Should SDS sell high?

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Thinking SDS should sell the rights to MLB over to a better development team, preferably a sports-centric one. I don’t see how you could create an award winning game and over the course of a few years break it entirely.

They should sell while the value is there because the developers clearly have no idea what they are doing.

SDS

Why would they sell the only game they make? Companies don't sell things when it's their only way to make money, they don't have anything to fall back on.

Besides, they can't just "sell" their MLB rights. That's not how it works.

SDS
  1. it’s not the only game they make.

  2. You’re right, they can’t sell the “MLB” rights, but I misspoke. They can sell the franchise which is what I meant by rights.

  3. Plenty of companies sell when it’s the only product they have. A majority of our corporations actually started that way. Once you can’t deliver the same quality product as when you started you sell and collect royalties. I personally think the user base and demands that are being made are too great for what they can handle. It’s kind of evident the last two years.

SDS

You seem like a smart dude. I forgot to mention marginal cost. They have essentially 0 marginal cost, which means after production of the initial software, it cost nothing to produce each additional unit. (With the exception of payroll) with that being said, they RAKE in cash. The fact this game still has issues shows the incompetence of the team. Something deep pockets can’t fix. Therefore I think they should outsource work or sell.

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@Boudrow96 said in Should SDS sell high?:

Thinking SDS should sell the rights to MLB over to a better development team, preferably a sports-centric one. I don’t see how you could create an award winning game and over the course of a few years break it entirely.

They should sell while the value is there because the developers clearly have no idea what they are doing.

Why would they sell it, though?

It's not about baseball. It's not about making a great video game. It's about creating a piece of software that manipulates dummies into spending hundreds, if not thousands of dollars on virtual nothingness.

Mission accomplished.

Proof: you said it yourself, the game is broken every year. It's getting worse and worse. Yet, the dummies keep throwing their money at it. The manipulation worked. SDS knows just WTF they're doing.

Now, if they were to sell The Show, it means the name "The Show" has more value than "MVP Baseball" and EA would gobble that $hit right up. They got a hard on to get the baseball dummies to overspend on 1s and 0s. And that just means an even $hittier game.

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@Boudrow96 said in Should SDS sell high?:

  1. it’s not the only game they make.

  2. You’re right, they can’t sell the “MLB” rights, but I misspoke. They can sell the franchise which is what I meant by rights.

  3. Plenty of companies sell when it’s the only product they have. A majority of our corporations actually started that way. Once you can’t deliver the same quality product as when you started you sell and collect royalties. I personally think the user base and demands that are being made are too great for what they can handle. It’s kind of evident the last two years.

From their website, they haven’t made a non-MLB The Show game since April 2017.

SDS

I don’t think they would sell, nor do I think it would actually be the best business decision. I think they’ve done a beastly job on the brand itself, but I think we’re at a crossroad where the ability To meet our asks is getting to be too difficult for them. You're right though, they know exactly what they are doing. I just wish that with all the revenue they reel in, they could hire competent developers. If the game was more polished they may even sell more packs and Stubbs..

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@Ikasnu said in Should SDS sell high?:

Noooooooope. Big long hard erect no from me dawg. SDS has their flaws, but they're better than 2K and EA in every way.

Lol, nice! I agree on 2K. EA has better sports engines and resources imo. I’m really just venting cause they should have these issues figured out considering they are flushed with cash and have been making games for Years.

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@Boudrow96 said in Should SDS sell high?:

@Ikasnu said in Should SDS sell high?:

Noooooooope. Big long hard erect no from me dawg. SDS has their flaws, but they're better than 2K and EA in every way.

Lol, nice! I agree on 2K. EA has better sports engines and resources imo. I’m really just venting cause they should have these issues figured out considering they are flushed with cash and have been making games for Years.

Ea sports engine better? Have you played madden lately? I'd take 2k over ea everyday. Both money hungry and microtransaction ridden games. But 2k is atleast playable. Myplayer has a good amount of depth too it, Myleague is 100% better than maddens Franchise mode. On top of that as bad as 2k is they do address alot of problems especially when it comes to cheese online.( I.E removing behind the back cheese this year). So yeah id take 2k atleast they still somewhat care about their product, EA literally don't give a Fk

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@j9milz said in Should SDS sell high?:

@Boudrow96 said in Should SDS sell high?:

@Ikasnu said in Should SDS sell high?:

Noooooooope. Big long hard erect no from me dawg. SDS has their flaws, but they're better than 2K and EA in every way.

Lol, nice! I agree on 2K. EA has better sports engines and resources imo. I’m really just venting cause they should have these issues figured out considering they are flushed with cash and have been making games for Years.

