Joe Carter most underrated player
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@SaveFarris said in Joe Carter most underrated player:
Neil Walker has a higher career WAR than Carter. Neil. Walker. In fewer years.
The stats don't lie.
WAR is a terrible stat, it's an estimation with a bunch of assumptions and makes for horrible baseball conversation. It's not meant to be used the way most use it either.
The rest of Joe Carters stats, his actual real production -- very vanilla. Solid player but not great.
One of the all time most clutch moments though.
But overall it's laughable he's a 93 overall.
Well that's just silly.
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The 93 is laughable in one sense because that makes him only 2 pts. less than Trout. But when you consider that Biggio and Sheff are 99. 93 is high, but not insane. If he were a live series I think he is like an 81 low gold. If he were accurately a legend...87- 85 is fair
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@GrandpaShaft still waiting on that best hitter of all time dude
Bro i responded weirdo. Mike trout. Barry bonds. Take your pick. One of them. If I was a GM and had a choice of every hitter to ever play Id choose one of them.
Actually you said modern era so sorry for asking about all time.
Odd you didn’t pick Babe Ruth who leads in both OPS and WAR though, kinda weird to base your whole argument on Joe Carter on stats you don’t base your best hitter all time onSomeone who didnt play against black or spanish people is entirely irrelevant to everything. Bonds leads in both in the modern era. Try again.
Bonds spent 8-10 years roiding up to get those numbers try again.
Try what again? Do you people know baseball reference and fangraphs are free?!
So are a lot of reliable news outlets, yet you obviously don’t take advantage of those. Burn.
Ill be right back as I go brainwash myself listening to biased paid for news sources. BRB!
This reminded me of a funny, but truthful satirical article I saw a few years ago.
www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-blasts-media-for-reporting-things-he-says/amp
I also wouldn’t define bias as a characteristic that only applies to things you disagree with. It’s like fake news in that regard.
Also, confirmation bias. It’s a thing. You might want to check it out. Do so with caution though, you might be allergic to new information.
Dude. The CIA runs the media. If you dont think there is any bias in the media then im not sure what to say to you.
Operation mockingbird was a thing. If you think times have changed then power to you bro. If you think the media is still here for the people then power to you. But its not. Its there to brainwash and get people riled up. There is a reason when black people get killed by cops its trending within an hour. When its a white dude? Who cares. Divide and conquer. Now its time for your 7 o clock CNN brainwash session. Go on now.
CIA runs the media? Lol. I repeat. Lol. The 1st amendment is the defining characteristic of what really makes America great, not to mention the many times that classified national security documents have been leaked illegally, reported, and the whistleblower that leaked them is then prosecuted.
I think there is no bias in the media? There is a straw man if I ever saw one. Where did I say anything close to that?
As far as Twittter goes, “the media” doesn’t control that. It’s called social media for a reason.
And yes, much of the media, especially newspapers, do a great service by holding public officials and powerful individuals accountable by providing transparent information to the public.
Yeah it is funny than you dont know what operation mockingbird is. Hilarious.
Sorry I didn’t address everything in your moronic post. I don’t have enough time for that, even in quarantine.
Though it is quite ironic that someone who believes intelligence agencies control the media is a Trump supporter.
Once again there is no point in conversing with you sheep when you dont know what operation mockingbird. It is a literal fact that in the 50s the CIA launched a large scale operation to manipulate the media. And it never stopped. How a simple fact is moronic i have no clue. But it really goes to show you how stupid the average american is when you can just google this stuff. Its honestly mind numbing im mornic when you have zero knowledge of what operation mockingbird is.
Not a trump supporter. Never have voted for him. I did that to get you all riled up because I find it funny how much some dude hate this guy when he only got elected because the democratic party is clueless. Im not on the muh orange man bad train. But I dont think he should be the POTUS. So go ahead and move on and learn what operation mockingbird is before you call public facts moronic. What else do you have no clue about that our government has done? Do you know what operation northwoods is? It legit scares me that so little of you know about this stuff We are in the book 1984 already.
