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*** AI Exploiting Buys and Sells???

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  • im_aPugtato_PSNI Offline
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    @busdriver555_PSN said:

    Is there something going on where people now have AI programs to undercut you? This afternoon, every time I set a buy or sell on a few players, INSTANTLY my price is undercut by 1. Both buys and sells. It is not that someone sees my price and then sets it, it's instantaneous. I tested it multiple times with going way higher on a buy price, to again see it happen. It is almost instant.

    For example, Buys were at like 7500, I set 7505, boom it goes over. So I tested my theory and went to 8333, 8334. I cancel, then it cancels, to where their bot is still highest.

    I hope SDS looks into this. Pull down the app to require only in console buys and sells until this is addressed. It was just a matter of time before someone did this. It's ruining the market. This is not on all cards, but I saw it on Goldschmidt and Trea Turner today.

    Wouldn’t a captcha be better?

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  • LadySwampfox_XBLL Offline
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    I was seeing it too today. I’d place a sell order, then someone or something would IMMEDIATELY cancel theirs and undercut mine. In a nanosecond

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  • samguenther1987_PSNS Offline
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    I was hoping that the bots had been at least controlled but they appear to be out of control again tonight.

    What is the point of collections if you can't even collect players? I'm just so sick of this [censored].

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  • samguenther1987_PSNS Offline
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    The market is so broken now, move a margin up and the bots follow, move the margin back down and the bots follow you down again. Basically not even trying to get the card just blocking.

    Can not wait for GTA 6 to come out so I have something other then this bugged game to play.

    FIX YOUR GAME SDS

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  • Chase34342364_XBLC Offline
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    Personally, I think it is SDS. This market being usable to gain stubs for free is losing them money. Like every other game platform. They’re manipulating the market to be sure eager players are paying real money for stubs. Just the same as how they manipulate the AI for hitting and pitching. There are days when everyone is hot and there are days when everyone can’t buy a hit.

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    @Chase34342364_XBL

    What’s really weird is the market was actually viable on Saturday and by Sunday all the margins magically dried up. It’s very suspicious to say the least. Whether it’s bots, SDS, or both it’s discouraging for sure. I had hope for a moment but that is now gone.

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    @TripleH-4481_PSN
    I have been following this closely for the last couple of years and I also noticed no bots on Saturday. It was awesome. The feeling was like it used to be but then by Sunday the bots were back in full force. I thought SDS might have shut it down but I guess not. It was either a third party that got scared or SDS was busy banning people. I had another thought on the slow menus. Maybe it has something with all these bot transactions/inputs hitting the servers. Maybe the bots are overwhelming the servers and slowing it down. I actually thought they may be affecting gameplay as well. Even offline it feels like I am late on input much more this year than the past.

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    @Parr99_XBL

    Yes the market was night and day this weekend. By late Saturday it was drying up and by Sunday it was toast. I agree that it has to at least partially be bots running mini seasons and the market non stop bogging the servers down.

    They are never great but this year is next level bad. The gameplay experience on the whole this year has been extremely unrewarding at best and miserable at worst.

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  • Sarge1387_PSNS Online
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    Yeah I saw this nonsense last night, was trying to do a little flipping of equipment because the margins actually weren't horrible for once...same garbage. Input an order and instantly one upped by one stub. I'd delete my buy, and again instantly the bot order would disappear. Got frustrated and gave up.

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    @Sarge1387_PSN

    Yep, that’s been my experience all year except for Saturday morning until mid afternoon and then back to the same old [censored]. I thought things had finally shifted but no go.

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  • JenkinMeyer_PSNJ Offline
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    Man, bots are bast-ards

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    @Sarge1387_PSN said:

    Yeah I saw this nonsense last night, was trying to do a little flipping of equipment because the margins actually weren't horrible for once...same garbage. Input an order and instantly one upped by one stub. I'd delete my buy, and again instantly the bot order would disappear. Got frustrated and gave up.

    Yup exactly, got so frustrated that I ended up buying cards I wanted and going down to 12k again, I mean what's the point of stubs when you can't even make any by working the market. I'm very close to just giving up this year. Friday/Saturday were great and Sunday was a nightmare.

    I hate the bots so much

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    @JenkinMeyer_PSN said:

    This is just Dolenz preparing a market crash for Ted and Berkman

    if that's what @dolenz_psn wants, I support it 100%

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    @MarioMendoza935_XBL said:

    @JenkinMeyer_PSN said:

    This is just Dolenz preparing a market crash for Ted and Berkman

    if that's what @dolenz_psn wants, I support it 100%

    I tried to give him 50k stubs but he’s too honest. There should be a Zelle in video games

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    I was feeling a little better about the market this weekend. Like @savefarris_psn said in another post, margins opened up a little and I was able to flip about 100k in profits. By this morning, all the cards I was flipping (Egg Hunt and St. Pat's) had tightened up again.

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    @MarioMendoza935_XBL

    Yep it was short lived as the bots are back in full force.

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  • JenkinMeyer_PSNJ Offline
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    Maybe they actually were working that day and just got beat.

    Encouraging if they’re trying to do stuff over the weekend. Trying to find some positives

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  • OleMiss2010_PSNO Offline
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    Trying to sell my De Vries card right now and 2 bots undercutting by 1 no matter what price I drop so you know what dropped the price nearly 6k lower than it was when we started. Have fun losing thousands of stubs!

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    @OleMiss2010_PSN

    Yeah the bots are back in full force so either they were able to work around whatever SDS did or a new wave is running rampant.

    I have a bad feeling that them threatening action for the WBC glitch and not following thru with anything up to this point in time along with continued alienation of the player base has made even more people turn to the dark side feeling like they will never be held accountable.

    I’m not justifying it in any way as someone that is struggling to keep up, did not do the WBC glitch, and feels that the cheaters are taking over this game across the board.

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  • Alaric919_PSNA Offline
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    Whether it’s SDS (I believe it is; flipping costs them money) or an issue they won’t acknowledge let alone fix, the result is the same…and so is the blame.

    Remember when flipping was limited to the console? I can’t believe I’m longing for that…

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