Floating Pitches
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@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@ncstatehokie_mlbts said in Floating Pitches:
I will readily admit that it could very well be my mind making something up but just curious if anyone else is noticing a lot more pitches this year randomly floating into the strike zone? Off speed pitches seem to be the majority of them. I can't remember what year but a few years ago this was super awful and happened a lot. Anyone else?
Not enough info provided TBH.
Are you adjusting to elevation? What type of pitchers you noticing it with? What type of pitching are you using? Are you adjusting to the PAR feature?
What time of day?Alot of people make claims about the game, but in reality alot of it is user error but they won't admit it or they don't truly understand how some features work.
While a lot of it has to do with user error, SDS has made it more difficult to pitch with PPP. Last year people were complaining about pitching being too easy to dot pitches. This year, SDS has made the margin of error so much smaller. If I’m 100% and .003 early/late release, I shouldn’t miss my spot by 4-5 inches. Which could be the difference of down the middle or hitting the inside part of the plate. That’s too big of a miss for a very small error in timing, IMO.
Pitching is harder on meter this year too. It's not just PPP. Which is why i brought up the fact not enough info.
Same goes with your scenario. Just b/c you got 100% and .003 release does not guarantee a strike or a dot in the zone. That is same arguement people are trying to make with PP hit, they think it should be automatic hit in a gap or over a fence.
I’m not expecting my pitches to be exactly where I place them if timing isn’t 100%. I’m also not expecting them to miss by half of the distance of the plate either. You never hear anyone talking about missing the PPP timing and still doting pitches.
Your pitches are missing half the plate on a perfect pitch? I find that to be an exaggeration of the truth sorry, but i can't believe that statement at all.
Where did I say perfect timing is missing by 6 inches? I said if my PPP info shows 100% & .003 early/late, it shouldn’t be missing by 4-6 inches from the spot. Which is typically around the middle of the plate if you’re aiming for the corners.
Edit - looking back, I’m not sure if you know much about PPP. There are 3 parts of it. I’m typically around 95-100%, .002-.007, 1-2inches on my PPP. But this year has been worse on where the pitches go if you’re a hair off on release.
Your comment prior.
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@ncstatehokie_mlbts said in Floating Pitches:
I will readily admit that it could very well be my mind making something up but just curious if anyone else is noticing a lot more pitches this year randomly floating into the strike zone? Off speed pitches seem to be the majority of them. I can't remember what year but a few years ago this was super awful and happened a lot. Anyone else?
Not enough info provided TBH.
Are you adjusting to elevation? What type of pitchers you noticing it with? What type of pitching are you using? Are you adjusting to the PAR feature?
What time of day?Alot of people make claims about the game, but in reality alot of it is user error but they won't admit it or they don't truly understand how some features work.
While a lot of it has to do with user error, SDS has made it more difficult to pitch with PPP. Last year people were complaining about pitching being too easy to dot pitches. This year, SDS has made the margin of error so much smaller. If I’m 100% and .003 early/late release, I shouldn’t miss my spot by 4-5 inches. Which could be the difference of down the middle or hitting the inside part of the plate. That’s too big of a miss for a very small error in timing, IMO.
Pitching is harder on meter this year too. It's not just PPP. Which is why i brought up the fact not enough info.
Same goes with your scenario. Just b/c you got 100% and .003 release does not guarantee a strike or a dot in the zone. That is same arguement people are trying to make with PP hit, they think it should be automatic hit in a gap or over a fence. Which is why i said not enough info given my response to OP.
I’m not expecting my pitches to be exactly where I place them if timing isn’t 100%. I’m also not expecting them to miss by half of the distance of the plate either. You never hear anyone talking about missing the PPP timing and still doting pitches.
Made it sound like you were missing half the zone sorry if i misread. That's how it came across. Pitching meter is same way if you miss a lil bit it goes right or left.
But if you factor elevation, time of day and other factors you can counter the missed timing to an extent is what i was getting at. Which is why i said it was probabally user error or ininformed moreso rather than "pitching sucks" comment i read by others is all.
