Market Inflation!!!
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I think the issue isn’t that the gate keepers are expensive, they’re supposed to be. It’s that they keep rising, and not by like 10k, but by like 50-100k. Most of us will never pull shohei and even if we open a lot of packs, however the grind just keeps getting harder. Mentally if you know he’s 450k and you know you have to grind to get that, you do what you have to, the problem is how it’s just keeps inflating, so you get the 450k and now he’s 600k, and this makes grinding feel like you’re doing nothing but chores and not enjoying the game.
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@Jcassaro44_MLBTS The problem was that people are getting less packs at the end of the 2nd inning AND having the attributes update, where lots of players made a lot of stubs. That leads to more stubs in circulation, which leads to higher prices … We will have more rare guys come the weekend-classics and 3rd inning… also wait out the end of the multiplayer program, where many players will get a 50 bundle … Right now the best advice is to stay calm and save your stubs. Right now this is just too many variables at once.
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Yes, that’s a huge part of it. The solution is simply releasing more of the gate keepers in packs to bring the prices back down into a reasonable range.
That doesn’t mean just giving out more free packs in game because all know the current odds are we have almost no chance of pulling them. Unless they release some packs with guaranteed high diamonds.
Otherwise the odds need to be increased drastically to get people engaged again. Bump diamonds to 8%, at least temporarily, like they do late in the game cycle. Put those high diamonds in at least 1 in 50 to 1 in 75 packs minimum and I guarantee it would go a long way.
Feeling like the grind is pointless and hopeless is not the way to go for the long term viability of the game.
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This is crazy. I thought I overpaid for Judge at 230K but his price tag is now ridiculous. Ohtani’s too.
There’s no way I’ll grind DQ to 550K stubs. Something has to be done.
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The prices will come down when better cards get released
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I think a simple solution to atleast stop prices going up is to do a 90+ LS choice pack and make it no sell. This does not allow everyone to get the LS completed but it does reduce the demand for some of those cards. It also stops people from cashing by sell these guys for huge stubs and SDS might make money because of it because it would take stubs out of the market or atleast spread those stubs around.
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@mubby_33_PSN said in Market Inflation!!!:
I think a simple solution to atleast stop prices going up is to do a 90+ LS choice pack and make it no sell. This does not allow everyone to get the LS completed but it does reduce the demand for some of those cards. It also stops people from cashing by sell these guys for huge stubs and SDS might make money because of it because it would take stubs out of the market or atleast spread those stubs around.
Won't work. What if you only need one 90+ and you get a non-sellable dupe?
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@macdaddy-o_PSN 100%, this is the latest i havent had LS done. I still need the 1 card. i'm closer to Scott Rolan stub wise than i am Beltran. Thats a joke, especially since its 1 card that i need.
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@x-814-x-MAFIA-x_PSN Make it a choice pack. MUT does this all the time. Give you 3 90 LS Diamonds you pick one. Now maybe you dont get the one you need but since others are getting theirs it freezes demand on that one card you need and the prices decrease or atleast stop going up. Hardest part like others have said is grinding to get the stubs to buy a card only to find that the price of that card has increase 25% to 50%.
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@GooseOnEm_PSN Well no LS card should be that high. In the past some of the tougher 99's have been a million plus stubs (99 Trout and Randy a couple of years ago, OR if you fail to get a card when its out and buy him later when its not available then i get it. Last year there were 3 cards i need to get every card in the game, Gallo, Newhouser and Bregman, all-star cards i had to put buy orders of 500k in. Those are rare examples. Bottomline, SDS increased the value of Ohtani, limited diamond pulls in packs and flooded the market with non-diamonds making their value basically quick sell, minus a few, all to force people to buy stubs not earn them. Stay the course. Do not give them money.
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Its supply and demand
Demand is higher because of power creep
Supply is lower not because 'packs suck' (anymore than they did in past years) but that there are much less of themIn theory this is fine, LS should be a mid season goal not an April/May thing..however they kept last years extremely player unfriendly model for spotlight (these cards should be free and its insulting they arent) and having chase packs every week.
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@Lord-Oimak_MLBTS said in Market Inflation!!!:
@macdaddy-o_PSN 100%, this is the latest i havent had LS done. I still need the 1 card. i'm closer to Scott Rolan stub wise than i am Beltran. Thats a joke, especially since it’s 1 card that i need.
I just got Beltran last night NMS, but the pack gods absolutely blessed me this year. Pulled Ohtani, Witt, Soto, and many other diamonds without buying a single pack in the pack shop or any stubs. Had to buy Judge, Ramirez, and Trout from the marketplace and that was only manageable because of my investments with the roster update. I can’t imagine doing the collections without having pulled Ohtani and Witt.
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@solidsnake_222_PSN said in Market Inflation!!!:
@Lord-Oimak_MLBTS said in Market Inflation!!!:
@macdaddy-o_PSN 100%, this is the latest i havent had LS done. I still need the 1 card. i'm closer to Scott Rolan stub wise than i am Beltran. Thats a joke, especially since it’s 1 card that i need.
I just got Beltran last night NMS, but the pack gods absolutely blessed me this year. Pulled Ohtani, Witt, Soto, and many other diamonds without buying a single pack in the pack shop or any stubs. Had to buy Judge, Ramirez, and Trout from the marketplace and that was only manageable because of my investments with the roster update. I can’t imagine doing the collections without having pulled Ohtani and Witt.
