Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!

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@halfbutt_psn said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

My point was that OP described his experience facing an opponent that “quick pitched” him and Lord Bumpkin gaslighted him. I did not use the term incorrectly.

He then called me out for being negative and not quoting him, so I quoted him and reiterated what I said.

I know what gaslighting means. Anyone can look it up.

Maybe it was harsh, but I don’t think it was inaccurate. Lord Bumpkin was trying to discredit OP’s point of view, and then he also tried to discredit me when I called him out.

To play devils advocate, is calling his point of view gaslighting also gaslighting then? Since you are in fact, discrediting his point of view by dismissing it as gaslighting?

Obviously he started it, not OP or you, I'm just saying since what we are discussing is very much opinion based, not fact based.

If I stole your cookie, and then told you that you just forgot you ate it, that is gaslighting. But here there really isn't something verifiable like that, it's all based on opinions on whether "quick pitching" is unsportsmanlike or not

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@dap1234567890 said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

@a761506_psn said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

Call it what you want, quick pitching, but it’s definitely a balk and while I know the rules have balls turned off, I think they should be eliminated entirely. Real baseball does not allow a pitcher to quick pitch with a base runner.

Balks and quick pitching are different things. Balks do not happen in DD (or in any other mode in this game that I am aware of). Maybe read the MLB definition of balk.

Come on, man. Pitchers balk at will in DD. Pitchers can roll straight thru their delivery without any type of stop or pause with a guy on base. Just because SDS has them turned off doesn’t it make it not a balk by mLb definition.

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@a761506_psn said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

Call it what you want, quick pitching, but it’s definitely a balk and while I know the rules have balls turned off, I think they should be eliminated entirely. Real baseball does not allow a pitcher to quick pitch with a base runner.

There is no quick pitching in this game at least not in the real world since of the term. It’s just people playing the game quicker than others would like to play.

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@jtownelite_x814x_psn said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

@lord_blumpkin35 said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

I dont get quick pitching. you hit play game, how are you caught off guard when you know youre up to bat

Ok, so in an actual MLB game there are anywhere from a few to 15/20 seconds between pitches. Once the pitcher pitches the ball then the catcher has to throw it back. Then the pitcher has to get set and has to wait for the catcher to give the pitcher a sign as to what pitch they want.

That takes time.

In the game, it's select pitch, pitch the ball, get the pitch back, select pitch, and then pitch the ball. If someone is quick pitching that sequence can happen in about 2-3 seconds.

It's a huge difference.

Now, some may say that they don't want the game to take forever. It won't take as long as one could take I'd you have someone holding R2 to stop you from quick pitching.

People complain about this all the time. But it’s a video game. How much time do you actually need between pitches? It’s not like YOU have to step out of the box and get signs from your coach or something? When is it enough time? If the game allows me to select the pitch and throw it, then I’m doing it. I’ve never felt I didn’t have enough time between pitches when I was batting.

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@eatyum_psn said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

@halfbutt_psn said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

My point was that OP described his experience facing an opponent that “quick pitched” him and Lord Bumpkin gaslighted him. I did not use the term incorrectly.

He then called me out for being negative and not quoting him, so I quoted him and reiterated what I said.

I know what gaslighting means. Anyone can look it up.

Maybe it was harsh, but I don’t think it was inaccurate. Lord Bumpkin was trying to discredit OP’s point of view, and then he also tried to discredit me when I called him out.

To play devils advocate, is calling his point of view gaslighting also gaslighting then? Since you are in fact, discrediting his point of view by dismissing it as gaslighting?

Obviously he started it, not OP or you, I'm just saying since what we are discussing is very much opinion based, not fact based.

If I stole your cookie, and then told you that you just forgot you ate it, that is gaslighting. But here there really isn't something verifiable like that, it's all based on opinions on whether "quick pitching" is unsportsmanlike or not

Personally, I don’t like when my opponent takes too long to come to the plate, as some will do. I will step out with the D pad usually, but that only works once, and then I just have to wait.