It’s all good. I wouldn’t complain if my timing wasn’t so close to perfect, but so far from the intended target. That’s the reason I went away from meter pitching last year. I’m sorry, but I don’t see how elevation, time of day, etc. has anything to do with ball placement. Unless you’re saying I can lucky because of non pitching factors. Which is typically the stadium and batter.
Well try it. See if you get same movement and placement on different Elevations and times of day.
I use meter w/ classic and my sliders for instance has a different starting point at Oracle park than it does at lets say any other park that isn't 40 ft. And even then it acts different @ houston when dome is closed. So that is why i take those factors into consideration b/c I do see a difference.
I mean think about it if it wasn't a thing then every stadium would be the same. Seriously try a drastic comparison. Pitch at Oracle and then pitch @ Coors with same pitcher and see if you don't see a difference.
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@GrizzBear55_PSN brings up a good point. An example: Sonny Gray at Coors compared to Sonny Gray at Crosley. At Coors, 3 homers in a row to batters 1,2 &3. Same batters at Crosley K, 5-3, K. Same lineup, same time of day 1pm, different park. I didn't believe the effect until I had it happen to me.
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@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@ncstatehokie_mlbts said in Floating Pitches:
I will readily admit that it could very well be my mind making something up but just curious if anyone else is noticing a lot more pitches this year randomly floating into the strike zone? Off speed pitches seem to be the majority of them. I can't remember what year but a few years ago this was super awful and happened a lot. Anyone else?
Not enough info provided TBH.
Are you adjusting to elevation? What type of pitchers you noticing it with? What type of pitching are you using? Are you adjusting to the PAR feature?
What time of day?Alot of people make claims about the game, but in reality alot of it is user error but they won't admit it or they don't truly understand how some features work.
While a lot of it has to do with user error, SDS has made it more difficult to pitch with PPP. Last year people were complaining about pitching being too easy to dot pitches. This year, SDS has made the margin of error so much smaller. If I’m 100% and .003 early/late release, I shouldn’t miss my spot by 4-5 inches. Which could be the difference of down the middle or hitting the inside part of the plate. That’s too big of a miss for a very small error in timing, IMO.
Pitching is harder on meter this year too. It's not just PPP. Which is why i brought up the fact not enough info.
Same goes with your scenario. Just b/c you got 100% and .003 release does not guarantee a strike or a dot in the zone. That is same arguement people are trying to make with PP hit, they think it should be automatic hit in a gap or over a fence.
I’m not expecting my pitches to be exactly where I place them if timing isn’t 100%. I’m also not expecting them to miss by half of the distance of the plate either. You never hear anyone talking about missing the PPP timing and still doting pitches.
Your pitches are missing half the plate on a perfect pitch? I find that to be an exaggeration of the truth sorry, but i can't believe that statement at all.
Where did I say perfect timing is missing by 6 inches? I said if my PPP info shows 100% & .003 early/late, it shouldn’t be missing by 4-6 inches from the spot. Which is typically around the middle of the plate if you’re aiming for the corners.
Edit - looking back, I’m not sure if you know much about PPP. There are 3 parts of it. I’m typically around 95-100%, .002-.007, 1-2inches on my PPP. But this year has been worse on where the pitches go if you’re a hair off on release.
Your comment prior.
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@ncstatehokie_mlbts said in Floating Pitches:
I will readily admit that it could very well be my mind making something up but just curious if anyone else is noticing a lot more pitches this year randomly floating into the strike zone? Off speed pitches seem to be the majority of them. I can't remember what year but a few years ago this was super awful and happened a lot. Anyone else?
Not enough info provided TBH.
Are you adjusting to elevation? What type of pitchers you noticing it with? What type of pitching are you using? Are you adjusting to the PAR feature?
What time of day?Alot of people make claims about the game, but in reality alot of it is user error but they won't admit it or they don't truly understand how some features work.
While a lot of it has to do with user error, SDS has made it more difficult to pitch with PPP. Last year people were complaining about pitching being too easy to dot pitches. This year, SDS has made the margin of error so much smaller. If I’m 100% and .003 early/late release, I shouldn’t miss my spot by 4-5 inches. Which could be the difference of down the middle or hitting the inside part of the plate. That’s too big of a miss for a very small error in timing, IMO.
