Pitch speeds lag

@Sooner55 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@MHHW33 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@DustyDelap said in Pitch speeds lag:

So..... Not sure if this works or not, but it seems to help me. When you get into the pitcher selection screen move your selection up and down as fast as u can if there is delay there seems to be lag. When it moves like your choosing an pitcher in an offline game with no delay it feels to me there is less lag in the game and I feel I hit better. Maybe its just me but it seems to work. ‍️‍️

That will only tell you if you’re the home team. I could be the home team 100% of the time if I quit out of that menu every time I’m not at home. I’ve had this problem both on the road and at home which is the part that baffles me. Before this year your solution would work 100% of the time and I never had bad home games. That’s why I do t understand what could be happening just in 20.

Exactly happens at home for me too. The game has to have broken net code or something. Are all that are having this issue have super fast internet?

That could be it too. I have 1 gig internet. Who knows but it’s a good guess.

Real good connections may hinder us who knows. I also play wired in.

I dont have amazing internet, I think its 60mb/s, its the best I can get in this house.

Either way, it was more than fine last year, and in 18, and 17, and the first week or so this year.

So the question is to all those who keep blaming our TVs and monitors, or our internet, why is it just this game, why can I go play 19 right now and have it feel fine?

Something is wrong with how 20 runs. I play on a monitor and have had no trouble any other year.

I’ve had to basically skip the Event because of this considering virtually every game is Ohtani or Pearson throwing 102 mph.
It’s driving me insane because I’m not sure how much is user error or if something is up...as I’ve never been an amazing hitter but for some context I was like 120-60 last year and finished Moments Extreme, I’m the type of player this year that routinely beats Showdowns and the such, so I think my competence is at lest above average, but I get in these games and I can’t hit a fastball. No matter what I do and how I adjust I’m late. I had a game earlier in the year on Veteran where I was late on anything over 96...that one was bizarre.

It’s really been a bummer and hopefully I can work it out somehow.

Oh, also I’m playing on the TCP series 6 or whatever form a couple years ago on game mode which I believe should be pretty good in terms of televisions.

@rymflaherty said in Pitch speeds lag:

I’ve had to basically skip the Event because of this considering virtually every game is Ohtani or Pearson throwing 102 mph.
It’s driving me insane because I’m not sure how much is user error or if something is up...as I’ve never been an amazing hitter but for some context I was like 120-60 last year and finished Moments Extreme, I’m the type of player this year that routinely beats Showdowns and the such, so I think my competence is at lest above average, but I get in these games and I can’t hit a fastball. No matter what I do and how I adjust I’m late. I had a game earlier in the year on Veteran where I was late on anything over 96...that one was bizarre.

It’s really been a bummer and hopefully I can work it out somehow.

Oh, also I’m playing on the TCP series 6 or whatever form a couple years ago on game mode which I believe should be pretty good in terms of televisions.

Do you have fast internet at home?

Problem with matchmaking for rank rather than ping is latency, this will make klubers sinker bp one game then god tier the next

This just happened to me facing Alex Reyes at Minute Maid. I think it was intentional on my opponent’s part because I asked for a friendly quit before a pitch had been thrown, when I saw we were playing at Minute Maid, and he denied it.

He also bunted, bunt danced, took extra steps, tried to squeeze runners, and had speedy guys all over the field, not to mention O’Day out of the pen, etc. Needless to say I lost the game.

@greenbuk75 said in Pitch speeds lag:

Problem with matchmaking for rank rather than ping is latency, this will make klubers sinker bp one game then god tier the next

Ping may have something to do with it, bu again, why is it only a problem now? Why not last year?

@maskedgrappler said in Pitch speeds lag:

@greenbuk75 said in Pitch speeds lag:

Problem with matchmaking for rank rather than ping is latency, this will make klubers sinker bp one game then god tier the next

Ping may have something to do with it, bu again, why is it only a problem now? Why not last year?

