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Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.

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  • VK_Ratliff_PSNV Offline
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    #1

    I just got done playing an Event game against a dude with a World Series icon and a 12-0 banner. His leadoff hitter was Mookie Betts, and I got a little glimpse of his numbers with him. He was hitting .225 with Betts.

    I immediately knew I was up against a monster, cause my own batting average with Betts is .161, and I've used him enough to get him to P4.

    I don't think I've ever played anyone that was hitting well with Betts. Anyone with decent numbers with Betts has at least 6 other players on their team with even better numbers, IMO.

    So we can conclude that this Betts card can't hit, which isn't a surprise, cause no Betts card has ever been very good. But why?

    2 Part Theory:

    • Betts is a RHH and Degrom and Cabrera are both RHP. Relevant particularly for this event, but also overall. In my case, five out of six online at bats have been against RHP, and this is a large sample size. So that's tuff. But Marcus Semien is also a RHH, so there must be more, and that's this:

    • Betts is classified as an "extreme pull" hitter. Have you ever tried to pull a ball in this game? Any swing even a millimeter on the early side of perfect, on any ball down the middle or anywhere inside, high or low, will be pulled foul. Perfect/perfect foul balls (always on the pull side) are a thing in this game. This results in all of Betts' best contact simply sailing harmlessly foul on the pull side.

    Conclusion:
    Betts is a liability at the plate. If you can hit with Betts and have good stats with him, I might believe you, but first show me your stats with Semien. I guarantee you Betts is doing worse. The conclusion is, avoid pull hitters.

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  • Dyerwolf4_XBLD Offline
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    My god, you just cracked the code!

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  • MadDogTannen777_XBLM Offline
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    @vk_ratliff_psn said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:

    I just got done playing an Event game against a dude with a World Series icon and a 12-0 banner. His leadoff hitter was Mookie Betts, and I got a little glimpse of his numbers with him. He was hitting .225 with Betts.

    I immediately knew I was up against a monster, cause my own batting average with Betts is .161, and I've used him enough to get him to P4.

    I don't think I've ever played anyone that was hitting well with Betts. Anyone with decent numbers with Betts has at least 6 other players on their team with even better numbers, IMO.

    So we can conclude that this Betts card can't hit, which isn't a surprise, cause no Betts card has ever been very good. But why?

    2 Part Theory:

    • Betts is a RHH and Degrom and Cabrera are both RHP. Relevant particularly for this event, but also overall. In my case, five out of six online at bats have been against RHP, and this is a large sample size. So that's tuff. But Marcus Semien is also a RHH, so there must be more, and that's this:

    • Betts is classified as an "extreme pull" hitter. Have you ever tried to pull a ball in this game? Any swing even a millimeter on the early side of perfect, on any ball down the middle or anywhere inside, high or low, will be pulled foul. Perfect/perfect foul balls (always on the pull side) are a thing in this game. This results in all of Betts' best contact simply sailing harmlessly foul on the pull side.

    Conclusion:
    Betts is a liability at the plate. If you can hit with Betts and have good stats with him, I might believe you, but first show me your stats with Semien. I guarantee you Betts is doing worse. The conclusion is, avoid pull hitters.

    Yeah, I continue to "try" with Betts, even though I am terrible with him. And the only reason I am is because I feel like I "have' too, because of all the cards we had to use with him.

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  • T-rox_09_MLBTST Offline
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    @vk_ratliff_psn said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:

    I just got done playing an Event game against a dude with a World Series icon and a 12-0 banner. His leadoff hitter was Mookie Betts, and I got a little glimpse of his numbers with him. He was hitting .225 with Betts.

    I immediately knew I was up against a monster, cause my own batting average with Betts is .161, and I've used him enough to get him to P4.

    I don't think I've ever played anyone that was hitting well with Betts. Anyone with decent numbers with Betts has at least 6 other players on their team with even better numbers, IMO.

    So we can conclude that this Betts card can't hit, which isn't a surprise, cause no Betts card has ever been very good. But why?