Ea sports engine better? Have you played madden lately? I'd take 2k over ea everyday. Both money hungry and microtransaction ridden games. But 2k is atleast playable. Myplayer has a good amount of depth too it, Myleague is 100% better than maddens Franchise mode. On top of that as bad as 2k is they do address alot of problems especially when it comes to cheese online.( I.E removing behind the back cheese this year). So yeah id take 2k atleast they still somewhat care about their product, EA literally don't give a Fk

I haven’t played the new one! So you may be correct. But From my own experience EA games play smooth (NHL and FIFA) , especially in comparison to the current state of this game. I do agree that they are all money hungry. I just want a functional game. Lol

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@Boudrow96 said in Should SDS sell high?:

@j9milz said in Should SDS sell high?:

@Boudrow96 said in Should SDS sell high?:

@Ikasnu said in Should SDS sell high?:

Noooooooope. Big long hard erect no from me dawg. SDS has their flaws, but they're better than 2K and EA in every way.

Lol, nice! I agree on 2K. EA has better sports engines and resources imo. I’m really just venting cause they should have these issues figured out considering they are flushed with cash and have been making games for Years.

Ea sports engine better? Have you played madden lately? I'd take 2k over ea everyday. Both money hungry and microtransaction ridden games. But 2k is atleast playable. Myplayer has a good amount of depth too it, Myleague is 100% better than maddens Franchise mode. On top of that as bad as 2k is they do address alot of problems especially when it comes to cheese online.( I.E removing behind the back cheese this year). So yeah id take 2k atleast they still somewhat care about their product, EA literally don't give a Fk

I haven’t played the new one! So you may be correct. But From my oRNG.perience EA games play smooth (NHL and FIFA) , especially in comparison to the current state of this game. I do agree that they are all money hungry. I just want a functional game. Lol

Totally with you on that. My fault also, I tend to forget EA makes other sports games, so just using madden as a reference isn't a fair comparison.

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@Boudrow96 said in Should SDS sell high?:

@Ikasnu said in Should SDS sell high?:

Lol, nice! I agree on 2K. EA has better sports engines and resources imo. I’m really just venting cause they should have these issues figured out considering they are flushed with cash and have been making games for Years.

You have copies of their P/L Statements, do you?

The only ones who have access to that info is SDS and Sony themselves. And the parent company seems happy enough, as does MLB which just granted permission (and/or demanded) they take the game cross-platform next year.

Sorry, but you're in the distinct minority.

SDS

All good! I’m actually not familiar enough with 2K to even make that comparison. You’d know way better than me. I just love EA, maybe cause I grew up on it. All these developers have issues. I think I’m just so rattled with how bad the fielding/pitching is right now that I’m blowing things a bit out of proportion. Lol

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@SaveFarris said in Should SDS sell high?:

@Boudrow96 said in Should SDS sell high?:

@Ikasnu said in Should SDS sell high?:

Lol, nice! I agree on 2K. EA has better sports engines and resources imo. I’m really just venting cause they should have these issues figured out considering they are flushed with cash and have been making games for Years.

You have copies of their P/L Statements, do you?

The only ones who have access to that info is SDS and Sony themselves. And the parent company seems happy enough, as does MLB which just granted permission (and/or demanded) they take the game cross-platform next year.

Sorry, but you're in the distinct minority.

No, I don’t. But it’s obvious they are.... Video game companies don’t operate under deficits. I already explained having 0 marginal cost in another post. They pay nothing to produce each additional game unit after the initial investment. Meaning each game, stub and pack is additional revenue. They have 90 employees and generated 1.7 million in game sales revenue ALONE last year. Never mind sponsorship , AD and partner revenue. I’m also confused as to the response you’re trying to get. You are supporting my statement by saying they are going cross platform, that costs dough. I’m simply saying they have the funds to outsource the work or hire someone internally who can do the work necessary to improve the game.

If I’m misunderstanding you, please clarify.

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EA rigs tf out of NHL and FIFA so if it were to go to EA no thank you.

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SDS has a proud history of working on sports games for nearly 20 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIE_San_Diego_Studio

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@Collin_SDS said in Should SDS sell high?:

SDS has a proud history of working on sports games for nearly 20 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIE_San_Diego_Studio

Thank you for this! Exactly why I think it’s absurd this game is so dysfunctional. Lol it’s not like they are new to baseball games. They have no excuse. If after 20 years you can’t get fielding down, might be time to turn the wheel another direction in terms of personnel.

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@Boudrow96 said in Should SDS sell high?:

Thank you for this! Exactly why I think it’s absurd this game is so dysfunctional. Lol it’s not like they are new to baseball games. They have no excuse. If after 20 years you can’t get fielding down, might be time to turn the wheel another direction in terms of personnel.

First we aren't sports-centric enough, but given more information, our experience is actually our weakness?

Team members are currently working on the concerns within the community.
https://twitter.com/MLBTheShow_Tips/status/1251310679350317056

SDS

I’m glad they are working on it! Something as trivial as fielding should never be an issue in the first place. It’s been satisfactorily in all previous games, why all of a sudden is it a struggle. Sometimes less is more..

@Collin_SDS