Sets for the rest of the year
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@maurice91932_PSN said in Sets for the rest of the year:
I agree with Bleeder and Oreo. Fewer people are playing. It isn’t hard to tell. The company has the data for sure, but just looking at how long it takes to get matched in a game tells me fewer people are playing.
I’m sure sets and never getting the feeling of accomplishment (because there is simply too much to do) has led to the decline. And I’ve posted about this before but I truly believe the number one factor leading to the decline is difficulty of gameplay.
This is a hard game, man. Pitch speeds are freaking crazy. PCI placement and swing timing have to be [censored] near perfect on a consistent basis to put up any real offensive numbers. Sure, bloop hits exist. But you all know what I’m talking about. Only goons kill it in this game.
A lot of guys have made peace with the difficulty and that’s great for them. They suck, but they’ve convinced themselves that they don’t, and that their inability to produce at the plate “is just baseball.”
My RS record is something like 117-66 or something, so I’m winning games. This isn’t about that. I’m not saying this as a complaint. I’m saying it as an objective fact: this game is hard to play. But if you’re good at the game, congrats. You’re excelling at something most people can’t.
I was expressing my difficulties with this game on discord, and a guy in there said, “Well, do you go into practice mode and warm up?”
I said, “I warm up when I play sports for real. Not when I play a video game.”
The fact that I have heard multiple people say that “warming up” by going into practice mode is necessary for them before they go into a competitive mode IN A VIDEO GAME is all the proof we need that this game is too hard.
People will come on here and tell me I’m unreasonable; that I should warm up. Like it’s normal or a perfectly legitimate expectation for video game users. Maybe it is, and I’m just old school. But I think if that’s the requirement, the game is too hard.
You’re playing another person. Do you expect to win every game?
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@capardo_XBL said in Sets for the rest of the year:
Just one guy as well…
For me, it is the overwhelming number of cards needed for the Collections.
Making TA 3 and TA 4 “musts” in order to finish Set 3 and 4 collections was an extremely bad call, IMO. I mean, I think I have about 3 TA 4 cards right now. I’m still 30-ish cards short for TA 3. It is simply an overwhelming grind.
So, I play less, not more
I’m hoping SDS sees that I’m not the only one and addresses this at some point going forward. (If they need suggestions, I have a few…
)Cards. I was thinking about this while getting ready this morning.
I think packs are another issue, at least for me, for losing interest in the game. I don't care what's in them anymore. I have only one collection completely finished, the starter collection. I have only three cards left for the LS collection, but I refuse to "buy" them. This year, I have had to buy at least 90% of the diamonds for the LS collection. I'm tired of it and opening packs has become mundane (do you hear that @BxnnyMxn__PSN - mundane
) and boring.When the year began, the thing I wanted most was the LS collection McGwire. Within a month, I was almost 50% done with the AL collection. Since then, I've completed 50% more. It's too much work to complete the collections, whether you have to flip the market or earn as many packs as possible to get the needed cards.
Now, I don't even care if I get the collection cards. I am one card away from getting Sosa (Mookie), and I don't care. I am not spending those kinds of stubs on a card just to say I have the collection card. It doesn't matter anymore. And I certainly don't care about the grand prize Jeter card.
When I am more interested in cataloging the cards I get from packs rather than ripping through them to get the diamond I need, what does that say about me? About the game?
The packs are boring. Whether it's regular, BIAH, specialty, Chase, or whatever, they are boring. The prizes aren't obtainable enough to care anymore.
Personally, I feel the packs are just as responsible as the sets and seasons for feeling like I'm back in the 70s when it comes to my attitude and the game. (If you weren't alive then, you won't understand - and I'm not talking about the parties or the music, because those were awesome...I'm talking about the attitude of the rising generation).
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@fubar2k7_PSN said in Sets for the rest of the year:
You’re playing another person. Do you expect to win every game?
