3rd inning is a bust for me
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I quoted who I was speaking to. It's pretty simple, I was saying Chipper cards are glitchy, not because of his stats, but his cards are always glitchy (in general), that's it. I don't know why I needed to explain that again, but hopefully you got it this time.
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Meh alot of this depends on where you are with your collections and your gameplan for the next few months.
Right now, Victorino could make my squad OF.
I've focused on a 90+ speed outfield with Robles, Buxton, and 87 Mantle in Right. Victorino could replace Buxton perhaps as he just has better stats overall.
I'm not sure about second because I pulled Madrigal and have been using him, but Robert's has great stats and is a switch hitter. Either way I'm fine, but will probably pick Victorino.
Chipper also looks good at 3rd because I dont have an actual OP primary 3rd baseman.
Note I picked Larkin who can only play short and I chose Hanley for the second inning. I've put him at 3rd base, but his defense there as a secondary is actually worse than Chippers.
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Keep in mind these guys are all switch hitters with vision that will play to HOF+. I used Chipper in showdown and he was a beast. I didn't think I'd like Brian Roberts and Victorinos either but the Roberts card is hot
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I am happy we all don't have a full squad of 99s....too bad the gameplay is the real problem this year...
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With the release of the Summer Affinity cards and all the amazing 3B with godlike powers at the plate and in the field . . . The only thing to do with Chipper Jones is to quick sell him! And I’m not at all saying that because I am programmed to hate the Braves!
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@joeythebigboss said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@fingerslp said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
I think all three guys make most peoples squad, unless youve completed the collections. Roberts is better than Sandburg; switch hitter with a better swing. Shane is a poor manys Mantle and Chipper...common, its Chipper! Youre using his swing on you CAP.
Roberts is not better than Sandberg . I’ll take Ryno 80+ power from both sides all day everyday also his swing is fine IMO.
Maybe, Sandberg is on a lot of guys bench though and few people are taking him as a first or second pick. So, for those people, Roberts is a plus option.
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@squishiesgirl said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@BigKJ8923 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
The issues I’m having with the content is 80% is recycled. If we want to get technical outside of the Team Affinity Prospects its 100% recycled. Each Inning program so far has included someone that was a mainstay in line ups last year. They also are already recycling the new “Legends”. Roberts has already been in lineups as a gold since week 1. Victorino also has been widespread from team collections. Chipper has been around forever. At this rate we wont get too many ‘new” legends until near end of the games life. We will get the best versions of Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Ortiz, etc at a time when The game is almost obsolete. SDS could have had some decency to sneak in an Albert Belle or player of his quality its been 2 years. I’d rather have him again instead of Bob Feller’s racist [censored] again and again.
How exactly is Bob Feller racist?
Look up Bob Feller on google. All the back handed remarks and word choice for people of color was blatant. I’m a tribe fan so I heard it on the radio for years and read numerous articles. Eventually some one called him out for it. He decided to call into a radio show argue he wasn’t but it didn’t fool anyone he got mad and hung up. His demeanor was easily read as not caring much for people of color whatsoever.
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@BigKJ8923 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@squishiesgirl said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@BigKJ8923 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
The issues I’m having with the content is 80% is recycled. If we want to get technical outside of the Team Affinity Prospects its 100% recycled. Each Inning program so far has included someone that was a mainstay in line ups last year. They also are already recycling the new “Legends”. Roberts has already been in lineups as a gold since week 1. Victorino also has been widespread from team collections. Chipper has been around forever. At this rate we wont get too many ‘new” legends until near end of the games life. We will get the best versions of Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Ortiz, etc at a time when The game is almost obsolete. SDS could have had some decency to sneak in an Albert Belle or player of his quality its been 2 years. I’d rather have him again instead of Bob Feller’s racist [censored] again and again.
How exactly is Bob Feller racist?
Look up Bob Feller on google. All the back handed remarks and word choice for people of color was blatant. I’m a tribe fan so I heard it on the radio for years and read numerous articles. Eventually some one called him out for it. He decided to call into a radio show argue he wasn’t but it didn’t fool anyone he got mad and hung up. His demeanor was easily read as not caring much for people of color whatsoever.