If my opponent is pitching too fast, it is a similar situation, I can hold R2 I suppose, to have a bit more time but again, you can only do it for so long and it is generally frowned upon.

IT is not THAT hard to take slightly more time between pitches. I am only saying this because a solid 80% of my opponents do not pitch at me like a machine gun.

I said Lord Bumpkin was gaslighting because he was not acknowledging that he himself does what OP was describing, and he was turning it around on OP, suggesting that OP was in fact in the wrong.

Now if we are going to give Bumpkin the benefit of the doubt and say he just likes to play really fast and isn’t in fact trying to gain any advantage over his opponents by doing so, then fine.

It still doesn’t explain why the vast majority of players do NOT play the game at lightning speed, or why Bumpkin finds it so difficult to slow down his pitch delivery slightly if his opponents are complaining about it.

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They should add a chat feature, which will allow you to ask if your opponent is ready, before each pitch. Only after they tell you they’re ready, will you be allowed to pitch the ball. 🙄

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@dewrock_psn said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

They should add a chat feature, which will allow you to ask if your opponent is ready, before each pitch. Only after they tell you they’re ready, will you be allowed to pitch the ball. 🙄

I can only imagine how many times my mom will be the subject of abuse

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@dap1234567890 said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

@lord_blumpkin35 said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

@eatyum_psn said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

@halfbutt_psn said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

@lord_blumpkin35 said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

@halfbutt_psn said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

The players who use this tactic are not likely to admit they are using an exploit. Usually they will gaslight you like Lord Bumpkin above.

When the pitches are coming so fast that the animations don’t complete, to me that is quick pitching.

why dont you quote me instead of just speaking. im not even sure what the topic is I was legit curious how you can be quick-pitched. how can you not be ready you know its coming. I get the pitch I use meter and throw. just explain to me how you can be quickpitched without saying I need 15 seconds between pitches to check your phone, or just sitting there enjoying the view. at least have the common decency of quoting me instead of using my name and talking negatively.

Calling you out for gaslighting is not talking negatively.

TBH though, it's not a widely accepted idea that what you describe as "quick pitching" is unsportsmanlike. So I don't know if gaslighting is the right word, seems to be differing opinions instead

yup I dont think he understands the term. I did ask what it was, was told in real life you get 20-40 seconds in between pitches. I guess half but gets out of his chair, adjusts his batting gloves and controller then sits back down. the game has mechanics you cant bypass, at the very best is slide step which is just a recipe for throwing balls or meatballs

MLB's and MiLB's AA and AAA pitch clocks (20 seconds) and the MiLB's low-A pitch clock (15 seconds) is not about giving hitters more time. The pitcher must come set within that time period and the batter must be in the box and ready with at least 5 seconds prior to the clock running out. So, the pitch clock actually works to create more of quick pitch scenario. So, the idea that MLB gave batters between 20-40 seconds is bunk! This pitch clock actually made the average time for a 9-inning game go from 3 hours 2 minutes down to 2 hours and 41 minutes.

yeah theyre set within a shortened time is not quick pitching. quick pitching is not coming set fully or minimizing the time from stretch to pitch thats borderline a balk. what youre describing is speeding the game up (as it should be) that clock doesnt do anything for quick pitching. as you said it makes ppl in the box and pitchers ready to pitch.

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@dewrock_psn said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

@jtownelite_x814x_psn said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

@lord_blumpkin35 said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

I dont get quick pitching. you hit play game, how are you caught off guard when you know youre up to bat

Ok, so in an actual MLB game there are anywhere from a few to 15/20 seconds between pitches. Once the pitcher pitches the ball then the catcher has to throw it back. Then the pitcher has to get set and has to wait for the catcher to give the pitcher a sign as to what pitch they want.

That takes time.

In the game, it's select pitch, pitch the ball, get the pitch back, select pitch, and then pitch the ball. If someone is quick pitching that sequence can happen in about 2-3 seconds.

