Is online gameplay really that awful?

SDS

I’ve been playing The Show for years and I’m not usually one to complain, but online gameplay feels more inconsistent than ever to me. Overall the game has just been yucky so far.

Have y’all liked online gameplay so far or are y’all having similar experiences?

SDS

Pinpoint on anything harder than all star is impossible. The fact that a perfect release on keuchels number one pitch has a PAR the size of a dinner plate leaves way to much room for rng.

Even if there isnt rng you can't blame people for thinking that way, I mean what decides where in the PAR your perfect pitch ends up? I think that would be the score. Winning- your pitches get forced away from where you want. Losing- your pitches land closer to where you want.

SDS

Its incredibly inconsistent. The one year SDS doesn't release a month 1 hitting patch is the year we all want it most.

SDS

@daddydingerz_psn said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

I’ve been playing The Show for years and I’m not usually one to complain, but online gameplay feels more inconsistent than ever to me. Overall the game has just been yucky so far.

Have y’all liked online gameplay so far or are y’all having similar experiences?

It’s down there with 18. Thing is I like some of the ball physics as it’s better than 20 and 21. But they also brought back the magnet down the middle pitch from 20 and 18’s good/good flyouts. It’s a hybrid of the some of the worst aspects of past games. If they just fixed some bugs and exploits on 17 wed literally have the best game possible.

SDS

@chrono_omega_psn said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

@daddydingerz_psn said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

I’ve been playing The Show for years and I’m not usually one to complain, but online gameplay feels more inconsistent than ever to me. Overall the game has just been yucky so far.

Have y’all liked online gameplay so far or are y’all having similar experiences?

It’s down there with 18. Thing is I like some of the ball physics as it’s better than 20 and 21. But they also brought back the magnet down the middle pitch from 20 and 18’s good/good flyouts. It’s a hybrid of the some of the worst aspects of past games. If they just fixed some bugs and exploits on 17 wed literally have the best game possible.

This. Online game play is horrid. It is like you aren't supposed to hit the ball in the pci with good timing. Makes no sense. I can hit 6 balls with good timing inside the pci and hit a HR not touching.

Pinpoint is terrible. Ball gravitates toward the middle a lot and perfect pitches miss the PAR.

Perfect pitches should be in the PAR and good timing swings should produce way more hits.

SDS

@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

@chrono_omega_psn said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

@daddydingerz_psn said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

I’ve been playing The Show for years and I’m not usually one to complain, but online gameplay feels more inconsistent than ever to me. Overall the game has just been yucky so far.

Have y’all liked online gameplay so far or are y’all having similar experiences?

It’s down there with 18. Thing is I like some of the ball physics as it’s better than 20 and 21. But they also brought back the magnet down the middle pitch from 20 and 18’s good/good flyouts. It’s a hybrid of the some of the worst aspects of past games. If they just fixed some bugs and exploits on 17 wed literally have the best game possible.

This. Online game play is horrid. It is like you aren't supposed to hit the ball in the pci with good timing. Makes no sense. I can hit 6 balls with good timing inside the pci and hit a HR not touching.

Pinpoint is terrible. Ball gravitates toward the middle a lot and perfect pitches miss the PAR.

Perfect pitches should be in the PAR and good timing swings should produce way more hits.

you want pinpoint like last year back?? No thank you, i like the fact pitches are hung. Last year was so miserable with pinpoint, commons could dot you u, this year its actually fixed.

SDS

@guccigangchuck said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

@chrono_omega_psn said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

@daddydingerz_psn said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

I’ve been playing The Show for years and I’m not usually one to complain, but online gameplay feels more inconsistent than ever to me. Overall the game has just been yucky so far.

Have y’all liked online gameplay so far or are y’all having similar experiences?

It’s down there with 18. Thing is I like some of the ball physics as it’s better than 20 and 21. But they also brought back the magnet down the middle pitch from 20 and 18’s good/good flyouts. It’s a hybrid of the some of the worst aspects of past games. If they just fixed some bugs and exploits on 17 wed literally have the best game possible.

This. Online game play is horrid. It is like you aren't supposed to hit the ball in the pci with good timing. Makes no sense. I can hit 6 balls with good timing inside the pci and hit a HR not touching.

Pinpoint is terrible. Ball gravitates toward the middle a lot and perfect pitches miss the PAR.