Gonna need some links/proof of that bud
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@BigKJ8923 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@squishiesgirl said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@BigKJ8923 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
The issues I’m having with the content is 80% is recycled. If we want to get technical outside of the Team Affinity Prospects its 100% recycled. Each Inning program so far has included someone that was a mainstay in line ups last year. They also are already recycling the new “Legends”. Roberts has already been in lineups as a gold since week 1. Victorino also has been widespread from team collections. Chipper has been around forever. At this rate we wont get too many ‘new” legends until near end of the games life. We will get the best versions of Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Ortiz, etc at a time when The game is almost obsolete. SDS could have had some decency to sneak in an Albert Belle or player of his quality its been 2 years. I’d rather have him again instead of Bob Feller’s racist [censored] again and again.
How exactly is Bob Feller racist?
Look up Bob Feller on google. All the back handed remarks and word choice for people of color was blatant. I’m a tribe fan so I heard it on the radio for years and read numerous articles. Eventually some one called him out for it. He decided to call into a radio show argue he wasn’t but it didn’t fool anyone he got mad and hung up. His demeanor was easily read as not caring much for people of color whatsoever.
Gonna need some links/proof of that bud
https://www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=2133101
https://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/12/16/1879695/bob-feller-dies
Outside of him pushing to get Satchel Paige signed and allowing Negro League players to tour with him his comments about Hispanic players as he got older and his public feud with Jackie Robinson told the true story. This isn’t like Ty Cobb who many believed him to be racist but only went off here say. There’s numerous people over the decades that will tell you Feller was ignorant in many different ways.
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@BigKJ8923 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@BigKJ8923 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@squishiesgirl said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@BigKJ8923 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
The issues I’m having with the content is 80% is recycled. If we want to get technical outside of the Team Affinity Prospects its 100% recycled. Each Inning program so far has included someone that was a mainstay in line ups last year. They also are already recycling the new “Legends”. Roberts has already been in lineups as a gold since week 1. Victorino also has been widespread from team collections. Chipper has been around forever. At this rate we wont get too many ‘new” legends until near end of the games life. We will get the best versions of Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Ortiz, etc at a time when The game is almost obsolete. SDS could have had some decency to sneak in an Albert Belle or player of his quality its been 2 years. I’d rather have him again instead of Bob Feller’s racist [censored] again and again.
How exactly is Bob Feller racist?
Look up Bob Feller on google. All the back handed remarks and word choice for people of color was blatant. I’m a tribe fan so I heard it on the radio for years and read numerous articles. Eventually some one called him out for it. He decided to call into a radio show argue he wasn’t but it didn’t fool anyone he got mad and hung up. His demeanor was easily read as not caring much for people of color whatsoever.
Gonna need some links/proof of that bud
https://www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=2133101
https://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/12/16/1879695/bob-feller-dies
Outside of him pushing to get Satchel Paige signed and allowing Negro League players to tour with him his comments about Hispanic players as he got older and his public feud with Jackie Robinson told the true story. This isn’t like Ty Cobb who many believed him to be racist but only went off here say. There’s numerous people over the decades that will tell you Feller was ignorant in many different ways.
So, the first article about the radio show really doesn’t mean much. From what I can tell, the interviewer just kept asking the same question after it had been answered, then kept calling Feller a racist even after he explained that he wasn’t. I don’t blame him for hanging up in that situation. If people have an agenda they want to carry out, there’s only so much you can do to change their minds.
As far as the feud with Robinson goes, I think it’s clear that they had two distinct personalities that clashed, not because of race though. Robinson asked why baseball didn’t have a black manager after 20 years of integration, and fellers response was basically that a black man shouldn’t get a job just for the sake of diversity. If he earns it, he earns it. That’s my interpretation of it. Besides, everything I’ve read says they were good friends again before Robinson died.
Feller clearly had many black teammates and willingly played with/against them without issues, so calling him a blatant racist seems incredibly unfair.
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@BigKJ8923 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@BigKJ8923 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@squishiesgirl said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@BigKJ8923 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
The issues I’m having with the content is 80% is recycled. If we want to get technical outside of the Team Affinity Prospects its 100% recycled. Each Inning program so far has included someone that was a mainstay in line ups last year. They also are already recycling the new “Legends”. Roberts has already been in lineups as a gold since week 1. Victorino also has been widespread from team collections. Chipper has been around forever. At this rate we wont get too many ‘new” legends until near end of the games life. We will get the best versions of Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Ortiz, etc at a time when The game is almost obsolete. SDS could have had some decency to sneak in an Albert Belle or player of his quality its been 2 years. I’d rather have him again instead of Bob Feller’s racist [censored] again and again.