It's a huge difference.

Now, some may say that they don't want the game to take forever. It won't take as long as one could take I'd you have someone holding R2 to stop you from quick pitching.

People complain about this all the time. But it’s a video game. How much time do you actually need between pitches? It’s not like YOU have to step out of the box and get signs from your coach or something? When is it enough time? If the game allows me to select the pitch and throw it, then I’m doing it. I’ve never felt I didn’t have enough time between pitches when I was batting.

thank you ^ exactly what ive been saying

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@halfbutt_psn said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

@eatyum_psn said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

@halfbutt_psn said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

My point was that OP described his experience facing an opponent that “quick pitched” him and Lord Bumpkin gaslighted him. I did not use the term incorrectly.

He then called me out for being negative and not quoting him, so I quoted him and reiterated what I said.

I know what gaslighting means. Anyone can look it up.

Maybe it was harsh, but I don’t think it was inaccurate. Lord Bumpkin was trying to discredit OP’s point of view, and then he also tried to discredit me when I called him out.

To play devils advocate, is calling his point of view gaslighting also gaslighting then? Since you are in fact, discrediting his point of view by dismissing it as gaslighting?

Obviously he started it, not OP or you, I'm just saying since what we are discussing is very much opinion based, not fact based.

If I stole your cookie, and then told you that you just forgot you ate it, that is gaslighting. But here there really isn't something verifiable like that, it's all based on opinions on whether "quick pitching" is unsportsmanlike or not

Personally, I don’t like when my opponent takes too long to come to the plate, as some will do. I will step out with the D pad usually, but that only works once, and then I just have to wait.

If my opponent is pitching too fast, it is a similar situation, I can hold R2 I suppose, to have a bit more time but again, you can only do it for so long and it is generally frowned upon.

IT is not THAT hard to take slightly more time between pitches. I am only saying this because a solid 80% of my opponents do not pitch at me like a machine gun.

I said Lord Bumpkin was gaslighting because he was not acknowledging that he himself does what OP was describing, and he was turning it around on OP, suggesting that OP was in fact in the wrong.

Now if we are going to give Bumpkin the benefit of the doubt and say he just likes to play really fast and isn’t in fact trying to gain any advantage over his opponents by doing so, then fine.

It still doesn’t explain why the vast majority of players do NOT play the game at lightning speed, or why Bumpkin finds it so difficult to slow down his pitch delivery slightly if his opponents are complaining about it.

amusing you cant quote me and continually mention me. how many times have I ever been messaged slow down pitching: 0. how many times have ppl complained about pauses and holding R2 on here: endless.
my "original comment " was asking what it was. there was no attack so figure it out, learn to google, and learn what gas lighting means. also people here dont understand what quickpitching is and it demonstrates a lack of playing baseball at anything beyond high school

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@lord_blumpkin35 said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

@halfbutt_psn said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

@eatyum_psn said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

@halfbutt_psn said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

My point was that OP described his experience facing an opponent that “quick pitched” him and Lord Bumpkin gaslighted him. I did not use the term incorrectly.

He then called me out for being negative and not quoting him, so I quoted him and reiterated what I said.

I know what gaslighting means. Anyone can look it up.

Maybe it was harsh, but I don’t think it was inaccurate. Lord Bumpkin was trying to discredit OP’s point of view, and then he also tried to discredit me when I called him out.

To play devils advocate, is calling his point of view gaslighting also gaslighting then? Since you are in fact, discrediting his point of view by dismissing it as gaslighting?

Obviously he started it, not OP or you, I'm just saying since what we are discussing is very much opinion based, not fact based.

If I stole your cookie, and then told you that you just forgot you ate it, that is gaslighting. But here there really isn't something verifiable like that, it's all based on opinions on whether "quick pitching" is unsportsmanlike or not

Personally, I don’t like when my opponent takes too long to come to the plate, as some will do. I will step out with the D pad usually, but that only works once, and then I just have to wait.