I’m not going to reply with sarcasm or be snarky, but no, I don’t expect to win every game, and I thought I explained it clearly enough.
Let me put it another way: there are too many games with a score of 2-1 and not enough games that are 6-5. It doesn’t matter who wins. That isn’t what I’m talking about.
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@maurice91932_PSN said in Sets for the rest of the year:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in Sets for the rest of the year:
You’re playing another person. Do you expect to win every game?
I’m not going to reply with sarcasm or be snarky, but no, I don’t expect to win every game, and I thought I explained it clearly enough.
Let me put it another way: there are too many games with a score of 2-1 and not enough games that are 6-5. It doesn’t matter who wins. That isn’t what I’m talking about.
Everything you say makes sense but why throw in the amazing record if it’s not a complaint. I’m 17-20.
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@fubar2k7_PSN said in Sets for the rest of the year:
@Oreo-Thomas_XBL said in Sets for the rest of the year:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in Sets for the rest of the year:
@SickBuffGuFB_PSN said in Sets for the rest of the year:
It’s no secret that the game is slowing down as far as players and gameplay, I personally don’t have the motivation to grind for another set of cards for set 5! With that said SDS could say hey you can keep one card from set 1-4 as wildcards that way you still get fresh lineups and can keep some of your favorites along the way. It’s not too late SDS
How do you know it’s slowing down? I only know how much I play and you only know how much you play.
Not hard to figure out, look at how many people are playing events and making WS ( easy info to obtain). Also, watch the market for sold cards.
This is by far the earliest I have seen the huge part of the player base abandon the game ( happened a couple months ago for most part).
I have always been one of their hardcore players, playing all the way to the new version. I’m just can’t do it. For example, I have booted the game up 3x over the last week and literally stared at it and turned it off. I just don’t enjoy what they have done and can’t bring myself to play.
Show the info you easily obtained. At its peak only ~200 people played this game online on PSN. There are approximately 4 times more PS4 and PS5 consoles on the market than XBox One and XBox X/S so I’m being generous to say there were probably another ~100 playing online for Microsoft. Now you playing it less means you’re playing it less not everyone is playing it less. 🥱
Show your info or go away. You said nothing substantial.
Boy, for a guy who is usually fairly cool, not your best day…
All you have to do is go into the current event records or the current RS season to see player activity.
At its peak, there were well over 100k to 300k people playing the events. This one has 23,000 that have played. Last one was similar.
You can do similar math for RS….
But to your last point, when guys like me who have been on here for years that typically play year round are saying they aren’t really playing ( add in guys like Ibonafidescrub, ARVCPA, Roswell25, and I could go on and on), SDS has made some wrong turns.
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@maurice91932_PSN said in Sets for the rest of the year:
I agree with Bleeder and Oreo. Fewer people are playing. It isn’t hard to tell. The company has the data for sure, but just looking at how long it takes to get matched in a game tells me fewer people are playing.
I’m sure sets and never getting the feeling of accomplishment (because there is simply too much to do) has led to the decline. And I’ve posted about this before but I truly believe the number one factor leading to the decline is difficulty of gameplay.
This is a hard game, man. Pitch speeds are freaking crazy. PCI placement and swing timing have to be [censored] near perfect on a consistent basis to put up any real offensive numbers. Sure, bloop hits exist. But you all know what I’m talking about. Only goons kill it in this game.
A lot of guys have made peace with the difficulty and that’s great for them. They suck, but they’ve convinced themselves that they don’t, and that their inability to produce at the plate “is just baseball.”
My RS record is something like 117-66 or something, so I’m winning games. This isn’t about that. I’m not saying this as a complaint. I’m saying it as an objective fact: this game is hard to play. But if you’re good at the game, congrats. You’re excelling at something most people can’t.
I was expressing my difficulties with this game on discord, and a guy in there said, “Well, do you go into practice mode and warm up?”
I said, “I warm up when I play sports for real. Not when I play a video game.”