Pitching is harder on meter this year too. It's not just PPP. Which is why i brought up the fact not enough info.
Same goes with your scenario. Just b/c you got 100% and .003 release does not guarantee a strike or a dot in the zone. That is same arguement people are trying to make with PP hit, they think it should be automatic hit in a gap or over a fence. Which is why i said not enough info given my response to OP.
I’m not expecting my pitches to be exactly where I place them if timing isn’t 100%. I’m also not expecting them to miss by half of the distance of the plate either. You never hear anyone talking about missing the PPP timing and still doting pitches.
Made it sound like you were missing half the zone sorry if i misread. That's how it came across. Pitching meter is same way if you miss a lil bit it goes right or left.
But if you factor elevation, time of day and other factors you can counter the missed timing to an extent is what i was getting at. Which is why i said it was probabally user error or ininformed moreso rather than "pitching sucks" comment i read by others is all.
It’s all good. I wouldn’t complain if my timing wasn’t so close to perfect, but so far from the intended target. That’s the reason I went away from meter pitching last year. I’m sorry, but I don’t see how elevation, time of day, etc. has anything to do with ball placement. Unless you’re saying I can lucky because of non pitching factors. Which is typically the stadium and batter.
Well try it. See if you get same movement and placement on different Elevations and times of day.
I use meter w/ classic and my sliders for instance has a different starting point at Oracle park than it does at lets say any other park that isn't 40 ft. And even then it acts different @ houston when dome is closed. So that is why i take those factors into consideration b/c I do see a difference.
I mean think about it if it wasn't a thing then every stadium would be the same. Seriously try a drastic comparison. Pitch at Oracle and then pitch @ Coors with same pitcher and see if you don't see a difference.
I will give it a try. Honestly, I’ve never thought about a park adjusting the release point of a pitch for the same pitcher. To me, that is a big fail on SDS’s part if true.
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@evanchance_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@GrizzBear55_PSN brings up a good point. An example: Sonny Gray at Coors compared to Sonny Gray at Crosley. At Coors, 3 homers in a row to batters 1,2 &3. Same batters at Crosley K, 5-3, K. Same lineup, same time of day 1pm, different park. I didn't believe the effect until I had it happen to me.
Were they all the same pitch and location as well?
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@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@ncstatehokie_mlbts said in Floating Pitches:
I will readily admit that it could very well be my mind making something up but just curious if anyone else is noticing a lot more pitches this year randomly floating into the strike zone? Off speed pitches seem to be the majority of them. I can't remember what year but a few years ago this was super awful and happened a lot. Anyone else?
Not enough info provided TBH.
Are you adjusting to elevation? What type of pitchers you noticing it with? What type of pitching are you using? Are you adjusting to the PAR feature?
What time of day?Alot of people make claims about the game, but in reality alot of it is user error but they won't admit it or they don't truly understand how some features work.
While a lot of it has to do with user error, SDS has made it more difficult to pitch with PPP. Last year people were complaining about pitching being too easy to dot pitches. This year, SDS has made the margin of error so much smaller. If I’m 100% and .003 early/late release, I shouldn’t miss my spot by 4-5 inches. Which could be the difference of down the middle or hitting the inside part of the plate. That’s too big of a miss for a very small error in timing, IMO.
Pitching is harder on meter this year too. It's not just PPP. Which is why i brought up the fact not enough info.
Same goes with your scenario. Just b/c you got 100% and .003 release does not guarantee a strike or a dot in the zone. That is same arguement people are trying to make with PP hit, they think it should be automatic hit in a gap or over a fence.
I’m not expecting my pitches to be exactly where I place them if timing isn’t 100%. I’m also not expecting them to miss by half of the distance of the plate either. You never hear anyone talking about missing the PPP timing and still doting pitches.
Your pitches are missing half the plate on a perfect pitch? I find that to be an exaggeration of the truth sorry, but i can't believe that statement at all.
