Dear Checkswing Master

SDS

Come now and tell me check swings don’t bail out bad hitters.

https://ibb.co/TkpVh2P

SDS

But they weren't fooled OP! They saw it was out if the zone and checkswung with purpose! Can't fool these super leet players.

The biggest take away is look at the called checkswing vs the successful checkswing. 21 successful check swings to 2, called strikes. 21:2. Thats nuts.

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Smh that's awful lol...you're not alone, I know that pain.

SDS

It bails out good hitters if anything and that’s why people hate it, a bad hitter swings at all of those lol. If someone is quick enough to be on 101 mph sinkers high in the zone and pull off when they see a CB dropping out of the zone I’m definitely not going to call them bad, especially with a 26/2 success rate.

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@charterbus_psn said in Dear Checkswing Master:

It bails out good hitters if anything and that’s why people hate it, a bad hitter swings at all of those lol. If someone is quick enough to be on 101 mph sinkers high in the zone and pull off when they see a CB dropping out of the zone I’m definitely not going to call them bad, especially with a 26/2 success rate.

False. There are terrible hitters that use this broken mechanic and get bailed out

SDS

BTW that was my WS game... this guy had his best season capped at 643... now he is all the way up to 780. It doesn’t look like he is past the learning curve btw

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@charterbus_psn said in Dear Checkswing Master:

It bails out good hitters if anything and that’s why people hate it, a bad hitter swings at all of those lol. If someone is quick enough to be on 101 mph sinkers high in the zone and pull off when they see a CB dropping out of the zone I’m definitely not going to call them bad, especially with a 26/2 success rate.

Agreed man, they flail at 80mph because they recognize it

SDS

the higher up in the rankings you get, the less checkswings you will see. you won't see double digits even on legend by the good players.

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@charterbus_psn said in Dear Checkswing Master:

It bails out good hitters if anything and that’s why people hate it, a bad hitter swings at all of those lol. If someone is quick enough to be on 101 mph sinkers high in the zone and pull off when they see a CB dropping out of the zone I’m definitely not going to call them bad, especially with a 26/2 success rate.

No. Just no. You cannot legitimately defend this broken mechanic and say "its working as intended" because nobody can checkswing constantly enough to get a 21:2 ratio in their favor, in prior MLBTS games or IRL.

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No, we don’t have a problem!!!

SDS

I find it hysterical that people defend check swinging because they realize their gameplay is going to take a huge hit.

Let’s face it. Check swings have given a lot of people success they didn’t deserve. It’s that game breaking.

SDS

You know, I don’t disagree with the premise of this thread, but it occurs to me that, while check swings were not as huge of an issue last year (or were they? I don’t remember it being nearly as dramatic) the game still found a way to create parity where there wasn’t any.

Think of it. Every year, there is something. I don’t think check swings are the real problem. I think the paradigm shift of the game designers is the problem.

We’ll see. I predict that even if check swings are “fixed” there will still be lesser players somehow beating better players and no explanation for it other than, “git gud” and, “that’s baseball”.

How’s that for cynical?!

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@halfbutt_psn said in Dear Checkswing Master:

You know, I don’t disagree with the premise of this thread, but it occurs to me that, while check swings were not as huge of an issue last year (or were they? I don’t remember it being nearly as dramatic) the game still found a way to create parity where there wasn’t any.

Think of it. Every year, there is something. I don’t think check swings are the real problem. I think the paradigm shift of the game designers is the problem.

We’ll see. I predict that even if check swings are “fixed” there will still be lesser players somehow beating better players and no explanation for it other than, “git gud” and, “that’s baseball”.

How’s that for cynical?!

You're completely correct. 19 was the line-out fiasco. 18 was power or nothing. 17 was just late be great, and 16 was all animation exploitation. 15 more or less was the same as 16.

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@a_perfectgame said in Dear Checkswing Master:

I find it hysterical that people defend check swinging because they realize their gameplay is going to take a huge hit.

Let’s face it. Check swings have given a lot of people success they didn’t deserve. It’s that game breaking.

When I play against those checkswing masters I get mad if I lose because I know they got a lot of opportunities they did not deserve... then I think that hopefully they will strike out a lot in TS21 if SDS can fix this. Getting away from a bad habit is one the most difficult things to do.

SDS

All I will say is I hope we don't see SDS change away from what was seen in the beta. It was fantastic.

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@aaronjw76_psn said in Dear Checkswing Master:

All I will say is I hope we don't see SDS change away from what was seen in the beta. It was fantastic.

Agree. I got some favorable swings and a lot of not so favorable.

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@ibonafidescrub_ said in Dear Checkswing Master:

Come now and tell me check swings don’t bail out bad hitters.

https://ibb.co/TkpVh2P

A true check swing bandit lmao !

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@aaronjw76_psn said in Dear Checkswing Master:

All I will say is I hope we don't see SDS change away from what was seen in the beta. It was fantastic.

I agree 100%

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At the end of the day, I agree with you guys on how bad of a problem it was this past year.

Historically speaking, gameplay has been drastically different from the Beta each year so fingers crossed.

But halfbutt is right, whether it’s the check swings, foul tips, line outs, bunt cheese or whatever you want to name from that long list of junk. There will always be something keeping casual players competitive.

They need a complete makeover of the competitive format for this game. Again though, fingers crossed for 21 🤞

SDS

When a person doesn’t win, the natural response is to rationalize the loss. Legitimate sounding excuses, most often in the form of blaming aspects of the game like checkswings, not getting rewarded, etc are used to cushion the blow to our egos by making ourselves believe that we were not in control and that we were victims of something outside of ourselves. It’s a fundamental defense mechanism in psychology called “rationalization”.

I know I’ll get a lot of pushback for not validating the struggles here. Certainly not out to do that. I’m not a good player by any means, but from starting MLBTS (this past May I think), I enjoy the game a lot because I take what the game offers and use it to my best ability.