Should SDS sell high?
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@Boudrow96 said in Should SDS sell high?:
@Ikasnu said in Should SDS sell high?:
Noooooooope. Big long hard erect no from me dawg. SDS has their flaws, but they're better than 2K and EA in every way.
Lol, nice! I agree on 2K. EA has better sports engines and resources imo. I’m really just venting cause they should have these issues figured out considering they are flushed with cash and have been making games for Years.
Ea sports engine better? Have you played madden lately? I'd take 2k over ea everyday. Both money hungry and microtransaction ridden games. But 2k is atleast playable. Myplayer has a good amount of depth too it, Myleague is 100% better than maddens Franchise mode. On top of that as bad as 2k is they do address alot of problems especially when it comes to cheese online.( I.E removing behind the back cheese this year). So yeah id take 2k atleast they still somewhat care about their product, EA literally don't give a Fk
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@j9milz said in Should SDS sell high?:
@Boudrow96 said in Should SDS sell high?:
@Ikasnu said in Should SDS sell high?:
Noooooooope. Big long hard erect no from me dawg. SDS has their flaws, but they're better than 2K and EA in every way.
Lol, nice! I agree on 2K. EA has better sports engines and resources imo. I’m really just venting cause they should have these issues figured out considering they are flushed with cash and have been making games for Years.
Ea sports engine better? Have you played madden lately? I'd take 2k over ea everyday. Both money hungry and microtransaction ridden games. But 2k is atleast playable. Myplayer has a good amount of depth too it, Myleague is 100% better than maddens Franchise mode. On top of that as bad as 2k is they do address alot of problems especially when it comes to cheese online.( I.E removing behind the back cheese this year). So yeah id take 2k atleast they still somewhat care about their product, EA literally don't give a Fk
I haven’t played the new one! So you may be correct. But From my own experience EA games play smooth (NHL and FIFA) , especially in comparison to the current state of this game. I do agree that they are all money hungry. I just want a functional game. Lol
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@Boudrow96 said in Should SDS sell high?:
@j9milz said in Should SDS sell high?:
@Boudrow96 said in Should SDS sell high?:
@Ikasnu said in Should SDS sell high?:
Noooooooope. Big long hard erect no from me dawg. SDS has their flaws, but they're better than 2K and EA in every way.
Lol, nice! I agree on 2K. EA has better sports engines and resources imo. I’m really just venting cause they should have these issues figured out considering they are flushed with cash and have been making games for Years.
Ea sports engine better? Have you played madden lately? I'd take 2k over ea everyday. Both money hungry and microtransaction ridden games. But 2k is atleast playable. Myplayer has a good amount of depth too it, Myleague is 100% better than maddens Franchise mode. On top of that as bad as 2k is they do address alot of problems especially when it comes to cheese online.( I.E removing behind the back cheese this year). So yeah id take 2k atleast they still somewhat care about their product, EA literally don't give a Fk
I haven’t played the new one! So you may be correct. But From my oRNG.perience EA games play smooth (NHL and FIFA) , especially in comparison to the current state of this game. I do agree that they are all money hungry. I just want a functional game. Lol
Totally with you on that. My fault also, I tend to forget EA makes other sports games, so just using madden as a reference isn't a fair comparison.
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@Boudrow96 said in Should SDS sell high?:
@Ikasnu said in Should SDS sell high?:
Lol, nice! I agree on 2K. EA has better sports engines and resources imo. I’m really just venting cause they should have these issues figured out considering they are flushed with cash and have been making games for Years.
You have copies of their P/L Statements, do you?
The only ones who have access to that info is SDS and Sony themselves. And the parent company seems happy enough, as does MLB which just granted permission (and/or demanded) they take the game cross-platform next year.
Sorry, but you're in the distinct minority.
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All good! I’m actually not familiar enough with 2K to even make that comparison. You’d know way better than me. I just love EA, maybe cause I grew up on it. All these developers have issues. I think I’m just so rattled with how bad the fielding/pitching is right now that I’m blowing things a bit out of proportion. Lol
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@SaveFarris said in Should SDS sell high?:
@Boudrow96 said in Should SDS sell high?:
@Ikasnu said in Should SDS sell high?:
Lol, nice! I agree on 2K. EA has better sports engines and resources imo. I’m really just venting cause they should have these issues figured out considering they are flushed with cash and have been making games for Years.
You have copies of their P/L Statements, do you?
The only ones who have access to that info is SDS and Sony themselves. And the parent company seems happy enough, as does MLB which just granted permission (and/or demanded) they take the game cross-platform next year.
Sorry, but you're in the distinct minority.
No, I don’t. But it’s obvious they are.... Video game companies don’t operate under deficits. I already explained having 0 marginal cost in another post. They pay nothing to produce each additional game unit after the initial investment. Meaning each game, stub and pack is additional revenue. They have 90 employees and generated 1.7 million in game sales revenue ALONE last year. Never mind sponsorship , AD and partner revenue. I’m also confused as to the response you’re trying to get. You are supporting my statement by saying they are going cross platform, that costs dough. I’m simply saying they have the funds to outsource the work or hire someone internally who can do the work necessary to improve the game.
If I’m misunderstanding you, please clarify.
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EA rigs tf out of NHL and FIFA so if it were to go to EA no thank you.
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SDS has a proud history of working on sports games for nearly 20 years.
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@Collin_SDS said in Should SDS sell high?:
SDS has a proud history of working on sports games for nearly 20 years.
Thank you for this! Exactly why I think it’s absurd this game is so dysfunctional. Lol it’s not like they are new to baseball games. They have no excuse. If after 20 years you can’t get fielding down, might be time to turn the wheel another direction in terms of personnel.