Where did I say perfect timing is missing by 6 inches? I said if my PPP info shows 100% & .003 early/late, it shouldn’t be missing by 4-6 inches from the spot. Which is typically around the middle of the plate if you’re aiming for the corners.
Edit - looking back, I’m not sure if you know much about PPP. There are 3 parts of it. I’m typically around 95-100%, .002-.007, 1-2inches on my PPP. But this year has been worse on where the pitches go if you’re a hair off on release.
Your comment prior.
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@ncstatehokie_mlbts said in Floating Pitches:
I will readily admit that it could very well be my mind making something up but just curious if anyone else is noticing a lot more pitches this year randomly floating into the strike zone? Off speed pitches seem to be the majority of them. I can't remember what year but a few years ago this was super awful and happened a lot. Anyone else?
Not enough info provided TBH.
Are you adjusting to elevation? What type of pitchers you noticing it with? What type of pitching are you using? Are you adjusting to the PAR feature?
What time of day?Alot of people make claims about the game, but in reality alot of it is user error but they won't admit it or they don't truly understand how some features work.
While a lot of it has to do with user error, SDS has made it more difficult to pitch with PPP. Last year people were complaining about pitching being too easy to dot pitches. This year, SDS has made the margin of error so much smaller. If I’m 100% and .003 early/late release, I shouldn’t miss my spot by 4-5 inches. Which could be the difference of down the middle or hitting the inside part of the plate. That’s too big of a miss for a very small error in timing, IMO.
Pitching is harder on meter this year too. It's not just PPP. Which is why i brought up the fact not enough info.
Same goes with your scenario. Just b/c you got 100% and .003 release does not guarantee a strike or a dot in the zone. That is same arguement people are trying to make with PP hit, they think it should be automatic hit in a gap or over a fence. Which is why i said not enough info given my response to OP.
I’m not expecting my pitches to be exactly where I place them if timing isn’t 100%. I’m also not expecting them to miss by half of the distance of the plate either. You never hear anyone talking about missing the PPP timing and still doting pitches.
Made it sound like you were missing half the zone sorry if i misread. That's how it came across. Pitching meter is same way if you miss a lil bit it goes right or left.
But if you factor elevation, time of day and other factors you can counter the missed timing to an extent is what i was getting at. Which is why i said it was probabally user error or ininformed moreso rather than "pitching sucks" comment i read by others is all.
It’s all good. I wouldn’t complain if my timing wasn’t so close to perfect, but so far from the intended target. That’s the reason I went away from meter pitching last year. I’m sorry, but I don’t see how elevation, time of day, etc. has anything to do with ball placement. Unless you’re saying I can lucky because of non pitching factors. Which is typically the stadium and batter.
Well try it. See if you get same movement and placement on different Elevations and times of day.
I use meter w/ classic and my sliders for instance has a different starting point at Oracle park than it does at lets say any other park that isn't 40 ft. And even then it acts different @ houston when dome is closed. So that is why i take those factors into consideration b/c I do see a difference.
I mean think about it if it wasn't a thing then every stadium would be the same. Seriously try a drastic comparison. Pitch at Oracle and then pitch @ Coors with same pitcher and see if you don't see a difference.
I will give it a try. Honestly, I’ve never thought about a park adjusting the release point of a pitch for the same pitcher. To me, that is a big fail on SDS’s part if true.
Not referring to different parks and release points. I'm saying pitch movement varies park to park and location of pitch types.
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@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@ncstatehokie_mlbts said in Floating Pitches:
I will readily admit that it could very well be my mind making something up but just curious if anyone else is noticing a lot more pitches this year randomly floating into the strike zone? Off speed pitches seem to be the majority of them. I can't remember what year but a few years ago this was super awful and happened a lot. Anyone else?
Not enough info provided TBH.
Are you adjusting to elevation? What type of pitchers you noticing it with? What type of pitching are you using? Are you adjusting to the PAR feature?
What time of day?Alot of people make claims about the game, but in reality alot of it is user error but they won't admit it or they don't truly understand how some features work.
