Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.
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I will eventually get betts as I collect cards from TA4 and other programs to come. But I will not spend a dime actually unlocking him never worth it.
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I started slow with him. My avg was near .130. I put him all over in my line up. I usually don’t do well with collection rewards for some reason. I finally went into practice mode against Nolan. I think I was able to figure out his swing after a few grueling hours lol. I now have his avg around .240.
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@rosborn27_psn said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:
I was just telling someone today that Betts is the single best card in the game. Have him Parallel 5 and his average is well over 400 for me (all All Star Events but still - 202 Online ABs, .413, 26 HR). To each their own but Mookie is definitely not broken.
Just out of curiosity, would you say that you're a "pull" hitter in MLBTS? Personally, I'm a "Derek Jeter" type and hit the ball to the opposite field a lot. Probably because I'm old and my reflexes ain't what they used to be.
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Mookie hits some crazy line drive home runs but he does tend to pop out a lot. I'd be hard pressed to find a better player that plays so many positions at a high level though.
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I never can seem to find where it shows if players are classified as a "pull hitter". Can you find it outside of in game?
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Betts is my best hitter. I think some people might struggle with him because he is a pull hitter and inside outlier gives some people fits. If you can hit inside heat, this card mashes.
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@t-rox_09_mlbts said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:
@vk_ratliff_psn said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:
I just got done playing an Event game against a dude with a World Series icon and a 12-0 banner. His leadoff hitter was Mookie Betts, and I got a little glimpse of his numbers with him. He was hitting .225 with Betts.
I immediately knew I was up against a monster, cause my own batting average with Betts is .161, and I've used him enough to get him to P4.
I don't think I've ever played anyone that was hitting well with Betts. Anyone with decent numbers with Betts has at least 6 other players on their team with even better numbers, IMO.
So we can conclude that this Betts card can't hit, which isn't a surprise, cause no Betts card has ever been very good. But why?
2 Part Theory:
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Betts is a RHH and Degrom and Cabrera are both RHP. Relevant particularly for this event, but also overall. In my case, five out of six online at bats have been against RHP, and this is a large sample size. So that's tuff. But Marcus Semien is also a RHH, so there must be more, and that's this:
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Betts is classified as an "extreme pull" hitter. Have you ever tried to pull a ball in this game? Any swing even a millimeter on the early side of perfect, on any ball down the middle or anywhere inside, high or low, will be pulled foul. Perfect/perfect foul balls (always on the pull side) are a thing in this game. This results in all of Betts' best contact simply sailing harmlessly foul on the pull side.
Conclusion:
Betts is a liability at the plate. If you can hit with Betts and have good stats with him, I might believe you, but first show me your stats with Semien. I guarantee you Betts is doing worse. The conclusion is, avoid pull hitters.Interesting. I have Betts at parallel 5 and am hitting like .265 with him. I have semien parallel 3 and am batting around .350 with him. If Betts wasn't a collection reward, let's say he was a WS or inning boss, he wouldn't even be on my squad. I use him out of guilt. He will eventually be on the bench as a lefty killer/pinch runner/defensive replacement.
If you only have p3 with Semien, it leads me to believe that you stopped using him in ranked a while ago. Meaning his at bats were earlier in the year when the pitching was not elite. Batting 350 against Corben Burns and Crochet is not better than 265 against Verlander and Degrom.
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@arvcpa_psn said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:
@rosborn27_psn said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:
I was just telling someone today that Betts is the single best card in the game. Have him Parallel 5 and his average is well over 400 for me (all All Star Events but still - 202 Online ABs, .413, 26 HR). To each their own but Mookie is definitely not broken.
Just out of curiosity, would you say that you're a "pull" hitter in MLBTS? Personally, I'm a "Derek Jeter" type and hit the ball to the opposite field a lot. Probably because I'm old and my reflexes ain't what they used to be.
So I play on a monitor (44 so need all the help I can get with timing) so it’s a bit easier to be early. I generally cheat my PCI down and in with righty hitters so am deliberately trying to be early - yes. Just seems like in general you are rewarded a lot more for being early. Nothing worse though than being “too early” and getting that gut punch HR foul….
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I usually have my pci up and in with all hitters but I found that with Mookie I can set it middle in and react better to the slider while still turning on the up and in fastball.
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@vk_ratliff_psn said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:
I guess I’m lucky, my BA with Betts is around .320.
and with Semien?