Moving the goal posts and using straw man arguments is your response. Did I read that right?
How did I move any goal posts? Do you even know what that means? You dont think the CIA runs the media. Im telling you to look into operation mockingbird where youll find its public knowledge they launched a huge operation to do so in the 50s. Also not sure how thats a straw man argument im telling you to inform your stupid self about something you laughed at when its literally public knowledge. Once again there is no point in arguing with you if you dont know about any of this. Keep drinking the kool aid and make sure you get that chip put in you.
Just because I don’t mention everything you say doesn’t mean I lack awareness of them. That’s quite a leap and a straw man as you are using it.
Also, this isn’t the Cold War, Nixon isn’t President, and the CIA doesn’t control “the media” (which is too vague of a term to really mean anything). There are many things that were true in 50s, 60s, and 70s that aren’t now.Moving the goal post would be dismissing your prior statements because they aren’t compatible with your latest post.
There are literal CIA members who work for the media. Why you think anything has changed since the fifties is beyond me.
It’s also ironic that you think it’s 1956. Most conservatives are driven by the desire to make it the 1950s again.
Nope. Just saying if you think the CIA just stopped meddling in propaganda and mainstream news After it clearly worked then power to you. They convinced the entire country one single man with no motive killed JFK when they likely did it.
Not a conservative as I already explained. I dont vote for rich politicians who dont care about me you or anyone else.
But you voted for Trump. The definition of rich politician who doesn’t care about you. Your stupidity is amazing
Didnt vote for trump. You people are to easy
Ok...you are just a troll. Makes sense
Nah just like messing with people who let one man they dont know affect their mental
That is entirely ignorant. Just when I thought you were trolling. That one man has impacted lives of people and people I personally care about. But equally as important he is perpetuating and exacerbating a system that was already detrimental to many people.
When I hear you I think of that Nazi proverb, “first they came for...the. They came for me”
How is anyone in a worse position now under trump then they were under anyone else lmao. Like i said you people are lost. Orange man bad!!
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@GrandpaShaft still waiting on that best hitter of all time dude
Bro i responded weirdo. Mike trout. Barry bonds. Take your pick. One of them. If I was a GM and had a choice of every hitter to ever play Id choose one of them.
Actually you said modern era so sorry for asking about all time.
Odd you didn’t pick Babe Ruth who leads in both OPS and WAR though, kinda weird to base your whole argument on Joe Carter on stats you don’t base your best hitter all time onSomeone who didnt play against black or spanish people is entirely irrelevant to everything. Bonds leads in both in the modern era. Try again.
Bonds spent 8-10 years roiding up to get those numbers try again.
Try what again? Do you people know baseball reference and fangraphs are free?!
So are a lot of reliable news outlets, yet you obviously don’t take advantage of those. Burn.
Ill be right back as I go brainwash myself listening to biased paid for news sources. BRB!
This reminded me of a funny, but truthful satirical article I saw a few years ago.
www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-blasts-media-for-reporting-things-he-says/amp
I also wouldn’t define bias as a characteristic that only applies to things you disagree with. It’s like fake news in that regard.
Also, confirmation bias. It’s a thing. You might want to check it out. Do so with caution though, you might be allergic to new information.
Dude. The CIA runs the media. If you dont think there is any bias in the media then im not sure what to say to you.
Operation mockingbird was a thing. If you think times have changed then power to you bro. If you think the media is still here for the people then power to you. But its not. Its there to brainwash and get people riled up. There is a reason when black people get killed by cops its trending within an hour. When its a white dude? Who cares. Divide and conquer. Now its time for your 7 o clock CNN brainwash session. Go on now.