How exactly is Bob Feller racist?
Look up Bob Feller on google. All the back handed remarks and word choice for people of color was blatant. I’m a tribe fan so I heard it on the radio for years and read numerous articles. Eventually some one called him out for it. He decided to call into a radio show argue he wasn’t but it didn’t fool anyone he got mad and hung up. His demeanor was easily read as not caring much for people of color whatsoever.
Gonna need some links/proof of that bud
https://www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=2133101
https://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/12/16/1879695/bob-feller-dies
Outside of him pushing to get Satchel Paige signed and allowing Negro League players to tour with him his comments about Hispanic players as he got older and his public feud with Jackie Robinson told the true story. This isn’t like Ty Cobb who many believed him to be racist but only went off here say. There’s numerous people over the decades that will tell you Feller was ignorant in many different ways.
So, the first article about the radio show really doesn’t mean much. From what I can tell, the interviewer just kept asking the same question after it had been answered, then kept calling Feller a racist even after he explained that he wasn’t. I don’t blame him for hanging up in that situation. If people have an agenda they want to carry out, there’s only so much you can do to change their minds.
As far as the feud with Robinson goes, I think it’s clear that they had two distinct personalities that clashed, not because of race though. Robinson asked why baseball didn’t have a black manager after 20 years of integration, and fellers response was basically that a black man shouldn’t get a job just for the sake of diversity. If he earns it, he earns it. That’s my interpretation of it. Besides, everything I’ve read says they were good friends again before Robinson died.
Feller clearly had many black teammates and willingly played with/against them without issues, so calling him a blatant racist seems incredibly unfair.
Blatant racist maybe not but a John Rocker type yes. Rocker wasn’t a racist, he’s done some interviews years later and seems pretty cool even has a black gf now and had others in the past. He just was a bigot that said what he pleased and did what he pleased. Sometimes when you are raised a certain way its hard to be impartial to every one when your environment seems to target certain types of people. Was he a product of his environment, maybe, but did he do anything to try to keep from being labeled one, no. Saying and doing are two different things. Anyone can say something to try to defend themselves but if their actions contradicted the perception then a direct explanation wouldn’t be necessary, People who feel they have to publicly defend themselves in a less than calm manner always have something to hide,
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@BigKJ8923 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@BigKJ8923 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@BigKJ8923 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@squishiesgirl said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@BigKJ8923 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
The issues I’m having with the content is 80% is recycled. If we want to get technical outside of the Team Affinity Prospects its 100% recycled. Each Inning program so far has included someone that was a mainstay in line ups last year. They also are already recycling the new “Legends”. Roberts has already been in lineups as a gold since week 1. Victorino also has been widespread from team collections. Chipper has been around forever. At this rate we wont get too many ‘new” legends until near end of the games life. We will get the best versions of Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Ortiz, etc at a time when The game is almost obsolete. SDS could have had some decency to sneak in an Albert Belle or player of his quality its been 2 years. I’d rather have him again instead of Bob Feller’s racist [censored] again and again.
How exactly is Bob Feller racist?
Look up Bob Feller on google. All the back handed remarks and word choice for people of color was blatant. I’m a tribe fan so I heard it on the radio for years and read numerous articles. Eventually some one called him out for it. He decided to call into a radio show argue he wasn’t but it didn’t fool anyone he got mad and hung up. His demeanor was easily read as not caring much for people of color whatsoever.
Gonna need some links/proof of that bud
https://www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=2133101
https://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/12/16/1879695/bob-feller-dies
Outside of him pushing to get Satchel Paige signed and allowing Negro League players to tour with him his comments about Hispanic players as he got older and his public feud with Jackie Robinson told the true story. This isn’t like Ty Cobb who many believed him to be racist but only went off here say. There’s numerous people over the decades that will tell you Feller was ignorant in many different ways.
So, the first article about the radio show really doesn’t mean much. From what I can tell, the interviewer just kept asking the same question after it had been answered, then kept calling Feller a racist even after he explained that he wasn’t. I don’t blame him for hanging up in that situation. If people have an agenda they want to carry out, there’s only so much you can do to change their minds.
