Dear Checkswing Master
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@charterbus_psn said in Dear Checkswing Master:
It bails out good hitters if anything and that’s why people hate it, a bad hitter swings at all of those lol. If someone is quick enough to be on 101 mph sinkers high in the zone and pull off when they see a CB dropping out of the zone I’m definitely not going to call them bad, especially with a 26/2 success rate.
No. Just no. You cannot legitimately defend this broken mechanic and say "its working as intended" because nobody can checkswing constantly enough to get a 21:2 ratio in their favor, in prior MLBTS games or IRL.
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https://ibb.co/X59SbGrNo, we don’t have a problem!!!
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I find it hysterical that people defend check swinging because they realize their gameplay is going to take a huge hit.
Let’s face it. Check swings have given a lot of people success they didn’t deserve. It’s that game breaking.
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You know, I don’t disagree with the premise of this thread, but it occurs to me that, while check swings were not as huge of an issue last year (or were they? I don’t remember it being nearly as dramatic) the game still found a way to create parity where there wasn’t any.
Think of it. Every year, there is something. I don’t think check swings are the real problem. I think the paradigm shift of the game designers is the problem.
We’ll see. I predict that even if check swings are “fixed” there will still be lesser players somehow beating better players and no explanation for it other than, “git gud” and, “that’s baseball”.
How’s that for cynical?!
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@halfbutt_psn said in Dear Checkswing Master:
You know, I don’t disagree with the premise of this thread, but it occurs to me that, while check swings were not as huge of an issue last year (or were they? I don’t remember it being nearly as dramatic) the game still found a way to create parity where there wasn’t any.
Think of it. Every year, there is something. I don’t think check swings are the real problem. I think the paradigm shift of the game designers is the problem.
We’ll see. I predict that even if check swings are “fixed” there will still be lesser players somehow beating better players and no explanation for it other than, “git gud” and, “that’s baseball”.
How’s that for cynical?!
You're completely correct. 19 was the line-out fiasco. 18 was power or nothing. 17 was just late be great, and 16 was all animation exploitation. 15 more or less was the same as 16.
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@a_perfectgame said in Dear Checkswing Master:
I find it hysterical that people defend check swinging because they realize their gameplay is going to take a huge hit.
Let’s face it. Check swings have given a lot of people success they didn’t deserve. It’s that game breaking.
When I play against those checkswing masters I get mad if I lose because I know they got a lot of opportunities they did not deserve... then I think that hopefully they will strike out a lot in TS21 if SDS can fix this. Getting away from a bad habit is one the most difficult things to do.
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All I will say is I hope we don't see SDS change away from what was seen in the beta. It was fantastic.
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@aaronjw76_psn said in Dear Checkswing Master:
All I will say is I hope we don't see SDS change away from what was seen in the beta. It was fantastic.
Agree. I got some favorable swings and a lot of not so favorable.
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@ibonafidescrub_ said in Dear Checkswing Master:
Come now and tell me check swings don’t bail out bad hitters.
A true check swing bandit lmao !
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@aaronjw76_psn said in Dear Checkswing Master:
All I will say is I hope we don't see SDS change away from what was seen in the beta. It was fantastic.
I agree 100%
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At the end of the day, I agree with you guys on how bad of a problem it was this past year.
Historically speaking, gameplay has been drastically different from the Beta each year so fingers crossed.
But halfbutt is right, whether it’s the check swings, foul tips, line outs, bunt cheese or whatever you want to name from that long list of junk. There will always be something keeping casual players competitive.
They need a complete makeover of the competitive format for this game. Again though, fingers crossed for 21
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When a person doesn’t win, the natural response is to rationalize the loss. Legitimate sounding excuses, most often in the form of blaming aspects of the game like checkswings, not getting rewarded, etc are used to cushion the blow to our egos by making ourselves believe that we were not in control and that we were victims of something outside of ourselves. It’s a fundamental defense mechanism in psychology called “rationalization”.
I know I’ll get a lot of pushback for not validating the struggles here. Certainly not out to do that. I’m not a good player by any means, but from starting MLBTS (this past May I think), I enjoy the game a lot because I take what the game offers and use it to my best ability.
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@writetoshawn_psn said in Dear Checkswing Master:
When a person doesn’t win, the natural response is to rationalize the loss. Legitimate sounding excuses, most often in the form of blaming aspects of the game like checkswings, not getting rewarded, etc are used to cushion the blow to our egos by making ourselves believe that we were not in control and that we were victims of something outside of ourselves. It’s a fundamental defense mechanism in psychology called “rationalization”.
I know I’ll get a lot of pushback for not validating the struggles here. Certainly not out to do that. I’m not a good player by any means, but from starting MLBTS (this past May I think), I enjoy the game a lot because I take what the game offers and use it to my best ability.
