Legends
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They couldn’t have given us someone we want as a chase card as opposed to D. Allen? Headliners have been super stale too. Come on SdS
I have wanted the vast majority of headliners they have been releasing, and [censored] Allen is 1000x more appealing to me than some switch hitter du jour.
I also would have taken Campy if I had been playing this inning.
I just can't be more disappointed that all these HoF cards are being dumped in non grindable packs instead of, you know, the Hall of Fame program.
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Allen is 1000x more appealing to me than some switch hitter du jour.
How dare you talk about Ted a Simmons, Ozzie Smith, Lance Berkman and Willie McGee like that!
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Just noticed that it included Leonardo Bernal on the list but he is obviously not a legend.
The problem happens because his Topps Now card is Leonardo and his live series is Leo. Since my program did not find a matching name in the live series it assumed he was a legend
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Since the conversation in the Retro WS discussion has turned to Legends. I thought I would take another look at them and see where we stand.
Kind of surprising to see how many still have their best card at 90 or below and how many of those have only had a single card (as indicated by the number after their name). That includes big names like Lou Gehrig Willie Mays and Randy Johnson.
70 out of 111 legends who do not have a 99 card have only received a single card so far this year. You have to assume that the ones at 88 or below were all released as soon as the game launched.
Roger Clemens
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The other issue is how much are these guys gonna be when they're released. Joe Morgan was one of the most recent legends released and he's almost up to 200k. Babe Ruth had 115 buy orders at 1M, Bobby Witt last I checked had about 25. Every specialty pack is basically Al Kaline. Every LS is either Glasnow or someone below 88. BIAP and regular packs are basically worthless. The marketplace activity looks and feels as if we're in late February. Is there gonna be a Negro League program / exchange or are we gonna be expected to buy each one separately?
Heck, I may just end up finishing this year playing some random games on '25.
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What about him? He is included in the list, 2 cards with his best being a 97. Better that about 100 guys on the list.
But thanks, it pointed me to another error.
Zach Thornton - Topps Now
Zac Thornton - LiveJust seems sloppy both on SDS' part for not being able to sync the name of these players and me for not proofing it and catching it before.
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What about him? He is included in the list, 2 cards with his best being a 97. Better that about 100 guys on the list.
But thanks, it pointed me to another error.
Zach Thornton - Topps Now
Zac Thornton - LiveJust seems sloppy both on SDS' part for not being able to sync the name of these players and me for not proofing it and catching it before.
Sorry, that was meant to come out as whom I'm waiting for a 99. Hopefully with the Red Sox.
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I want an actual 99 Ted Williams. My 97 Teddy is P5 99 and is my best hitter so thinking an actual 99 will the best. -
Why do we only get good Willie Mays cards after the season is done? I mean it seems like it happens every year. Release a god card early on since his swing in the game isn’t great.
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His swing has been terrible ever since he was introduced to the game. What’s up with that? Arguably the GOAT. -
I’m just waiting on 99 Mark McGwire. I know he’s not the most popular guy in The Show, but he’s my guy - has been since ‘87. Once he drops - and I HOPE he drops - then I fill out the rest of my final roster.
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I just checked. This was the list last year on Oct 31st.
53 in 2025 vs 109 this year
Updated Graphic
28 players have been neglected two years in a row
Player 2026 2025 Matt Cain 83 98 Bert Blyleven 88 91 Bob Feller 88 92 Eric Gagne 88 92 Hal Newhouser 88 92 Juan Marichal 88 95 Justin Morneau 88 98 Lee Smith 88 95 Mike Cameron 88 93 Vida Blue 88 86 Larry Doby 89 89 Mark Davis 89 98 Andrew Miller 90 96 Brian Roberts 90 91 Kyle Seager 90 98 Bruce Sutter 91 87 Duke Snider 91 85 Ralph Kiner 92 90 Raul Ibanez 92 97 Jim Rice 93 94 Billy Williams 94 96 Lou Brock 94 91 Gary Sheffield 95 98 Gary Carter 96 80 Harold Baines 98 91 Ian Kinsler 98 95 Tony Oliva 98 97 Whitey Ford 98 92 -
@Dolenz_PSN Gagne and miller not having 99s is stupid. 2 layups for sds especially with the lack of relievers.
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How many times do we have to say “c’mon SDS”? They should be embarrassed.
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28 players have been neglected two years in a row
But not Johnkensy Noel. He has had his 99 trotted out three years in a row.
Billy Williams, career .290 hitter with 2700 hits and 420 HR
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This clearly illustrates a few things. One, the emphasis on younger players at the expense of legends. Two, the copy and paste nature that this game has morphed in to. Three, completely disregarding real life stats when fabricating cards for DD.
I could list many more but you get the idea. An uninformed player of this game would think Willi Castro was actually better than Willie Mays. Bottom line is just wish legends were prioritized a bit more than juicing up mediocre players cards over and over again.
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My theory about this is simple. The lack of legends is an attempt to save money. If they can get the player base to accept less and less legends, then they don't have to pay for their likeness and it saves their bottom dollar. I think it is pretty obvious this year too.
There has been way more focus on active players and when they do release legends, they are part of a massive dump to get them out there (Moonshot).
This is coupled with the fact that many great legends are not in the game this year including
Fergie Jenkins
Ernie Banks
Mike Schmidt
Eric Davis
Frank ThomasIf you slowly pull back, then people might not notice.. and it saves money.
And if you replace Frank Thomas with Ben Zobrist.. it saves moneyJust a theory though
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I think you are spot on. It’s all about money at this point. Despite a very subpar release it’s made a crazy amount of money. They don’t need to even try to satisfy players anymore. The whales and streamers and gamblers aren’t going anywhere. It’s only gonna become less effort and more predatory moving forward.
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I think its a much simpler explanation. They have the data on which cards get used and which don't. They are giving their users more of the cards they use and less of the ones they don't.
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And if you replace Frank Thomas with Ben Zobrist.. it saves money
Ben Zobrist is a freebie anyway since its attached to MLBX, just like how Didi and Rubin Tejada were freebies with WBC. I assume they don't have rights to use them outside of that context.
