Fluctuating pitch speeds in RS (both teams in 800s)
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@Papa_Valsalva said in Fluctuating pitch speeds in RS (both teams in 800s):
@baseballfan2446 said in Fluctuating pitch speeds in RS (both teams in 800s):
I mean, that pitch you threw with Chapman to Trout was a 94 mph sinker, and Oswalt was hitting 97-98 with his fastball. Maybe you were having a bad day or something or had faced a pitcher throwing in the low 90s in the last game. Also if you have significant input lag with your setup, are using players with low vision, or have trouble with reaction. Bottom line, take a look at yourself and your skill level before you blame the game. Maybe your opponents really were better players than you.
Cmon son. Not about that. Just really felt something was off. I very well am just sleep deprived.. I’m using a hal fb to compare with I’m not blaming the game, I have nothing to prove. I’m trying to see if there’s a legitimate issue with pitch speed variance between games on same level. Not blaming or complaining. This is research for the community. Maybe it’ll turn out I’m just sleep deprived. Hold on I’m almost finished with this side by side
Well, I'm suspecting that actual perceived pitch speeds do increase as you move up the rankings, even within a particular difficulty. For instance, it seems quite a bit harder to hit as I increase my rating in the 800s, including pitch speed, pitch break, and batter vision (I'm talking perhaps in-game slider adjustments depending on player ratings within a division). So I'm not completely refuting what you're saying, but I'd suggest you look further into the issue before suggest any foul play on anyone's behalf. But really, those pitches you showed in comparison to each other weren't actually the speed in mph. You'd need to provide larger sample size before extrapolating it to talk about a larger trend.
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Yeah the timing windows are screwy, for sure. I've had games where I couldn't catch up to Ohtani on All Star, but Newhouser on legend was like BP. Pitch speed difference has been around for years online, which leads me to believe it's connection based, but it's so much worse and so much more variable this year.
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@baseballfan2446 said in Fluctuating pitch speeds in RS (both teams in 800s):
@Papa_Valsalva said in Fluctuating pitch speeds in RS (both teams in 800s):
@baseballfan2446 said in Fluctuating pitch speeds in RS (both teams in 800s):
I mean, that pitch you threw with Chapman to Trout was a 94 mph sinker, and Oswalt was hitting 97-98 with his fastball. Maybe you were having a bad day or something or had faced a pitcher throwing in the low 90s in the last game. Also if you have significant input lag with your setup, are using players with low vision, or have trouble with reaction. Bottom line, take a look at yourself and your skill level before you blame the game. Maybe your opponents really were better players than you.
Cmon son. Not about that. Just really felt something was off. I very well am just sleep deprived.. I’m using a hal fb to compare with I’m not blaming the game, I have nothing to prove. I’m trying to see if there’s a legitimate issue with pitch speed variance between games on same level. Not blaming or complaining. This is research for the community. Maybe it’ll turn out I’m just sleep deprived. Hold on I’m almost finished with this side by side
Well, I'm suspecting that actual perceived pitch speeds do increase as you move up the rankings, even within a particular difficulty. For instance, it seems quite a bit harder to hit as I increase my rating in the 800s, including pitch speed, pitch break, and batter vision (I'm talking perhaps in-game slider adjustments depending on player ratings within a division). So I'm not completely refuting what you're saying, but I'd suggest you look further into the issue before suggest any foul play on anyone's behalf. But really, those pitches you showed in comparison to each other weren't actually the speed in mph. You'd need to provide larger sample size before extrapolating it to talk about a larger trend.
Again, I’m not calling foul play. I’m just looking to see if we can show sds some footage if it’s convincing enough. I’m working on a couple examples, the first one I just did (81 mph change up and Hals 98 mph fb... You may be surprised at the results) workin on splicing another two pitch clip so we have more of a sample size. Sorry for the delay I’m just finally getting the hang of it. Few more minutes, I gotta put one more together.
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And again I’m not looking for an excuse. I’m looking to see if there is a coding flaw or some issues with networking that sds could possibly fix and benefit everyone. This has nothing to do with looking for an excuse, you must think I’m one of the many others on this board that want to blame the game for their losses. I outhit that guy in that game, he got a few boppers and I couldn’t hit. I lost and have no hard feelings ab it. I just thought this pitch speed fluctuation should be investigated a bit more closely.
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Synchronization, that’s the problem, internet speeds difference. I have 400mbps, and I prefer to play with wifi around 100mbps, it’s more average, less sync problems.
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@DANNY_THE_SHOW said in Fluctuating pitch speeds in RS (both teams in 800s):
Synchronization, that’s the problem, internet speeds difference. I have 400mbps, and I prefer to play with wifi around 100mbps, it’s more average, less sync problems.
I’m actually curious about this. I have a 300mbps wired connection. I wonder if I would fare better if I switched to wireless and a had a little worse connection.
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Ok. I got a few examples. Seems like sleep deprivation definitely played a role but what is really intriguing is Roys change up in the one game compared to hals fb in the other. Again both games HOF RS. Small sample size and will add more if people find this needs additional data collection.
