Glad this is my last year
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@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
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Don't bother arguing with an idiot. Probably a flat earther too.
I'm going to enjoy this year's world series victory. Toughest series was against Seattle (no offense Philly).
2017 can live rent free in his head. Plenty of space there.
I never mentioned them cheating this year. Glad they won it since I don't like the phillies. But 2017 is different. Numbers don't lie. Neither did the investigation, since the players had immunity.
Numbers don't lie. Outside of Marwin, there was no improvement. It's been proven numerous times by numerous outlets that the numbers didn't improve their performance.
And there's been ZERO proof about buzzers. That's a Jomboy conspiracy theory. Altuve and Buzzers is Epstein and suicide.
Here is the bottom line, An ex player came out and said the Astros cheated in 2017, The players admitted to cheating. The Commissioner gave players immunity which should have never happened, All because he wanted it to go away fast. The players involved should have been banned from baseball just like the 1919 black sox and pete rose IMO.
And they didn’t, if they were banned 80-90% of the league would’ve been banned.
80 to 90 of the league did not get caught cheating in the WS did they or at all,.
Ah so it’s not cheating if you don’t get caught. Got it.
Why can't you just admit the Astros cheated and got caught. What is so hard about accepting that fact.
Nobody and I mean nobody didn’t say they were dude lol. Only thing I questioned was actual video evidence of it in the postseason and the fact that other teams were doing the same thing of not close to what they were doing. I literally never denied they did it you goof.
You keep defending it like you don't you keep talking as if they did not. If you watch that last game that Darvish started in Hou they knew exactly what was being thrown, that is evidence enough so go watch those playoff games.
So tell me how did they do it against darvish I’ll wait. Was it the trash can? When they stopped after Farquar found out back in late September. Was it the buzzers? You know the buzzers that never existed? Please tell me how they cheated darvish
Like I said go watch the game.
Ah there it is because you actually don’t know because there’s no actual evidence or logical thing that works besides they played better. Let me guess the throwing error that scored Josh reddick that game was cheating too right? They won the 2017 World Series legitimately man. Let it go.
They did not get there Legitmately now did they. I do try and let it go but Astros fans got to keep defending it like it did not happened after the players said they cheated.
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Tale as old as time.
People still harping about the 2017 Astros and their cheating
and the Astro fans who just scream BuT EvErYoNe eLsE
Both things are really old
To be fair the everyone else argument keeps getting better with all these current and former players speaking out on it. Just weird no one wants to acknowledge it.
Let me ask you something, lets say a group was bullying someone and you joined in, somehow your mother found out and punished you, would you tell her "Well everyone else was doing it to!", do you think she would have accepted that as a good answer?
That’s quite literally a way different context than this one. Maybe if the entire classroom was cheating on the test would you do it too?
Ok fine we can use your test example. Lets say you were caught and your mom punished you for that, would she accept "Well everyone else was doing it to" as an answer?
If everyone else was doing it and you were the only student singled out wouldn't you think it’s absolutely bs?
Probably, but that's not my point. And it's not even a relevant example you put because you have no idea if ALL the students were doing it besides you. I'm pointing out why "Everyone else is doing it" is a poor defense.
You can absolutely think the Astros getting pointed out is BS, I can easily understand that point of view, but using it as a defense doesn't work.
I’m not defending their cheating, it’s on camera in the regular season to see. But to say it was unfair is bs because they learned it from another team by a former player in Beltran.
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Don't bother arguing with an idiot. Probably a flat earther too.
I'm going to enjoy this year's world series victory. Toughest series was against Seattle (no offense Philly).
2017 can live rent free in his head. Plenty of space there.
I never mentioned them cheating this year. Glad they won it since I don't like the phillies. But 2017 is different. Numbers don't lie. Neither did the investigation, since the players had immunity.
Numbers don't lie. Outside of Marwin, there was no improvement. It's been proven numerous times by numerous outlets that the numbers didn't improve their performance.
And there's been ZERO proof about buzzers. That's a Jomboy conspiracy theory. Altuve and Buzzers is Epstein and suicide.
