This is the most pay to win the show has ever been
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@Pergo_MLBTS said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
Its exactly the opposite for me. For the first time I see no reason to spend any real money.
exactly. Im not even sure what the OP is talking about. I got 99 Trout through the programs, i got Lou Gherig through the program for RS, and i got other "good" 99s through just playing....i normally have purchased 3-5 50 packs by now and ive only bought stubs once. I did buy another 50 pack, but it was from earned stubs. It is way easier this year to get cards (dont tell SDS lol)
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This game isn’t pay to win. You can grind literally every card in the game if you are 1)good or 2)have loads of free time.
So, if you want all the cards, increase 1 or 2.
3 option would be to open up the wallet
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@stryder_28_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
This game isn’t pay to win. You can grind literally every card in the game if you are 1)good or 2)have loads of free time.
So, if you want all the cards, increase 1 or 2.
3 option would be to open up the wallet
This is the truth.
Also the truth: most people aren't that good and the grind is brutal, so the game certainly sets up a structure that incentivizes micropurchases.
Given the business model of the industry, SDS does an admirable job of providing a middle ground.
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@stryder_28_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
This game isn’t pay to win. You can grind literally every card in the game if you are 1)good or 2)have loads of free time.
So, if you want all the cards, increase 1 or 2.
3 option would be to open up the wallet
I said it before and I will say it again. I personally don't believe the game is pay to win but I feel SDS/Sony has leaned heavily into an aggressive monetization plan where players are paying end-game prices for cards that have expiration dates and will need to be replaced again in a few months. Seems like a cycle of overly expensive end game cards that the average player will not be keep up with.
Just because you don't have to spend money to get the stubs for these types of cards don't fool yourself into thinking that there are not a ton of people out there doing exactly that.
I can see people saying
"I want the Jordan Walker and Corbin Carroll cards but by the time I save up 300K in stubs a big chunk of their 3 months of usefulness will be over. I should just buy some stubs now so I can maximize my time with those cards."
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Well, correct. They have that choice. Or you can complete the BR and ranked programs and sell those cards, or do both. This is a problem of people wanting all the cards but not wanting to work and/or pay for it.
I have played a lot (more than I’d like to admit) this month, but have spent no money, and have LS done and chipper. It’s doable. Grind and be patient and don’t buy packs. Packs are never worth it
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@Dolenz_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
@stryder_28_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
This game isn’t pay to win. You can grind literally every card in the game if you are 1)good or 2)have loads of free time.
So, if you want all the cards, increase 1 or 2.
3 option would be to open up the wallet
I said it before and I will say it again. I personally don't believe the game is pay to win but I feel SDS/Sony has leaned heavily into an aggressive monetization plan where players are paying end-game prices for cards that have expiration dates and will need to be replaced again in a few months. Seems like a cycle of overly expensive end game cards that the average player will not be keep up with.
Do we 100% KNOW that Set 1 won't be put back into the useable column for Season 4,5,6,Forever?
All we know is that they (wildcard notwithstanding) won't be eligible for Ranked during Season 3.
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@go4stros25_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
Yes, they are giving out good diamonds for free, but the ones you can get for free are 92s and 97s or a flawed 99. If you hope to remain competitive online at the higher ranks their will be a new 99 card you will need for another 80k stubs.
Add to all this that these cards will expire!!! At which point they get to dangle a new season collection and a bunch of new 99s in everyone face.
This years game is absolute garbage. The gamplay is fun, and I love baseball, but this feels like a money grab.
Not true. Sammy is ok, Mark sucks, and Jeter is ok. U have to grind for the best cards in the game, which are Chipper and Ruth. Best pitchers are Pedro, Sasaki, Bob Gibson, Feller, and Ohtani.
I'll give u the ptw to get most of the better pitchers, but the best hitters u have to grind for.
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@SaveFarris_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
@Dolenz_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
@stryder_28_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
This game isn’t pay to win. You can grind literally every card in the game if you are 1)good or 2)have loads of free time.
So, if you want all the cards, increase 1 or 2.
3 option would be to open up the wallet
I said it before and I will say it again. I personally don't believe the game is pay to win but I feel SDS/Sony has leaned heavily into an aggressive monetization plan where players are paying end-game prices for cards that have expiration dates and will need to be replaced again in a few months. Seems like a cycle of overly expensive end game cards that the average player will not be keep up with.
Do we 100% KNOW that Set 1 won't be put back into the useable column for Season 4,5,6,Forever?
All we know is that they (wildcard notwithstanding) won't be eligible for Ranked during Season 3.