As far as the feud with Robinson goes, I think it’s clear that they had two distinct personalities that clashed, not because of race though. Robinson asked why baseball didn’t have a black manager after 20 years of integration, and fellers response was basically that a black man shouldn’t get a job just for the sake of diversity. If he earns it, he earns it. That’s my interpretation of it. Besides, everything I’ve read says they were good friends again before Robinson died.
Feller clearly had many black teammates and willingly played with/against them without issues, so calling him a blatant racist seems incredibly unfair.
Blatant racist maybe not but a John Rocker type yes. Rocker wasn’t a racist, he’s done some interviews years later and seems pretty cool even has a black gf now and had others in the past. He just was a bigot that said what he pleased and did what he pleased. Sometimes when you are raised a certain way its hard to be impartial to every one when your environment seems to target certain types of people. Was he a product of his environment, maybe, but did he do anything to try to keep from being labeled one, no. Saying and doing are two different things. Anyone can say something to try to defend themselves but if their actions contradicted the perception then a direct explanation wouldn’t be necessary, People who feel they have to publicly defend themselves in a less than calm manner always have something to hide,
But what did he do that would label him as racist though? I don’t think disagreeing with a black man makes somebody racist, especially when there’s been many other cases of him supporting and helping lots of other black players.
As for your last point, I don’t think that’s necessarily true. When you’re defending yourself against somebody that clearly is going to call you a racist no matter what you say, I’d imagine it gets extremely frustrating to deal with said person. At some point you just have to realize that the person is a lost cause, and there’s no point in wasting your time on them anymore.
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@BigKJ8923 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@BigKJ8923 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@BigKJ8923 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@squishiesgirl said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@BigKJ8923 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
The issues I’m having with the content is 80% is recycled. If we want to get technical outside of the Team Affinity Prospects its 100% recycled. Each Inning program so far has included someone that was a mainstay in line ups last year. They also are already recycling the new “Legends”. Roberts has already been in lineups as a gold since week 1. Victorino also has been widespread from team collections. Chipper has been around forever. At this rate we wont get too many ‘new” legends until near end of the games life. We will get the best versions of Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Ortiz, etc at a time when The game is almost obsolete. SDS could have had some decency to sneak in an Albert Belle or player of his quality its been 2 years. I’d rather have him again instead of Bob Feller’s racist [censored] again and again.
How exactly is Bob Feller racist?
Look up Bob Feller on google. All the back handed remarks and word choice for people of color was blatant. I’m a tribe fan so I heard it on the radio for years and read numerous articles. Eventually some one called him out for it. He decided to call into a radio show argue he wasn’t but it didn’t fool anyone he got mad and hung up. His demeanor was easily read as not caring much for people of color whatsoever.
Gonna need some links/proof of that bud
https://www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=2133101
https://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/12/16/1879695/bob-feller-dies
Outside of him pushing to get Satchel Paige signed and allowing Negro League players to tour with him his comments about Hispanic players as he got older and his public feud with Jackie Robinson told the true story. This isn’t like Ty Cobb who many believed him to be racist but only went off here say. There’s numerous people over the decades that will tell you Feller was ignorant in many different ways.
So, the first article about the radio show really doesn’t mean much. From what I can tell, the interviewer just kept asking the same question after it had been answered, then kept calling Feller a racist even after he explained that he wasn’t. I don’t blame him for hanging up in that situation. If people have an agenda they want to carry out, there’s only so much you can do to change their minds.
As far as the feud with Robinson goes, I think it’s clear that they had two distinct personalities that clashed, not because of race though. Robinson asked why baseball didn’t have a black manager after 20 years of integration, and fellers response was basically that a black man shouldn’t get a job just for the sake of diversity. If he earns it, he earns it. That’s my interpretation of it. Besides, everything I’ve read says they were good friends again before Robinson died.
Feller clearly had many black teammates and willingly played with/against them without issues, so calling him a blatant racist seems incredibly unfair.
Blatant racist maybe not but a John Rocker type yes. Rocker wasn’t a racist, he’s done some interviews years later and seems pretty cool even has a black gf now and had others in the past. He just was a bigot that said what he pleased and did what he pleased. Sometimes when you are raised a certain way its hard to be impartial to every one when your environment seems to target certain types of people. Was he a product of his environment, maybe, but did he do anything to try to keep from being labeled one, no. Saying and doing are two different things. Anyone can say something to try to defend themselves but if their actions contradicted the perception then a direct explanation wouldn’t be necessary, People who feel they have to publicly defend themselves in a less than calm manner always have something to hide,
But what did he do that would label him as racist though? I don’t think disagreeing with a black man makes somebody racist, especially when there’s been many other cases of him supporting and helping lots of other black players.