Perfect pitches should be in the PAR and good timing swings should produce way more hits.

you want pinpoint like last year back?? No thank you, i like the fact pitches are hung. Last year was so miserable with pinpoint, commons could dot you u, this year its actually fixed.

No but I don't want perfect pitches to go outside the PAR. Also, every miss should not gravitate down the middle.

SDS

@guccigangchuck said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

@chrono_omega_psn said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

@daddydingerz_psn said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

I’ve been playing The Show for years and I’m not usually one to complain, but online gameplay feels more inconsistent than ever to me. Overall the game has just been yucky so far.

Have y’all liked online gameplay so far or are y’all having similar experiences?

It’s down there with 18. Thing is I like some of the ball physics as it’s better than 20 and 21. But they also brought back the magnet down the middle pitch from 20 and 18’s good/good flyouts. It’s a hybrid of the some of the worst aspects of past games. If they just fixed some bugs and exploits on 17 wed literally have the best game possible.

This. Online game play is horrid. It is like you aren't supposed to hit the ball in the pci with good timing. Makes no sense. I can hit 6 balls with good timing inside the pci and hit a HR not touching.

Pinpoint is terrible. Ball gravitates toward the middle a lot and perfect pitches miss the PAR.

Perfect pitches should be in the PAR and good timing swings should produce way more hits.

you want pinpoint like last year back?? No thank you, i like the fact pitches are hung. Last year was so miserable with pinpoint, commons could dot you u, this year its actually fixed.

I wouldn't mind it. If batters can get more non pci hits than last year, why not just add better accuracy for pitchers? It's not like it's going to make a difference. Guys will still get their bloops and blasts.

SDS

Just wait until MLB 2023, it will be better.

Features include: revamped hitting where the player has more control, all new smaller pitcher par so the user is in control. Pre-order now and get a diamond 85 Robin Roberts for use in MLB 22. And over 10,000 new animations that you still won’t notice that were added, along with two new lines of commentary.

SDS

@daddydingerz_psn said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

I’ve been playing The Show for years and I’m not usually one to complain, but online gameplay feels more inconsistent than ever to me. Overall the game has just been yucky so far.

Have y’all liked online gameplay so far or are y’all having similar experiences?

Yes. It is that awful. I’m tired of losing to idiots who get lucky hits.

SDS

@chrono_omega_psn said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

@daddydingerz_psn said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

I’ve been playing The Show for years and I’m not usually one to complain, but online gameplay feels more inconsistent than ever to me. Overall the game has just been yucky so far.

Have y’all liked online gameplay so far or are y’all having similar experiences?

It’s down there with 18. Thing is I like some of the ball physics as it’s better than 20 and 21. But they also brought back the magnet down the middle pitch from 20 and 18’s good/good flyouts. It’s a hybrid of the some of the worst aspects of past games. If they just fixed some bugs and exploits on 17 wed literally have the best game possible.

Agreed! 17 was the best! A few tweaks and it would be the best baseball game of all time!

SDS

@guccigangchuck said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

@chrono_omega_psn said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

@daddydingerz_psn said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

I’ve been playing The Show for years and I’m not usually one to complain, but online gameplay feels more inconsistent than ever to me. Overall the game has just been yucky so far.

Have y’all liked online gameplay so far or are y’all having similar experiences?

It’s down there with 18. Thing is I like some of the ball physics as it’s better than 20 and 21. But they also brought back the magnet down the middle pitch from 20 and 18’s good/good flyouts. It’s a hybrid of the some of the worst aspects of past games. If they just fixed some bugs and exploits on 17 wed literally have the best game possible.

This. Online game play is horrid. It is like you aren't supposed to hit the ball in the pci with good timing. Makes no sense. I can hit 6 balls with good timing inside the pci and hit a HR not touching.

Pinpoint is terrible. Ball gravitates toward the middle a lot and perfect pitches miss the PAR.

Perfect pitches should be in the PAR and good timing swings should produce way more hits.

you want pinpoint like last year back?? No thank you, i like the fact pitches are hung. Last year was so miserable with pinpoint, commons could dot you u, this year its actually fixed.

If I throw 99% draw perfect release on a curveball in the dirt it shouldn’t hang up in the zone. At least not if stick skills matter.