While a lot of it has to do with user error, SDS has made it more difficult to pitch with PPP. Last year people were complaining about pitching being too easy to dot pitches. This year, SDS has made the margin of error so much smaller. If I’m 100% and .003 early/late release, I shouldn’t miss my spot by 4-5 inches. Which could be the difference of down the middle or hitting the inside part of the plate. That’s too big of a miss for a very small error in timing, IMO.
Pitching is harder on meter this year too. It's not just PPP. Which is why i brought up the fact not enough info.
Same goes with your scenario. Just b/c you got 100% and .003 release does not guarantee a strike or a dot in the zone. That is same arguement people are trying to make with PP hit, they think it should be automatic hit in a gap or over a fence.
I’m not expecting my pitches to be exactly where I place them if timing isn’t 100%. I’m also not expecting them to miss by half of the distance of the plate either. You never hear anyone talking about missing the PPP timing and still doting pitches.
Your pitches are missing half the plate on a perfect pitch? I find that to be an exaggeration of the truth sorry, but i can't believe that statement at all.
Where did I say perfect timing is missing by 6 inches? I said if my PPP info shows 100% & .003 early/late, it shouldn’t be missing by 4-6 inches from the spot. Which is typically around the middle of the plate if you’re aiming for the corners.
Edit - looking back, I’m not sure if you know much about PPP. There are 3 parts of it. I’m typically around 95-100%, .002-.007, 1-2inches on my PPP. But this year has been worse on where the pitches go if you’re a hair off on release.
Your comment prior.
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@ncstatehokie_mlbts said in Floating Pitches:
I will readily admit that it could very well be my mind making something up but just curious if anyone else is noticing a lot more pitches this year randomly floating into the strike zone? Off speed pitches seem to be the majority of them. I can't remember what year but a few years ago this was super awful and happened a lot. Anyone else?
Not enough info provided TBH.
Are you adjusting to elevation? What type of pitchers you noticing it with? What type of pitching are you using? Are you adjusting to the PAR feature?
What time of day?Alot of people make claims about the game, but in reality alot of it is user error but they won't admit it or they don't truly understand how some features work.
While a lot of it has to do with user error, SDS has made it more difficult to pitch with PPP. Last year people were complaining about pitching being too easy to dot pitches. This year, SDS has made the margin of error so much smaller. If I’m 100% and .003 early/late release, I shouldn’t miss my spot by 4-5 inches. Which could be the difference of down the middle or hitting the inside part of the plate. That’s too big of a miss for a very small error in timing, IMO.
Pitching is harder on meter this year too. It's not just PPP. Which is why i brought up the fact not enough info.
Same goes with your scenario. Just b/c you got 100% and .003 release does not guarantee a strike or a dot in the zone. That is same arguement people are trying to make with PP hit, they think it should be automatic hit in a gap or over a fence. Which is why i said not enough info given my response to OP.
I’m not expecting my pitches to be exactly where I place them if timing isn’t 100%. I’m also not expecting them to miss by half of the distance of the plate either. You never hear anyone talking about missing the PPP timing and still doting pitches.
Made it sound like you were missing half the zone sorry if i misread. That's how it came across. Pitching meter is same way if you miss a lil bit it goes right or left.
But if you factor elevation, time of day and other factors you can counter the missed timing to an extent is what i was getting at. Which is why i said it was probabally user error or ininformed moreso rather than "pitching sucks" comment i read by others is all.
It’s all good. I wouldn’t complain if my timing wasn’t so close to perfect, but so far from the intended target. That’s the reason I went away from meter pitching last year. I’m sorry, but I don’t see how elevation, time of day, etc. has anything to do with ball placement. Unless you’re saying I can lucky because of non pitching factors. Which is typically the stadium and batter.
Well try it. See if you get same movement and placement on different Elevations and times of day.
I use meter w/ classic and my sliders for instance has a different starting point at Oracle park than it does at lets say any other park that isn't 40 ft. And even then it acts different @ houston when dome is closed. So that is why i take those factors into consideration b/c I do see a difference.
