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What's with the PCI animation lying about controller placement nearly every other pitch?

This has been going on for weeks (as long as I've been playing) but I just won a game 2-0 and it seemed to be constant. I would go high middle for a fast ball up. And the animation would show me going high left..and, yes, result would be like a pop-up to the catcher or something.

The most re-occurring is the PCI not moving at all when toggling the controller.

Can this be fixed please? Again, it's a constant reminder that our controller ain't making any decisions. It's the artificial intelligence..let's just call it Hal for a better name. "This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it, I'm afraid I can't move it Dave"

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So if you go into vs CPU and swing middle/middle (not even touching the joystick) it will randomly show different swing locations than middle/middle?

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It's most likely your analog if you are getting analog drift. It also could be that your swinging before your PCI reaches its final destination. So say you are moving your PCI to where the ball is going but you are pressing x to swing simultaneously you could be swinging before your PCI has moved to the location you wanted to bring it to. I do it all the time.

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@namtrah22_psn said in Give me my controller back:

It's most likely your analog if you are getting analog drift. It also could be that your swinging before your PCI reaches its final destination. So say you are moving your PCI to where the ball is going but you are pressing x to swing simultaneously you could be swinging before your PCI has moved to the location you wanted to bring it to. I do it all the time.

I know drift. I just replaced a PS5 controller that had drift...on ALL games.

Can't say I'm not hitting "X" while moving my swing. But, the problem with that theory is..I'm moving the controller straight up...why would it show my final position as up right?

But, I'm not going to call someone wrong that's trying to help. Will pay really close attention and make sure that isn't what's going on, but I'm pretty sure it's not.

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@genopolanco_psn said in Give me my controller back:

So if you go into vs CPU and swing middle/middle (not even touching the joystick) it will randomly show different swing locations than middle/middle?

I've not noticed much of that.

But, it's the other side..I do move my swing and the animation shows it staying middle/middle. That's by far the most common.

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@ironeyes_cody_psn said in Give me my controller back:

@namtrah22_psn said in Give me my controller back:

It's most likely your analog if you are getting analog drift. It also could be that your swinging before your PCI reaches its final destination. So say you are moving your PCI to where the ball is going but you are pressing x to swing simultaneously you could be swinging before your PCI has moved to the location you wanted to bring it to. I do it all the time.

I know drift. I just replaced a PS5 controller that had drift...on ALL games.

Can't say I'm not hitting "X" while moving my swing. But, the problem with that theory is..I'm moving the controller straight up...why would it show my final position as up right?

But, I'm not going to call someone wrong that's trying to help. Will pay really close attention and make sure that isn't what's going on, but I'm pretty sure it's not.

You’d be surprised. The PCI is pretty sensitive so the slightest movement right while bringing it up on top of swinging before the PCI is where it’s intended to be would definitely cause it. It’s something that happens to me and I’ve been trying to be more conscious of it. But catching up to 102 heaters is tough while also whacking your PCI to the correct location.

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@namtrah22_psn said in Give me my controller back:

@ironeyes_cody_psn said in Give me my controller back:

@namtrah22_psn said in Give me my controller back:

It's most likely your analog if you are getting analog drift. It also could be that your swinging before your PCI reaches its final destination. So say you are moving your PCI to where the ball is going but you are pressing x to swing simultaneously you could be swinging before your PCI has moved to the location you wanted to bring it to. I do it all the time.

I know drift. I just replaced a PS5 controller that had drift...on ALL games.

Can't say I'm not hitting "X" while moving my swing. But, the problem with that theory is..I'm moving the controller straight up...why would it show my final position as up right?

But, I'm not going to call someone wrong that's trying to help. Will pay really close attention and make sure that isn't what's going on, but I'm pretty sure it's not.

You’d be surprised. The PCI is pretty sensitive so the slightest movement right while bringing it up on top of swinging before the PCI is where it’s intended to be would definitely cause it. It’s something that happens to me and I’ve been trying to be more conscious of it. But catching up to 102 heaters is tough while also whacking your PCI to the correct location.

It's a reach to think the software would go as far as disregarding your intended placement to justify your swing was off so it could animate "out" results. That's why I was asking if anyone else was experiencing this. Also, I'm not sure anything is really a reach.

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Varying amounts of early will pull your swing higher and inside, varying amounts of late will pull your swing lower and outside. It's how a swing goes in real life, and it's built into the game. Could this be what you're experiencing?

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@sheyworth_xbl said in Give me my controller back:

Varying amounts of early will pull your swing higher and inside, varying amounts of late will pull your swing lower and outside. It's how a swing goes in real life, and it's built into the game. Could this be what you're experiencing?

It's nothing like that. My PCI is actually sitting still sometimes after I move my controller to catch up to a ball. Sometimes it goes left-low when I try to go straight left. Sometimes high-right when I go straight up.