SDS

@styxxx80_xbl said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

@guccigangchuck said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

@chrono_omega_psn said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

@daddydingerz_psn said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

I’ve been playing The Show for years and I’m not usually one to complain, but online gameplay feels more inconsistent than ever to me. Overall the game has just been yucky so far.

Have y’all liked online gameplay so far or are y’all having similar experiences?

It’s down there with 18. Thing is I like some of the ball physics as it’s better than 20 and 21. But they also brought back the magnet down the middle pitch from 20 and 18’s good/good flyouts. It’s a hybrid of the some of the worst aspects of past games. If they just fixed some bugs and exploits on 17 wed literally have the best game possible.

This. Online game play is horrid. It is like you aren't supposed to hit the ball in the pci with good timing. Makes no sense. I can hit 6 balls with good timing inside the pci and hit a HR not touching.

Pinpoint is terrible. Ball gravitates toward the middle a lot and perfect pitches miss the PAR.

Perfect pitches should be in the PAR and good timing swings should produce way more hits.

you want pinpoint like last year back?? No thank you, i like the fact pitches are hung. Last year was so miserable with pinpoint, commons could dot you u, this year its actually fixed.

If I throw 99% draw perfect release on a curveball in the dirt it shouldn’t hang up in the zone. At least not if stick skills matter.

elevation plays a factor, not smart to throw curves if you're laying in a high elevated stadium.

SDS

@daddydingerz_psn said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

I’ve been playing The Show for years and I’m not usually one to complain, but online gameplay feels more inconsistent than ever to me. Overall the game has just been yucky so far.

Have y’all liked online gameplay so far or are y’all having similar experiences?

I’m playing in the 800s right now and I’m noticing some games you can’t buy a hit. Squared up balls are weak flies and everything is hit right at someone. It is honestly a joke. If you strike out two times in an entire game and are putting the ball in play statistically it should be impossible to have the outcomes I’ve been noticing some games.

Start a new match and hit two bombs in the first inning with worse pci placement than some of your weak flies the previous weird game. It makes no sense honestly.

SDS

@hoffsdrawlar_psn said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

Just wait until MLB 2023, it will be better.

Features include: revamped hitting where the player has more control, all new smaller pitcher par so the user is in control. Pre-order now and get a diamond 85 Robin Roberts for use in MLB 22. And over 10,000 new animations that you still won’t notice that were added, along with two new lines of commentary.

We will all be dead before they get it right.

SDS

@codywolfgang_xbl said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

@daddydingerz_psn said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

I’ve been playing The Show for years and I’m not usually one to complain, but online gameplay feels more inconsistent than ever to me. Overall the game has just been yucky so far.

Have y’all liked online gameplay so far or are y’all having similar experiences?

I’m playing in the 800s right now and I’m noticing some games you can’t buy a hit. Squared up balls are weak flies and everything is hit right at someone. It is honestly a joke. If you strike out two times in an entire game and are putting the ball in play statistically it should be impossible to have the outcomes I’ve been noticing some games.

Start a new match and hit two bombs in the first inning with worse pci placement than some of your weak flies the previous weird game. It makes no sense honestly.

Welcome to the party. Little late but you got here.

SDS

@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

@codywolfgang_xbl said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

@daddydingerz_psn said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

I’ve been playing The Show for years and I’m not usually one to complain, but online gameplay feels more inconsistent than ever to me. Overall the game has just been yucky so far.

Have y’all liked online gameplay so far or are y’all having similar experiences?

I’m playing in the 800s right now and I’m noticing some games you can’t buy a hit. Squared up balls are weak flies and everything is hit right at someone. It is honestly a joke. If you strike out two times in an entire game and are putting the ball in play statistically it should be impossible to have the outcomes I’ve been noticing some games.

Start a new match and hit two bombs in the first inning with worse pci placement than some of your weak flies the previous weird game. It makes no sense honestly.

Welcome to the party. Little late but you got here.

I didn’t really see too much of it til I hit 700-800 rank points.

I actually made it to 800 than my app kept closing mid game and I dropped down to 600 again before I reinstalled MLB which fixed the problem.

SDS

PAR is the new PCI. It doesn’t work as intended or flawed by design, pick one.

Explanations and excuses for results seeming random are so convoluted to the point that the community splits in two, meanwhile while SDS disappears in the background only to come out with a half baked improvement in the pre launch streams.

