No 99 Edgar is crazy
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You make good points.
I’m more thinking about like Tony Gwynn or Don Mattingly or Wade Boggs type guys. Sure, none of us expect Richie Ashburn to have tons of pop, but Edgar is the guy the top DH award is named after. He is a career .300+ hitter with batting titles, silver sluggers, etc. A player like that should get a decent card, imo. -
Following on these points, I'm going to do my usual Paul Molitor thing: so this year, they do the twist on the Awards series cards and they include postseason awards. I'm thinking, finally! A Paul Molitor World Series MVP card -- he slugged in that WS so the card will finally have some pop! And they didn't give him one.
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@halfbutt Tony got the best card he can possibly get. They cannot give him 110 power … Mattingly got a very good 99 … To me, SDS nailed both of em … Boggs even got a better card than both of them. Maxed out contact with 112 power vs Righties, max vision/Clutch… Plus he has an awesome swing
@cbpm72_PSN same goes for little Paul … he got a very good near maxed out contact, with good (not great) power. You cannot max out Paul to be like Willie Mays
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@YOSHI24 said in No 99 Edgar is crazy:
@cbpm72 same goes for little Paul … he got a very good near maxed out contact, with good (not great) power. You cannot max out Paul to be like Willie Mays
For a time-limited postseason awards card, you could. If the awards card is for the world series MVP, then that's the stats base for the card. I guess that's why they didn't give him one, because they didn't want to up the power?
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@cbpm72 … Yes, to me because it would be unrealistic. They do it, but maybe just not for Paul. Who besides us two likes him
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@YOSHI24
I’m wondering if anyone has tried Boggs at third? Those animations would be interesting!I’m not saying the cards are bad, per se (although Edgar’s is egregiously lacking power imo). It just seems that SDS has no problem making current players with LS bronzes into potential end game cards, whereas the legends get their stats converted to attributes meticulously.
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@halfbutt … again, where are you getting those wild ideas from? You are constantly stating things without proof … Which current live series broze is playing like an end-game-card? Yes, the have superfracture, but that was a s special feature. But other than that?
Which Legend is „underpowered“. Shall they make Lou Brock 125 across the board (he is actually a stud the way he is built)? Or Boggs (he is a stud too)?
Boggs is a natural 3B-men, he plays good. But I think you meant Donnie ..
And do not get back to Edgar … He is one (and he did not get an endgame card this year) and you are saying „Legends“ (which is plural) -
@halfbutt said in No 99 Edgar is crazy:
@YOSHI24
I’m wondering if anyone has tried Boggs at third?I’ve been playing Boggs at third with my legends team and he’s pretty solid making many diving stops etc but lol then again I threw out Ricky Henderson as he tried to steal second with Carlos Delgado behind the dish haha which is an easy reminder that this is a vidya game and not reality but still it remains a fun way to pass the time
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@YOSHI24
I mean, the title of the thread answers your question. Edgar Martinez is the perfect example.As for LS bronze players with diamond cards, there are tons. Ryan Noda, Jack Suwinski, Sean Manaea, Jake Cronenworth, Diego Cartaya, Masyn Winn… there’s tons.
Now are these cards a bad thing? Hell no. But that Ryan Noda card, for example, has 103/125 power. By contrast, the best Edgar card in the game this year has 100/75 power.
The fact that Edgar has 75 power vs L because he had thousands more appearances vs R in his 20ish year career is inappropriate “realism” IMO.
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@halfbutt said in No 99 Edgar is crazy:
@YOSHI24
I mean, the title of the thread answers your question. Edgar Martinez is the perfect example.As for LS bronze players with diamond cards, there are tons. Ryan Noda, Jack Suwinski, Sean Manaea, Jake Cronenworth, Diego Cartaya, Masyn Winn… there’s tons.
Now are these cards a bad thing? Hell no. But that Ryan Noda card, for example, has 103/125 power. By contrast, the best Edgar card in the game this year has 100/75 power.
The fact that Edgar has 75 power vs L because he had thousands more appearances vs R in his 20ish year career is inappropriate “realism” IMO.
I don’t mind those cards because they are finest and reward a player for a good year or Topps now cards
I just don’t understand why they don’t reward so many legends which they have the rights to and had amazing careers
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@halfbutt said in No 99 Edgar is crazy:
@YOSHI24
I mean, the title of the thread answers your question. Edgar Martinez is the perfect example.As for LS bronze players with diamond cards, there are tons. Ryan Noda, Jack Suwinski, Sean Manaea, Jake Cronenworth, Diego Cartaya, Masyn Winn… there’s tons.