I mean think about it if it wasn't a thing then every stadium would be the same. Seriously try a drastic comparison. Pitch at Oracle and then pitch @ Coors with same pitcher and see if you don't see a difference.
I will give it a try. Honestly, I’ve never thought about a park adjusting the release point of a pitch for the same pitcher. To me, that is a big fail on SDS’s part if true.
Not referring to different parks and release points. I'm saying pitch movement varies park to park and location of pitch types.
Is it different if you’re playing offline compared to online?
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@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@ncstatehokie_mlbts said in Floating Pitches:
I will readily admit that it could very well be my mind making something up but just curious if anyone else is noticing a lot more pitches this year randomly floating into the strike zone? Off speed pitches seem to be the majority of them. I can't remember what year but a few years ago this was super awful and happened a lot. Anyone else?
Not enough info provided TBH.
Are you adjusting to elevation? What type of pitchers you noticing it with? What type of pitching are you using? Are you adjusting to the PAR feature?
What time of day?Alot of people make claims about the game, but in reality alot of it is user error but they won't admit it or they don't truly understand how some features work.
While a lot of it has to do with user error, SDS has made it more difficult to pitch with PPP. Last year people were complaining about pitching being too easy to dot pitches. This year, SDS has made the margin of error so much smaller. If I’m 100% and .003 early/late release, I shouldn’t miss my spot by 4-5 inches. Which could be the difference of down the middle or hitting the inside part of the plate. That’s too big of a miss for a very small error in timing, IMO.
Pitching is harder on meter this year too. It's not just PPP. Which is why i brought up the fact not enough info.
Same goes with your scenario. Just b/c you got 100% and .003 release does not guarantee a strike or a dot in the zone. That is same arguement people are trying to make with PP hit, they think it should be automatic hit in a gap or over a fence.
I’m not expecting my pitches to be exactly where I place them if timing isn’t 100%. I’m also not expecting them to miss by half of the distance of the plate either. You never hear anyone talking about missing the PPP timing and still doting pitches.
Your pitches are missing half the plate on a perfect pitch? I find that to be an exaggeration of the truth sorry, but i can't believe that statement at all.
Where did I say perfect timing is missing by 6 inches? I said if my PPP info shows 100% & .003 early/late, it shouldn’t be missing by 4-6 inches from the spot. Which is typically around the middle of the plate if you’re aiming for the corners.
Edit - looking back, I’m not sure if you know much about PPP. There are 3 parts of it. I’m typically around 95-100%, .002-.007, 1-2inches on my PPP. But this year has been worse on where the pitches go if you’re a hair off on release.
Your comment prior.
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@ncstatehokie_mlbts said in Floating Pitches:
I will readily admit that it could very well be my mind making something up but just curious if anyone else is noticing a lot more pitches this year randomly floating into the strike zone? Off speed pitches seem to be the majority of them. I can't remember what year but a few years ago this was super awful and happened a lot. Anyone else?
Not enough info provided TBH.
Are you adjusting to elevation? What type of pitchers you noticing it with? What type of pitching are you using? Are you adjusting to the PAR feature?
What time of day?Alot of people make claims about the game, but in reality alot of it is user error but they won't admit it or they don't truly understand how some features work.
While a lot of it has to do with user error, SDS has made it more difficult to pitch with PPP. Last year people were complaining about pitching being too easy to dot pitches. This year, SDS has made the margin of error so much smaller. If I’m 100% and .003 early/late release, I shouldn’t miss my spot by 4-5 inches. Which could be the difference of down the middle or hitting the inside part of the plate. That’s too big of a miss for a very small error in timing, IMO.
Pitching is harder on meter this year too. It's not just PPP. Which is why i brought up the fact not enough info.
Same goes with your scenario. Just b/c you got 100% and .003 release does not guarantee a strike or a dot in the zone. That is same arguement people are trying to make with PP hit, they think it should be automatic hit in a gap or over a fence. Which is why i said not enough info given my response to OP.
I’m not expecting my pitches to be exactly where I place them if timing isn’t 100%. I’m also not expecting them to miss by half of the distance of the plate either. You never hear anyone talking about missing the PPP timing and still doting pitches.