I can’t remember exactly but it is somewhere between 330 and 345. I only used Semien in events, meaning all star games only. I still think Mookie is the better card tho
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I remember making a post asking if there was any need to go after mookie with TA 4 out and everyone (including people in this thread calling him terrible) said he was the best card in the game blah blah. Everyone hits different with different players, but I am glad I haven’t dumped stubs into him now.
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@koufax_yourself said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:
@t-rox_09_mlbts said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:
@vk_ratliff_psn said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:
I just got done playing an Event game against a dude with a World Series icon and a 12-0 banner. His leadoff hitter was Mookie Betts, and I got a little glimpse of his numbers with him. He was hitting .225 with Betts.
I immediately knew I was up against a monster, cause my own batting average with Betts is .161, and I've used him enough to get him to P4.
I don't think I've ever played anyone that was hitting well with Betts. Anyone with decent numbers with Betts has at least 6 other players on their team with even better numbers, IMO.
So we can conclude that this Betts card can't hit, which isn't a surprise, cause no Betts card has ever been very good. But why?
2 Part Theory:
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Betts is a RHH and Degrom and Cabrera are both RHP. Relevant particularly for this event, but also overall. In my case, five out of six online at bats have been against RHP, and this is a large sample size. So that's tuff. But Marcus Semien is also a RHH, so there must be more, and that's this:
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Betts is classified as an "extreme pull" hitter. Have you ever tried to pull a ball in this game? Any swing even a millimeter on the early side of perfect, on any ball down the middle or anywhere inside, high or low, will be pulled foul. Perfect/perfect foul balls (always on the pull side) are a thing in this game. This results in all of Betts' best contact simply sailing harmlessly foul on the pull side.
Conclusion:
Betts is a liability at the plate. If you can hit with Betts and have good stats with him, I might believe you, but first show me your stats with Semien. I guarantee you Betts is doing worse. The conclusion is, avoid pull hitters.Interesting. I have Betts at parallel 5 and am hitting like .265 with him. I have semien parallel 3 and am batting around .350 with him. If Betts wasn't a collection reward, let's say he was a WS or inning boss, he wouldn't even be on my squad. I use him out of guilt. He will eventually be on the bench as a lefty killer/pinch runner/defensive replacement.
If you only have p3 with Semien, it leads me to believe that you stopped using him in ranked a while ago. Meaning his at bats were earlier in the year when the pitching was not elite. Batting 350 against Corben Burns and Crochet is not better than 265 against Verlander and Degrom.
That's a good point. I stopped using Semien because of other cards like jackie, wander and chipper.
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@t-rox_09_mlbts said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:
@koufax_yourself said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:
@t-rox_09_mlbts said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:
@vk_ratliff_psn said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:
I just got done playing an Event game against a dude with a World Series icon and a 12-0 banner. His leadoff hitter was Mookie Betts, and I got a little glimpse of his numbers with him. He was hitting .225 with Betts.
I immediately knew I was up against a monster, cause my own batting average with Betts is .161, and I've used him enough to get him to P4.
I don't think I've ever played anyone that was hitting well with Betts. Anyone with decent numbers with Betts has at least 6 other players on their team with even better numbers, IMO.
So we can conclude that this Betts card can't hit, which isn't a surprise, cause no Betts card has ever been very good. But why?
2 Part Theory:
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Betts is a RHH and Degrom and Cabrera are both RHP. Relevant particularly for this event, but also overall. In my case, five out of six online at bats have been against RHP, and this is a large sample size. So that's tuff. But Marcus Semien is also a RHH, so there must be more, and that's this:
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Betts is classified as an "extreme pull" hitter. Have you ever tried to pull a ball in this game? Any swing even a millimeter on the early side of perfect, on any ball down the middle or anywhere inside, high or low, will be pulled foul. Perfect/perfect foul balls (always on the pull side) are a thing in this game. This results in all of Betts' best contact simply sailing harmlessly foul on the pull side.
Conclusion:
Betts is a liability at the plate. If you can hit with Betts and have good stats with him, I might believe you, but first show me your stats with Semien. I guarantee you Betts is doing worse. The conclusion is, avoid pull hitters.Interesting. I have Betts at parallel 5 and am hitting like .265 with him. I have semien parallel 3 and am batting around .350 with him. If Betts wasn't a collection reward, let's say he was a WS or inning boss, he wouldn't even be on my squad. I use him out of guilt. He will eventually be on the bench as a lefty killer/pinch runner/defensive replacement.
