All-Star and former MVP) has a 98 overall card in a game that has a Kevin Smith card rated 90! (The Jays 23rd best prospect).
Hardly surprising or upsetting. Torre had some big years.. and some "years" actually in the bigs...
Two wrongs don’t make a right.
FS are bad, yes.
But Torre being a 98 is just as bad.Edit: okay, maybe not as bad. But still very wrong.
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@Khain24 said in Torre just confirmed:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in Torre just confirmed:
@GCRBI5 said in Torre just confirmed:
@ItsaCanesthing said in Torre just confirmed:
There is no way that Torre should ever be a 98 OVR.
He was a good to very good player, his three year run from 69 to 71 was impressive.
I am of the belief that cards 97 and up are for the best of the best, Hall of Fame level talent.I know this is a video game, but SDS should not pick and choose when to apply reality and when to sprinkle fairy dust on a card to boost it's ratings.
I know we have prospects and future stars and I do not like thier high ratings, but those cards are what if's and what is sports talk other than never ending what if's?
Torre's career is done, there is no what if. His numbers, his accolades and bold print stats are there..no way should he be a 98.
Give him a 94 OVR for his MVP year in 71, but that should be the top rating for him.He won MVP in 71, batting .363 while leading the league in hits and RBI...
That sounds like a 98 to me...
6.9 fWAR is not worthy of a 98.
The whole point of these inflated overalls/stats is to give players options. We already see some generally agreed upon "best cards" that most people use so if you give boss Torre a 93 overall or something, its likely most people wont use him.
Chances are most people still wont use him, but it gives you another option if you're a Braves fan or just like Torre or whatever without being overly penalized.
No reason to look at overalls so realistically imo.
I agree. And giving Torre(A HOFer) a 98 is fine compared to them going to be giving Elsbury a 97-98. Elsbury had one phenomenal season and was below average the rest of his career, and is probably the worst contract in history besides Bobby bonilla