It’s good that you enjoy it for what it has to offer. I wish I could do the same and ignore these things, I guess I need to learn to tone the competitive spirit down a bit, clearly it will benefit me a lot.
Anyway, that player was bailed out of at least 6 or 7 more strikeouts. He earned walks he didn’t deserve by abusing a broken mechanic thus bringing my pitchers confidence down and forcing the meatballs he got.
His best season was 643 and somehow he managed to get up to the low 700s. So it’s very clear that he was swinging away because he couldn’t catch up to hof speeds and was hoping for fastball, if not FB checkswing. That was my WS game and I lost 26 points there. I was clearly the better player even tho I lost, sometimes you just can’t beat them and the game as well
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@ibonafidescrub_ said in Dear Checkswing Master:
@writetoshawn_psn said in Dear Checkswing Master:
When a person doesn’t win, the natural response is to rationalize the loss. Legitimate sounding excuses, most often in the form of blaming aspects of the game like checkswings, not getting rewarded, etc are used to cushion the blow to our egos by making ourselves believe that we were not in control and that we were victims of something outside of ourselves. It’s a fundamental defense mechanism in psychology called “rationalization”.
I know I’ll get a lot of pushback for not validating the struggles here. Certainly not out to do that. I’m not a good player by any means, but from starting MLBTS (this past May I think), I enjoy the game a lot because I take what the game offers and use it to my best ability.
It’s good that you enjoy it for what it has to offer. I wish I could do the same and ignore these things, I guess I need to learn to tone the competitive spirit down a bit, clearly it will benefit me a lot.
Anyway, that player was bailed out of at least 6 or 7 more strikeouts. He earned walks he didn’t deserve by abusing a broken mechanic thus bringing my pitchers confidence down and forcing the meatballs he got.
His best season was 643 and somehow he managed to get up to the low 700s. So it’s very clear that he was swinging away because he couldn’t catch up to hof speeds and was hoping for fastball, if not FB checkswing. That was my WS game and I lost 26 points there. I was clearly the better player even tho I lost, sometimes you just can’t beat them and the game as well
To hear that it was your WS game honesty cuts deeply. I can’t imagine. That reallllly sucks! Kudos for getting that far!
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Excellent pitch tunneling....I bet all the strikeouts were fastballs that were not recognized in time. Every time I throw one, it is sent to the seats.
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@writetoshawn_psn said in Dear Checkswing Master:
When a person doesn’t win, the natural response is to rationalize the loss. Legitimate sounding excuses, most often in the form of blaming aspects of the game like checkswings, not getting rewarded, etc are used to cushion the blow to our egos by making ourselves believe that we were not in control and that we were victims of something outside of ourselves. It’s a fundamental defense mechanism in psychology called “rationalization”.
I know I’ll get a lot of pushback for not validating the struggles here. Certainly not out to do that. I’m not a good player by any means, but from starting MLBTS (this past May I think), I enjoy the game a lot because I take what the game offers and use it to my best ability.
Eh. Not necessarily. I have absolutely been winning and saw my own reward make zero sense and it has a annoyed me to the point I offer a friendly quit. The games broke. There are many things about it that are broke. Aside from all the lineouts by one team countered by horrible contact success by their opponent. The ball path of where you see it and where it says it ends up is totally wrong which just adds to the games frustration. This has been proven.
Reality is people do not want to accept that mlb the show has been a random series of algorithims for the last 4 years— especially the people that have had success — because they want to believe they are really good in the gameplay...
The games random. You can be on the ball for 9 straight innings with out scoring any runs while your opponent can strike out 20 times and win. It happens all the time. And people chalk it up to “that’s baseball” instead of demanding a better experience
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@ibonafidescrub_ said in Dear Checkswing Master:
Come now and tell me check swings don’t bail out bad hitters.
I would be ready to shove the controller down my throat at that point, the patience u must have. Kudos.
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@mr_pin_em_down07 said in Dear Checkswing Master:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in Dear Checkswing Master:
Come now and tell me check swings don’t bail out bad hitters.
I would be ready to shove the controller down my throat at that point, the patience u must have. Kudos.
I'd shove it somewhere else personally.
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@ikasnu_psn said in Dear Checkswing Master:
@mr_pin_em_down07 said in Dear Checkswing Master:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in Dear Checkswing Master:
Come now and tell me check swings don’t bail out bad hitters.
I would be ready to shove the controller down my throat at that point, the patience u must have. Kudos.
I'd shove it somewhere else personally.
i guess so
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@ikasnu_psn said in Dear Checkswing Master:
@mr_pin_em_down07 said in Dear Checkswing Master:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in Dear Checkswing Master:
Come now and tell me check swings don’t bail out bad hitters.
I would be ready to shove the controller down my throat at that point, the patience u must have. Kudos.
I'd shove it somewhere else personally.
There’s a gaping world of possibilities of what this could mean.