We don't know anything for sure yet, but I am not holding my breath that the cards will be useable in seasons 4-6.
At best they will be re-added at the very end of the year when many have already moved on from the game.
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@aaronjw76_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
@PScrabro_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
@go4stros25_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
@IrishFist412_XBL said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
If the better player has a team of 97’s - He will beat the guy with 99’s. This isn’t Madden.
Please. This game has removed any and all skill gap. That's why all you casuals are in full shill mode.
He's blowing smoke anyways... I will play Madden against anybody here that thinks a 99 team is an easy win over an inferior team. You go into MUT H2H with a 99 team and play a better player with a 95 team... you will lose. Seriously anybody wants to talk how Madden is no skill, prove it... let's play... I will let you pick my team.
Madden skill gap is knowledge. Mlb skill gap is actual stick skills.
Both games, a superior player with a lesser team will beat an inferior player with a much better team but a 99 vs 95 isn't that big of a differential. You get a 90 over team, still winning? I say no. Only a few guys can do that and they are usually comp guys.
If you think there is no stick skills in Madden... you don't play Madden. I use the Dolphins 81 ovr. when I play regs and mostly matchup against teams like the Chiefs, Bills, and Eagles which are all 90+ and still have a winning record every year completely outmatched in team overall. As far as MUT... it's the same thing, an inexperienced player with a 99 ovr. team is gonna get smoked every time against good players no matter how bad their team is. If our skills are equal... then overall will be an advantage just like this game. It's funny how people are always trashing Madden skills and all that here... but anybody who plays both games regularly will vouch that Madden takes just as much skill as this game team stacked or not. I'm totally willing to play a game against anybody here who thinks there is no skill gap and you can pick my team... I will use the worst team in regs and you can pick one of the God squads and I haven't even turned on Madden since this game came out.
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@PScrabro_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
@aaronjw76_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
@PScrabro_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
@go4stros25_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
@IrishFist412_XBL said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
If the better player has a team of 97’s - He will beat the guy with 99’s. This isn’t Madden.
Please. This game has removed any and all skill gap. That's why all you casuals are in full shill mode.
He's blowing smoke anyways... I will play Madden against anybody here that thinks a 99 team is an easy win over an inferior team. You go into MUT H2H with a 99 team and play a better player with a 95 team... you will lose. Seriously anybody wants to talk how Madden is no skill, prove it... let's play... I will let you pick my team.
Madden skill gap is knowledge. Mlb skill gap is actual stick skills.
Both games, a superior player with a lesser team will beat an inferior player with a much better team but a 99 vs 95 isn't that big of a differential. You get a 90 over team, still winning? I say no. Only a few guys can do that and they are usually comp guys.
If you think there is no stick skills in Madden... you don't play Madden. I use the Dolphins 81 ovr. when I play regs and mostly matchup against teams like the Chiefs, Bills, and Eagles which are all 90+ and still have a winning record every year completely outmatched in team overall. As far as MUT... it's the same thing, an inexperienced player with a 99 ovr. team is gonna get smoked every time against good players no matter how bad their team is. If our skills are equal... then overall will be an advantage just like this game. It's funny how people are always trashing Madden skills and all that here... but anybody who plays both games regularly will vouch that Madden takes just as much skill as this game team stacked or not. I'm totally willing to play a game against anybody here who thinks there is no skill gap and you can pick my team... I will use the worst team in regs and you can pick one of the God squads and I haven't even turned on Madden since this game came out.
not exactly, in MUT 90 percent of the time the team with the bad player, with a stacked team with all the right abilties is going to beat the experienced player with a team full of stock cards that are abilityless. Madden cards are only as good as the abilities they get.
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@SotaNice-_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
@PScrabro_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
@aaronjw76_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
@PScrabro_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
@go4stros25_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
@IrishFist412_XBL said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
If the better player has a team of 97’s - He will beat the guy with 99’s. This isn’t Madden.
Please. This game has removed any and all skill gap. That's why all you casuals are in full shill mode.
He's blowing smoke anyways... I will play Madden against anybody here that thinks a 99 team is an easy win over an inferior team. You go into MUT H2H with a 99 team and play a better player with a 95 team... you will lose. Seriously anybody wants to talk how Madden is no skill, prove it... let's play... I will let you pick my team.
Madden skill gap is knowledge. Mlb skill gap is actual stick skills.
Both games, a superior player with a lesser team will beat an inferior player with a much better team but a 99 vs 95 isn't that big of a differential. You get a 90 over team, still winning? I say no. Only a few guys can do that and they are usually comp guys.
