It shouldn’t take Dolenz or fans or message board posters to play Clue when they could just be transparent and not have Dolenz doing their job for them

Off topic - but about their repeated use of the same old legends and flashbacks:

I could send an email tomorrow to all ex- MLB players “can we use your likeness” and I’d imagine they’d say yes.

Barry Bonds or whoever maybe not but they or whoever decided that they can only have so many legends due to rights or greed or whatever is just pure BS.

Maybe I’m wrong, maybe Willie McGee charged them 1,000,000 but haha, no way

They’re just lazy. If the union is a factor I get that- there’s so many players outside of union that would love to be in a video game free or charge

@Christuffer9917_PSN said:

Unfortunately, I think this is why 94 overall spotlight Elly De La Cruz has a weird speed attribute. If it weren't for this imo (in my opinion), then I think Elly would have had 99 speed. And also no wonder why this year's cards have been off.

I still maintain that Elly did not get 99 speed because he ranked 121st in Statcasts sprint speed metric, which I believe they use for the speed attribute.

The card was for April 2026, not 2024.

I said it is there. I did not say it was actually being used. If they are using it for Franchise then maybe it is just easier to include in both the Franchise and DD rosters than to strip it out of one.

I just had ChatGPT try and come up with the formulas by analyzing all 1226 position players and it came to the conclusion that Discipline plays no real part of the ratings.

Power numbers are the most significant.

It estimates Power Numbers make up 30.9% of the score for SS on the low end and 37.1% for First basemen on the high side. Which is why guys like Ozzie, Gwynn and Carew are lower OVR cards despite have excellent contact.

It still needs to reanalyze and maybe tweak itself as it seems to be taking BR Aggression into account and that is another field that while it is in the file was supposed to not count for anything.

I might have it take another run later

Well there you have it. They should display those stats if they’re still in use in my opinion - I ain’t as competitive as some of these others but don’t just remove the ability to see “Discipline” on card and still be using it.

More laziness from SDS I surmise, just remove the visual and see if anyone notices. Then maybe fix it 7 years later. If people complain enough, otherwise fix it in 9 years

Whether it is used in ratings or not is something I will let everyone else speculate on.

@DeleteyourTTVBTW_MLBTS said:

You can call me crazy but I swear I can feel the discipline. All year I’ve thought in my head there is no way check swings feel the same for everyone. I don’t think I’ve got a single check swing call with Ohtani. If his was high I would be pretty baffled. If Bobby Witts was low I’d feel the same.

Absolutely agree - it’s there in the background somewhere. May not show on a card but it’s there

So they just removed the discipline stat from your card but they definitely are still using it

I thought maybe they rolled it into Vision but I’ve noticed some vision guys can’t check much either. Maybe they put it in conjunction with high power guys. No clue

@Graeves-_PSN said:

I've said for years Sony doesn't need 2 different ratings between online and offline.
We don't need anyone to have 125 Contact , Power, baserunning ability or whatever attribute you choose. 99 is more than good enough IMO.

Having a player with 125 Speed is akin to Nigel Tufnel with speakers ''These go to 11.''

If they’d make their ratings actually matter it would be cool - the problem is that it feels like

0-90 =-90 meaningless
99 = sweet spot.

Why even have ratings between 0-90 if they don’t actually affect gameplay. I’ve never understood why Ricky Henderson (a true 99 speed) gets the same treatment as some Topps now guy who stole 20 bases in 2 years.

They’ve got to make their attributes mean something

And this season they just changed their menus to reflect a bunch of bar graphs and meaningless BS to distract from the fact that their attributes don’t really mean much. There’s like maybe 4 stats that matter the rest is eye candy

@On_a_Power_Trip_PSN said:

SDS might still be using those attributes we can’t see in DD anymore to tweak overalls, apparently

(Source: I watched this short)

Done with this company in July. Konami baseball in July. Here we go!

Having a player with 125 Speed is akin to Nigel Tufnel with speakers ''These go to 11.''

@cusejuice315_PSN said:

Discipline and Durability have no affect on DD overall..victor from SDS responded directly to nutzypoo about it. They are legacy attributes that only affect offline franchise and the OG Ruairi dev from SDS refuses to let them go. Overalls were "overhauled" from 25 to 26 but durability and discipline have no affect on overall rating in online DD

That or they’re hidden and just not shown. They may still be using those criteria in the background

No offense to those particular people but they work for SDS so I wouldn’t expect them to be truthful about much

@On_a_Power_Trip_PSN said:

@GoozeFn_PSN I’m not buying that the formula doesn’t have those ratings at all either, to be honest with you, but if they are to be believed (the explanation was that the dev who does the attributes wanted to keep doing those ratings to maintain routine cause they’ve apparently been at it for a few years now), the ratings manipulation in question is more incompetent than shady. Which is kinda believable to me.

“Incompetent” is the key word here. They’ve been so neglectful, it’s not that they’re idiots they’re all smart. Just stop being incompetent.

They’ve allowed broken things to exist for so long which leads one to believe they’re being purposefully stupid or just outright incompetence which I can’t wrap my head around, with Sony money

@LHUBison58_XBL said:

Regardless of what they did and did not say, they are still making sure free cards are gilded diamonds while Chase pack cards are loaded. Case in point: 94 Harper has 125 DISC, 95 Griffey has 74. Hmmm, which one is free? And in case you say that’s a 94 to a 95 let’s pull in the Juan Soto boss card which is a 95. Juan has a 124 DISC.

I don’t disagree, but they’ve been doing that for years. I remember a post from like three years ago with some guy talking about using his own reading system to figure out what the best cards actually are because of the ratings hijinx of SDS.

However, I don’t think they ever made the promise that those ratings were being removed. Weren’t they just stating that they aren’t used in online play? I always took that to mean that they aren’t used and determining outcomes of a play, or hit, etc.

When you create a player, those values are still there. So it’s not like they are going out of their way to hide them.

I think all they ever promised was that they were removed from the screen because they aren’t used in online. I am more than happy to be proven wrong if someone can direct me to the exact commentary on this.