As for your last point, I don’t think that’s necessarily true. When you’re defending yourself against somebody that clearly is going to call you a racist no matter what you say, I’d imagine it gets extremely frustrating to deal with said person. At some point you just have to realize that the person is a lost cause, and there’s no point in wasting your time on them anymore.
His way of talking about Hispanic players was what really set people off. I see you most likely want to defend him because you are white and I understand but the bigger picture of things is the fact that when a person of color says something it’s teen for what it was perceived. When a white persons does there’s always a loophole or way to advert. I am multi racial I see every aspect, I am in no way pro Black Lives Matter or Make America Great Again but I do see the scrutiny behind how people tend to favor an explanation for one rather than the other. So take it for what you want “bud” but I like baseball and the people involved but Bob Feller wasn’t a stand up guy.
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Well this post took a left turn
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@BigKJ8923 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@BigKJ8923 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@BigKJ8923 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@BigKJ8923 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@squishiesgirl said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@BigKJ8923 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
The issues I’m having with the content is 80% is recycled. If we want to get technical outside of the Team Affinity Prospects its 100% recycled. Each Inning program so far has included someone that was a mainstay in line ups last year. They also are already recycling the new “Legends”. Roberts has already been in lineups as a gold since week 1. Victorino also has been widespread from team collections. Chipper has been around forever. At this rate we wont get too many ‘new” legends until near end of the games life. We will get the best versions of Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Ortiz, etc at a time when The game is almost obsolete. SDS could have had some decency to sneak in an Albert Belle or player of his quality its been 2 years. I’d rather have him again instead of Bob Feller’s racist [censored] again and again.
How exactly is Bob Feller racist?
Look up Bob Feller on google. All the back handed remarks and word choice for people of color was blatant. I’m a tribe fan so I heard it on the radio for years and read numerous articles. Eventually some one called him out for it. He decided to call into a radio show argue he wasn’t but it didn’t fool anyone he got mad and hung up. His demeanor was easily read as not caring much for people of color whatsoever.
Gonna need some links/proof of that bud
https://www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=2133101
https://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/12/16/1879695/bob-feller-dies
Outside of him pushing to get Satchel Paige signed and allowing Negro League players to tour with him his comments about Hispanic players as he got older and his public feud with Jackie Robinson told the true story. This isn’t like Ty Cobb who many believed him to be racist but only went off here say. There’s numerous people over the decades that will tell you Feller was ignorant in many different ways.
So, the first article about the radio show really doesn’t mean much. From what I can tell, the interviewer just kept asking the same question after it had been answered, then kept calling Feller a racist even after he explained that he wasn’t. I don’t blame him for hanging up in that situation. If people have an agenda they want to carry out, there’s only so much you can do to change their minds.
As far as the feud with Robinson goes, I think it’s clear that they had two distinct personalities that clashed, not because of race though. Robinson asked why baseball didn’t have a black manager after 20 years of integration, and fellers response was basically that a black man shouldn’t get a job just for the sake of diversity. If he earns it, he earns it. That’s my interpretation of it. Besides, everything I’ve read says they were good friends again before Robinson died.
Feller clearly had many black teammates and willingly played with/against them without issues, so calling him a blatant racist seems incredibly unfair.
Blatant racist maybe not but a John Rocker type yes. Rocker wasn’t a racist, he’s done some interviews years later and seems pretty cool even has a black gf now and had others in the past. He just was a bigot that said what he pleased and did what he pleased. Sometimes when you are raised a certain way its hard to be impartial to every one when your environment seems to target certain types of people. Was he a product of his environment, maybe, but did he do anything to try to keep from being labeled one, no. Saying and doing are two different things. Anyone can say something to try to defend themselves but if their actions contradicted the perception then a direct explanation wouldn’t be necessary, People who feel they have to publicly defend themselves in a less than calm manner always have something to hide,
But what did he do that would label him as racist though? I don’t think disagreeing with a black man makes somebody racist, especially when there’s been many other cases of him supporting and helping lots of other black players.
As for your last point, I don’t think that’s necessarily true. When you’re defending yourself against somebody that clearly is going to call you a racist no matter what you say, I’d imagine it gets extremely frustrating to deal with said person. At some point you just have to realize that the person is a lost cause, and there’s no point in wasting your time on them anymore.