    2 Part Theory:

    • Betts is a RHH and Degrom and Cabrera are both RHP. Relevant particularly for this event, but also overall. In my case, five out of six online at bats have been against RHP, and this is a large sample size. So that's tuff. But Marcus Semien is also a RHH, so there must be more, and that's this:

    • Betts is classified as an "extreme pull" hitter. Have you ever tried to pull a ball in this game? Any swing even a millimeter on the early side of perfect, on any ball down the middle or anywhere inside, high or low, will be pulled foul. Perfect/perfect foul balls (always on the pull side) are a thing in this game. This results in all of Betts' best contact simply sailing harmlessly foul on the pull side.

    Conclusion:
    Betts is a liability at the plate. If you can hit with Betts and have good stats with him, I might believe you, but first show me your stats with Semien. I guarantee you Betts is doing worse. The conclusion is, avoid pull hitters.

    Interesting. I have Betts at parallel 5 and am hitting like .265 with him. I have semien parallel 3 and am batting around .350 with him. If Betts wasn't a collection reward, let's say he was a WS or inning boss, he wouldn't even be on my squad. I use him out of guilt. He will eventually be on the bench as a lefty killer/pinch runner/defensive replacement.

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  • MadDogTannen777_XBLM Offline
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    @t-rox_09_mlbts said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:

    @vk_ratliff_psn said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:

    I just got done playing an Event game against a dude with a World Series icon and a 12-0 banner. His leadoff hitter was Mookie Betts, and I got a little glimpse of his numbers with him. He was hitting .225 with Betts.

    I immediately knew I was up against a monster, cause my own batting average with Betts is .161, and I've used him enough to get him to P4.

    I don't think I've ever played anyone that was hitting well with Betts. Anyone with decent numbers with Betts has at least 6 other players on their team with even better numbers, IMO.

    So we can conclude that this Betts card can't hit, which isn't a surprise, cause no Betts card has ever been very good. But why?

    2 Part Theory:

    • Betts is a RHH and Degrom and Cabrera are both RHP. Relevant particularly for this event, but also overall. In my case, five out of six online at bats have been against RHP, and this is a large sample size. So that's tuff. But Marcus Semien is also a RHH, so there must be more, and that's this:

    • Betts is classified as an "extreme pull" hitter. Have you ever tried to pull a ball in this game? Any swing even a millimeter on the early side of perfect, on any ball down the middle or anywhere inside, high or low, will be pulled foul. Perfect/perfect foul balls (always on the pull side) are a thing in this game. This results in all of Betts' best contact simply sailing harmlessly foul on the pull side.

    Conclusion:
    Betts is a liability at the plate. If you can hit with Betts and have good stats with him, I might believe you, but first show me your stats with Semien. I guarantee you Betts is doing worse. The conclusion is, avoid pull hitters.

    Interesting. I have Betts at parallel 5 and am hitting like .265 with him. I have semien parallel 3 and am batting around .350 with him. If Betts wasn't a collection reward, let's say he was a WS or inning boss, he wouldn't even be on my squad. I use him out of guilt. He will eventually be on the bench as a lefty killer/pinch runner/defensive replacement.

    THIS!! EXACTLY! Wouldn't be a starter on my team either. I regret putting all those stubs into him, even though its all gonna go towards Kershaw anyways. Wish Betts couldve been a ticket for Kershaw atleast

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  • dcmo3_PSND Offline
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    @maddogtannen777_xbl said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:

    @t-rox_09_mlbts said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:

    @vk_ratliff_psn said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:

    I just got done playing an Event game against a dude with a World Series icon and a 12-0 banner. His leadoff hitter was Mookie Betts, and I got a little glimpse of his numbers with him. He was hitting .225 with Betts.

    I immediately knew I was up against a monster, cause my own batting average with Betts is .161, and I've used him enough to get him to P4.

