It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now
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@chuck_dizzle29 said in It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now:
Man there are some plot holes here lmao. First and foremost, ratings for the beginning of this year were built on a three year average, the most recent season is weighted the most.
Marcus Semien was outstanding in 2019, but in 2018 and 2020 was a below league average hitter in both OPS and wRC+. Not only that, but to start 2021 in his first 95 ABs through March/April he hit .211 and slugged a whopping .368.
Yes he should probably be the the POTM for May. But one month doesn't erase two below average years (2018 & 2020) nor the slow start he had this year.
Using Trea Turner as a comp doesn't help Semien at all. The last three years Turner has averaged an OPS+ of 117, he's been better than league average since 2015. He's got way more speed which helps his overall as a SS. Turner was fantastic last year and has started off this year the same way. When Semien was sucking eggs to start the year, Turner has been hitting over .300 for the whole year so far with 10 HR.
Semien is a better defender, which is reflected in both their fielding attributes. Arm strength isn't really measured well, but Semien's fielding ratings aren't really due to arm strength, but to his good range and ability.
Will Semien return to diamond, sure if he continues to pay like he is. Should that have any affect on Trea Turner or should he be considered better than Trea Turner, absolutely not.
2018 is no longer accounted into the three years, the three year average, it includes the current year.
Also he would already be a Diamond if he moved to 2B, his actual position, SDS shouldn’t prevent him from going to his deserved position just because they want to keep him gold for some reason, that’s stupid, just make him play the position he plays
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He's about to get a POTM card. I figure folks would be glad he's still gold so he's cheaper.
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@chrono_omega_psn said in It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now:
Was Marcus Semien a Diamond back in 19 when he finished 3rd in mvp voting?
He was a low gold or a silver if I remember correctly I know he was not a diamond tho
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@silverbullet3519 said in It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now:
He's about to get a POTM card. I figure folks would be glad he's still gold so he's cheaper.
That’s just stupid, make him the card he deserves to be, if they moved him back to 2B he’d be a diamond already
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@kdclemson_psn said in It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now:
@silverbullet3519 said in It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now:
He's about to get a POTM card. I figure folks would be glad he's still gold so he's cheaper.
That’s just stupid, make him the card he deserves to be, if they moved him back to 2B he’d be a diamond already
Don't get mad at me I don't make the decisions lol. I'm sure he'll get upgraded on the next roster update. Also I'm sure he's incredibly thankful to have you fighting for his honor.
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@silverbullet3519 said in It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now:
@kdclemson_psn said in It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now:
@silverbullet3519 said in It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now:
He's about to get a POTM card. I figure folks would be glad he's still gold so he's cheaper.
That’s just stupid, make him the card he deserves to be, if they moved him back to 2B he’d be a diamond already
Don't get mad at me I don't make the decisions lol. I'm sure he'll get upgraded on the next roster update. Also I'm sure he's incredibly thankful to have you fighting for his honor.
Practice the law? I practically perfected it.
I see injustice in the world and I’ve corrected it. -
What i have found out on this site is that way to many people put to much emphasis on sabermetrics and not the eye test or the pure numbers. Sabermetrics are just a tool..
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Travesty is bailout money going to shareholders; this is just irrelevant
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Because WAR is a stupid stat
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I really hope that they don’t mess this up and try to compensate with a POTM card, just make him dismond
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@kdclemson_psn said in It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now:
@silverbullet3519 said in It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now:
@kdclemson_psn said in It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now:
@silverbullet3519 said in It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now:
He's about to get a POTM card. I figure folks would be glad he's still gold so he's cheaper.
That’s just stupid, make him the card he deserves to be, if they moved him back to 2B he’d be a diamond already
Don't get mad at me I don't make the decisions lol. I'm sure he'll get upgraded on the next roster update. Also I'm sure he's incredibly thankful to have you fighting for his honor.
Practice the law? I practically perfected it.
I see injustice in the world and I’ve corrected it.I am not here for this post, but I am definitely here for a Lin-Manuel quote. I’m honestly SHOCKED to see that on this forum. Huge fan of his since In the Heights. I saw it live on Broadway and was so blown away. Hamilton is great too.