If my opponent is pitching too fast, it is a similar situation, I can hold R2 I suppose, to have a bit more time but again, you can only do it for so long and it is generally frowned upon.

IT is not THAT hard to take slightly more time between pitches. I am only saying this because a solid 80% of my opponents do not pitch at me like a machine gun.

I said Lord Bumpkin was gaslighting because he was not acknowledging that he himself does what OP was describing, and he was turning it around on OP, suggesting that OP was in fact in the wrong.

Now if we are going to give Bumpkin the benefit of the doubt and say he just likes to play really fast and isn’t in fact trying to gain any advantage over his opponents by doing so, then fine.

It still doesn’t explain why the vast majority of players do NOT play the game at lightning speed, or why Bumpkin finds it so difficult to slow down his pitch delivery slightly if his opponents are complaining about it.

amusing you cant quote me and continually mention me. how many times have I ever been messaged slow down pitching: 0. how many times have ppl complained about pauses and holding R2 on here: endless.
my "original comment " was asking what it was. there was no attack so figure it out, learn to google, and learn what gas lighting means. also people here dont understand what quickpitching is and it demonstrates a lack of playing baseball at anything beyond high school

Exactly right. Quick pitching in the truest sense of the term is impossible on this game. Picking a pitch aides your pitcher to come set and pause. This is something people complain about because they want to be doing a million other things while playing an online video game (texting, scratching their balls, hitting a bowl, i don’t know)

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I wonder if people that complain about quickpitching...take a pitch off in between swings at the batting cage. Cause it's too fast for them. Grip it and rip it.

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@lord_blumpkin35 said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

@halfbutt_psn said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

@eatyum_psn said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

@halfbutt_psn said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

My point was that OP described his experience facing an opponent that “quick pitched” him and Lord Bumpkin gaslighted him. I did not use the term incorrectly.

He then called me out for being negative and not quoting him, so I quoted him and reiterated what I said.

I know what gaslighting means. Anyone can look it up.

Maybe it was harsh, but I don’t think it was inaccurate. Lord Bumpkin was trying to discredit OP’s point of view, and then he also tried to discredit me when I called him out.

To play devils advocate, is calling his point of view gaslighting also gaslighting then? Since you are in fact, discrediting his point of view by dismissing it as gaslighting?

Obviously he started it, not OP or you, I'm just saying since what we are discussing is very much opinion based, not fact based.

If I stole your cookie, and then told you that you just forgot you ate it, that is gaslighting. But here there really isn't something verifiable like that, it's all based on opinions on whether "quick pitching" is unsportsmanlike or not

Personally, I don’t like when my opponent takes too long to come to the plate, as some will do. I will step out with the D pad usually, but that only works once, and then I just have to wait.

If my opponent is pitching too fast, it is a similar situation, I can hold R2 I suppose, to have a bit more time but again, you can only do it for so long and it is generally frowned upon.

IT is not THAT hard to take slightly more time between pitches. I am only saying this because a solid 80% of my opponents do not pitch at me like a machine gun.

I said Lord Bumpkin was gaslighting because he was not acknowledging that he himself does what OP was describing, and he was turning it around on OP, suggesting that OP was in fact in the wrong.

Now if we are going to give Bumpkin the benefit of the doubt and say he just likes to play really fast and isn’t in fact trying to gain any advantage over his opponents by doing so, then fine.

It still doesn’t explain why the vast majority of players do NOT play the game at lightning speed, or why Bumpkin finds it so difficult to slow down his pitch delivery slightly if his opponents are complaining about it.

amusing you cant quote me and continually mention me. how many times have I ever been messaged slow down pitching: 0. how many times have ppl complained about pauses and holding R2 on here: endless.
my "original comment " was asking what it was. there was no attack so figure it out, learn to google, and learn what gas lighting means. also people here dont understand what quickpitching is and it demonstrates a lack of playing baseball at anything beyond high school

By your tone and replies, I can tell this conversation is going nowhere.