Now are these cards a bad thing? Hell no. But that Ryan Noda card, for example, has 103/125 power. By contrast, the best Edgar card in the game this year has 100/75 power.
The fact that Edgar has 75 power vs L because he had thousands more appearances vs R in his 20ish year career is inappropriate “realism” IMO.
If you continue to run back and cry about Edgar … okay. But you said „… players with LS bronzes into potential end game cards, whereas the legends …“ … you used the plural in legends which I referred to.
Other than that: Well, we got Topps Now and Finest. That means we get random weekly cards of „good performaners“. Those Topps Now Cards are not great, they are fillers. Nobody uses them a lot. And then we have finest … aka „the best players of each team this year“ … Well, you got the A‘s … and that is how Noda got his one.
If you continue crying about Edgar … that‘s your right, but again, you used the plural and that is a pretty random (and imo false argument) …
I am realizing that we have dozens of this „I cry about player X, because I did not like“-threads … We had a great Edgar last year and this year we did not … Could he have gotten a better and Schwarber one less? Yes, absolutely -
I’m not crying about anything. If you don’t agree with the premise of the thread, that is fine, but the thread is literally about the Edgar Martinez card this year.
Should I start another thread about Minnie Minoso, or can we talk about him here??
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No, fine … My only problem is with „They do legends wrong and LS Brozes get better ones“ (that is not a direct quote)… which is wrong. You can complain about Edgar … fine. But is wrong saying that legends are not given what they deserve. All online modes are filled with them and nobody uses bad finest/Topps Now cards. We do have them but that does not fit the narrative
To your question: … everybody makes useless duplicate threads, feel free
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@YOSHI24
When I made that comment, I was mostly thinking of players like Elly De La Cruz. I know it’s an unpopular take, but Elly has a LS silver, so maybe I was slightly off, however the point still stands. He has not one, but three 99’s, but has played less than 100 games in the MLB and has a career war of 0.8. -
Ok, but EVERYBODY loves Elly (and … I am being honest: only few like Edgar). His chase card is arguably the best card in the game. Did he deserve multiple? Probably no but I get that SDS gave him a Finest so that everybody could have an Elly.
Again, I would have given Edgar a 99, but it would be extremly boring if everybody would get every player „right“ each year. We would have exactly the same cards over and over again. These kind of discussions (if they would ever end and/or did not exaggerate all the time) belong to DD imo
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I will end it here with:
The 97 Edgar is awesome on your theme team. Take Teoscar as a cpt that gives him +15/10 on power and 10 on contactR … It is close to the Edgar we got last year imo … and got enough. -
@YOSHI24
I have been doing just that! I do like using one of the pitching captains (Gilbert or RJ) also, so sometimes I forego Teoscar in RF so I can use Mike Cameron.
Edgar is hitting .333/.333/.333 for me so far. A bit more pop would be nice but he is pretty clutch and gets decent pitches to hit because nobody is afraid of him. Lol. -
Also, I’m pretty sure a big part of the reason “everyone loves Elly” is his card is insane. Tons more people would love Edgar if his card was comparable. That’s kinda the point.
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@halfbutt said in No 99 Edgar is crazy:
Also, I’m pretty sure a big part of the reason “everyone loves Elly” is his card is insane. Tons more people would love Edgar if his card was comparable. That’s kinda the point.
I agree on your point. Although stealing 2nd, 3rd, and home off the same at bat, plus hitting for the cycle all as a rookie is pretty insane.
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@broken_toy1 said in No 99 Edgar is crazy:
@halfbutt said in No 99 Edgar is crazy:
Also, I’m pretty sure a big part of the reason “everyone loves Elly” is his card is insane. Tons more people would love Edgar if his card was comparable. That’s kinda the point.
I agree on your point. Although stealing 2nd, 3rd, and home off the same at bat, plus hitting for the cycle all as a rookie is pretty insane.
The cycle. I’d rather a single, double and 2 homeruns. Lol.
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@halfbutt said in No 99 Edgar is crazy:
Also, I’m pretty sure a big part of the reason “everyone loves Elly” is his card is insane. Tons more people would love Edgar if his card was comparable. That’s kinda the point.
He had an awesome 22 card and nobody used him (even I did not use him
). Elly is a 5-tool-guy … switch-hitting shortstop … he also fits the big Captain Squads