If you only have p3 with Semien, it leads me to believe that you stopped using him in ranked a while ago. Meaning his at bats were earlier in the year when the pitching was not elite. Batting 350 against Corben Burns and Crochet is not better than 265 against Verlander and Degrom.
That's a good point. I stopped using Semien because of other cards like jackie, wander and chipper.
You tried fixing what wasn't broken.
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@vk_ratliff_psn said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:
@t-rox_09_mlbts said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:
@koufax_yourself said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:
@t-rox_09_mlbts said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:
@vk_ratliff_psn said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:
I just got done playing an Event game against a dude with a World Series icon and a 12-0 banner. His leadoff hitter was Mookie Betts, and I got a little glimpse of his numbers with him. He was hitting .225 with Betts.
I immediately knew I was up against a monster, cause my own batting average with Betts is .161, and I've used him enough to get him to P4.
I don't think I've ever played anyone that was hitting well with Betts. Anyone with decent numbers with Betts has at least 6 other players on their team with even better numbers, IMO.
So we can conclude that this Betts card can't hit, which isn't a surprise, cause no Betts card has ever been very good. But why?
2 Part Theory:
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Betts is a RHH and Degrom and Cabrera are both RHP. Relevant particularly for this event, but also overall. In my case, five out of six online at bats have been against RHP, and this is a large sample size. So that's tuff. But Marcus Semien is also a RHH, so there must be more, and that's this:
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Betts is classified as an "extreme pull" hitter. Have you ever tried to pull a ball in this game? Any swing even a millimeter on the early side of perfect, on any ball down the middle or anywhere inside, high or low, will be pulled foul. Perfect/perfect foul balls (always on the pull side) are a thing in this game. This results in all of Betts' best contact simply sailing harmlessly foul on the pull side.
Conclusion:
Betts is a liability at the plate. If you can hit with Betts and have good stats with him, I might believe you, but first show me your stats with Semien. I guarantee you Betts is doing worse. The conclusion is, avoid pull hitters.Interesting. I have Betts at parallel 5 and am hitting like .265 with him. I have semien parallel 3 and am batting around .350 with him. If Betts wasn't a collection reward, let's say he was a WS or inning boss, he wouldn't even be on my squad. I use him out of guilt. He will eventually be on the bench as a lefty killer/pinch runner/defensive replacement.
If you only have p3 with Semien, it leads me to believe that you stopped using him in ranked a while ago. Meaning his at bats were earlier in the year when the pitching was not elite. Batting 350 against Corben Burns and Crochet is not better than 265 against Verlander and Degrom.
That's a good point. I stopped using Semien because of other cards like jackie, wander and chipper.
You tried fixing what wasn't broken.
Not really I much prefer those other three cards over semien. His contact vs Lefty is too low for higher difficulties at this point in the game
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you're judging a card by attributes, and you know that's the wrong way to do it.
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@vk_ratliff_psn said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:
you're judging a card by attributes, and you know that's the wrong way to do it.
Lol thanks for the advice bro
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Betts is the only hitter than I actively try to miss inside with the PCI on. He always hits better for me when the ball is on the right-hand corner/side of the PCI. Lol at anywhere else.
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@rosborn27_psn said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:
I was just telling someone today that Betts is the single best card in the game. Have him Parallel 5 and his average is well over 400 for me (all All Star Events but still - 202 Online ABs, .413, 26 HR). To each their own but Mookie is definitely not broken.
I second this. Betts is hitting .400 for me with a HR every 7.5 ABs. (isn’t great but not bad) I also only play events/BR. He started out really bad though going like 1/11 but then exploded over his next 150 ABs. I love the way his swing looks. To me his swing is very similar to Acuna’s but for some reason I’m only hitting .265 with Acuna. Mookie will most likely be my end game 2B.
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@crashbowman447_psn said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:
I never can seem to find where it shows if players are classified as a "pull hitter". Can you find it outside of in game?
You do it while you’re in a game. When the specific batter you are wondering about comes up to bat, press pause and look down where it shows his AVG/H/HR stats and you’ll see weather they are pull/balanced/push hitters.
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My biggest question with him is how did they change him from last year. Mookie's live series card last year was a glitch. I'm not sure if they changed his swing or quirks. Last year he also had ridiculous reverse splits so maybe that is what made the card. It a shame because he is one of my favs irl. Unfortunately there are better options. However, his defense is second to none.
