Name a legend that moves the needle.
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I’m still excited about a new game BUT streamers and majority have been disappointed in legend reveals. You can include me in that particular gripe. I’m sure they have anywhere from 1-3 legends yet to be revealed. Buster Posey (who leaked) is one of them.
Last year, I know Beltran was up their sleeve. I believe Gil Hodges was too. Ted Williams and Clemens were the two guys that “moved the needle” for me last year. Beltran and Hodges both turned out to be awesome, but I certainly didn’t expect that.
We need more and I think we get it. Forget about Bonds, it ain’t gonna happen. But I wish SDS would be transparent about it. If he doesn’t want in the game, the fanbase will move on and stop the chatter. If it’s about $$$, I think that helps the fanbase get a grasp that he’s greedy and won’t take a deal like Griffey. Again we move on. But a legend like him, I just think transparency is key. This would be the same for say Pete Rose and Ty Cobb. 1 and 2 respectfully in all time hits. WHY are they not here? Is it their estate, or is it a conscience discussion by SDS not to include them.
Other needle movers are Joe DiMaggio, Sandy Koufax, Bo Jackson and maybe ARod.
I can’t think of anyone else. Walter Johnson would be nice to see back. Jose Canseco 40/40 card?
Any thoughts?
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I would argue for the more casual fan that A-Rod is way more of a needle mover than the likes of Koufax, DiMaggio and Bo.
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@SakAttack87_PSN I don’t disagree with that take.
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I’d add Ichiro and Deion (I know he wasn’t the greatest, but then man does move needles.)
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@SaveFarris_PSN I think Bo Jackson would to some degree as well.
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Cobb and DiMaggio.
And for a sport that embraces history unlike any other, I’d like to see more Deadball era players- Shoeless Joe Jackson, Tris Speaker, "Three-Finger" Brown, Grover Cleveland Alexander, etc. -
Rogers Hornsby - would love to have him back
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Would also love to see Concepcion added. He doesn’t move the needle but would be a great Reds addition
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I believe they need to continue putting legends that have been ostracized by baseball in the game, Pete Rose for one maybe not the ones that are still alive that had/having issues with domestic violence or other issues with the law but steroid era, and legends that have passed away particularly the ones that have passed away, we can still honor their greatness on the diamond, we can't throw the baby out with the bathwater. I know there are NIL issues as well, how about as much as SDS is able too.
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I miss Lofton and Alomar
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I believe they need to continue putting legends that have been ostracized by baseball in the game, Pete Rose for one maybe not the ones that are still alive that had/having issues with domestic violence or other issues with the law but steroid era, and legends that have passed away particularly the ones that have passed away, we can still honor their greatness on the diamond, we can't throw the baby out with the bathwater. I know there are NIL issues as well, how about as much as SDS is able too.
Pete Rose admitted to having [censored] with a 16 year old when he was 34.
Rivera's case is still ongoing, and is a very serious coverup if true.
The rest of the names, other than Cobb, are domestic violence cases.I suspect Cobb just wasn't used enough to justify the cost his estate is charging. Not because a writer slandered him.
Schilling is a prime example of a guy, however, that should be in game. But I also suspect he is the type of person to tell SDS to get bent.
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What?!? I don't know what rock I've been under, I didn't know that about Rose. Scratch Rose then that's horrible!
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@DrBear100_PSN I could not care less about Kirby Puckett and unsubstantiated 25 year old allegations. These things have nothing to do with baseball. I get not putting say Wander Franco in the game and Alomar because his ban probably prevents them from using him, but some of these guys they are avoiding are clearly political.
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@Teak2112_MLBTS Id bet they haven’t even tried to get Schilling purely because of politics.
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I want Bonds, but he doesn't want to be in.
I begged him on Twitter, when it was named that. I left shortly after the name change! 'X' is an incredibly dumb name. People still call tweets: 'tweets ' That says it all.
Curt Schilling, Pete Rose, Del Unser, my favorite all-time Met, but he wasn't a superstar. Mitch Williams, maybe.
I preordered anyway.
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Robin ventura was my favorite player... So him
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@TheGoaler_MLBTS I don’t think they can top Beltran, but they don’t have to. I just hope it’s not that Pujols card. Going from arguably the best reward we’ve ever had to the worst in a year without many exciting new features will be rough.
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For me it's Juan Gonzalez. It's literally the reason i skip on DD every year and play Franchise instead. Being able to create some of those iconic Texas lineups from the 90's is just too much fun. No offense to DD though it looks promising this year and with Pujols back i may just cave and play the mode. Unfortunately Texas isn't well represented. Sorry Kinsler & Young not the Rangers legends I am looking for. Other needle mover names would be Canseco, Belle, of course Arod, Bonds. Either way you can guarentee ill be creating these players on night one of early release. It's a win win either way when ya just love the history of baseball.
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@DrBear100_PSN I could not care less about Kirby Puckett and unsubstantiated 25 year old allegations. These things have nothing to do with baseball. I get not putting say Wander Franco in the game and Alomar because his ban probably prevents them from using him, but some of these guys they are avoiding are clearly political.
I mean, 'unsubstantiated allegations' is sugarcoating it a bit. he was acquitted in a court case, but both his wife and mistress had calls to the police about him as well.
Now that I think of it, Lofton I believe sent certain pics. Not defending that, but I wouldn't be shocked if he finds his way back in. But we don't even have the budget version of him (Juan Pierre) in game either as its not a popular archetype. Kenny Lofton has a far higher career WAR than I bet most of us realize though
But all of these cases are speculation (well besides Alomar really), for all we know SDS contacted Puckett's estate and they said no. And they contacted Lofton and got back something that looks like some ranked team logos I have seen
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@Teak2112_MLBTS That’s not what happened with Puckett. He came back in 21 with an 89 at launch. People criticized them because of that controversy. He didn’t get another card and he was gone the following year.