CIA runs the media? Lol. I repeat. Lol. The 1st amendment is the defining characteristic of what really makes America great, not to mention the many times that classified national security documents have been leaked illegally, reported, and the whistleblower that leaked them is then prosecuted.
I think there is no bias in the media? There is a straw man if I ever saw one. Where did I say anything close to that?
As far as Twittter goes, “the media” doesn’t control that. It’s called social media for a reason.
And yes, much of the media, especially newspapers, do a great service by holding public officials and powerful individuals accountable by providing transparent information to the public.
Yeah it is funny than you dont know what operation mockingbird is. Hilarious.
Sorry I didn’t address everything in your moronic post. I don’t have enough time for that, even in quarantine.
Though it is quite ironic that someone who believes intelligence agencies control the media is a Trump supporter.
Once again there is no point in conversing with you sheep when you dont know what operation mockingbird. It is a literal fact that in the 50s the CIA launched a large scale operation to manipulate the media. And it never stopped. How a simple fact is moronic i have no clue. But it really goes to show you how stupid the average american is when you can just google this stuff. Its honestly mind numbing im mornic when you have zero knowledge of what operation mockingbird is.
Not a trump supporter. Never have voted for him. I did that to get you all riled up because I find it funny how much some dude hate this guy when he only got elected because the democratic party is clueless. Im not on the muh orange man bad train. But I dont think he should be the POTUS. So go ahead and move on and learn what operation mockingbird is before you call public facts moronic. What else do you have no clue about that our government has done? Do you know what operation northwoods is? It legit scares me that so little of you know about this stuff We are in the book 1984 already.
Moving the goal posts and using straw man arguments is your response. Did I read that right?
How did I move any goal posts? Do you even know what that means? You dont think the CIA runs the media. Im telling you to look into operation mockingbird where youll find its public knowledge they launched a huge operation to do so in the 50s. Also not sure how thats a straw man argument im telling you to inform your stupid self about something you laughed at when its literally public knowledge. Once again there is no point in arguing with you if you dont know about any of this. Keep drinking the kool aid and make sure you get that chip put in you.
Just because I don’t mention everything you say doesn’t mean I lack awareness of them. That’s quite a leap and a straw man as you are using it.
Also, this isn’t the Cold War, Nixon isn’t President, and the CIA doesn’t control “the media” (which is too vague of a term to really mean anything). There are many things that were true in 50s, 60s, and 70s that aren’t now.Moving the goal post would be dismissing your prior statements because they aren’t compatible with your latest post.
There are literal CIA members who work for the media. Why you think anything has changed since the fifties is beyond me.
It’s also ironic that you think it’s 1956. Most conservatives are driven by the desire to make it the 1950s again.
Nope. Just saying if you think the CIA just stopped meddling in propaganda and mainstream news After it clearly worked then power to you. They convinced the entire country one single man with no motive killed JFK when they likely did it.
Not a conservative as I already explained. I dont vote for rich politicians who dont care about me you or anyone else.
But you voted for Trump. The definition of rich politician who doesn’t care about you. Your stupidity is amazing
Didnt vote for trump. You people are to easy
Ok...you are just a troll. Makes sense
Nah just like messing with people who let one man they dont know affect their mental
That is entirely ignorant. Just when I thought you were trolling. That one man has impacted lives of people and people I personally care about. But equally as important he is perpetuating and exacerbating a system that was already detrimental to many people.
When I hear you I think of that Nazi proverb, “first they came for...the. They came for me”
How is anyone in a worse position now under trump then they were under anyone else lmao. Like i said you people are lost. Orange man bad!!
I don't know, do you define dead as worse?
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@GrandpaShaft still waiting on that best hitter of all time dude
Bro i responded weirdo. Mike trout. Barry bonds. Take your pick. One of them. If I was a GM and had a choice of every hitter to ever play Id choose one of them.
Actually you said modern era so sorry for asking about all time.