The fact that I have heard multiple people say that “warming up” by going into practice mode is necessary for them before they go into a competitive mode IN A VIDEO GAME is all the proof we need that this game is too hard.
People will come on here and tell me I’m unreasonable; that I should warm up. Like it’s normal or a perfectly legitimate expectation for video game users. Maybe it is, and I’m just old school. But I think if that’s the requirement, the game is too hard.
Very easy to tell that the game has slowed down, died off, whatever ya wanna say it. Takes longer to find games, activitie on the forums, reddit and social media has slowed. Cant even find the game on gamepass its so buried. All things showing a game slowing down. Its ok, its normal, happens every year to a annual sports title like this. Just this year the game suks more then usual is all
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@maurice91932_PSN said in Sets for the rest of the year:
@chucky97____PSN said in Sets for the rest of the year:
@maurice91932_PSN said in Sets for the rest of the year:
its your wildcard, use it how you want, but a using it on a bullpen arm is wild.I just played a game where I switched out Chapman and put Realmuto in as my wild card. First at-bat: homer. Opponent quit shortly thereafter. I might be changing my strategy…Haha
Lol, I stopped putting stock into pen arms, they all get rocked
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@fubar2k7_PSN said in Sets for the rest of the year:
Everything you say makes sense but why throw in the amazing record if it’s not a complaint. I’m 17-20.
I threw in the record to drive home the point that it isn’t a win/lose thing.
And I am still playing this game. Frequently. I have played DD for a long time. My assessment, arrived at through years of experience: is that the game has gotten progressively more difficult to produce runs. It isn’t a complaint so much as a statement of facts. These are confirmed in SDS’ own comments:
FACT: Pitch speeds have been increased the last several years.
FACT: PCI placement is more important in getting good results.
FACT: PPP pitching has allowed users to better control where the ball goes (not saying it’s a bad thing. Saying it makes hitting more difficult).
I am sure there are more things. I’m just saying: I am playing this game and playing a lot. I am winning more than I lose and, most of the time, I have fun.
People are talking about how fewer people are playing, and offering ideas as to why. I offered my idea as to why, which is not a personal complaint on how I enjoy or don’t enjoy the game.
They made a hard game harder. That’s why I think fewer people are playing. That’s it.
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@maurice91932_PSN said in Sets for the rest of the year:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in Sets for the rest of the year:
Everything you say makes sense but why throw in the amazing record if it’s not a complaint. I’m 17-20.
I threw in the record to drive home the point that it isn’t a win/lose thing.
And I am still playing this game. Frequently. I have played DD for a long time. My assessment, arrived at through years of experience: is that the game has gotten progressively more difficult to produce runs. It isn’t a complaint so much as a statement of facts. These are confirmed in SDS’ own comments:
FACT: Pitch speeds have been increased the last several years.
FACT: PCI placement is more important in getting good results.
FACT: PPP pitching has allowed users to better control where the ball goes (not saying it’s a bad thing. Saying it makes hitting more difficult).
I am sure there are more things. I’m just saying: I am playing this game and playing a lot. I am winning more than I lose and, most of the time, I have fun.
People are talking about how fewer people are playing, and offering ideas as to why. I offered my idea as to why, which is not a personal complaint on how I enjoy or don’t enjoy the game.
They made a hard game harder. That’s why I think fewer people are playing. That’s it.
DD has become an arcade mode for casual fans which is why everyone throws over 100. I don’t play that mode exclusively perhaps that’s why I don’t think the game is dying.
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@Oreo-Thomas_XBL said in Sets for the rest of the year:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in Sets for the rest of the year:
@Oreo-Thomas_XBL said in Sets for the rest of the year:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in Sets for the rest of the year:
@SickBuffGuFB_PSN said in Sets for the rest of the year:
It’s no secret that the game is slowing down as far as players and gameplay, I personally don’t have the motivation to grind for another set of cards for set 5! With that said SDS could say hey you can keep one card from set 1-4 as wildcards that way you still get fresh lineups and can keep some of your favorites along the way. It’s not too late SDS
How do you know it’s slowing down? I only know how much I play and you only know how much you play.