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Jesus, didn't we just have a long thread about this two days ago? Do you think spamming new threads every two days is going to make someone at SDS go "Oh, yeah, we should look at Semien".
He has had a change in every single update so far.
80 to 78 after hitting .216 in April.
78 to 80 after he righted the ship the first half of May
80 to 82 after the second half of May.And my guess is he will get another bump this time. Probably not 3 points. If he keeps it up though he will get there.
You are coming off as a homer or someone who has a lot of stubs invested in Semien.
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@dolenz_psn said in It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now:
Jesus, didn't we just have a long thread about this two days ago? Do you think spamming new threads every two days is going to make someone at SDS go "Oh, yeah, we should look at Semien".
He has had a change in every single update so far.
80 to 78 after hitting .216 in April.
78 to 80 after he righted the ship the first half of May
80 to 82 after the second half of May.And my guess is he will get another bump this time. Probably not 3 points. If he keeps it up though he will get there.
You are coming off as a homer or someone who has a lot of stubs invested in Semien.
The thing is he doesn’t need to be boosted, he simply needs to be moved to his correct position but SDS isn’t doing that for some reason
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@pox911_mlbts said in It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now:
@kdclemson_psn said in It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now:
@silverbullet3519 said in It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now:
@kdclemson_psn said in It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now:
@silverbullet3519 said in It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now:
He's about to get a POTM card. I figure folks would be glad he's still gold so he's cheaper.
That’s just stupid, make him the card he deserves to be, if they moved him back to 2B he’d be a diamond already
Don't get mad at me I don't make the decisions lol. I'm sure he'll get upgraded on the next roster update. Also I'm sure he's incredibly thankful to have you fighting for his honor.
Practice the law? I practically perfected it.
I see injustice in the world and I’ve corrected it.I am not here for this post, but I am definitely here for a Lin-Manuel quote. I’m honestly SHOCKED to see that on this forum. Huge fan of his since In the Heights. I saw it live on Broadway and was so blown away. Hamilton is great too.
I’m just non-stop
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@kdclemson_psn said in It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now:
Contact vs. Righties
Trea Turner has 80 CON V R, Semien has 76. Turner is batting .286 against righties, Semien is batting .307 against righties.
Power vs. Righties
Semien actually leads this one with 78 Power vs. R to Turner's 72. The only issue? Semien has an .895 OPS+ vs. R and Turner has a .781. Semien is .110+ OPS+ better and yet only 6 stats better, what?Contact VS Righties
Turner
2021 - .289
2020 - .322
2019 - .292Semien
2021 - .307
2020 - .222
2018 - .276Power Vs Righties
Turner
2021 - .721 OPS
2020 - .917 OPS
2019 - .862 OPSSemien
2021 - .829 OPS
2020 - .647 OPS
2019 - .876 OPSYou have to stop looking at just this year. They use three years worth of stats to do the ratings. And Yes, at some point they need to move Semien to his correct position.
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@dolenz_psn said in It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now:
@kdclemson_psn said in It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now:
Contact vs. Righties
Trea Turner has 80 CON V R, Semien has 76. Turner is batting .286 against righties, Semien is batting .307 against righties.
Power vs. Righties
Semien actually leads this one with 78 Power vs. R to Turner's 72. The only issue? Semien has an .895 OPS+ vs. R and Turner has a .781. Semien is .110+ OPS+ better and yet only 6 stats better, what?Contact VS Righties
Turner
2021 - .289
2020 - .322
2019 - .292Semien
2021 - .307
2020 - .222
2018 - .276Power Vs Righties
Turner
2021 - .721 OPS
2020 - .917 OPS
2019 - .862 OPSSemien
2021 - .829 OPS
2020 - .647 OPS
2019 - .876 OPSYou have to stop looking at just this year. They use three years worth of stats to do the ratings. And Yes, at some point they need to move Semien to his correct position.
They're live series, if anything this year needs to be weighed more
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@kdclemson_psn said in It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now:
@dolenz_psn said in It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now:
@kdclemson_psn said in It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now:
Contact vs. Righties
Trea Turner has 80 CON V R, Semien has 76. Turner is batting .286 against righties, Semien is batting .307 against righties.