Odd you didn’t pick Babe Ruth who leads in both OPS and WAR though, kinda weird to base your whole argument on Joe Carter on stats you don’t base your best hitter all time onSomeone who didnt play against black or spanish people is entirely irrelevant to everything. Bonds leads in both in the modern era. Try again.
Bonds spent 8-10 years roiding up to get those numbers try again.
Try what again? Do you people know baseball reference and fangraphs are free?!
So are a lot of reliable news outlets, yet you obviously don’t take advantage of those. Burn.
Ill be right back as I go brainwash myself listening to biased paid for news sources. BRB!
This reminded me of a funny, but truthful satirical article I saw a few years ago.
www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-blasts-media-for-reporting-things-he-says/amp
I also wouldn’t define bias as a characteristic that only applies to things you disagree with. It’s like fake news in that regard.
Also, confirmation bias. It’s a thing. You might want to check it out. Do so with caution though, you might be allergic to new information.
Dude. The CIA runs the media. If you dont think there is any bias in the media then im not sure what to say to you.
Operation mockingbird was a thing. If you think times have changed then power to you bro. If you think the media is still here for the people then power to you. But its not. Its there to brainwash and get people riled up. There is a reason when black people get killed by cops its trending within an hour. When its a white dude? Who cares. Divide and conquer. Now its time for your 7 o clock CNN brainwash session. Go on now.
CIA runs the media? Lol. I repeat. Lol. The 1st amendment is the defining characteristic of what really makes America great, not to mention the many times that classified national security documents have been leaked illegally, reported, and the whistleblower that leaked them is then prosecuted.
I think there is no bias in the media? There is a straw man if I ever saw one. Where did I say anything close to that?
As far as Twittter goes, “the media” doesn’t control that. It’s called social media for a reason.
And yes, much of the media, especially newspapers, do a great service by holding public officials and powerful individuals accountable by providing transparent information to the public.
Yeah it is funny than you dont know what operation mockingbird is. Hilarious.
Sorry I didn’t address everything in your moronic post. I don’t have enough time for that, even in quarantine.
Though it is quite ironic that someone who believes intelligence agencies control the media is a Trump supporter.
Once again there is no point in conversing with you sheep when you dont know what operation mockingbird. It is a literal fact that in the 50s the CIA launched a large scale operation to manipulate the media. And it never stopped. How a simple fact is moronic i have no clue. But it really goes to show you how stupid the average american is when you can just google this stuff. Its honestly mind numbing im mornic when you have zero knowledge of what operation mockingbird is.
Not a trump supporter. Never have voted for him. I did that to get you all riled up because I find it funny how much some dude hate this guy when he only got elected because the democratic party is clueless. Im not on the muh orange man bad train. But I dont think he should be the POTUS. So go ahead and move on and learn what operation mockingbird is before you call public facts moronic. What else do you have no clue about that our government has done? Do you know what operation northwoods is? It legit scares me that so little of you know about this stuff We are in the book 1984 already.
Moving the goal posts and using straw man arguments is your response. Did I read that right?
How did I move any goal posts? Do you even know what that means? You dont think the CIA runs the media. Im telling you to look into operation mockingbird where youll find its public knowledge they launched a huge operation to do so in the 50s. Also not sure how thats a straw man argument im telling you to inform your stupid self about something you laughed at when its literally public knowledge. Once again there is no point in arguing with you if you dont know about any of this. Keep drinking the kool aid and make sure you get that chip put in you.
Just because I don’t mention everything you say doesn’t mean I lack awareness of them. That’s quite a leap and a straw man as you are using it.
Also, this isn’t the Cold War, Nixon isn’t President, and the CIA doesn’t control “the media” (which is too vague of a term to really mean anything). There are many things that were true in 50s, 60s, and 70s that aren’t now.Moving the goal post would be dismissing your prior statements because they aren’t compatible with your latest post.
There are literal CIA members who work for the media. Why you think anything has changed since the fifties is beyond me.