Someone offering up elevation as to why the PAR doesn’t work as stated… Next, the moon’s gravitational pull and time of the month will be used as excuses.

SDS

@guccigangchuck said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

@styxxx80_xbl said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

@guccigangchuck said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

@chrono_omega_psn said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

@daddydingerz_psn said in Is online gameplay really that awful?:

I’ve been playing The Show for years and I’m not usually one to complain, but online gameplay feels more inconsistent than ever to me. Overall the game has just been yucky so far.

Have y’all liked online gameplay so far or are y’all having similar experiences?

It’s down there with 18. Thing is I like some of the ball physics as it’s better than 20 and 21. But they also brought back the magnet down the middle pitch from 20 and 18’s good/good flyouts. It’s a hybrid of the some of the worst aspects of past games. If they just fixed some bugs and exploits on 17 wed literally have the best game possible.

This. Online game play is horrid. It is like you aren't supposed to hit the ball in the pci with good timing. Makes no sense. I can hit 6 balls with good timing inside the pci and hit a HR not touching.

Pinpoint is terrible. Ball gravitates toward the middle a lot and perfect pitches miss the PAR.

Perfect pitches should be in the PAR and good timing swings should produce way more hits.

you want pinpoint like last year back?? No thank you, i like the fact pitches are hung. Last year was so miserable with pinpoint, commons could dot you u, this year its actually fixed.

If I throw 99% draw perfect release on a curveball in the dirt it shouldn’t hang up in the zone. At least not if stick skills matter.

elevation plays a factor, not smart to throw curves if you're laying in a high elevated stadium.

If I have buried the line in the dirt and have thrown 99% accurately the ball should be in the dirt. Not down the middle regardless of elevation which isn’t even relevant to the point at hand.

SDS

Hitting is bizarre. I've had perfect PCI placement and next to perfect timing and the ball is just a weak flyout. Lineouts galore. Also, whenever I get someone one base, contact with a baseball generally magnets for a double play like 80% of the time. Not to brag, but I'm sitting at like a 27-8 record this ranked season and half those loses are from games where, no matter how well I squared up balls, the RNG I mentioned above just killed me. I have had some close games against good players. I remember one where we were in extra innings and this guy hit a walk off homerun with Bryce Harper on a cutter at Bryce's knees. Overall, it just feels like user input has no relevance at all. More than ever, the game feels arcade-like - it's the game that decides whether you get a hit, not the player and his or her stick skills.

I've been testing different setups. For reference, I play with a wired connection directly into a gaming router. I have my PS5 set to priority over all other devices in the house. I generally have download speeds at 470mbs to 520mbs and uploads around 25mbs to 30mbs. I'm on a Samsung G7, 4k 2.1 HMDI, 144hz refresh rate monitor with adaptive sync capabilities. At first, I thought hitting was jacked up because I was playing 4k. Switching to 1080p didn't really fix the issue. I had hopes the VRR supplement would help things, but it doesn't seem to make much of a difference. Timing windows and lag aren't really an issue at all for me. It appears to be the game itself at this point. Everything people are saying about lineouts, flyouts, and double plays are consistent in my gameplay too. The game itself is poorly executed when it comes to hitting.

Pitching seems fine this year. But the pitcher stamina patch was bad. Pitchers have just as much stamina as they did last year, so it doesn't even matter whether you have plate discipline to wear a pitcher out. They can just keep going, which is frustrating and unrealistic.

Fielding is bit odd too. Diving catches can get a bit crazy. If you dive early enough, a player will slide into balls that are well outside their reach.

As far as a baseball simulation, this is not that game. The Show is more of an arcade and collectible experience at this point. Not worth putting much effort into, other than for obtaining rewards. The rewards are also a bit dumb. The Face of the Franchise has taken over everyone's lineups. Every game you play has unrealistically boosted players. Every lineup is filled with switch hitters so you are forced to use only pitchers with a sinker/cutter/slider combo to deal with the switch hitters. Soon, I'm sure we'll get bombarded with progressively juiced Topps Now cards that will someone end up being high 90 overalls. Oddly enough, players who get Topps Now cards early in the game cycle are high golds or low diamonds, but at the end, a player will likely get a high 90 overall for the same performance put on early in the game cycle.

I'll end the rant. But just wanted to toss out a more detailed experience to generate some commentary on the game and the issues.