I never pulled either of them and am NMS with LS completed. I pulled Judge twice along with a bunch of other higher diamonds.
But I grind A LOT of packs though.
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@solidsnake_222_PSN I wish i was that lucky. I pulled Skenes and Skubal. I pulled a few other lower diamonds, but had to buy Judge, Witt, Marte, JRam, Soto, and Trout. I also pulled Tatis, but at the time his sell value wasnt what it is today. I had 400k Stubs when Ohtani was 380, and decided to complete other collections first...man do i regret that decision lol. Oh well it is what it is. I'm to the point now i'm playing Oblivion, as i've lost the will to grind for breadcrumbs. Like i said i'm 200k from Rolen, needing Topps now (6) and the award cards (7).
2 weeks ago i opened like 200 different packs and got 3 diamonds (i already had them) Jrod, Altuve, and Egg Boggs. after i sold all the dups, i made like 30k....
Yesterday i completed the Online got the 50 pack and Chase, DQ got Josh Jung, and the 2 new Conquest maps...i pulled 3 diamonds in around 125 packs, One was Chris Sale from the Chase Pack, the other 2, Don Sutton (who i needed and completed 2nd half heros) and Gunner Henderson. I made roughly 40k from those pulls.
I can only imagine pack luck will increase per inning, as i'd like to believe the idea is the slow crawl, meaning it will be easier to get the 99's as we go. But SDS needs to just say that. To be fair i'll save packs if thats the case.
i'm losing interest at this point. I love the show, but with 3 kids in baseball, a job, and a mortgage, i'm not wasting time grinding.
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@sbchamps17_NSW said in Market Inflation!!!:
The prices will come down when better cards get released
That is - besides „You do not have to complete LS early May“ - the most important piece of information !
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When you allow quick sell value to change on cards already owned by players instead of keeping it static to the value at the time the card was acquired, roster updates like this last one dump likely more than 100 million stubs (probably closer to a billion than a million) into circulation instantaneously without any gameplay or effort. If they kept it static, people could only benefit from “investing” by selling the cards in the marketplace to people actually buying them (which wouldn’t create stubs, just transfer them).
If they made this change, it would substantially benefit NMS overall because you wouldn’t see the market inflation constantly occurring every roster update. However, if they made it, the small portion of the player base that obsesses over “investing” would be the most vocal, whiny people in the world, calling SDS greedy when it’s a change that would benefit people that just want to actually play the game instead of a stock market simulator.
Even now, instead of people in here properly criticizing the stock market simulators for ruining the game for them and asking SDS to change this practice… it’s just people acting like this is some sort of conspiracy from SDS to inflate the market and make you buy stubs.
It isn’t. It’s that you keep blaming SDS, such that SDS cannot win no matter what it does, instead of blaming the stock market simulators and the respective content creators that demand the right every year to screw you.
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I don’t care who is responsible I just care about the end effect which is spoiling the game and making me want to walk away. As someone posted above I’m a busy guy with a full time job where I can’t sit at a desk and play the game non stop. I have a wife and son and help coach. Living on the game isn’t an option for me and it’s turned into that or being a content creator.
The game has slowly been systematically ruined for casual players looking to just have a good time and chill after a long, hard, day.
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@solidsnake_222_PSN said in Market Inflation!!!:
@Lord-Oimak_MLBTS said in Market Inflation!!!:
@macdaddy-o_PSN 100%, this is the latest i havent had LS done. I still need the 1 card. i'm closer to Scott Rolan stub wise than i am Beltran. Thats a joke, especially since it’s 1 card that i need.
I just got Beltran last night NMS, but the pack gods absolutely blessed me this year. Pulled Ohtani, Witt, Soto, and many other diamonds without buying a single pack in the pack shop or any stubs. Had to buy Judge, Ramirez, and Trout from the marketplace and that was only manageable because of my investments with the roster update. I can’t imagine doing the collections without having pulled Ohtani and Witt.
I can tell you. Since I didn’t pull any of the big guys (Still need Ohtani).
I grinded DQ so much that I’m ready to take a break due to burnout, and still didn’t get Ohtani because when I was on my way to him SDS updated the max value of 90+ LS and his price jumped from 370ish to 580ish.
It is a nightmare
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a NOTE TO FUTURE ME:
Opening night: Take the bonus stubs from buying early, drop a few bucks on some stubs. Buy Ohtani opening night. Dont buy a STUPID BUNDLE AND WASTE YOUR MONEY. (i've done this for the past 3 opening nights, being excited) Buy Ohtani/Judge opening night and move on with life, it will make LS collection at least 35% easier.
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My buggest problem with not finishing the live series collection is I’d like to use some of the team collection cards like Witt Merrifield,Darren Oday,etc. By the time I finish them they’ll probably be irrelevant. Most of the new cards that are coming out now are already rated higher than them. I thought I would be able to finish the National League collection last Friday but Ohtani jumped up 200k. With my pack luck and difficulty to flip for stubs this year it’s looking like it’s going to be a long grind. Not sure how many times I can play Diamond Quest and Mini Season before I’m completely burned out.