Power vs. Righties
Semien actually leads this one with 78 Power vs. R to Turner's 72. The only issue? Semien has an .895 OPS+ vs. R and Turner has a .781. Semien is .110+ OPS+ better and yet only 6 stats better, what?Contact VS Righties
Turner
2021 - .289
2020 - .322
2019 - .292Semien
2021 - .307
2020 - .222
2018 - .276Power Vs Righties
Turner
2021 - .721 OPS
2020 - .917 OPS
2019 - .862 OPSSemien
2021 - .829 OPS
2020 - .647 OPS
2019 - .876 OPSYou have to stop looking at just this year. They use three years worth of stats to do the ratings. And Yes, at some point they need to move Semien to his correct position.
They're live series, if anything this year needs to be weighed more
It is weighted more, but not to the exclusion of the previous years.
It's not SDS's fault that he is not a diamond. If he had played well in April and not gotten downgraded because of it then he may have already made it to diamond.
And don't tell me that they downgraded him too quickly. They downgraded him based on 1 months worth of play (April). You are advocating that he be upgraded by a large amount based on 1 month of play (May)
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@dolenz_psn said in It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now:
@kdclemson_psn said in It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now:
@dolenz_psn said in It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now:
@kdclemson_psn said in It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now:
Contact vs. Righties
Trea Turner has 80 CON V R, Semien has 76. Turner is batting .286 against righties, Semien is batting .307 against righties.
Power vs. Righties
Semien actually leads this one with 78 Power vs. R to Turner's 72. The only issue? Semien has an .895 OPS+ vs. R and Turner has a .781. Semien is .110+ OPS+ better and yet only 6 stats better, what?Contact VS Righties
Turner
2021 - .289
2020 - .322
2019 - .292Semien
2021 - .307
2020 - .222
2018 - .276Power Vs Righties
Turner
2021 - .721 OPS
2020 - .917 OPS
2019 - .862 OPSSemien
2021 - .829 OPS
2020 - .647 OPS
2019 - .876 OPSYou have to stop looking at just this year. They use three years worth of stats to do the ratings. And Yes, at some point they need to move Semien to his correct position.
They're live series, if anything this year needs to be weighed more
It is weighted more, but not to the exclusion of the previous years.
It's not SDS's fault that he is not a diamond. If he had played well in April and not gotten downgraded because of it then he may have already made it to diamond.
And don't tell me that they downgraded him too quickly. They downgraded him based on 1 months worth of play (April). You are advocating that he be upgraded by a large amount based on 1 month of play (May)
No I'm arguing that he's literally a WAR leader right now and his last full season he was an MVP finalist. 2020 should not be weighed even close to 2019 or 2021
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@kdclemson_psn said in It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now:
@dolenz_psn said in It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now:
@kdclemson_psn said in It is a travesty that Marcus Semien is a gold right now:
Contact vs. Righties
Trea Turner has 80 CON V R, Semien has 76. Turner is batting .286 against righties, Semien is batting .307 against righties.
Power vs. Righties
Semien actually leads this one with 78 Power vs. R to Turner's 72. The only issue? Semien has an .895 OPS+ vs. R and Turner has a .781. Semien is .110+ OPS+ better and yet only 6 stats better, what?Contact VS Righties
Turner
2021 - .289
2020 - .322
2019 - .292Semien
2021 - .307
2020 - .222
2018 - .276Power Vs Righties
Turner
2021 - .721 OPS
2020 - .917 OPS
2019 - .862 OPSSemien
2021 - .829 OPS
2020 - .647 OPS
2019 - .876 OPSYou have to stop looking at just this year. They use three years worth of stats to do the ratings. And Yes, at some point they need to move Semien to his correct position.
They're live series, if anything this year needs to be weighed more
I like this.
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Personal opinion: they should move him to 2B and low diamond. He should be one of the last two POTM cards. The turner analogy is a bit off for a video game as there are attributes (like 99 speed) that reflect physical traits not stats. Even if Turner was hitting .100 he could still have 99 speed and that would prop up his card. I think this gets addressed by bumping his stats all around this update and correcting his position. If the production continues Thales can keep bumping the contact, power etc in subsequent updates.
