1.09 Patch Discussion
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@Pringle_Nation said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
Here is my post patch experience so far.
Disclaimer: ALL these clips were taken post patch in the past couple of days!
@Collin_SDS watch these clips and inform your patch team. Nobody wants to pay big bucks to complete collections and make progress with this game if our cards can’t lock on to a fly ball in the year 2020. You guys are a joke man especially with all the other GLARING issues like sinker timing windows and pitchers throwing the ball nowhere close the where you spotted it. most of us will be done with this game by June... MANY MANY MANY issues this game has. If you guys need a gameplay tester I’d be more than willing to jump onto the team and test the game before releasing this broken garbage every year. Sony fire these guys!
Pitching broken
Fielding broken
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@vagimon said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
@joshjays44 said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
@vagimon said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
@joshjays44 said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
@vagimon said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
@Collin_SDS said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
@vagimon said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
I feel like the patch didn’t take long enough to download and install. A patch needs to take at least three minutes to download and install before it makes any significant change to gameplay. That’s just science, folks.
That isn't how it works.
File size is largely from content, so 3d models, textures, audio, movies, animations, etc.
Changes or updates to binary files can be extremely small especially if it uses a delta patch.
I was being facetious, but thank you for the response regardless.
Haha vagimon got called out, I love it
You know you can’t trust technology that works too fast. That’s why I don’t use calculators and why I play Diamond Dynasty using a 7 day free trial of America Online dial up from 1997.
And you still chat online with ICQ eh?
I’m more of a note attached to a raven’s leg kind of guy.
Wow you're old school 1500's no dental care dying at 35 years style.
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@Lie-on-Lion said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
curious if they plan to 'fix' the 93mph sinker that is magically faster than a 100mph FB.
There's nothing to fix ill informed casual, its been noted that a 93mph Sinker is the same frame by frame to a 93mph fast ball, the Sinker is designed to trick your brain to appear faster with that little wrinkle at the end. This year a Sinker is actually acting like a Sinker, you're just use to before 2020 Sinkers being basically a fast ball.
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@MikeTrout__ said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
@Pringle_Nation said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
Here is my post patch experience so far.
Disclaimer: ALL these clips were taken post patch in the past couple of days!
@Collin_SDS watch these clips and inform your patch team. Nobody wants to pay big bucks to complete collections and make progress with this game if our cards can’t lock on to a fly ball in the year 2020. You guys are a joke man especially with all the other GLARING issues like sinker timing windows and pitchers throwing the ball nowhere close the where you spotted it. most of us will be done with this game by June... MANY MANY MANY issues this game has. If you guys need a gameplay tester I’d be more than willing to jump onto the team and test the game before releasing this broken garbage every year. Sony fire these guys!
Pitching broken
Fielding broken
Sinker timing windows brokenUnusual way to gain employment with them, let us know how you go.
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while playing events my right fielder Diamond Joey Gallo just took a routine fly ball off his forehead. It registered as a hit and not an error. Believe it or not the next batter got a late timed okay bloop hit and I lost the game. Fix this nonsense you are ruining this franchise.
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In a 6 inning event game, I had a center fielder not lock on to a ball in the warning track. I had a pitcher refuse to pick up a ball lying on the grass. I also had my center fielder start trotting for a pop up behind second while he was 200 feet from the ball, and about 100 feet from the ball began the breaking down to catch a grounder animation. The ball had not landed yet.
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@Pringle_Nation said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
Here is my post patch experience so far.
Disclaimer: ALL these clips were taken post patch in the past couple of days!
Thank you for putting this video together. Feedback is always helpful, and clips like this are great for showing examples.
We are examining this video and the other reports (here on TSN and elsewhere) while we work to finalize round 2 of the fielding improvements.
We appreciate everyone's thoughts and feedback with 1.09.
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@Victor_SDS said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
@Pringle_Nation said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
Here is my post patch experience so far.
Disclaimer: ALL these clips were taken post patch in the past couple of days!