It’s also ironic that you think it’s 1956. Most conservatives are driven by the desire to make it the 1950s again.
Nope. Just saying if you think the CIA just stopped meddling in propaganda and mainstream news After it clearly worked then power to you. They convinced the entire country one single man with no motive killed JFK when they likely did it.
Not a conservative as I already explained. I dont vote for rich politicians who dont care about me you or anyone else.
But you voted for Trump. The definition of rich politician who doesn’t care about you. Your stupidity is amazing
Didnt vote for trump. You people are to easy
Ok...you are just a troll. Makes sense
Nah just like messing with people who let one man they dont know affect their mental
That is entirely ignorant. Just when I thought you were trolling. That one man has impacted lives of people and people I personally care about. But equally as important he is perpetuating and exacerbating a system that was already detrimental to many people.
When I hear you I think of that Nazi proverb, “first they came for...the. They came for me”
How is anyone in a worse position now under trump then they were under anyone else lmao. Like i said you people are lost. Orange man bad!!
I don't know, do you define dead as worse?
You people are actually brain dead. If you are blaming a virus dirty people in china started on trump then okay. It was going to happen no matter what. But yeah at least I know now you have no real answer as to how your life was any different these past four years. ORANGE MAN BAD LIBERAL GOOD
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@GrandpaShaft still waiting on that best hitter of all time dude
Bro i responded weirdo. Mike trout. Barry bonds. Take your pick. One of them. If I was a GM and had a choice of every hitter to ever play Id choose one of them.
Actually you said modern era so sorry for asking about all time.
Odd you didn’t pick Babe Ruth who leads in both OPS and WAR though, kinda weird to base your whole argument on Joe Carter on stats you don’t base your best hitter all time onSomeone who didnt play against black or spanish people is entirely irrelevant to everything. Bonds leads in both in the modern era. Try again.
Bonds spent 8-10 years roiding up to get those numbers try again.
Try what again? Do you people know baseball reference and fangraphs are free?!
So are a lot of reliable news outlets, yet you obviously don’t take advantage of those. Burn.
Ill be right back as I go brainwash myself listening to biased paid for news sources. BRB!
This reminded me of a funny, but truthful satirical article I saw a few years ago.
www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-blasts-media-for-reporting-things-he-says/amp
I also wouldn’t define bias as a characteristic that only applies to things you disagree with. It’s like fake news in that regard.
Also, confirmation bias. It’s a thing. You might want to check it out. Do so with caution though, you might be allergic to new information.
Dude. The CIA runs the media. If you dont think there is any bias in the media then im not sure what to say to you.
Operation mockingbird was a thing. If you think times have changed then power to you bro. If you think the media is still here for the people then power to you. But its not. Its there to brainwash and get people riled up. There is a reason when black people get killed by cops its trending within an hour. When its a white dude? Who cares. Divide and conquer. Now its time for your 7 o clock CNN brainwash session. Go on now.
CIA runs the media? Lol. I repeat. Lol. The 1st amendment is the defining characteristic of what really makes America great, not to mention the many times that classified national security documents have been leaked illegally, reported, and the whistleblower that leaked them is then prosecuted.
I think there is no bias in the media? There is a straw man if I ever saw one. Where did I say anything close to that?
As far as Twittter goes, “the media” doesn’t control that. It’s called social media for a reason.
And yes, much of the media, especially newspapers, do a great service by holding public officials and powerful individuals accountable by providing transparent information to the public.
Yeah it is funny than you dont know what operation mockingbird is. Hilarious.
Sorry I didn’t address everything in your moronic post. I don’t have enough time for that, even in quarantine.
Though it is quite ironic that someone who believes intelligence agencies control the media is a Trump supporter.