Not hard to figure out, look at how many people are playing events and making WS ( easy info to obtain). Also, watch the market for sold cards.
This is by far the earliest I have seen the huge part of the player base abandon the game ( happened a couple months ago for most part).
I have always been one of their hardcore players, playing all the way to the new version. I’m just can’t do it. For example, I have booted the game up 3x over the last week and literally stared at it and turned it off. I just don’t enjoy what they have done and can’t bring myself to play.
Show the info you easily obtained. At its peak only ~200 people played this game online on PSN. There are approximately 4 times more PS4 and PS5 consoles on the market than XBox One and XBox X/S so I’m being generous to say there were probably another ~100 playing online for Microsoft. Now you playing it less means you’re playing it less not everyone is playing it less. 🥱
Show your info or go away. You said nothing substantial.
Boy, for a guy who is usually fairly cool, not your best day…
All you have to do is go into the current event records or the current RS season to see player activity.
At its peak, there were well over 100k to 300k people playing the events. This one has 23,000 that have played. Last one was similar.
You can do similar math for RS….
But to your last point, when guys like me who have been on here for years that typically play year round are saying they aren’t really playing ( add in guys like Ibonafidescrub, ARVCPA, Roswell25, and I could go on and on), SDS has made some wrong turns.
Then I stand corrected. Thank you for leading me where I asked. I don’t play events and only played 37 online games. To me these aren’t obvious places to look. That’s all he had to say and I could’ve checked there for the rankings. I assumed I could Google some website for data he deemed obvious.
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@maurice91932_PSN said in Sets for the rest of the year:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in Sets for the rest of the year:
Everything you say makes sense but why throw in the amazing record if it’s not a complaint. I’m 17-20.
I threw in the record to drive home the point that it isn’t a win/lose thing.
And I am still playing this game. Frequently. I have played DD for a long time. My assessment, arrived at through years of experience: is that the game has gotten progressively more difficult to produce runs. It isn’t a complaint so much as a statement of facts. These are confirmed in SDS’ own comments:
FACT: Pitch speeds have been increased the last several years.
FACT: PCI placement is more important in getting good results.
FACT: PPP pitching has allowed users to better control where the ball goes (not saying it’s a bad thing. Saying it makes hitting more difficult).
I am sure there are more things. I’m just saying: I am playing this game and playing a lot. I am winning more than I lose and, most of the time, I have fun.
People are talking about how fewer people are playing, and offering ideas as to why. I offered my idea as to why, which is not a personal complaint on how I enjoy or don’t enjoy the game.
They made a hard game harder. That’s why I think fewer people are playing. That’s it.
Need anymore evidence DD is a joke besides guys like Crawford being a RP stud check out the 99 Waino DH/1B card.
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@Oreo-Thomas_XBL said in Sets for the rest of the year:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in Sets for the rest of the year:
@Oreo-Thomas_XBL said in Sets for the rest of the year:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in Sets for the rest of the year:
@SickBuffGuFB_PSN said in Sets for the rest of the year:
It’s no secret that the game is slowing down as far as players and gameplay, I personally don’t have the motivation to grind for another set of cards for set 5! With that said SDS could say hey you can keep one card from set 1-4 as wildcards that way you still get fresh lineups and can keep some of your favorites along the way. It’s not too late SDS
How do you know it’s slowing down? I only know how much I play and you only know how much you play.
Not hard to figure out, look at how many people are playing events and making WS ( easy info to obtain). Also, watch the market for sold cards.
This is by far the earliest I have seen the huge part of the player base abandon the game ( happened a couple months ago for most part).