    I don't think I've ever played anyone that was hitting well with Betts. Anyone with decent numbers with Betts has at least 6 other players on their team with even better numbers, IMO.

    So we can conclude that this Betts card can't hit, which isn't a surprise, cause no Betts card has ever been very good. But why?

    2 Part Theory:

    • Betts is a RHH and Degrom and Cabrera are both RHP. Relevant particularly for this event, but also overall. In my case, five out of six online at bats have been against RHP, and this is a large sample size. So that's tuff. But Marcus Semien is also a RHH, so there must be more, and that's this:

    • Betts is classified as an "extreme pull" hitter. Have you ever tried to pull a ball in this game? Any swing even a millimeter on the early side of perfect, on any ball down the middle or anywhere inside, high or low, will be pulled foul. Perfect/perfect foul balls (always on the pull side) are a thing in this game. This results in all of Betts' best contact simply sailing harmlessly foul on the pull side.

    Conclusion:
    Betts is a liability at the plate. If you can hit with Betts and have good stats with him, I might believe you, but first show me your stats with Semien. I guarantee you Betts is doing worse. The conclusion is, avoid pull hitters.

    Interesting. I have Betts at parallel 5 and am hitting like .265 with him. I have semien parallel 3 and am batting around .350 with him. If Betts wasn't a collection reward, let's say he was a WS or inning boss, he wouldn't even be on my squad. I use him out of guilt. He will eventually be on the bench as a lefty killer/pinch runner/defensive replacement.

    THIS!! EXACTLY! Wouldn't be a starter on my team either. I regret putting all those stubs into him, even though its all gonna go towards Kershaw anyways. Wish Betts couldve been a ticket for Kershaw atleast

    In a round-a-bout way, he already is a ticket for Kershaw, in that all the categories needed for him, are also needed for Kershaw. Even if he was a ticket, he would be worthless. The numbers required for Kershaw, exceed the category numbers required for Betts, so what good would a Betts ticket be, unless they let you skip two categories for Kershaw.

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  • iBonafideScrub__PSNI Offline
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    I guess I’m lucky, my BA with Betts is around .320.

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  • VK_Ratliff_PSNV Offline
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    @ibonafidescrub_ said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:

    I guess I’m lucky, my BA with Betts is around .320.

    and with Semien?

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  • MadDogTannen777_XBLM Offline
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    @dcmo3_psn said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:

    @maddogtannen777_xbl said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:

    @t-rox_09_mlbts said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:

    @vk_ratliff_psn said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:

    I just got done playing an Event game against a dude with a World Series icon and a 12-0 banner. His leadoff hitter was Mookie Betts, and I got a little glimpse of his numbers with him. He was hitting .225 with Betts.

    I immediately knew I was up against a monster, cause my own batting average with Betts is .161, and I've used him enough to get him to P4.

    I don't think I've ever played anyone that was hitting well with Betts. Anyone with decent numbers with Betts has at least 6 other players on their team with even better numbers, IMO.

    So we can conclude that this Betts card can't hit, which isn't a surprise, cause no Betts card has ever been very good. But why?

    2 Part Theory:

    • Betts is a RHH and Degrom and Cabrera are both RHP. Relevant particularly for this event, but also overall. In my case, five out of six online at bats have been against RHP, and this is a large sample size. So that's tuff. But Marcus Semien is also a RHH, so there must be more, and that's this:

    • Betts is classified as an "extreme pull" hitter. Have you ever tried to pull a ball in this game? Any swing even a millimeter on the early side of perfect, on any ball down the middle or anywhere inside, high or low, will be pulled foul. Perfect/perfect foul balls (always on the pull side) are a thing in this game. This results in all of Betts' best contact simply sailing harmlessly foul on the pull side.

    Conclusion:
    Betts is a liability at the plate. If you can hit with Betts and have good stats with him, I might believe you, but first show me your stats with Semien. I guarantee you Betts is doing worse. The conclusion is, avoid pull hitters.