Once again there is no point in conversing with you sheep when you dont know what operation mockingbird. It is a literal fact that in the 50s the CIA launched a large scale operation to manipulate the media. And it never stopped. How a simple fact is moronic i have no clue. But it really goes to show you how stupid the average american is when you can just google this stuff. Its honestly mind numbing im mornic when you have zero knowledge of what operation mockingbird is.
Not a trump supporter. Never have voted for him. I did that to get you all riled up because I find it funny how much some dude hate this guy when he only got elected because the democratic party is clueless. Im not on the muh orange man bad train. But I dont think he should be the POTUS. So go ahead and move on and learn what operation mockingbird is before you call public facts moronic. What else do you have no clue about that our government has done? Do you know what operation northwoods is? It legit scares me that so little of you know about this stuff We are in the book 1984 already.
Moving the goal posts and using straw man arguments is your response. Did I read that right?
How did I move any goal posts? Do you even know what that means? You dont think the CIA runs the media. Im telling you to look into operation mockingbird where youll find its public knowledge they launched a huge operation to do so in the 50s. Also not sure how thats a straw man argument im telling you to inform your stupid self about something you laughed at when its literally public knowledge. Once again there is no point in arguing with you if you dont know about any of this. Keep drinking the kool aid and make sure you get that chip put in you.
Just because I don’t mention everything you say doesn’t mean I lack awareness of them. That’s quite a leap and a straw man as you are using it.
Also, this isn’t the Cold War, Nixon isn’t President, and the CIA doesn’t control “the media” (which is too vague of a term to really mean anything). There are many things that were true in 50s, 60s, and 70s that aren’t now.Moving the goal post would be dismissing your prior statements because they aren’t compatible with your latest post.
There are literal CIA members who work for the media. Why you think anything has changed since the fifties is beyond me.
It’s also ironic that you think it’s 1956. Most conservatives are driven by the desire to make it the 1950s again.
Nope. Just saying if you think the CIA just stopped meddling in propaganda and mainstream news After it clearly worked then power to you. They convinced the entire country one single man with no motive killed JFK when they likely did it.
Not a conservative as I already explained. I dont vote for rich politicians who dont care about me you or anyone else.
But you voted for Trump. The definition of rich politician who doesn’t care about you. Your stupidity is amazing
Didnt vote for trump. You people are to easy
Ok...you are just a troll. Makes sense
Nah just like messing with people who let one man they dont know affect their mental
That is entirely ignorant. Just when I thought you were trolling. That one man has impacted lives of people and people I personally care about. But equally as important he is perpetuating and exacerbating a system that was already detrimental to many people.
When I hear you I think of that Nazi proverb, “first they came for...the. They came for me”
How is anyone in a worse position now under trump then they were under anyone else lmao. Like i said you people are lost. Orange man bad!!
I don't know, do you define dead as worse?
You people are actually brain dead. If you are blaming a virus dirty people in china started on trump then okay. It was going to happen no matter what. But yeah at least I know now you have no real answer as to how your life was any different these past four years. ORANGE MAN BAD LIBERAL GOOD
You don't think a more competent leader would have made decisions that resulted in fewer deaths then? Remember my fire analogy 5 or 6 pages ago? I don't blame him for the virus, I blame him for his lack of preparedness and late/disorganized response. Back to work. happy trolling.
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@GrandpaShaft still waiting on that best hitter of all time dude
Bro i responded weirdo. Mike trout. Barry bonds. Take your pick. One of them. If I was a GM and had a choice of every hitter to ever play Id choose one of them.
Actually you said modern era so sorry for asking about all time.
Odd you didn’t pick Babe Ruth who leads in both OPS and WAR though, kinda weird to base your whole argument on Joe Carter on stats you don’t base your best hitter all time onSomeone who didnt play against black or spanish people is entirely irrelevant to everything. Bonds leads in both in the modern era. Try again.
Bonds spent 8-10 years roiding up to get those numbers try again.
Try what again? Do you people know baseball reference and fangraphs are free?!
So are a lot of reliable news outlets, yet you obviously don’t take advantage of those. Burn.