His way of talking about Hispanic players was what really set people off. I see you most likely want to defend him because you are white and I understand but the bigger picture of things is the fact that when a person of color says something it’s teen for what it was perceived. When a white persons does there’s always a loophole or way to advert. I am multi racial I see every aspect, I am in no way pro Black Lives Matter or Make America Great Again but I do see the scrutiny behind how people tend to favor an explanation for one rather than the other. So take it for what you want “bud” but I like baseball and the people involved but Bob Feller wasn’t a stand up guy.
My point about people being a lost cause applies here.
Clearly I’m not going to change your opinion, just as you’ve done nothing to change mine.
At the end of the day, neither of us knew him personally. I haven’t seen a single statement of his that sounds racist in any way to me.
So you see the scrutiny behind how people tend to favor one explanation over another, yet you’re here making assumptions that Bob Feller was racist based on statements that you want to perceive as racist, but which in reality aren’t. Alright.
Everything I’ve seen says Feller was actually a pretty great guy.
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Lol this thread needs to get nuked
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@BigKJ8923 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@BigKJ8923 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@squishiesgirl said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@BigKJ8923 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
The issues I’m having with the content is 80% is recycled. If we want to get technical outside of the Team Affinity Prospects its 100% recycled. Each Inning program so far has included someone that was a mainstay in line ups last year. They also are already recycling the new “Legends”. Roberts has already been in lineups as a gold since week 1. Victorino also has been widespread from team collections. Chipper has been around forever. At this rate we wont get too many ‘new” legends until near end of the games life. We will get the best versions of Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Ortiz, etc at a time when The game is almost obsolete. SDS could have had some decency to sneak in an Albert Belle or player of his quality its been 2 years. I’d rather have him again instead of Bob Feller’s racist [censored] again and again.
How exactly is Bob Feller racist?
Look up Bob Feller on google. All the back handed remarks and word choice for people of color was blatant. I’m a tribe fan so I heard it on the radio for years and read numerous articles. Eventually some one called him out for it. He decided to call into a radio show argue he wasn’t but it didn’t fool anyone he got mad and hung up. His demeanor was easily read as not caring much for people of color whatsoever.
Gonna need some links/proof of that bud
https://www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=2133101
https://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/12/16/1879695/bob-feller-dies
Outside of him pushing to get Satchel Paige signed and allowing Negro League players to tour with him his comments about Hispanic players as he got older and his public feud with Jackie Robinson told the true story. This isn’t like Ty Cobb who many believed him to be racist but only went off here say. There’s numerous people over the decades that will tell you Feller was ignorant in many different ways.
So, the first article about the radio show really doesn’t mean much. From what I can tell, the interviewer just kept asking the same question after it had been answered, then kept calling Feller a racist even after he explained that he wasn’t. I don’t blame him for hanging up in that situation. If people have an agenda they want to carry out, there’s only so much you can do to change their minds.
As far as the feud with Robinson goes, I think it’s clear that they had two distinct personalities that clashed, not because of race though. Robinson asked why baseball didn’t have a black manager after 20 years of integration, and fellers response was basically that a black man shouldn’t get a job just for the sake of diversity. If he earns it, he earns it. That’s my interpretation of it. Besides, everything I’ve read says they were good friends again before Robinson died.
Feller clearly had many black teammates and willingly played with/against them without issues, so calling him a blatant racist seems incredibly unfair.
Blatant racist maybe not but a John Rocker type yes. Rocker wasn’t a racist, he’s done some interviews years later and seems pretty cool even has a black gf now and had others in the past. He just was a bigot that said what he pleased and did what he pleased. Sometimes when you are raised a certain way its hard to be impartial to every one when your environment seems to target certain types of people. Was he a product of his environment, maybe, but did he do anything to try to keep from being labeled one, no. Saying and doing are two different things. Anyone can say something to try to defend themselves but if their actions contradicted the perception then a direct explanation wouldn’t be necessary, People who feel they have to publicly defend themselves in a less than calm manner always have something to hide,
But what did he do that would label him as racist though? I don’t think disagreeing with a black man makes somebody racist, especially when there’s been many other cases of him supporting and helping lots of other black players.