    Interesting. I have Betts at parallel 5 and am hitting like .265 with him. I have semien parallel 3 and am batting around .350 with him. If Betts wasn't a collection reward, let's say he was a WS or inning boss, he wouldn't even be on my squad. I use him out of guilt. He will eventually be on the bench as a lefty killer/pinch runner/defensive replacement.

    THIS!! EXACTLY! Wouldn't be a starter on my team either. I regret putting all those stubs into him, even though its all gonna go towards Kershaw anyways. Wish Betts couldve been a ticket for Kershaw atleast

    In a round-a-bout way, he already is a ticket for Kershaw, in that all the categories needed for him, are also needed for Kershaw. Even if he was a ticket, he would be worthless. The numbers required for Kershaw, exceed the category numbers required for Betts, so what good would a Betts ticket be, unless they let you skip two categories for Kershaw.

    this would be one less ticket that we would have to come up with for kershaw

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  • arvcpa_PSNA Offline
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    @vk_ratliff_psn said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:

    @ibonafidescrub_ said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:

    I guess I’m lucky, my BA with Betts is around .320.

    and with Semien?

    I'll speak for @iBonafideScrub_ . He's hitting .580 in 600 AB's with Marcus. So, the theory still makes sense.

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  • T-rox_09_MLBTST Offline
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    @maddogtannen777_xbl said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:

    @t-rox_09_mlbts said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:

    @vk_ratliff_psn said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:

    I just got done playing an Event game against a dude with a World Series icon and a 12-0 banner. His leadoff hitter was Mookie Betts, and I got a little glimpse of his numbers with him. He was hitting .225 with Betts.

    I immediately knew I was up against a monster, cause my own batting average with Betts is .161, and I've used him enough to get him to P4.

    I don't think I've ever played anyone that was hitting well with Betts. Anyone with decent numbers with Betts has at least 6 other players on their team with even better numbers, IMO.

    So we can conclude that this Betts card can't hit, which isn't a surprise, cause no Betts card has ever been very good. But why?

    2 Part Theory:

    • Betts is a RHH and Degrom and Cabrera are both RHP. Relevant particularly for this event, but also overall. In my case, five out of six online at bats have been against RHP, and this is a large sample size. So that's tuff. But Marcus Semien is also a RHH, so there must be more, and that's this:

    • Betts is classified as an "extreme pull" hitter. Have you ever tried to pull a ball in this game? Any swing even a millimeter on the early side of perfect, on any ball down the middle or anywhere inside, high or low, will be pulled foul. Perfect/perfect foul balls (always on the pull side) are a thing in this game. This results in all of Betts' best contact simply sailing harmlessly foul on the pull side.

    Conclusion:
    Betts is a liability at the plate. If you can hit with Betts and have good stats with him, I might believe you, but first show me your stats with Semien. I guarantee you Betts is doing worse. The conclusion is, avoid pull hitters.

    Interesting. I have Betts at parallel 5 and am hitting like .265 with him. I have semien parallel 3 and am batting around .350 with him. If Betts wasn't a collection reward, let's say he was a WS or inning boss, he wouldn't even be on my squad. I use him out of guilt. He will eventually be on the bench as a lefty killer/pinch runner/defensive replacement.

    THIS!! EXACTLY! Wouldn't be a starter on my team either. I regret putting all those stubs into him, even though its all gonna go towards Kershaw anyways. Wish Betts couldve been a ticket for Kershaw atleast

    I don't regret getting him because he allowed me to get Kershaw, who I think is amazing, and will then lead to another collection. I don't think Kershaw was the last big collection. At this point, I have 2.5 mil stubs, Kershaw and almost every card in the game except some big boys. I can always buy them if needed. Some youtubers think mookie is the best card in the game and they rake with him. As for me I get a lot of line-out and fly balls that I feel should be hits or hrs. Seems like most of his perfect perfects are singles.

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    I was just telling someone today that Betts is the single best card in the game. Have him Parallel 5 and his average is well over 400 for me (all All Star Events but still - 202 Online ABs, .413, 26 HR). To each their own but Mookie is definitely not broken.