Ill be right back as I go brainwash myself listening to biased paid for news sources. BRB!
This reminded me of a funny, but truthful satirical article I saw a few years ago.
www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-blasts-media-for-reporting-things-he-says/amp
I also wouldn’t define bias as a characteristic that only applies to things you disagree with. It’s like fake news in that regard.
Also, confirmation bias. It’s a thing. You might want to check it out. Do so with caution though, you might be allergic to new information.
Dude. The CIA runs the media. If you dont think there is any bias in the media then im not sure what to say to you.
Operation mockingbird was a thing. If you think times have changed then power to you bro. If you think the media is still here for the people then power to you. But its not. Its there to brainwash and get people riled up. There is a reason when black people get killed by cops its trending within an hour. When its a white dude? Who cares. Divide and conquer. Now its time for your 7 o clock CNN brainwash session. Go on now.
CIA runs the media? Lol. I repeat. Lol. The 1st amendment is the defining characteristic of what really makes America great, not to mention the many times that classified national security documents have been leaked illegally, reported, and the whistleblower that leaked them is then prosecuted.
I think there is no bias in the media? There is a straw man if I ever saw one. Where did I say anything close to that?
As far as Twittter goes, “the media” doesn’t control that. It’s called social media for a reason.
And yes, much of the media, especially newspapers, do a great service by holding public officials and powerful individuals accountable by providing transparent information to the public.
Yeah it is funny than you dont know what operation mockingbird is. Hilarious.
Sorry I didn’t address everything in your moronic post. I don’t have enough time for that, even in quarantine.
Though it is quite ironic that someone who believes intelligence agencies control the media is a Trump supporter.
Once again there is no point in conversing with you sheep when you dont know what operation mockingbird. It is a literal fact that in the 50s the CIA launched a large scale operation to manipulate the media. And it never stopped. How a simple fact is moronic i have no clue. But it really goes to show you how stupid the average american is when you can just google this stuff. Its honestly mind numbing im mornic when you have zero knowledge of what operation mockingbird is.
Not a trump supporter. Never have voted for him. I did that to get you all riled up because I find it funny how much some dude hate this guy when he only got elected because the democratic party is clueless. Im not on the muh orange man bad train. But I dont think he should be the POTUS. So go ahead and move on and learn what operation mockingbird is before you call public facts moronic. What else do you have no clue about that our government has done? Do you know what operation northwoods is? It legit scares me that so little of you know about this stuff We are in the book 1984 already.
Moving the goal posts and using straw man arguments is your response. Did I read that right?
How did I move any goal posts? Do you even know what that means? You dont think the CIA runs the media. Im telling you to look into operation mockingbird where youll find its public knowledge they launched a huge operation to do so in the 50s. Also not sure how thats a straw man argument im telling you to inform your stupid self about something you laughed at when its literally public knowledge. Once again there is no point in arguing with you if you dont know about any of this. Keep drinking the kool aid and make sure you get that chip put in you.
Just because I don’t mention everything you say doesn’t mean I lack awareness of them. That’s quite a leap and a straw man as you are using it.
Also, this isn’t the Cold War, Nixon isn’t President, and the CIA doesn’t control “the media” (which is too vague of a term to really mean anything). There are many things that were true in 50s, 60s, and 70s that aren’t now.Moving the goal post would be dismissing your prior statements because they aren’t compatible with your latest post.
There are literal CIA members who work for the media. Why you think anything has changed since the fifties is beyond me.
It’s also ironic that you think it’s 1956. Most conservatives are driven by the desire to make it the 1950s again.
Nope. Just saying if you think the CIA just stopped meddling in propaganda and mainstream news After it clearly worked then power to you. They convinced the entire country one single man with no motive killed JFK when they likely did it.
Not a conservative as I already explained. I dont vote for rich politicians who dont care about me you or anyone else.