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@Boudrow96 said in Should SDS sell high?:
Thank you for this! Exactly why I think it’s absurd this game is so dysfunctional. Lol it’s not like they are new to baseball games. They have no excuse. If after 20 years you can’t get fielding down, might be time to turn the wheel another direction in terms of personnel.
First we aren't sports-centric enough, but given more information, our experience is actually our weakness?
Team members are currently working on the concerns within the community.
https://twitter.com/MLBTheShow_Tips/status/1251310679350317056 -
I’m glad they are working on it! Something as trivial as fielding should never be an issue in the first place. It’s been satisfactorily in all previous games, why all of a sudden is it a struggle. Sometimes less is more..
@Collin_SDS
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@Boudrow96 said in Should SDS sell high?:
Something as trivial as fielding
I can assure you the logic is not trivial...
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Yea when coding it the first time. Listen I’m obviously not a developer and I’m sure you have a birds eye view of the issues, but briefly explain to everyone including myself why fielding works perfectly in all the other games but not this one? Can’t you just implant the old code? It’s definitely the least intricate when compared to hitting and pitching, no?
@Collin_SDS
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And regardless of the complexity, you guys sold a broken game to the world and your MLB partners are actively down talking the game...
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This is by far the stupidest post Ive seen in a long time.
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@Collin_SDS said in Should SDS sell high?:
@Boudrow96 said in Should SDS sell high?:
Something as trivial as fielding
I can assure you the logic is not trivial...
Dude, can you believe these noobs?
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@Boudrow96 said in Should SDS sell high?:
Thinking SDS should sell the rights to MLB over to a better development team, preferably a sports-centric one. I don’t see how you could create an award winning game and over the course of a few years break it entirely.
They should sell while the value is there because the developers clearly have no idea what they are doing.
No, they shouldn't stop making The Show, as they've long been the industry's gold standard for creating a comprehensive player experience. They have an extremely high reputation in the gaming industry, one which many (myself included) believe to be well-earned.
One improvement they could make, possibly... is to create something akin to "Baseball School", a longish tutorial-type experience through which players can learn the basic nature of baseball, the physics of the sport (particularly the variance introduced by collision physics, etc).
Unfortunately, they'd probably have to offer high rewards for completion of Baseball School, but it sure would help clear the pollution in the forum. Only the most stubborn spewers would continue once they've actually gained some understanding of the game, I suspect.
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@Onyx_Hokie_2 said in Should SDS sell high?:
@Boudrow96 said in Should SDS sell high?:
Thinking SDS should sell the rights to MLB over to a better development team, preferably a sports-centric one. I don’t see how you could create an award winning game and over the course of a few years break it entirely.
They should sell while the value is there because the developers clearly have no idea what they are doing.
No, they shouldn't stop making The Show, as they've long been the industry's gold standard for creating a comprehensive player experience. They have an extremely high reputation in the gaming industry, one which many (myself included) believe to be well-earned.
One improvement they could make, possibly... is to create something akin to "Baseball School", a longish tutorial-type experience through which players can learn the basic nature of baseball, the physics of the sport (particularly the variance introduced by collision physics, etc).
Unfortunately, they'd probably have to offer high rewards for completion of Baseball School, but it sure would help clear the pollution in the forum. Only the most stubborn spewers would continue once they've actually gained some understanding of the game, I suspect.
Haha best post of the month by far..better than any of mine actually. The "baseball school" part would be such a good idea for online casual noobs...just to teach them of how baseball is as a game?. And the fact they have to go through a long tutorial which might have them go though prolly a box of hot pockets is such a good idea. This is such an eye opening post for casual noob...I hope they read this and they think seriously about it but most likely it won't but this post was a good first step.....like what I'll say for the first time...first step for noobs, long step for casuals.
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@Boudrow96 said in Should SDS sell high?:
Yea when coding it the first time. Listen I’m obviously not a developer and I’m sure you have a birds eye view of the issues, but briefly explain to everyone including myself why fielding works perfectly in all the other games but not this one? Can’t you just implant the old code? It’s definitely the least intricate when compared to hitting and pitching, no?
@Collin_SDS
Fielding underwent some significant changes this year.
No offence intended but don’t be surprised if you don’t get a response to this from Collin or any developer. They tend not to be coerced into defending their experience, qualifications and life’s work by folk who are looking at it only from a user’s perspective and telling them they don’t know what they’re doing. This is the most I’ve seen a dev defending the game in a long long time.
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@Collin_SDS said in Should SDS sell high?:
SDS has a proud history of working on sports games for nearly 20 years.
Here’s the thing Colin, most of us like the franchise. That’s why we return year after year. Most of us want the game to be as good as it possibly can be, just as I’m sure you guys do as well. When you see people venting about the state of the game, sometimes going beyond what’s really appropriate for the situation and making insulting insinuations about the development team and their lack of ability and/or desire to improve the state of the game, it’s because you’ve made a product that people feel passionate about.
I don’t send multiple emails a week, pleading for improvement, to the developers of GTA or Need For Speed. Why? Because I really don’t care about the product that much. It doesn’t bother me if the game lags or the latest DLC isn’t really that great. On the other hand, SDS are frequently the recipients of my rambling, frustrated emails about the state of the game. That’s because I actually give a [censored]. I want to play the game and I want it to play well when I do play it. If you weren’t doing something right in the first place, I’d simply turn it off and not care, just like the other titles I referenced. So, in summary, yes, we give you a hard time. Yes, we complain about various issues within the game. But that’s a good thing, because it’s a sign you’ve got us invested in your product emotionally. It’s a sign people want to play, want to see improvement and aren’t just shrugging and switching off the game and console to play something else instead. With that in perspective, hopefully you can see why there is so much vitriol at times.