Thank you for putting this video together. Feedback is always helpful, and clips like this are great for showing examples.
We are examining this video and the other reports (here on TSN and elsewhere) while we work to finalize round 2 of the fielding improvements.
We appreciate everyone's thoughts and feedback with 1.09.
Just a little helpful thought: more communication like this and a few others you've done is better than what we've had previous to this week.
I get many of us here can be idiots or rude at times but people tend to get that way when they feel like their voice is not being heard. We should not have to check Twitter just to get a notification that SDS is aware of X issue and are working to address it.
It's really simple and would go a long way to helping quell SOME of the complaint BS IMO.
Finally, thank you for being active and involved as much as you can so far this week.
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I just dont get why the fielding is such an issue (and such an issue to fix). These issues weren't in past games. The biggest thing, to me, is the continued botching of routine ground balls. I haven't had quite as many issues in the OF as others, but have had some. But the amount of infield errors is ridiculous.
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Are there any plans to patch hitting? I don’t really have any issues with fielding, but facing Ohtani and all these horrible outlier quirk pitchers in RS while swinging a 300lb bat underwater is making me want to give up on the game completely if I’m honest. I’ve not heard a single thing about hitting changes since you dropped a patch that nobody asked for shortly after launch and totally messed everything up.
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@Red_Ted_is_back said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
@MikeTrout__ said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
@Pringle_Nation said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
Here is my post patch experience so far.
Disclaimer: ALL these clips were taken post patch in the past couple of days!
@Collin_SDS watch these clips and inform your patch team. Nobody wants to pay big bucks to complete collections and make progress with this game if our cards can’t lock on to a fly ball in the year 2020. You guys are a joke man especially with all the other GLARING issues like sinker timing windows and pitchers throwing the ball nowhere close the where you spotted it. most of us will be done with this game by June... MANY MANY MANY issues this game has. If you guys need a gameplay tester I’d be more than willing to jump onto the team and test the game before releasing this broken garbage every year. Sony fire these guys!
Pitching broken
Fielding broken
Sinker timing windows brokenUnusual way to gain employment with them, let us know how you go
Called sarcasm buddy they obviously don’t test the game. That’s why I said that.
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@bhall09 said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
I just dont get why the fielding is such an issue (and such an issue to fix). These issues weren't in past games. The biggest thing, to me, is the continued botching of routine ground balls. I haven't had quite as many issues in the OF as others, but have had some. But the amount of infield errors is ridiculous.
Here yee...... Here yee...... Infielders bobbling ground balls is the new error trend. Its horrendous post patch.
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Couple of times fielders have turned their glove hands at a 90° angle to avoid grabbing a ground ball. Fielders showing less urgency in the outfield leading to missed balls and letting runs score.
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@ComebackLogic said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
Are there any plans to patch hitting? I don’t really have any issues with fielding, but facing Ohtani and all these horrible outlier quirk pitchers in RS while swinging a 300lb bat underwater is making me want to give up on the game completely if I’m honest. I’ve not heard a single thing about hitting changes since you dropped a patch that nobody asked for shortly after launch and totally messed everything up.
Probably not since it seems like hitting is working exactly how they want it to so it is a frustrating experience leading more people to pay money through rage.
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@joshjays44 said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
@JustASeal0 said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
@joshjays44 said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
@JustASeal0 said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
My fielders glitched twice in 1 play, first Gleyber not moving then Soto not locking on:
https://twitter.com/justaspheal/status/1253599165160009728?s=19
Holly dude, why is your pitch speeds so slow? That would totally throw me off so much, I've never seen it that slow...did you lower Pitch Speeds all the way down? or is this how it is in those beginner levels like Veteran and All-Star?...seems like its in slow motion.
Yeah Josh, it's called events and unfortunately if I want rewards then I have to play on it
A reward? Like a virtual pat on the back or you get cards and stuff? this is what noobs look forward to in The Show?
