No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons
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@suntlacrimae50_mlbts said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
I can see both sides. But this is what happens when SDS tries to cater to everyone. Making online skill-based rewards available for average players has to be infuriating for the WS crowd, but the inning total is just insane.
I don't claim to speak for everyone, but I don't care at all that there is a separate reward system for people to get the ws rewards that couldn't get there by getting to 900. They honestly help me reliably make stubs because I know the card will be cheaper by the end when people accumulate the innings. Also guarantees supply so when I don't feel like playing ranked I can buy the card without having to wait in a million stub line
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It’s video game, it’s supposed to be fu . It’s not like by getting the DTrain you get $100,000 in your actually bank account and everyone else getting him depletes that... Sure if your NMS and it’s depletes the Stubbs you get, I understand... But it’s not SDS’ fault that they are trying to make the rewards available to everyone.
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@savefarris_psn said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
World Series rewards are SUPPOSED to be hard to get. SDS made it exponentially easier, albeit time consuming, and you guys are still complaining?
Exactly. Honestly I’m surprised they made WS cards this “easy” to get….in the sense that you literally don’t even need to win 1 game. 400 innings is also like 1 and a half games a day.
There’s people that spend 8 hours a day on the market for crying out loud. Less than 2 games a day actually playing the game for its intended purpose should not be frowned upon. It’s a great addition.
Or we can go back to 300 buy orders at 1 million if players want.
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@guccigangchuck said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
@suntlacrimae50_mlbts said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
@guccigangchuck said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
@i-pureblood-i_psn said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
So SDS caters to the dozen YTers and not the tens? of thousands of others who play the game?
Aside from giving up your whole life and/or another plandemic, who has time to play 400 innings especially when people are still dashboarding anyway?
Other option is to spend $200 on stubs to buy the player off the small amount of WS level players?
Scumbag move SDS, big time scumbag move
the scum bag move were the people abusing the win system last year, and playing weak opponents, ITS A RANKED PLAYLIST, it has to have some form of that aspect so it doesn't turn into a quit fest. Either make WS or play the darn game, you dont even have to win, you get rewarded even if you lose thats so far from being a scumbag.
Fair up to a point, but if you're a 4A player like me -- too good for low rankings, never good enough for WS -- quitting was useful. I was never pathological about it, and always quit down to a level where I thought I had a 50/50 shot at a win.
no one is never not good enough to not make WS, the whole i'll never make WS thing is a cop out, all it takes is some mental will power to grind though.
Bull.
It takes dedication and time that lots of people don't have. I probably CAN make WS, but I want to play other aspects of the game, do other things/play other games, and not have to practice for hours just to get better at RS.
And yes, some people have naturally slower reaction times AND don't have monitors.
Lots goes into this, not just "be dedicated."
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@suntlacrimae50_mlbts said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
@guccigangchuck said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
@suntlacrimae50_mlbts said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
@guccigangchuck said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
@i-pureblood-i_psn said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
So SDS caters to the dozen YTers and not the tens? of thousands of others who play the game?
Aside from giving up your whole life and/or another plandemic, who has time to play 400 innings especially when people are still dashboarding anyway?
Other option is to spend $200 on stubs to buy the player off the small amount of WS level players?
Scumbag move SDS, big time scumbag move
the scum bag move were the people abusing the win system last year, and playing weak opponents, ITS A RANKED PLAYLIST, it has to have some form of that aspect so it doesn't turn into a quit fest. Either make WS or play the darn game, you dont even have to win, you get rewarded even if you lose thats so far from being a scumbag.
Fair up to a point, but if you're a 4A player like me -- too good for low rankings, never good enough for WS -- quitting was useful. I was never pathological about it, and always quit down to a level where I thought I had a 50/50 shot at a win.
no one is never not good enough to not make WS, the whole i'll never make WS thing is a cop out, all it takes is some mental will power to grind though.
Bull.
It takes dedication and time that lots of people don't have. I probably CAN make WS, but I want to play other aspects of the game, do other things/play other games, and not have to practice for hours just to get better at RS.
And yes, some people have naturally slower reaction times AND don't have monitors.
Lots goes into this, not just "be dedicated."
if you play the game enough you'll eventually hit WS one day. All it takes is a crazy locked in run, 12-0 on the other hand, thats the hardest thing to do in the game. So no its not "bull", but not having a monitor does hurt the process, but not impossible.
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So, wondering.
I have a Series X and a ps5 with linked accounts.
Could I have both going at the same time -- one with RS on its own (autopitching, not hitting) while I grind on Rookie with the other?
Only HALF kidding, by the way.
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@toast2thegodz_psn said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
@dbub_psn said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
So for an average player like me (135-113 last year in RS) there's not a huge difference.
I needed to play about 54 games last year to get to 30 wins. But there were probably 15-20 of those games that were early quits (by me or my opponent). So 45 or so games for 400 innings is very comparable.
For the best WS type players? This move absolutely destroys them. They'll have to play a ton more now.
For the worst players, but who are willing to grind? This move is all about them. Helps them enormously.