If you think there is no stick skills in Madden... you don't play Madden. I use the Dolphins 81 ovr. when I play regs and mostly matchup against teams like the Chiefs, Bills, and Eagles which are all 90+ and still have a winning record every year completely outmatched in team overall. As far as MUT... it's the same thing, an inexperienced player with a 99 ovr. team is gonna get smoked every time against good players no matter how bad their team is. If our skills are equal... then overall will be an advantage just like this game. It's funny how people are always trashing Madden skills and all that here... but anybody who plays both games regularly will vouch that Madden takes just as much skill as this game team stacked or not. I'm totally willing to play a game against anybody here who thinks there is no skill gap and you can pick my team... I will use the worst team in regs and you can pick one of the God squads and I haven't even turned on Madden since this game came out.
not exactly, in MUT 90 percent of the time the team with the bad player, with a stacked team with all the right abilties is going to beat the experienced player with a team full of stock cards that are abilityless. Madden cards are only as good as the abilities they get.
Not really... a good player will beat an average player with a lesser team and no abilities. I'm a good MUT player and I can stop any of the cheesy glitchy schemes, but I have been smoked by people with a low overall team that were just better than me. Do you play Madden? I will run a regs game against you and bench any players with abilities, and use zero abilities and you can pick any team you want with any abilities you want, and then come back here and tell me abilities are more important than skill. Unless you are a very good Madden player... I'm 100% confident I will make you rage quit regardless of team overall or abilities. The competitive MUT players will beat average players no matter how bad their team is... skill is much more important than team in Madden, just like this game.
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Some of the 95’s and 97’s are better than tye 99’s outside of the big 3.
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@go4stros25_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
Yes, they are giving out good diamonds for free, but the ones you can get for free are 92s and 97s or a flawed 99. If you hope to remain competitive online at the higher ranks their will be a new 99 card you will need for another 80k stubs.
Add to all this that these cards will expire!!! At which point they get to dangle a new season collection and a bunch of new 99s in everyone face.
This years game is absolute garbage. The gamplay is fun, and I love baseball, but this feels like a money grab.
The free 97s aren’t good enough. How about the free 99s? This is why we can’t have nice things.
That said, I don’t like this version of this game either. But that’s because it’s too easy to get good players. I KNOW - unpopular opinion.
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@mightytapir_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
@go4stros25_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
Yes, they are giving out good diamonds for free, but the ones you can get for free are 92s and 97s or a flawed 99. If you hope to remain competitive online at the higher ranks their will be a new 99 card you will need for another 80k stubs.
Add to all this that these cards will expire!!! At which point they get to dangle a new season collection and a bunch of new 99s in everyone face.
This years game is absolute garbage. The gamplay is fun, and I love baseball, but this feels like a money grab.
The free 97s aren’t good enough. How about the free 99s? This is why we can’t have nice things.
That said, I don’t like this version of this game either. But that’s because it’s too easy to get good players. I KNOW - unpopular opinion.
Being mad that good players are too easy to get is craaaaazy
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@EarvGotti_XBL said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
@mightytapir_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
@go4stros25_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
Yes, they are giving out good diamonds for free, but the ones you can get for free are 92s and 97s or a flawed 99. If you hope to remain competitive online at the higher ranks their will be a new 99 card you will need for another 80k stubs.
Add to all this that these cards will expire!!! At which point they get to dangle a new season collection and a bunch of new 99s in everyone face.
This years game is absolute garbage. The gamplay is fun, and I love baseball, but this feels like a money grab.
The free 97s aren’t good enough. How about the free 99s? This is why we can’t have nice things.
That said, I don’t like this version of this game either. But that’s because it’s too easy to get good players. I KNOW - unpopular opinion.
Being mad that good players are too easy to get is craaaaazy
Awww, look this guy's can't read
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There is SO MUCH CONTENT to grind I don’t get the hissy fit some are throwing. Build your team and spend your stubs how you want to.
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No pay to win here bud. Not sure what money can get you more of when there are plenty of cards you can get quickly
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The most ridiculous claim one can make is NO skill gap. You've backed yourself into a hole, a person can point out one thing that makes a skill gap and your whole argument falls apart because you decided to over exaggerate and say there is absolutely no skill gap, instead of leaving yourself room to prove your point, you've gone into the most easily refuted sentence you could choose.
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@mightytapir_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
@go4stros25_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
Yes, they are giving out good diamonds for free, but the ones you can get for free are 92s and 97s or a flawed 99. If you hope to remain competitive online at the higher ranks their will be a new 99 card you will need for another 80k stubs.