I know you are trying to be funny...so here is a little observation...you are overusing noobs....casuals a bit much as well..but noobs way too much..you need to work on your material
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@Tusken_Raiderz said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
@ComebackLogic said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
Are there any plans to patch hitting? I don’t really have any issues with fielding, but facing Ohtani and all these horrible outlier quirk pitchers in RS while swinging a 300lb bat underwater is making me want to give up on the game completely if I’m honest. I’ve not heard a single thing about hitting changes since you dropped a patch that nobody asked for shortly after launch and totally messed everything up.
Probably not since it seems like hitting is working exactly how they want it to so it is a frustrating experience leading more people to pay money through rage.
Dont really know where you guys get this theory from, most people would be more likely to just walk away if a game is rage inducing. I'd be far more likely to spend money on a game if I'm enjoying it.
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The game was perfect early release weekend, is it possible to unpatch it back to square 1 and start over fixing only minor bugs/glitches??? Everything seems way to random now. It seemed more user input relative at launch and the hitting engine/ physics were great. The game was so much fun! Am keeping the faith, difficult situation with everything else going on. Good luck SDS! My suggestion would be to nurf the individual pitch confidence effect or sensitivity, also reduce hanging meatballs on good timed releases and go back to day 1 Hitting. Basically in slider terms +1 user timing (hitting) and +1 on both pitcher accuracy options. -1 pitch speed differential(either fb's down one or OS up 1. Nothin but love, i know it's not that easy, peace
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@Driller94_ said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
The game was perfect early release weekend, is it possible to unpatch it back to square 1 and start over fixing only minor bugs/glitches??? Everything seems way to random now. It seemed more user input relative at launch and the hitting engine/ physics were great. The game was so much fun! Am keeping the faith, difficult situation with everything else going on. Good luck SDS! My suggestion would be to nurf the individual pitch confidence effect or sensitivity, also reduce hanging meatballs on good timed releases and go back to day 1 Hitting. Basically in slider terms +1 user timing (hitting) and +1 on both pitcher accuracy options. -1 pitch speed differential(either fb's down one or OS up 1. Nothin but love, i know it's not that easy, peace
Well said
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@maskedgrappler said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
@Tusken_Raiderz said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
@ComebackLogic said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
Are there any plans to patch hitting? I don’t really have any issues with fielding, but facing Ohtani and all these horrible outlier quirk pitchers in RS while swinging a 300lb bat underwater is making me want to give up on the game completely if I’m honest. I’ve not heard a single thing about hitting changes since you dropped a patch that nobody asked for shortly after launch and totally messed everything up.
Probably not since it seems like hitting is working exactly how they want it to so it is a frustrating experience leading more people to pay money through rage.
Dont really know where you guys get this theory from, most people would be more likely to just walk away if a game is rage inducing. I'd be far more likely to spend money on a game if I'm enjoying it.
Yeah, this^. I can’t imagine that many people are enjoying the gameplay this year to be honest. I’ve been around a while and played a ton of online and not only am I struggling with the game, but even when I win a game and I hit decently, this game isn’t fun. There’s no sense of “Let’s put MLB The Show on the PS4 and chill for a while.” It’s “Right, I’m gonna play MLB The Show. FFS. Time to get really tense, frustrated and annoyed.”
If anyone’s played RS and seen the way people are swinging out of their shoes as early as possible, check swinging on every single pitch they don’t go around on and the high rate at which early swings are rewarded compared to good and even perfect, I’m sure they’d agree that the game isn’t in a great place right now. It’s alright showcasing the game on players league as an entertaining piece of software, where hitting is on veteran and even some random MLB player with no real gaming experience can hit a few dingers to promote the game, but that’s not the actual product on offer, is it? It’s a game of good/okay contact, 175mph sinkers and frustration. While all the focus has been on fielding, (and we still haven’t closed that case yet, have we?) nothing else is getting addressed. -
I agree 100% with ComebackLogic - fix the hitting. First. Is it not possible to go back to release day when the game was overall in much better playing shape than now? Please??
