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  • JenkinMeyer_PSNJ Offline
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    @Graeves-_PSN said:

    I've said for years Sony doesn't need 2 different ratings between online and offline.
    We don't need anyone to have 125 Contact , Power, baserunning ability or whatever attribute you choose. 99 is more than good enough IMO.

    Having a player with 125 Speed is akin to Nigel Tufnel with speakers ''These go to 11.''

    If they’d make their ratings actually matter it would be cool - the problem is that it feels like

    0-90 =-90 meaningless
    99 = sweet spot.

    Why even have ratings between 0-90 if they don’t actually affect gameplay. I’ve never understood why Ricky Henderson (a true 99 speed) gets the same treatment as some Topps now guy who stole 20 bases in 2 years.

    They’ve got to make their attributes mean something

    And this season they just changed their menus to reflect a bunch of bar graphs and meaningless BS to distract from the fact that their attributes don’t really mean much. There’s like maybe 4 stats that matter the rest is eye candy

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  • DeleteyourTTVBTW_MLBTSD Offline
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    You can call me crazy but I swear I can feel the discipline. All year I’ve thought in my head there is no way check swings feel the same for everyone. I don’t think I’ve got a single check swing call with Ohtani. If his was high I would be pretty baffled. If Bobby Witts was low I’d feel the same.

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    @DeleteyourTTVBTW_MLBTS said:

    You can call me crazy but I swear I can feel the discipline. All year I’ve thought in my head there is no way check swings feel the same for everyone. I don’t think I’ve got a single check swing call with Ohtani. If his was high I would be pretty baffled. If Bobby Witts was low I’d feel the same.

    Absolutely agree - it’s there in the background somewhere. May not show on a card but it’s there

    So they just removed the discipline stat from your card but they definitely are still using it

    I thought maybe they rolled it into Vision but I’ve noticed some vision guys can’t check much either. Maybe they put it in conjunction with high power guys. No clue

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  • Dolenz_PSND Offline
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    Plate Discipline is a value on every card. I can confirm that much from looking at the raw file my program fetches from the server.

    Whether it is used in ratings or not is something I will let everyone else speculate on.

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    @Dolenz_PSN

    Well there you have it. They should display those stats if they’re still in use in my opinion - I ain’t as competitive as some of these others but don’t just remove the ability to see “Discipline” on card and still be using it.

    More laziness from SDS I surmise, just remove the visual and see if anyone notices. Then maybe fix it 7 years later. If people complain enough, otherwise fix it in 9 years

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  • Dolenz_PSND Offline
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    @JenkinMeyer_PSN

    I said it is there. I did not say it was actually being used. If they are using it for Franchise then maybe it is just easier to include in both the Franchise and DD rosters than to strip it out of one.

    I just had ChatGPT try and come up with the formulas by analyzing all 1226 position players and it came to the conclusion that Discipline plays no real part of the ratings.

    Power numbers are the most significant.

    It estimates Power Numbers make up 30.9% of the score for SS on the low end and 37.1% for First basemen on the high side. Which is why guys like Ozzie, Gwynn and Carew are lower OVR cards despite have excellent contact.

    It still needs to reanalyze and maybe tweak itself as it seems to be taking BR Aggression into account and that is another field that while it is in the file was supposed to not count for anything.

    I might have it take another run later

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  • Christuffer9917_PSNC Offline
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    Unfortunately, I think this is why 94 overall spotlight Elly De La Cruz has a weird speed attribute. If it weren't for this imo (in my opinion), then I think Elly would have had 99 speed. And also no wonder why this year's cards have been off.

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    @Christuffer9917_PSN it’s the defense they actually undercut/underrated - he’s been a wizard out there and you wouldn’t know from his card

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    @Christuffer9917_PSN said:

    Unfortunately, I think this is why 94 overall spotlight Elly De La Cruz has a weird speed attribute. If it weren't for this imo (in my opinion), then I think Elly would have had 99 speed. And also no wonder why this year's cards have been off.

    I still maintain that Elly did not get 99 speed because he ranked 121st in Statcasts sprint speed metric, which I believe they use for the speed attribute.

    The card was for April 2026, not 2024.

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  • JenkinMeyer_PSNJ Offline
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    I think at the end of the day it’s important for anyone to know what stats are being used

    It shouldn’t take Dolenz or fans or message board posters to play Clue when they could just be transparent and not have Dolenz doing their job for them

    Off topic - but about their repeated use of the same old legends and flashbacks:

    I could send an email tomorrow to all ex- MLB players “can we use your likeness” and I’d imagine they’d say yes.

    Barry Bonds or whoever maybe not but they or whoever decided that they can only have so many legends due to rights or greed or whatever is just pure BS.

    Maybe I’m wrong, maybe Willie McGee charged them 1,000,000 but haha, no way

    They’re just lazy. If the union is a factor I get that- there’s so many players outside of union that would love to be in a video game free or charge

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    @Dolenz_PSN and (in addition) to that point, the sample isn’t just April anymore obviously but he actually has a negative run value on stolen base attempts right now (he’s only 9 for 13)

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  • NotesOfJohn_PSNN Offline
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    I heard them say this isn't true, however, given how often they have either blatantly lied or lied by omission this year, I'd have a hard to believing SDS if they told me the sky was blue.

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