It always has been, the pitch speeds are more unforgiving this year however. Mlb 15 has speeds this fast and it was def noticable and the worst I've ever hit in an mlb

@maskedgrappler said in Pitch speeds lag:

@MaxHarvest said in Pitch speeds lag:

@maskedgrappler said in Pitch speeds lag:

I've got the same issue. What I can tell you is that I've never had this issue and I've been playing online since 17, and until this January on a tv with no game mode. A few weeks ago I went back to 19 and had no issue at all. I had no issue this year until patches 1.04 and 1.05.

So if it's my internet or tv, it's only a factor in this specific version of the show. Beyond that your guess is as good as mine.

I’ve also never experienced it this severe in other versions of the game, I think w the faster speeds and smaller timing windows when it happens it’s super noticeable. It’s really a pretty big issue

Yep, I hate to keep bringing it up, and if it was just me I wouldn't. But enough people are having this problem that there has to be something to it beyond telling everyone to get a monitor.

I have a 1ms monitor and the best internet money can buy son its not either of those

Serious the better the internet I think the more you run into this

I have played hundreds of h2h games online since 2014 and I can confirm that network lag has A LOT to do with how well you can see and react to the pitch. It may not have anything to do with your setup, but external factors such as the other person's connection quality and/or physical distance from your connection has a lot to do with it.... If you play someone overseas, for an example, the gameplay will usually be much different than vs if you played someone across town.
Too bad SDS doesn't show connection quality before jumping into an online game. Sometimes you can scroll up and down your lineup in pregame and tell how much lag you might get, but that is not always reliable.

@sbooth44 said in Pitch speeds lag:

I have played hundreds of h2h games online since 2014 and I can confirm that network lag has A LOT to do with how well you can see and react to the pitch. It may not have anything to do with your setup, but external factors such as the other person's connection quality and/or physical distance from your connection has a lot to do with it.... If you play someone overseas, for an example, the gameplay will usually be much different than vs if you played someone across town.
Too bad SDS doesn't show connection quality before jumping into an online game. Sometimes you can scroll up and down your lineup in pregame and tell how much lag you might get, but that is not always reliable.

Yep, you match vs a west coast guy and it doesn't matter what your setup is....

My typical benchmarks in killzone shadow fall (because they actually treat you like educated adults and let you see specs) were
-Granted this is dedicated servers and not p2p but you get a good idea

USA east (my time zone)- 20-33ms ping
Central- 50-80ms
West coast- 100+ ms
Brazil- 200ms
Germany- 100-150ms
Uk- 70-100ms
Japan (6am sessions lmao)- 300-450+ Ms

So even just matching cross country added a full 100 milliseconds of latency on top of the 5ms or so between your controller, PS4 etc and the 1ms extra refresh rate on your monitor....playing someone in Cali you are at best seeing that ball over 100 milliseconds late vs an eastern opponent who would be 30 Ms or so

Note, being p2p and some of the slowdowns when pitching help close these gaps some but it will always affect your hitting some

It has everything to do with internet speed or companys I use Suddenlink and its trash for this game.

@Sooner55 said in Pitch speeds lag:

It has everything to do with internet speed or companys I use Suddenlink and its trash for this game.

Read my post.

@lucas8181 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@MHHW33 said in Pitch speeds lag:

Every time I play someone with any lag this year I can’t catch up to a 95 mph fastball. Why are pitch speeds so different game to game even facing the same exact pitchers ? It doesn’t matter if I’m home team or away. I’ve never had this happen in any year before 20 and it’s so bad I’m not wanting to play online anymore.

I had this problem to the point that I quit more games than I can count when the year started. Turned out, it wasn't lag, it was my TV. I finally figured that out when I upgraded to a monitor.

My record will never recover, but that's been working to my advantage. Everyone thinks I'm awful at the game now

I have a monitor and still experience pitch lag. Very frustrating.

@MaxHarvest said in Pitch speeds lag:

@maskedgrappler said in Pitch speeds lag:

@MaxHarvest said in Pitch speeds lag:

@maskedgrappler said in Pitch speeds lag:

I've got the same issue. What I can tell you is that I've never had this issue and I've been playing online since 17, and until this January on a tv with no game mode. A few weeks ago I went back to 19 and had no issue at all. I had no issue this year until patches 1.04 and 1.05.

So if it's my internet or tv, it's only a factor in this specific version of the show. Beyond that your guess is as good as mine.