I have always been one of their hardcore players, playing all the way to the new version. I’m just can’t do it. For example, I have booted the game up 3x over the last week and literally stared at it and turned it off. I just don’t enjoy what they have done and can’t bring myself to play.
Show the info you easily obtained. At its peak only ~200 people played this game online on PSN. There are approximately 4 times more PS4 and PS5 consoles on the market than XBox One and XBox X/S so I’m being generous to say there were probably another ~100 playing online for Microsoft. Now you playing it less means you’re playing it less not everyone is playing it less. 🥱
Show your info or go away. You said nothing substantial.
Boy, for a guy who is usually fairly cool, not your best day…
All you have to do is go into the current event records or the current RS season to see player activity.
At its peak, there were well over 100k to 300k people playing the events. This one has 23,000 that have played. Last one was similar.
You can do similar math for RS….
But to your last point, when guys like me who have been on here for years that typically play year round are saying they aren’t really playing ( add in guys like Ibonafidescrub, ARVCPA, Roswell25, and I could go on and on), SDS has made some wrong turns.
Fubar2k7 is far from cool on here. He admittedly plays the game all day every day while his girlfriend and best friend work so he thinks that somehow makes him an authority figure on the game or that he can speak for the masses. You don’t need to look far to see the glaring issues people have with the game. Although gameplay has stepped up, a lot of other things have stepped back and it has been echoed countless times by long time players of this game. If you raise a concern that fubar2k7 disagrees with he will tear you down and demand the research to back it up. Chill out dude, it’s a game that others are allowed to voice their opinions and frustrations on. The fact you somehow take it personally just because it makes up such a huge part on your daily life is nobody’s fault but yours. In the end you are no better than anybody else on here so instead of trolling others nonstop just try to see things from others point of view every once in a while.
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@TripleH-4481_PSN said in Sets for the rest of the year:
@Oreo-Thomas_XBL said in Sets for the rest of the year:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in Sets for the rest of the year:
@Oreo-Thomas_XBL said in Sets for the rest of the year:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in Sets for the rest of the year:
@SickBuffGuFB_PSN said in Sets for the rest of the year:
It’s no secret that the game is slowing down as far as players and gameplay, I personally don’t have the motivation to grind for another set of cards for set 5! With that said SDS could say hey you can keep one card from set 1-4 as wildcards that way you still get fresh lineups and can keep some of your favorites along the way. It’s not too late SDS
How do you know it’s slowing down? I only know how much I play and you only know how much you play.
Not hard to figure out, look at how many people are playing events and making WS ( easy info to obtain). Also, watch the market for sold cards.
This is by far the earliest I have seen the huge part of the player base abandon the game ( happened a couple months ago for most part).
I have always been one of their hardcore players, playing all the way to the new version. I’m just can’t do it. For example, I have booted the game up 3x over the last week and literally stared at it and turned it off. I just don’t enjoy what they have done and can’t bring myself to play.
Show the info you easily obtained. At its peak only ~200 people played this game online on PSN. There are approximately 4 times more PS4 and PS5 consoles on the market than XBox One and XBox X/S so I’m being generous to say there were probably another ~100 playing online for Microsoft. Now you playing it less means you’re playing it less not everyone is playing it less. 🥱
Show your info or go away. You said nothing substantial.
Boy, for a guy who is usually fairly cool, not your best day…
All you have to do is go into the current event records or the current RS season to see player activity.
At its peak, there were well over 100k to 300k people playing the events. This one has 23,000 that have played. Last one was similar.
You can do similar math for RS….
But to your last point, when guys like me who have been on here for years that typically play year round are saying they aren’t really playing ( add in guys like Ibonafidescrub, ARVCPA, Roswell25, and I could go on and on), SDS has made some wrong turns.