Made it sound like you were missing half the zone sorry if i misread. That's how it came across. Pitching meter is same way if you miss a lil bit it goes right or left.
But if you factor elevation, time of day and other factors you can counter the missed timing to an extent is what i was getting at. Which is why i said it was probabally user error or ininformed moreso rather than "pitching sucks" comment i read by others is all.
It’s all good. I wouldn’t complain if my timing wasn’t so close to perfect, but so far from the intended target. That’s the reason I went away from meter pitching last year. I’m sorry, but I don’t see how elevation, time of day, etc. has anything to do with ball placement. Unless you’re saying I can lucky because of non pitching factors. Which is typically the stadium and batter.
Well try it. See if you get same movement and placement on different Elevations and times of day.
I use meter w/ classic and my sliders for instance has a different starting point at Oracle park than it does at lets say any other park that isn't 40 ft. And even then it acts different @ houston when dome is closed. So that is why i take those factors into consideration b/c I do see a difference.
I mean think about it if it wasn't a thing then every stadium would be the same. Seriously try a drastic comparison. Pitch at Oracle and then pitch @ Coors with same pitcher and see if you don't see a difference.
I will give it a try. Honestly, I’ve never thought about a park adjusting the release point of a pitch for the same pitcher. To me, that is a big fail on SDS’s part if true.
Not referring to different parks and release points. I'm saying pitch movement varies park to park and location of pitch types.
Is it different if you’re playing offline compared to online?
No only difference is online no wind. That only effects hitting.
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@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@evanchance_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@GrizzBear55_PSN brings up a good point. An example: Sonny Gray at Coors compared to Sonny Gray at Crosley. At Coors, 3 homers in a row to batters 1,2 &3. Same batters at Crosley K, 5-3, K. Same lineup, same time of day 1pm, different park. I didn't believe the effect until I had it happen to me.
Were they all the same pitch and location as well?
Not sure if this is a sarcastic response from you as I was agreeing with a previous comment, but the common denominator was the slurve. The slurve was hit for very long homers at Coors and at Crosley it was the out pitch.
I use that as a down and away pitch...it didn't do it's intended purpose at Coors.
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Yep, it’s back to MLB 2020. As you said, if I am almost in the dirt and am 97% plus accurate and off by .03 seconds, ( and with a pitcher with good control and movement on his pitch), it should never hang and float above the lower part of the zone…..but here we are.
Add in that balls in the dirt can easily be fouled off, and the frustration builds.
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@evanchance_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@evanchance_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@GrizzBear55_PSN brings up a good point. An example: Sonny Gray at Coors compared to Sonny Gray at Crosley. At Coors, 3 homers in a row to batters 1,2 &3. Same batters at Crosley K, 5-3, K. Same lineup, same time of day 1pm, different park. I didn't believe the effect until I had it happen to me.
Were they all the same pitch and location as well?
Not sure if this is a sarcastic response from you as I was agreeing with a previous comment, but the common denominator was the slurve. The slurve was hit for very long homers at Coors and at Crosley it was the out pitch.
I use that as a down and away pitch...it didn't do it's intended purpose at Coors.
No sarcasm here. I was just asking so I can try it when I get the chance to play again.
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@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@evanchance_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@matt_42187_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@evanchance_psn said in Floating Pitches:
@GrizzBear55_PSN brings up a good point. An example: Sonny Gray at Coors compared to Sonny Gray at Crosley. At Coors, 3 homers in a row to batters 1,2 &3. Same batters at Crosley K, 5-3, K. Same lineup, same time of day 1pm, different park. I didn't believe the effect until I had it happen to me.
Were they all the same pitch and location as well?
Not sure if this is a sarcastic response from you as I was agreeing with a previous comment, but the common denominator was the slurve. The slurve was hit for very long homers at Coors and at Crosley it was the out pitch.
I use that as a down and away pitch...it didn't do it's intended purpose at Coors.
No sarcasm here. I was just asking so I can try it when I get the chance to play again.
Gotcha.
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