I’ve also never experienced it this severe in other versions of the game, I think w the faster speeds and smaller timing windows when it happens it’s super noticeable. It’s really a pretty big issue

Yep, I hate to keep bringing it up, and if it was just me I wouldn't. But enough people are having this problem that there has to be something to it beyond telling everyone to get a monitor.

I have a 1ms monitor and the best internet money can buy son its not either of those

Same.

@aaronjw76 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@lucas8181 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@MHHW33 said in Pitch speeds lag:

Every time I play someone with any lag this year I can’t catch up to a 95 mph fastball. Why are pitch speeds so different game to game even facing the same exact pitchers ? It doesn’t matter if I’m home team or away. I’ve never had this happen in any year before 20 and it’s so bad I’m not wanting to play online anymore.

I had this problem to the point that I quit more games than I can count when the year started. Turned out, it wasn't lag, it was my TV. I finally figured that out when I upgraded to a monitor.

My record will never recover, but that's been working to my advantage. Everyone thinks I'm awful at the game now

I have a monitor and still experience pitch lag. Very frustrating.

Once again...read my post

@greenbuk75 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@aaronjw76 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@lucas8181 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@MHHW33 said in Pitch speeds lag:

Every time I play someone with any lag this year I can’t catch up to a 95 mph fastball. Why are pitch speeds so different game to game even facing the same exact pitchers ? It doesn’t matter if I’m home team or away. I’ve never had this happen in any year before 20 and it’s so bad I’m not wanting to play online anymore.

I had this problem to the point that I quit more games than I can count when the year started. Turned out, it wasn't lag, it was my TV. I finally figured that out when I upgraded to a monitor.

My record will never recover, but that's been working to my advantage. Everyone thinks I'm awful at the game now

I have a monitor and still experience pitch lag. Very frustrating.

Once again...read my post

Which post?

@greenbuk75 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@sbooth44 said in Pitch speeds lag:

I have played hundreds of h2h games online since 2014 and I can confirm that network lag has A LOT to do with how well you can see and react to the pitch. It may not have anything to do with your setup, but external factors such as the other person's connection quality and/or physical distance from your connection has a lot to do with it.... If you play someone overseas, for an example, the gameplay will usually be much different than vs if you played someone across town.
Too bad SDS doesn't show connection quality before jumping into an online game. Sometimes you can scroll up and down your lineup in pregame and tell how much lag you might get, but that is not always reliable.

Yep, you match vs a west coast guy and it doesn't matter what your setup is....

My typical benchmarks in killzone shadow fall (because they actually treat you like educated adults and let you see specs) were
-Granted this is dedicated servers and not p2p but you get a good idea

USA east (my time zone)- 20-33ms ping
Central- 50-80ms
West coast- 100+ ms
Brazil- 200ms
Germany- 100-150ms
Uk- 70-100ms
Japan (6am sessions lmao)- 300-450+ Ms

So even just matching cross country added a full 100 milliseconds of latency on top of the 5ms or so between your controller, PS4 etc and the 1ms extra refresh rate on your monitor....playing someone in Cali you are at best seeing that ball over 100 milliseconds late vs an eastern opponent who would be 30 Ms or so

Note, being p2p and some of the slowdowns when pitching help close these gaps some but it will always affect your hitting some

This post @aaronjw76

@greenbuk75 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@greenbuk75 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@sbooth44 said in Pitch speeds lag:

I have played hundreds of h2h games online since 2014 and I can confirm that network lag has A LOT to do with how well you can see and react to the pitch. It may not have anything to do with your setup, but external factors such as the other person's connection quality and/or physical distance from your connection has a lot to do with it.... If you play someone overseas, for an example, the gameplay will usually be much different than vs if you played someone across town.
Too bad SDS doesn't show connection quality before jumping into an online game. Sometimes you can scroll up and down your lineup in pregame and tell how much lag you might get, but that is not always reliable.

Yep, you match vs a west coast guy and it doesn't matter what your setup is....