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  • T-rox_09_MLBTST Offline
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    @rosborn27_psn said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:

    I was just telling someone today that Betts is the single best card in the game. Have him Parallel 5 and his average is well over 400 for me (all All Star Events but still). To each their own but Mookie is definitely not broken.

    Lol all all stars events. No card sucks on all star.

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    I kind of wish there was a [censored] emoji next to the heart as I would just selected that for your condescending post vs having to write all these words……

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    My Betts card is almost P4 and I’m hitting .402. Some people play different with each card.

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  • dcmo3_PSND Offline
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    @maddogtannen777_xbl said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:

    @dcmo3_psn said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:

    @maddogtannen777_xbl said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:

    @t-rox_09_mlbts said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:

    @vk_ratliff_psn said in Mookie Betts isn't a very good hitter. I think I know why.:

    I just got done playing an Event game against a dude with a World Series icon and a 12-0 banner. His leadoff hitter was Mookie Betts, and I got a little glimpse of his numbers with him. He was hitting .225 with Betts.

    I immediately knew I was up against a monster, cause my own batting average with Betts is .161, and I've used him enough to get him to P4.

    I don't think I've ever played anyone that was hitting well with Betts. Anyone with decent numbers with Betts has at least 6 other players on their team with even better numbers, IMO.

    So we can conclude that this Betts card can't hit, which isn't a surprise, cause no Betts card has ever been very good. But why?

    2 Part Theory:

    • Betts is a RHH and Degrom and Cabrera are both RHP. Relevant particularly for this event, but also overall. In my case, five out of six online at bats have been against RHP, and this is a large sample size. So that's tuff. But Marcus Semien is also a RHH, so there must be more, and that's this:

    • Betts is classified as an "extreme pull" hitter. Have you ever tried to pull a ball in this game? Any swing even a millimeter on the early side of perfect, on any ball down the middle or anywhere inside, high or low, will be pulled foul. Perfect/perfect foul balls (always on the pull side) are a thing in this game. This results in all of Betts' best contact simply sailing harmlessly foul on the pull side.

    Conclusion:
    Betts is a liability at the plate. If you can hit with Betts and have good stats with him, I might believe you, but first show me your stats with Semien. I guarantee you Betts is doing worse. The conclusion is, avoid pull hitters.

    Interesting. I have Betts at parallel 5 and am hitting like .265 with him. I have semien parallel 3 and am batting around .350 with him. If Betts wasn't a collection reward, let's say he was a WS or inning boss, he wouldn't even be on my squad. I use him out of guilt. He will eventually be on the bench as a lefty killer/pinch runner/defensive replacement.

    THIS!! EXACTLY! Wouldn't be a starter on my team either. I regret putting all those stubs into him, even though its all gonna go towards Kershaw anyways. Wish Betts couldve been a ticket for Kershaw atleast

    In a round-a-bout way, he already is a ticket for Kershaw, in that all the categories needed for him, are also needed for Kershaw. Even if he was a ticket, he would be worthless. The numbers required for Kershaw, exceed the category numbers required for Betts, so what good would a Betts ticket be, unless they let you skip two categories for Kershaw.

    this would be one less ticket that we would have to come up with for kershaw

    Instead of needing 15 out of16, you would need 16 out of 17. It's all a wash.

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    Mookie is another level. Absolutely love this card

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    I hit .400 with betts and like .315 with everyone else at best. Just say you can't hit with short players and go on with your day

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    I think he's pretty excellent. Probably the best all-around card in the game.

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    I was hitting around .200 with him as of yesterday. Worst average by far of anyone in my starting lineup. My TV has been flickering a bit lately, so I switched to my monitor. He went 9/16 with at least 2 homeruns.

    Obviously the monitor helps a bit, but I wasn't exactly struggling when hitting with anyone else. Maybe he needed that extra fraction of a second to really pull the ball.

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