As for your last point, I don’t think that’s necessarily true. When you’re defending yourself against somebody that clearly is going to call you a racist no matter what you say, I’d imagine it gets extremely frustrating to deal with said person. At some point you just have to realize that the person is a lost cause, and there’s no point in wasting your time on them anymore.
His way of talking about Hispanic players was what really set people off. I see you most likely want to defend him because you are white and I understand but the bigger picture of things is the fact that when a person of color says something it’s teen for what it was perceived. When a white persons does there’s always a loophole or way to advert. I am multi racial I see every aspect, I am in no way pro Black Lives Matter or Make America Great Again but I do see the scrutiny behind how people tend to favor an explanation for one rather than the other. So take it for what you want “bud” but I like baseball and the people involved but Bob Feller wasn’t a stand up guy.
My point about people being a lost cause applies here.
Clearly I’m not going to change your opinion, just as you’ve done nothing to change mine.
At the end of the day, neither of us knew him personally. I haven’t seen a single statement of his that sounds racist in any way to me.
So you see the scrutiny behind how people tend to favor one explanation over another, yet you’re here making assumptions that Bob Feller was racist based on statements that you want to perceive as racist, but which in reality aren’t. Alright.
Everything I’ve seen says Feller was actually a pretty great guy.
Typical but its cool I know what my ears have heard and have read just like you know your racial bias, back to baseball folks!
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The inning programs have been [censored] this year! Not one card out of 9 do I care to keep! Hey at least we make some stubs! Last year the first 3 innings u got 95 goose end game reliever! 2nd inning 98 madbum great starting pitcher ! 3rd inning u had 99 alomar , 99 Henderson and 99 Verlander!! Also if u were able to finish the players fast u could make min 300k. This year 120k tops! Hopefully 4th inning and going foward it gets way better! Lol
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@BigKJ8923 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@BigKJ8923 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@squishiesgirl said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
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The issues I’m having with the content is 80% is recycled. If we want to get technical outside of the Team Affinity Prospects its 100% recycled. Each Inning program so far has included someone that was a mainstay in line ups last year. They also are already recycling the new “Legends”. Roberts has already been in lineups as a gold since week 1. Victorino also has been widespread from team collections. Chipper has been around forever. At this rate we wont get too many ‘new” legends until near end of the games life. We will get the best versions of Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Ortiz, etc at a time when The game is almost obsolete. SDS could have had some decency to sneak in an Albert Belle or player of his quality its been 2 years. I’d rather have him again instead of Bob Feller’s racist [censored] again and again.
How exactly is Bob Feller racist?
Look up Bob Feller on google. All the back handed remarks and word choice for people of color was blatant. I’m a tribe fan so I heard it on the radio for years and read numerous articles. Eventually some one called him out for it. He decided to call into a radio show argue he wasn’t but it didn’t fool anyone he got mad and hung up. His demeanor was easily read as not caring much for people of color whatsoever.
Gonna need some links/proof of that bud
https://www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=2133101
https://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/12/16/1879695/bob-feller-dies
Outside of him pushing to get Satchel Paige signed and allowing Negro League players to tour with him his comments about Hispanic players as he got older and his public feud with Jackie Robinson told the true story. This isn’t like Ty Cobb who many believed him to be racist but only went off here say. There’s numerous people over the decades that will tell you Feller was ignorant in many different ways.
First....his comments about carribean players in that article were hardly racist.
Second...his feud with Jackie Robinson was over money and had nothing to do with race.
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@squishiesgirl said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
@BigKJ8923 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:
The issues I’m having with the content is 80% is recycled. If we want to get technical outside of the Team Affinity Prospects its 100% recycled. Each Inning program so far has included someone that was a mainstay in line ups last year. They also are already recycling the new “Legends”. Roberts has already been in lineups as a gold since week 1. Victorino also has been widespread from team collections. Chipper has been around forever. At this rate we wont get too many ‘new” legends until near end of the games life. We will get the best versions of Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Ortiz, etc at a time when The game is almost obsolete. SDS could have had some decency to sneak in an Albert Belle or player of his quality its been 2 years. I’d rather have him again instead of Bob Feller’s racist [censored] again and again.
How exactly is Bob Feller racist?
Interesting how the thread developed some details about it, but who cares?
If I'm playing some RTS game as the Mongols and I'm trying to figure out their best use and stats, I'm not lamenting they are included in another game because of their historical slaughter and devastation.
It's purely about the player, stats, and ability.
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