My typical benchmarks in killzone shadow fall (because they actually treat you like educated adults and let you see specs) were
-Granted this is dedicated servers and not p2p but you get a good idea

USA east (my time zone)- 20-33ms ping
Central- 50-80ms
West coast- 100+ ms
Brazil- 200ms
Germany- 100-150ms
Uk- 70-100ms
Japan (6am sessions lmao)- 300-450+ Ms

So even just matching cross country added a full 100 milliseconds of latency on top of the 5ms or so between your controller, PS4 etc and the 1ms extra refresh rate on your monitor....playing someone in Cali you are at best seeing that ball over 100 milliseconds late vs an eastern opponent who would be 30 Ms or so

Note, being p2p and some of the slowdowns when pitching help close these gaps some but it will always affect your hitting some

This post @aaronjw76

So basically there is sweet fk all that we can do about this?

@aaronjw76 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@greenbuk75 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@greenbuk75 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@sbooth44 said in Pitch speeds lag:

I have played hundreds of h2h games online since 2014 and I can confirm that network lag has A LOT to do with how well you can see and react to the pitch. It may not have anything to do with your setup, but external factors such as the other person's connection quality and/or physical distance from your connection has a lot to do with it.... If you play someone overseas, for an example, the gameplay will usually be much different than vs if you played someone across town.
Too bad SDS doesn't show connection quality before jumping into an online game. Sometimes you can scroll up and down your lineup in pregame and tell how much lag you might get, but that is not always reliable.

Yep, you match vs a west coast guy and it doesn't matter what your setup is....

My typical benchmarks in killzone shadow fall (because they actually treat you like educated adults and let you see specs) were
-Granted this is dedicated servers and not p2p but you get a good idea

USA east (my time zone)- 20-33ms ping
Central- 50-80ms
West coast- 100+ ms
Brazil- 200ms
Germany- 100-150ms
Uk- 70-100ms
Japan (6am sessions lmao)- 300-450+ Ms

So even just matching cross country added a full 100 milliseconds of latency on top of the 5ms or so between your controller, PS4 etc and the 1ms extra refresh rate on your monitor....playing someone in Cali you are at best seeing that ball over 100 milliseconds late vs an eastern opponent who would be 30 Ms or so

Note, being p2p and some of the slowdowns when pitching help close these gaps some but it will always affect your hitting some

This post @aaronjw76

So basically there is sweet fk all that we can do about this?

The menu lag while making your lineup is usually pretty indicative of how much latency there is if that helps at all

@greenbuk75 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@aaronjw76 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@greenbuk75 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@greenbuk75 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@sbooth44 said in Pitch speeds lag:

I have played hundreds of h2h games online since 2014 and I can confirm that network lag has A LOT to do with how well you can see and react to the pitch. It may not have anything to do with your setup, but external factors such as the other person's connection quality and/or physical distance from your connection has a lot to do with it.... If you play someone overseas, for an example, the gameplay will usually be much different than vs if you played someone across town.
Too bad SDS doesn't show connection quality before jumping into an online game. Sometimes you can scroll up and down your lineup in pregame and tell how much lag you might get, but that is not always reliable.

Yep, you match vs a west coast guy and it doesn't matter what your setup is....

My typical benchmarks in killzone shadow fall (because they actually treat you like educated adults and let you see specs) were
-Granted this is dedicated servers and not p2p but you get a good idea

USA east (my time zone)- 20-33ms ping
Central- 50-80ms
West coast- 100+ ms
Brazil- 200ms
Germany- 100-150ms
Uk- 70-100ms
Japan (6am sessions lmao)- 300-450+ Ms

So even just matching cross country added a full 100 milliseconds of latency on top of the 5ms or so between your controller, PS4 etc and the 1ms extra refresh rate on your monitor....playing someone in Cali you are at best seeing that ball over 100 milliseconds late vs an eastern opponent who would be 30 Ms or so

Note, being p2p and some of the slowdowns when pitching help close these gaps some but it will always affect your hitting some

This post @aaronjw76

So basically there is sweet fk all that we can do about this?

The menu lag while making your lineup is usually pretty indicative of how much latency there is if that helps at all

Just had 3 event games where there was noticable lag while selecting my pitcher. That type of thing? Each game had considerable lag.