But why would it hurt the WS type players that are already making WS each ranked season? They still have to make it to 900 which they do in the blink of an eye
Because the best players used to get the WS reward TWICE! And this helped them stub wise.
Once for making WS and once for 30 wins.
Trust me, I'm not in this category. Just pointing out the new system rewards the worst players and penalizes the best. -
@savefarris_psn said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
World Series rewards are SUPPOSED to be hard to get. SDS made it exponentially easier, albeit time consuming, and you guys are still complaining?
Isn’t this the norm. Whining until you get your way
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There's a simple fix for this
Since people are still dashboarding in the 1st 3 innings, going back to wins is the only move
HOWEVER, since people lose on purpose to go to a lower tier, how about once you reach a tier, you can not go back down. This eliminates the people who were actually exploiting the game, stops the dashboarders and brings back the 30 wins for those that don't have the reflexes of a someone on 90mg of adderoll.
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@i-pureblood-i_psn said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
There's a simple fix for this
Since people are still dashboarding in the 1st 3 innings, going back to wins is the only move
HOWEVER, since people lose on purpose to go to a lower tier, how about once you reach a tier, you can not go back down. This eliminates the people who were actually exploiting the game, stops the dashboarders and brings back the 30 wins for those that don't have the reflexes of a someone on 90mg of adderoll.
Or just make it one difficulty level and need certain wins or innings
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Its a bonus dont worry about whther you make the 400 innings or not.. Its only an extra way to get rewards you still get rewards with your ranking like every other year
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If you don't want to play the innings, it would only take a few hours of flipping gold's. Prices have started to settle in finally
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@rf21_psn said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
I consider myself an avg to above avg player. Last year I could make it to Championship get close to world series but have never made it there. I enjoy collecting all the cards that become available. Last year I was able to get the cards by racking up the wins. Yes, to SDS' point, quit a game early if I knew I was going to lose, but full games are only valuable to content creators not most players. And I only have so much time to play, need to maximize my time if I want to get all the cards and play all the modes.
With this year's change, no way I get to world series. Not even by "just playing the games" 400 innings is basically 44 games. That means between 35-40 hours of gameplay per season. If I commit to that I won't have time to do BR, events and so on. I rather do the other modes and still have the competition aspect in events and BR.
SDS- anyway you can tweak this? Maybe a combination of XP and innings? Or getting to certain levels (division series, championship) "buys" you a number of progress requiring less innings or XP to reach WS? Otherwise, someone like myself just don't see the point of playing ranked when I'm trying to get as many cards as possible.
People are still rage quitting like crazy. You can get there by winning. In fact you'll probably hit 900 before a bit before 400 innings.
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The notion that anyone can make WS by just putting the time and focusing is just wrong. If you play on a TV screen, zero chance you get there the speeds are way too fast. And let's be honest, not everyone has the right skill. Not being a [censored], just truth.
Another item people tend to forget, my comment regarding not wanting to play 400 innings in one mode is that I just don't have the time if I still want to play other modes like events and BR which are fun. Don't forget about showdowns, conquest maps that help you get the program rewards. I don't have 2+ hours each day. But I'm sure others do, just posting why there is no point playing Ranked for myself
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@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
@guccigangchuck said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
@i-pureblood-i_psn said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
So SDS caters to the dozen YTers and not the tens? of thousands of others who play the game?
Aside from giving up your whole life and/or another plandemic, who has time to play 400 innings especially when people are still dashboarding anyway?
Other option is to spend $200 on stubs to buy the player off the small amount of WS level players?
Scumbag move SDS, big time scumbag move
the scum bag move were the people abusing the win system last year, and playing weak opponents, ITS A RANKED PLAYLIST, it has to have some form of that aspect so it doesn't turn into a quit fest. Either make WS or play the darn game, you dont even have to win, you get rewarded even if you lose thats so far from being a scumbag.
Who on earth would do such a thing? lol. You do realize people can do that again as playing 450 innings on all star is better than 450 innings on HOF and Legend. If the connections still suck (which they probably will since their network team is not good), then I might do the same thing. Playing 450 innings on HOF or Legend 120 mph wiffle ball is not enjoyable.
So I won the WS in March to October on Legend on Monday (it was put on dynamic by accident). Online HOF and Legend speeds were WAY faster last year. I'm already getting blown away by 93 in some games.
Ah man, didn't you make a big post saying that you did not purchase the game this year?
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@rf21_psn said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
The notion that anyone can make WS by just putting the time and focusing is just wrong. If you play on a TV screen, zero chance you get there the speeds are way too fast. And let's be honest, not everyone has the right skill. Not being a [censored], just truth.
Another item people tend to forget, my comment regarding not wanting to play 400 innings in one mode is that I just don't have the time if I still want to play other modes like events and BR which are fun. Don't forget about showdowns, conquest maps that help you get the program rewards. I don't have 2+ hours each day. But I'm sure others do, just posting why there is no point playing Ranked for myself
WS series rewards are easy enough to get now that you don't need 900 rating. It takes time. If you want the card bad enough you will make 900 or get 400 innings. WS shouldn't be handed out to anyone that wants to participate in ranked season. 8ts literally called ranked seasons. The fact that anyone willing to sit through 400 innings can get the same reward as a 900 player is ridiculous in my opinion anyways. But that's society now.