Add to all this that these cards will expire!!! At which point they get to dangle a new season collection and a bunch of new 99s in everyone face.
This years game is absolute garbage. The gamplay is fun, and I love baseball, but this feels like a money grab.
The free 97s aren’t good enough. How about the free 99s? This is why we can’t have nice things.
That said, I don’t like this version of this game either. But that’s because it’s too easy to get good players. I KNOW - unpopular opinion.
I'm right there with you on this one. Unpopular or not.
I struggle to understand what is actually FUN about a mode that is just 97/99s at every position...on the mound and in the bullpen?
The simple solution is a CAPPED mode. Kind of similar to BR but with cards you own and 9 innings, not 3.
98% of the cards in the mode are useless, unless you're collecting them to complete sets...especially this year with all these 99s everywhere already.
This would actually force people to make choices on how they allocate their resources while building their roster. While also allowing players to build a team that fits their strengths and weaknesses.
You're not a great hitter? Ok...use you cap resources to load up on pitching and defense, maybe some speed to manufacture runs because you don't hit many bombs. Because you're actually now on a somewhat level playing field (because of the CAP), you can actually do this.
Maybe you're just a really good hitter. Ok...find some budget cards like a Live Series Schwarber to keep your cap low, so you can load up at another position with a 99.
There's actual STRATEGY in a mode like that. Unlike whatever you call this current mode...which is basically just acquiring 26 99's to try to keep up with everyone else.
As much strategy as there is in the game of BASEBALL, both on and off the field...we really see NONE of that in this game.
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@PScrabro_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
@SotaNice-_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
@PScrabro_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
@aaronjw76_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
@PScrabro_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
@go4stros25_PSN said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
@IrishFist412_XBL said in This is the most pay to win the show has ever been:
If the better player has a team of 97’s - He will beat the guy with 99’s. This isn’t Madden.
Please. This game has removed any and all skill gap. That's why all you casuals are in full shill mode.
He's blowing smoke anyways... I will play Madden against anybody here that thinks a 99 team is an easy win over an inferior team. You go into MUT H2H with a 99 team and play a better player with a 95 team... you will lose. Seriously anybody wants to talk how Madden is no skill, prove it... let's play... I will let you pick my team.
Madden skill gap is knowledge. Mlb skill gap is actual stick skills.
Both games, a superior player with a lesser team will beat an inferior player with a much better team but a 99 vs 95 isn't that big of a differential. You get a 90 over team, still winning? I say no. Only a few guys can do that and they are usually comp guys.
If you think there is no stick skills in Madden... you don't play Madden. I use the Dolphins 81 ovr. when I play regs and mostly matchup against teams like the Chiefs, Bills, and Eagles which are all 90+ and still have a winning record every year completely outmatched in team overall. As far as MUT... it's the same thing, an inexperienced player with a 99 ovr. team is gonna get smoked every time against good players no matter how bad their team is. If our skills are equal... then overall will be an advantage just like this game. It's funny how people are always trashing Madden skills and all that here... but anybody who plays both games regularly will vouch that Madden takes just as much skill as this game team stacked or not. I'm totally willing to play a game against anybody here who thinks there is no skill gap and you can pick my team... I will use the worst team in regs and you can pick one of the God squads and I haven't even turned on Madden since this game came out.
not exactly, in MUT 90 percent of the time the team with the bad player, with a stacked team with all the right abilties is going to beat the experienced player with a team full of stock cards that are abilityless. Madden cards are only as good as the abilities they get.
Not really... a good player will beat an average player with a lesser team and no abilities. I'm a good MUT player and I can stop any of the cheesy glitchy schemes, but I have been smoked by people with a low overall team that were just better than me. Do you play Madden? I will run a regs game against you and bench any players with abilities, and use zero abilities and you can pick any team you want with any abilities you want, and then come back here and tell me abilities are more important than skill. Unless you are a very good Madden player... I'm 100% confident I will make you rage quit regardless of team overall or abilities. The competitive MUT players will beat average players no matter how bad their team is... skill is much more important than team in Madden, just like this game.
regs is horrible, competitve mut requires a ton of skill, the amount of changes and pre snap audibles and hot routes is crazy, but this years madden, and i play in some CFM leagues, i cant stand it, players are useless without abilities, and mut with madden content this year it is crazy to keep your team up to date, madden is an ability based game, so many pros have even said abilities over stats. I sold my mut team at the end because every game is just gun tight or tight flex, i still watch a little bit of mayz from here or there and I watched dubby give up 80 points in a cfm to a team stacked with abilities and dubby's probably one of the better madden players in the community.