But you voted for Trump. The definition of rich politician who doesn’t care about you. Your stupidity is amazing
Didnt vote for trump. You people are to easy
Ok...you are just a troll. Makes sense
Nah just like messing with people who let one man they dont know affect their mental
That is entirely ignorant. Just when I thought you were trolling. That one man has impacted lives of people and people I personally care about. But equally as important he is perpetuating and exacerbating a system that was already detrimental to many people.
When I hear you I think of that Nazi proverb, “first they came for...the. They came for me”
How is anyone in a worse position now under trump then they were under anyone else lmao. Like i said you people are lost. Orange man bad!!
- Those who no longer have healthcare because of rollbacks
- The spike in hate crimes
- The rollback in regulations that allowed form sales of 737 planes which subsequently crashed and killed people.
- The imminent domain that was claimed on reservation For pipelines which will impact drinking water for people on reservations.
- Immigrants separated and put in cages
- Dept of education not allowing loans from feasible to universities from being waived
- Literally anything to do with coronavirus response from not acting. To not allowing states to buy vents Lott’s then giving a portion to the state as a political gift to a senator (see Colorado). Coronavirus may need a separate section.
- Pulling out of Syria too quick which cost lives of Allies and creating a scenario where future allies would be weary of joining with us.
- Effectively Not allowing federal research into global warming
Do I need to keep going. That was just a quick 9. I think I could hit 40 easily off of what I remember maybe 50-60 if I had help. He has done so much damage that the press can’t even effectively report on all of it.
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Just to be clear. Obama wasn’t perfect but he was [censored] good. Biden is a god awful candidate. And there are serious problems with our politics pre-Trump.
However, Trump is so especially horrible in so many critical ways. He is like a gun shot wound on an alcoholic. Yes long term you need to treat the alcoholism. Hell the alcoholism could have led to the gun shot wound. But none of that matters if you don’t treat the gun shot wound and the patient bleeds out.
Even after Trumpbis no longer in office. Quite frankly there are people like you out there to be manipulated. Low informed portions of the electorate that Fox News, the Republicans and corporate dems have allowed to grow like a cancer....the deplorables
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23 pages. It was a nice run.
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23 pages. It was a nice run.
I think we might have more in us
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Joe Carter was incredibly consistent. He played in an era where some guys were lucky to hit ~10 HRs. Nowadays the most avg of hitters are popping 20+. I think we live in a world where small ball is gone and HRS sell. If he were to play today, He’d be very valuable.
Players within 10 Hrs +- : Decent company to keep.
Duke Snider 407
Nelson Cruz 401
Andres Galarraga 399
Al Kaline 399
Dale Murphy 398
Joe Carter 396
Jim Edmonds 393
Graig Nettles 390
Johnny Bench 389
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Okay, but Carter wasn’t even that good by traditional statistics. He was a stat packer. He hit .259 in his career and only led the league once in a major stat (RBI’s). He was a below average defender, and yeah he could hit home runs, but again, he never led the league in that stat. The only reason he accumulated the stats he did was because he avoided injuries and was consistently put in a lineup spot that allowed him to drive in so many runs.
Guess those managers who put him in those lineup spots didn't know much about baseball...because...uh..WAR and stuff. Lol
I’m not saying he wasn’t a good hitter. But he had a low average, very low OBP, and the reason he drove in those runs is because the people in front of him could get on base, therefore, he had many more opportunities to drive them in.
The reason his managers hit him in middle of the order spots is because they based their lineups off the same ideas you’re suggesting.
So these managers put someone with a very low average and OBP in the spot where they wanted someone who would drive in the runners that were on base?
Man, these guys had no idea how baseball works!
Lucky for them it worked out so well!
Where are you gonna put the guys who hit for power more than for average? At the top of the order? There’s a reason the .250 guys with 25 home runs hit in the middle of the order, and it’s not because they’re just “pretty good”.
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