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@rf21_psn said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
The notion that anyone can make WS by just putting the time and focusing is just wrong. If you play on a TV screen, zero chance you get there the speeds are way too fast. And let's be honest, not everyone has the right skill. Not being a [censored], just truth.
Another item people tend to forget, my comment regarding not wanting to play 400 innings in one mode is that I just don't have the time if I still want to play other modes like events and BR which are fun. Don't forget about showdowns, conquest maps that help you get the program rewards. I don't have 2+ hours each day. But I'm sure others do, just posting why there is no point playing Ranked for myself
@RF21_PSN stated it nicely. 400 innings in addition to all the other aspects of the game is ridiculous. BR, Events, Conquest, Mini-season (30+ games is a lot of time), and showdowns all take time. This shouldn't be a fulltime job for people to enjoy the game. In addition, last year, many people worked from home so you could get in a few games over lunch or you didn't have to worry about the commute. This year, people have less time on their hands and the requirements are much higher. You have to bring down win requirements somewhere, between ws, events, br, and mini-seasons.
People are saying that this is a "COMPETITIVE PLAYLIST"...Gimme a break. If you are someone who is stuck somewhere between 500 - 750, it's a pretty casual zone. Yeah, I want to win, but this is a range where people have fun and aren't living and dying by the game. The last thing I want to do is feel like I'm stuck in a game where I'm getting killed by 7 runs and feel like I have no chance. Last year was the first year I ever played RS because of the win total. It was a huge upgrade because it brought in people who knew they had no shot at WS and increased the player base. I wouldn't be surprised if this game faced a steep drop off in daily users because of 400 innings. I'll be bunting my way through games to make the pain go away much faster. I'll try to get through a RS game in 20 minutes.
As for BR, 4,000 PXP and 40 hits in a single run??? LOL! I'll find a few guys who want to help out with that.
By trying to make this more competitive, the game will actually get less competitive.
My last point...Please do not put any exclusive rewards in co-op. There is already a saturation point in terms of time available to play the game and it will take players out of the event / WS / BR pool. Last year was perfect (except servers), can we bring it back?
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@dolenz_psn said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
@guccigangchuck said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
@i-pureblood-i_psn said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
So SDS caters to the dozen YTers and not the tens? of thousands of others who play the game?
Aside from giving up your whole life and/or another plandemic, who has time to play 400 innings especially when people are still dashboarding anyway?
Other option is to spend $200 on stubs to buy the player off the small amount of WS level players?
Scumbag move SDS, big time scumbag move
the scum bag move were the people abusing the win system last year, and playing weak opponents, ITS A RANKED PLAYLIST, it has to have some form of that aspect so it doesn't turn into a quit fest. Either make WS or play the darn game, you dont even have to win, you get rewarded even if you lose thats so far from being a scumbag.
Who on earth would do such a thing? lol. You do realize people can do that again as playing 450 innings on all star is better than 450 innings on HOF and Legend. If the connections still suck (which they probably will since their network team is not good), then I might do the same thing. Playing 450 innings on HOF or Legend 120 mph wiffle ball is not enjoyable.
So I won the WS in March to October on Legend on Monday (it was put on dynamic by accident). Online HOF and Legend speeds were WAY faster last year. I'm already getting blown away by 93 in some games.
Ah man, didn't you make a big post saying that you did not purchase the game this year?
There are a lot of them around here that claimed that bs
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@dolenz_psn said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
@guccigangchuck said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
@i-pureblood-i_psn said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
So SDS caters to the dozen YTers and not the tens? of thousands of others who play the game?
Aside from giving up your whole life and/or another plandemic, who has time to play 400 innings especially when people are still dashboarding anyway?
Other option is to spend $200 on stubs to buy the player off the small amount of WS level players?
Scumbag move SDS, big time scumbag move
the scum bag move were the people abusing the win system last year, and playing weak opponents, ITS A RANKED PLAYLIST, it has to have some form of that aspect so it doesn't turn into a quit fest. Either make WS or play the darn game, you dont even have to win, you get rewarded even if you lose thats so far from being a scumbag.
Who on earth would do such a thing? lol. You do realize people can do that again as playing 450 innings on all star is better than 450 innings on HOF and Legend. If the connections still suck (which they probably will since their network team is not good), then I might do the same thing. Playing 450 innings on HOF or Legend 120 mph wiffle ball is not enjoyable.
So I won the WS in March to October on Legend on Monday (it was put on dynamic by accident). Online HOF and Legend speeds were WAY faster last year. I'm already getting blown away by 93 in some games.
Ah man, didn't you make a big post saying that you did not purchase the game this year?
I didn't have it when I posted. Decided to anyway. Needed something other than pubg when my duo partner isn't available and golf was getting stale. Not expecting anything to change so I'll just play for the hell of it.