Oswalt 80 mph change and Hal 99mph fastball - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e_w4S2D_Jw (couldn't figure out how to make this loop)
Oswalt 81 mph change and Hals 98 mph FB - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uet9CztWWVI
Oswalt Hal 98 mph fb - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvYF48ygVx8 (this one... sleep deprivation)
Oswalt 96 sinker and Oswalt 81 change up - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK7ktDlcxlY -
@Papa_Valsalva said in Fluctuating pitch speeds in RS (both teams in 800s):
Can I get a second set of eyes on this? I was crushing Hal and chapman hours ago on same difficulty in seasons but this game I literally couldn't do anything. Does it look like the pitches are coming in unusually fast? I need to sleep most likely, but something seemed off.
This is definitely a known issue. That 96 MPH sinker up and in the corner of the strike zone was mesmerizing. I could barely even see it let alone hit it
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@LankyRyan said in Fluctuating pitch speeds in RS (both teams in 800s):
Yeah the timing windows are screwy, for sure. I've had games where I couldn't catch up to Ohtani on All Star, but Newhouser on legend was like BP. Pitch speed difference has been around for years online, which leads me to believe it's connection based, but it's so much worse and so much more variable this year.
Funny you say this because I don’t remember this being an issue at all last year in 19. Do you remember this at all last year?
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I'm not saying this isn't a problem btw, but perhaps pitch speed sliders are turned up as difficulty increases? It may be dynamic within a difficulty level as well. But hey, at least this year they mostly got rid of the pause after making contact with the ball (though that didn't really affect gameplay results too much).
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@mrwonderful95 said in Fluctuating pitch speeds in RS (both teams in 800s):
@LankyRyan said in Fluctuating pitch speeds in RS (both teams in 800s):
Yeah the timing windows are screwy, for sure. I've had games where I couldn't catch up to Ohtani on All Star, but Newhouser on legend was like BP. Pitch speed difference has been around for years online, which leads me to believe it's connection based, but it's so much worse and so much more variable this year.
Funny you say this because I don’t remember this being an issue at all last year in 19. Do you remember this at all last year?
Yep, as stated above, I do. Not as often or noticeable as this year, though.
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@Papa_Valsalva said in Fluctuating pitch speeds in RS (both teams in 800s):
Can I get a second set of eyes on this? I was crushing Hal and chapman hours ago on same difficulty in seasons but this game I literally couldn't do anything. Does it look like the pitches are coming in unusually fast? I need to sleep most likely, but something seemed off.
Speed looks fine when you are hitting.
However the speed will always look slow when you are pitching because that's how the game works. Slight delay on pitcher side but to the hitter side everything is full speed, so the games are synced up.
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There are games that Hal is unhittable, and games where it looks lift a balloon coming in. I don't understand it. One game I feel like I'm hitting great, and the next there's a hole in my bad. Like, I can't even foul tip a ball I was mashing in the previous game. So the difficulty sliders have either changed drastically or it's ping.
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@Papa_Valsalva said in Fluctuating pitch speeds in RS (both teams in 800s):
Can I get a second set of eyes on this? I was crushing Hal and chapman hours ago on same difficulty in seasons but this game I literally couldn't do anything. Does it look like the pitches are coming in unusually fast? I need to sleep most likely, but something seemed off.
Lmao at Reggie Jackson swinging the wet noodle for the third out.
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I noticed it this morning too. I’ve never had a problem hitting vida blue, but when I played this morning, the timing was all over the place. I’d be very early on fastballs, then very late when I knew it was coming and timed it up. Same thing with offspeed. Was pretty frustrating, but ended up winning because my opponent couldn’t hit a fastball.
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half my games pitch speed comes in wayyyy too fast its a joke at this point and has made me pretty much give up on playing. Only time it plays right is right after a server reset. Lmao I've been dealing with this since day 1. Ruins timing anything or getting better
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I don't know regarding the pitch speeds, but I would have been more annoyed about that hanging change up down the middle to Reggie Jackson getting smashed for a warning track fly out. Obviously you win some and lose some in that situation with this game, but I feel like that should have been deposited in the river...
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@LankyRyan said in Fluctuating pitch speeds in RS (both teams in 800s):
@mrwonderful95 said in Fluctuating pitch speeds in RS (both teams in 800s):
@LankyRyan said in Fluctuating pitch speeds in RS (both teams in 800s):
Yeah the timing windows are screwy, for sure. I've had games where I couldn't catch up to Ohtani on All Star, but Newhouser on legend was like BP. Pitch speed difference has been around for years online, which leads me to believe it's connection based, but it's so much worse and so much more variable this year.
Funny you say this because I don’t remember this being an issue at all last year in 19. Do you remember this at all last year?
Yep, as stated above, I do. Not as often or noticeable as this year, though.
Yup, its always been there, I think the super narrow timing window this year just makes it far more noticeable.
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@vagimon said in Fluctuating pitch speeds in RS (both teams in 800s):
Synchronization, that’s the problem, internet speeds difference.
Does anyone believe it doesn't have anything to do with speeds, sleep deprivation, "what we did wrong" period.
That, in fact, it's all about what AI decides will happen in the game? I played my last game for good (I hope I can stick with it) last night. Many-many negative experiences leading up to it. But, the final straw (and not as bad as most things I've seen). I'm winning 3-2 8th inning. Scored 2 runs and got 7 or 8 hits off of starter