Fubar2k7 is far from cool on here. He admittedly plays the game all day every day while his girlfriend and best friend work so he thinks that somehow makes him an authority figure on the game or that he can speak for the masses. You don’t need to look far to see the glaring issues people have with the game. Although gameplay has stepped up, a lot of other things have stepped back and it has been echoed countless times by long time players of this game. If you raise a concern that fubar2k7 disagrees with he will tear you down and demand the research to back it up. Chill out dude, it’s a game that others are allowed to voice their opinions and frustrations on. The fact you somehow take it personally just because it makes up such a huge part on your daily life is nobody’s fault but yours. In the end you are no better than anybody else on here so instead of trolling others nonstop just try to see things from others point of view every once in a while.
I admitted I was wrong when I was directed appropriately. Don’t just make a blanket statement and assume everyone is going to buy it. I’ll freely admit when I’m wrong and own it. I was wrong.
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I meant we should be able to get a WC from set 1-3 as in 3 total cards, it would make the game more fun! Honestly it’s too much of a grind right now to keep up with the sets
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@maurice91932_PSN said in Sets for the rest of the year:
@TheHungryHole said in Sets for the rest of the year:
most of us on here have real life which supersedes all gaming - who wants to collect multiple sets - it feels like a kind of battlepass EA sports idea - horrible execution and SDS is just being typical SDS
It’s overwhelming. They should have made the collection rewards Core cards. All the other cards in the TA could be sets, but Babe Ruth, David Wright, Jose Ramirez, etc, should be Core.
i hear ya but on a more important note - how are you brother?!!?! great to see you still on this forum one of the last few left from the ole group !!!
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@SickBuffGuFB_PSN said in Sets for the rest of the year:
It’s no secret that the game is slowing down as far as players and gameplay, I personally don’t have the motivation to grind for another set of cards for set 5! With that said SDS could say hey you can keep one card from set 1-4 as wildcards that way you still get fresh lineups and can keep some of your favorites along the way. It’s not too late SDS
I abandoned the game in July and I have never done that before. I usually play until January. But the format of cards rotating out and having to grind over and over for mostly the same cards with slightly different stats sucks. Also, instead of 50 or so good cards we have hundreds of mediocre cards. Not fun for me. Grinding for 95's and 97's this late in the year does not inspire me to start playing again either.
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@TheHungryHole said in Sets for the rest of the year:
i hear ya but on a more important note - how are you brother?!!?! great to see you still on this forum one of the last few left from the ole group !!!
I am peachy, my friend. Hope you are as well. Not sure how much longer I’ll be around on this game. Too much real life stuff going on. Jan. 2024 will mark a huge, positive change for me professionally, and I just won’t be able to play nearly as much. So little, in fact, it probably wouldn’t even be worth trying to keep up with the DD grind. So this is likely my last hoorah. Let’s get on a party soon, bro.
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Maybe next year if they insist on "Sets" they could release the sets as decades or time periods so we don't get all the same guys again and again? Just a random thought
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@rageincage007_XBL said in Sets for the rest of the year:
Maybe next year if they insist on "Sets" they could release the sets as decades or time periods so we don't get all the same guys again and again? Just a random thought
They probably do the same players in order for people to constantly have those players available. If they didn’t do Bob Gibson every set he would only be usable as a Wild Card from set 1.
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I can't imagine how quickly I would get burnt out if I felt compelled to finish every program and every collection. More power to all of you who do that but it would quickly turn me off. People may scoff at my offline play, or my simple goal to get all of the good Cardinal Players but that lets me be far more relaxed in my efforts. Last weekend I finished the Career and Great Race programs and looking back I realized that they were the first I had completed since the June POTM program. For the Sept POTM I did one moment yesterday to get Jack Flaherty. I don't feel compelled to continue it if I don't want to.
That said, I am still not a huge fan of sets and seasons, at least the way they are currently implemented. I expect we might see some tweaks to formula next year but I don't expect them to go away, unless SDS just decided it was too much work for too little return. But I highly doubt that is an issue since people are obsessed with finishing everything.