I am fully capable of using Google, and I know what gaslighting is.

I would suggest that you are not nearly as interested in hearing what OP or myself might actually be saying as you are in appearing to be the winner of some argument on here.

What a surprise.

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@dewrock_psn said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

@jtownelite_x814x_psn said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

@lord_blumpkin35 said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

I dont get quick pitching. you hit play game, how are you caught off guard when you know youre up to bat

Ok, so in an actual MLB game there are anywhere from a few to 15/20 seconds between pitches. Once the pitcher pitches the ball then the catcher has to throw it back. Then the pitcher has to get set and has to wait for the catcher to give the pitcher a sign as to what pitch they want.

That takes time.

In the game, it's select pitch, pitch the ball, get the pitch back, select pitch, and then pitch the ball. If someone is quick pitching that sequence can happen in about 2-3 seconds.

It's a huge difference.

Now, some may say that they don't want the game to take forever. It won't take as long as one could take I'd you have someone holding R2 to stop you from quick pitching.

People complain about this all the time. But it’s a video game. How much time do you actually need between pitches? It’s not like YOU have to step out of the box and get signs from your coach or something? When is it enough time? If the game allows me to select the pitch and throw it, then I’m doing it. I’ve never felt I didn’t have enough time between pitches when I was batting.

The obvious answer to your question is “a little more than you are giving me”.

I mean how hard is that? I’ve played somewhere under a hundred games of ranked and a bunch of BR and CL games. The amount of times my opponents pitch too fast, I could count on one hand, so the evidence suggests that you guys that insist on playing this way are in the minority by far.

It’s not too surprising to see that you are also a very vocal and intolerant group. The game requires two players to play successfully online.

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No pitcher has to come set with 0 runners on base, number 2 the OP is talking about base running be the issue with the quick pitching when runners are on base not coming set is should be a balk, Balks are turned Off, I can see giving 3 seconds when runners are on base.

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@halfbutt_psn said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

@lord_blumpkin35 said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

@halfbutt_psn said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

@eatyum_psn said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

@halfbutt_psn said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

My point was that OP described his experience facing an opponent that “quick pitched” him and Lord Bumpkin gaslighted him. I did not use the term incorrectly.

He then called me out for being negative and not quoting him, so I quoted him and reiterated what I said.

I know what gaslighting means. Anyone can look it up.

Maybe it was harsh, but I don’t think it was inaccurate. Lord Bumpkin was trying to discredit OP’s point of view, and then he also tried to discredit me when I called him out.

To play devils advocate, is calling his point of view gaslighting also gaslighting then? Since you are in fact, discrediting his point of view by dismissing it as gaslighting?

Obviously he started it, not OP or you, I'm just saying since what we are discussing is very much opinion based, not fact based.

If I stole your cookie, and then told you that you just forgot you ate it, that is gaslighting. But here there really isn't something verifiable like that, it's all based on opinions on whether "quick pitching" is unsportsmanlike or not

Personally, I don’t like when my opponent takes too long to come to the plate, as some will do. I will step out with the D pad usually, but that only works once, and then I just have to wait.

If my opponent is pitching too fast, it is a similar situation, I can hold R2 I suppose, to have a bit more time but again, you can only do it for so long and it is generally frowned upon.

IT is not THAT hard to take slightly more time between pitches. I am only saying this because a solid 80% of my opponents do not pitch at me like a machine gun.

I said Lord Bumpkin was gaslighting because he was not acknowledging that he himself does what OP was describing, and he was turning it around on OP, suggesting that OP was in fact in the wrong.

Now if we are going to give Bumpkin the benefit of the doubt and say he just likes to play really fast and isn’t in fact trying to gain any advantage over his opponents by doing so, then fine.