"How a swing goes in real life" is nothing like the game depicts your swing most of the time anyway.

Sounds like that's another one of those pile on the variables to justify sketchy behavior in the game. Just say it's coded this way for a legitimate reason and add some techno-babble to make it sound good. Some call it "Baffle 'em with BullCheese".

Thanks for the assistance, but doesn't apply. And, no offense, but you're response just doesn't ring true.

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I had this issue found out it was my controller messing up bought a new one and it’s been better

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What you are describing is exactly the direction your thumb naturally moves the way you have it positioned on the thumbstick when you move in a hurry. Sometimes I try to make sure my thumb is directly under my thumbstick to prevent me from moving in those directions. But usually end up back in the most comfortable spot were my thumbs on the stick in an angle coming up from about 7 or 8 o'clock.
And the PCI not moving is most likely just hitting "swing" too fast, again because of acting quickly, so you are actually mashing swing button before moving your PCI enough for it to register and not noticing.

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I'm a first year user so I still have a hard time getting my timing right. Meaning that I will push x, a, or b before I get my pci exactly where I want it. So it gives the illusion that it didn't go where I want it to, but realistically it is me pushing my swing button before I get my pci located correctly... took me over a month to figure this to begin with, so I'm still getting it down and there are times I still forget about it lol

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@xbashxdaddy23 said in Give me my controller back:

I had this issue found out it was my controller messing up bought a new one and it’s been better

This happens the same on 3 controllers. I always have a spare. Nothing like this in any other game I play.

I will say this, I'm not the first person to post about controller PCI not animating correctly (placement issues). So, it's not just me. Also went back and found a couple old threads on it from previous releases. So, it doesn't appear to be a brand new issue.

But, I didn't notice it as much when I first started playing this year as the last 2-3 weeks. It's nearly 50%, especially online, of the time I'm not getting perfect feedback. In a game where everything is determined by your swing accuracy....if it ain't picking up placement (accidentally or purposely), you're handicapped.

No big deal, I believe it to just be part of the entire experience HAL lays out there for us. Goes right along with "early", "late", "too early", "too late" that isn't close to consistent. Audio that accompanies it..Crack -perfect, dull thump-"too early/too-late".

It's just whatever they artificially brew up to justify the resulting animation. Showing your intended swing (where you know you moved the controller) off an inch is enough to justify the pop up, strike-out, or sometimes homerun.

Probably works to my advantage on occasion. That's all you can ask for when HAL is handing out gifts. That they go both ways.

That's my theory.

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You're probably hitting swing slightly before moving the stick sometimes or at basically the same time and it's not registering you moving the PCI.

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@ironeyes_cody_psn said in Give me my controller back:

@sheyworth_xbl said in Give me my controller back:

Varying amounts of early will pull your swing higher and inside, varying amounts of late will pull your swing lower and outside. It's how a swing goes in real life, and it's built into the game. Could this be what you're experiencing?

It's nothing like that. My PCI is actually sitting still sometimes after I move my controller to catch up to a ball. Sometimes it goes left-low when I try to go straight left. Sometimes high-right when I go straight up.

"How a swing goes in real life" is nothing like the game depicts your swing most of the time anyway.

Sounds like that's another one of those pile on the variables to justify sketchy behavior in the game. Just say it's coded this way for a legitimate reason and add some techno-babble to make it sound good. Some call it "Baffle 'em with BullCheese".

Thanks for the assistance, but doesn't apply. And, no offense, but you're response just doesn't ring true.

His response rings more true than anything else you are going to get. If you swing early it moves inside (right or left is irrelevant) , if your late it moves outside (again no relevance to left or right) nothing about that is false, if you say you aim high, and it goes high right, and somebody explains it does that based on swing timing I don’t know what more you want. And yes that is exactly how swings go in real life, a perfect swing on an pitch inside is something you only achieve by swinging early, swinging later on balls away is the same, it’s physics and it’s built into the game.

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@charterbus_psn said in Give me my controller back:

@ironeyes_cody_psn said in Give me my controller back:

@sheyworth_xbl said in Give me my controller back:

Varying amounts of early will pull your swing higher and inside, varying amounts of late will pull your swing lower and outside. It's how a swing goes in real life, and it's built into the game. Could this be what you're experiencing?

It's nothing like that. My PCI is actually sitting still sometimes after I move my controller to catch up to a ball. Sometimes it goes left-low when I try to go straight left. Sometimes high-right when I go straight up.

"How a swing goes in real life" is nothing like the game depicts your swing most of the time anyway.

Sounds like that's another one of those pile on the variables to justify sketchy behavior in the game. Just say it's coded this way for a legitimate reason and add some techno-babble to make it sound good. Some call it "Baffle 'em with BullCheese".