It still doesn’t explain why the vast majority of players do NOT play the game at lightning speed, or why Bumpkin finds it so difficult to slow down his pitch delivery slightly if his opponents are complaining about it.

amusing you cant quote me and continually mention me. how many times have I ever been messaged slow down pitching: 0. how many times have ppl complained about pauses and holding R2 on here: endless.
my "original comment " was asking what it was. there was no attack so figure it out, learn to google, and learn what gas lighting means. also people here dont understand what quickpitching is and it demonstrates a lack of playing baseball at anything beyond high school

By your tone and replies, I can tell this conversation is going nowhere.

I am fully capable of using Google, and I know what gaslighting is.

I would suggest that you are not nearly as interested in hearing what OP or myself might actually be saying as you are in appearing to be the winner of some argument on here.

What a surprise.

dont get the insults youre hurling towards so yeah man do whatever you gotta do to make yourself feel better

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@lord_blumpkin35 said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

@halfbutt_psn said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

@lord_blumpkin35 said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

@halfbutt_psn said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

@eatyum_psn said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

@halfbutt_psn said in Along the lines of pitching, no more balks SDS!:

My point was that OP described his experience facing an opponent that “quick pitched” him and Lord Bumpkin gaslighted him. I did not use the term incorrectly.

He then called me out for being negative and not quoting him, so I quoted him and reiterated what I said.

I know what gaslighting means. Anyone can look it up.

Maybe it was harsh, but I don’t think it was inaccurate. Lord Bumpkin was trying to discredit OP’s point of view, and then he also tried to discredit me when I called him out.

To play devils advocate, is calling his point of view gaslighting also gaslighting then? Since you are in fact, discrediting his point of view by dismissing it as gaslighting?

Obviously he started it, not OP or you, I'm just saying since what we are discussing is very much opinion based, not fact based.

If I stole your cookie, and then told you that you just forgot you ate it, that is gaslighting. But here there really isn't something verifiable like that, it's all based on opinions on whether "quick pitching" is unsportsmanlike or not

Personally, I don’t like when my opponent takes too long to come to the plate, as some will do. I will step out with the D pad usually, but that only works once, and then I just have to wait.

If my opponent is pitching too fast, it is a similar situation, I can hold R2 I suppose, to have a bit more time but again, you can only do it for so long and it is generally frowned upon.

IT is not THAT hard to take slightly more time between pitches. I am only saying this because a solid 80% of my opponents do not pitch at me like a machine gun.

I said Lord Bumpkin was gaslighting because he was not acknowledging that he himself does what OP was describing, and he was turning it around on OP, suggesting that OP was in fact in the wrong.

Now if we are going to give Bumpkin the benefit of the doubt and say he just likes to play really fast and isn’t in fact trying to gain any advantage over his opponents by doing so, then fine.

It still doesn’t explain why the vast majority of players do NOT play the game at lightning speed, or why Bumpkin finds it so difficult to slow down his pitch delivery slightly if his opponents are complaining about it.

amusing you cant quote me and continually mention me. how many times have I ever been messaged slow down pitching: 0. how many times have ppl complained about pauses and holding R2 on here: endless.
my "original comment " was asking what it was. there was no attack so figure it out, learn to google, and learn what gas lighting means. also people here dont understand what quickpitching is and it demonstrates a lack of playing baseball at anything beyond high school

By your tone and replies, I can tell this conversation is going nowhere.

I am fully capable of using Google, and I know what gaslighting is.

I would suggest that you are not nearly as interested in hearing what OP or myself might actually be saying as you are in appearing to be the winner of some argument on here.

What a surprise.

dont get the insults youre hurling towards so yeah man do whatever you gotta do to make yourself feel better

Care to give an example of an “insult” I have “hurled” at you at any point of this conversation?

I said you were gaslighting the dude. Then I gave you the benefit of the doubt, then I said you sound more interested in winning an argument than hearing what OP or myself had to say.

I don’t consider any of those to be insults.

Why so adversarial?