Thanks for the assistance, but doesn't apply. And, no offense, but you're response just doesn't ring true.

His response rings more true than anything else you are going to get. If you swing early it moves inside (right or left is irrelevant) , if your late it moves outside (again no relevance to left or right) nothing about that is false, if you say you aim high, and it goes high right, and somebody explains it does that based on swing timing I don’t know what more you want. And yes that is exactly how swings go in real life, a perfect swing on an pitch inside is something you only achieve by swinging early, swinging later on balls away is the same, it’s physics and it’s built into the game.

I believe you're talking about the trajectory of the ball as it leaves the bat based on early/late? I truly hope that's what you're saying.

Because if you're saying the AI interprets your swing and purposely re-places your PCI in a spot where you would have actually made contact if you had swung on time...we might as well all just drop the controllers and let HAL play these games for us.

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@charterbus_psn said in Give me my controller back:

@ironeyes_cody_psn said in Give me my controller back:

@sheyworth_xbl said in Give me my controller back:

Varying amounts of early will pull your swing higher and inside, varying amounts of late will pull your swing lower and outside. It's how a swing goes in real life, and it's built into the game. Could this be what you're experiencing?

It's nothing like that. My PCI is actually sitting still sometimes after I move my controller to catch up to a ball. Sometimes it goes left-low when I try to go straight left. Sometimes high-right when I go straight up.

"How a swing goes in real life" is nothing like the game depicts your swing most of the time anyway.

Sounds like that's another one of those pile on the variables to justify sketchy behavior in the game. Just say it's coded this way for a legitimate reason and add some techno-babble to make it sound good. Some call it "Baffle 'em with BullCheese".

Thanks for the assistance, but doesn't apply. And, no offense, but you're response just doesn't ring true.

His response rings more true than anything else you are going to get. If you swing early it moves inside (right or left is irrelevant) , if your late it moves outside (again no relevance to left or right) nothing about that is false, if you say you aim high, and it goes high right, and somebody explains it does that based on swing timing I don’t know what more you want. And yes that is exactly how swings go in real life, a perfect swing on an pitch inside is something you only achieve by swinging early, swinging later on balls away is the same, it’s physics and it’s built into the game.

I'm really trying to figure out what you 2 guys are trying to say. Most of the pitches I'm talking about aren't even making contact. They are strikes..sometimes balls.

Follow this..ball is pitched..I see it coming in as a high fastball dead center on the top edge. hands react as eyes/brain translate the pitch..pull the controller straight the fruck up to catch that middle fastball. The resulting animation shows a missed strike with my PCI not in the middle of the top...but on the right top-edge. This and many-many variations.

Address just that one scenario with your theory. Does this support what you're telling me? If so, please break it down thoroughly. I'm ready to read this one. I may have just discovered something I never knew about this game.

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@charterbus_psn said in Give me my controller back:

@ironeyes_cody_psn said in Give me my controller back:

@sheyworth_xbl said in Give me my controller back:

Varying amounts of early will pull your swing higher and inside, varying amounts of late will pull your swing lower and outside. It's how a swing goes in real life, and it's built into the game. Could this be what you're experiencing?

It's nothing like that. My PCI is actually sitting still sometimes after I move my controller to catch up to a ball. Sometimes it goes left-low when I try to go straight left. Sometimes high-right when I go straight up.

"How a swing goes in real life" is nothing like the game depicts your swing most of the time anyway.

Sounds like that's another one of those pile on the variables to justify sketchy behavior in the game. Just say it's coded this way for a legitimate reason and add some techno-babble to make it sound good. Some call it "Baffle 'em with BullCheese".

Thanks for the assistance, but doesn't apply. And, no offense, but you're response just doesn't ring true.

His response rings more true than anything else you are going to get. If you swing early it moves inside (right or left is irrelevant) , if your late it moves outside (again no relevance to left or right) nothing about that is false, if you say you aim high, and it goes high right, and somebody explains it does that based on swing timing I don’t know what more you want. And yes that is exactly how swings go in real life, a perfect swing on an pitch inside is something you only achieve by swinging early, swinging later on balls away is the same, it’s physics and it’s built into the game.

Want to add this as well. Same scenario as above. I'll miss that high fast ball middle, yet my PCI placement will be exactly where I moved it high-middle and I'll get a "very late" feedback. Based on what "I believe" you're saying if my swing is "very late" it wouldn't be exactly where I moved the controller would it?

Really, dude, when you throw something as surprising (I'm not sure this is common knowledge) as this out..you really need to create some metrics or something that we can all see the expected results from and start matching it up with what really happens.

To say I'm intrigued is an understatement.

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@ironeyes_cody_psn said in Give me my controller back:

@charterbus_psn said in Give me my controller back:

@ironeyes_cody_psn said in Give me my controller back:

@sheyworth_xbl said in Give me my controller back:

Varying amounts of early will pull your swing higher and inside, varying amounts of late will pull your swing lower and outside. It's how a swing goes in real life, and it's built into the game. Could this be what you're experiencing?

It's nothing like that. My PCI is actually sitting still sometimes after I move my controller to catch up to a ball. Sometimes it goes left-low when I try to go straight left. Sometimes high-right when I go straight up.

"How a swing goes in real life" is nothing like the game depicts your swing most of the time anyway.

Sounds like that's another one of those pile on the variables to justify sketchy behavior in the game. Just say it's coded this way for a legitimate reason and add some techno-babble to make it sound good. Some call it "Baffle 'em with BullCheese".

Thanks for the assistance, but doesn't apply. And, no offense, but you're response just doesn't ring true.

His response rings more true than anything else you are going to get. If you swing early it moves inside (right or left is irrelevant) , if your late it moves outside (again no relevance to left or right) nothing about that is false, if you say you aim high, and it goes high right, and somebody explains it does that based on swing timing I don’t know what more you want. And yes that is exactly how swings go in real life, a perfect swing on an pitch inside is something you only achieve by swinging early, swinging later on balls away is the same, it’s physics and it’s built into the game.

I'm really trying to figure out what you 2 guys are trying to say. Most of the pitches I'm talking about aren't even making contact. They are strikes..sometimes balls.

Follow this..ball is pitched..I see it coming in as a high fastball dead center on the top edge. hands react as eyes/brain translate the pitch..pull the controller straight the fruck up to catch that middle fastball. The resulting animation shows a missed strike with my PCI not in the middle of the top...but on the right top-edge. This and many-many variations.

Address just that one scenario with your theory. Does this support what you're telling me? If so, please break it down thoroughly. I'm ready to read this one. I may have just discovered something I never knew about this game.

All I’m saying is if you pull your PCI straight up but are very early, the PCI will shift inside, not the entire zone but it does. And this is implemented for pitches inside, not on the black, but two inches inside. To hit that pitch well, you will need to be early, the PCI will only reach the edge of the zone, so to hit a ball dead centre OFF the zone, you would need to be early.

I honestly don’t look at my PCI on pitches I take for balls or strikes, it could be off. I’m only speaking about the PCI placement on very early or very late swings, it receives and additional shift inside or outside.

If you feedback is truly that far off it’s most likely input delay and lag. I know how sensitive the movement is, I usually purchase a new controller every year even though my others games have no issues. If your controller is new it’s something else but there aren’t many reasons. Lag or user error.

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@ironeyes_cody_psn said in Give me my controller back:

@charterbus_psn said in Give me my controller back:

@ironeyes_cody_psn said in Give me my controller back:

@sheyworth_xbl said in Give me my controller back:

Varying amounts of early will pull your swing higher and inside, varying amounts of late will pull your swing lower and outside. It's how a swing goes in real life, and it's built into the game. Could this be what you're experiencing?

It's nothing like that. My PCI is actually sitting still sometimes after I move my controller to catch up to a ball. Sometimes it goes left-low when I try to go straight left. Sometimes high-right when I go straight up.

"How a swing goes in real life" is nothing like the game depicts your swing most of the time anyway.

Sounds like that's another one of those pile on the variables to justify sketchy behavior in the game. Just say it's coded this way for a legitimate reason and add some techno-babble to make it sound good. Some call it "Baffle 'em with BullCheese".

Thanks for the assistance, but doesn't apply. And, no offense, but you're response just doesn't ring true.

His response rings more true than anything else you are going to get. If you swing early it moves inside (right or left is irrelevant) , if your late it moves outside (again no relevance to left or right) nothing about that is false, if you say you aim high, and it goes high right, and somebody explains it does that based on swing timing I don’t know what more you want. And yes that is exactly how swings go in real life, a perfect swing on an pitch inside is something you only achieve by swinging early, swinging later on balls away is the same, it’s physics and it’s built into the game.

Want to add this as well. Same scenario as above. I'll miss that high fast ball middle, yet my PCI placement will be exactly where I moved it high-middle and I'll get a "very late" feedback. Based on what "I believe" you're saying if my swing is "very late" it wouldn't be exactly where I moved the controller would it?

Really, dude, when you throw something as surprising (I'm not sure this is common knowledge) as this out..you really need to create some metrics or something that we can all see the expected results from and start matching it up with what really happens.

To say I'm intrigued is an understatement.

They are telling the truth. But I don't think this is what causes your issues. If it is not stick drift the most likely scenario is that you aren't moving the left stick where you think you are. Happens to me from time to time, just have to get reoriented and things go back to normal