Here is the bottom line, An ex player came out and said the Astros cheated in 2017, The players admitted to cheating. The Commissioner gave players immunity which should have never happened, All because he wanted it to go away fast. The players involved should have been banned from baseball just like the 1919 black sox and pete rose IMO.
And they didn’t, if they were banned 80-90% of the league would’ve been banned.
80 to 90 of the league did not get caught cheating in the WS did they or at all,.
Ah so it’s not cheating if you don’t get caught. Got it.
Why can't you just admit the Astros cheated and got caught. What is so hard about accepting that fact.
Nobody and I mean nobody didn’t say they were dude lol. Only thing I questioned was actual video evidence of it in the postseason and the fact that other teams were doing the same thing of not close to what they were doing. I literally never denied they did it you goof.
You keep defending it like you don't you keep talking as if they did not. If you watch that last game that Darvish started in Hou they knew exactly what was being thrown, that is evidence enough so go watch those playoff games.
So tell me how did they do it against darvish I’ll wait. Was it the trash can? When they stopped after Farquar found out back in late September. Was it the buzzers? You know the buzzers that never existed? Please tell me how they cheated darvish
Like I said go watch the game.
Ah there it is because you actually don’t know because there’s no actual evidence or logical thing that works besides they played better. Let me guess the throwing error that scored Josh reddick that game was cheating too right? They won the 2017 World Series legitimately man. Let it go.
They did not get there Legitmately now did they. I do try and let it go but Astros fans got to keep defending it like it did not happened after the players said they cheated.
I never doubted the regular season but when there’s no actual postseason clips or evidence or anything after 5 years to say “look at this” it’s just not real. Regular season sure, there’s actual video evidence. Never said it didn’t happen, only questioned other teams and postseason evidence.
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Tale as old as time.
People still harping about the 2017 Astros and their cheating
and the Astro fans who just scream BuT EvErYoNe eLsE
Both things are really old
To be fair the everyone else argument keeps getting better with all these current and former players speaking out on it. Just weird no one wants to acknowledge it.
Let me ask you something, lets say a group was bullying someone and you joined in, somehow your mother found out and punished you, would you tell her "Well everyone else was doing it to!", do you think she would have accepted that as a good answer?
That’s quite literally a way different context than this one. Maybe if the entire classroom was cheating on the test would you do it too?
Ok fine we can use your test example. Lets say you were caught and your mom punished you for that, would she accept "Well everyone else was doing it to" as an answer?
If everyone else was doing it and you were the only student singled out wouldn't you think it’s absolutely bs?
Probably, but that's not my point. And it's not even a relevant example you put because you have no idea if ALL the students were doing it besides you. I'm pointing out why "Everyone else is doing it" is a poor defense.
You can absolutely think the Astros getting pointed out is BS, I can easily understand that point of view, but using it as a defense doesn't work.
I’m not defending their cheating, it’s on camera in the regular season to see. But to say it was unfair is bs because they learned it from another team by a former player in Beltran.
It does not matter who or where they learned it, they are grown [censored] men that know better or maybe they are children that did not know better. The fact is they did it and got caught then got off. Stop defending it and making excuses
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@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
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@eatyum_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@eatyum_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
Tale as old as time.
People still harping about the 2017 Astros and their cheating
and the Astro fans who just scream BuT EvErYoNe eLsE
Both things are really old
To be fair the everyone else argument keeps getting better with all these current and former players speaking out on it. Just weird no one wants to acknowledge it.
Let me ask you something, lets say a group was bullying someone and you joined in, somehow your mother found out and punished you, would you tell her "Well everyone else was doing it to!", do you think she would have accepted that as a good answer?
That’s quite literally a way different context than this one. Maybe if the entire classroom was cheating on the test would you do it too?
Ok fine we can use your test example. Lets say you were caught and your mom punished you for that, would she accept "Well everyone else was doing it to" as an answer?
If everyone else was doing it and you were the only student singled out wouldn't you think it’s absolutely bs?
Probably, but that's not my point. And it's not even a relevant example you put because you have no idea if ALL the students were doing it besides you. I'm pointing out why "Everyone else is doing it" is a poor defense.
You can absolutely think the Astros getting pointed out is BS, I can easily understand that point of view, but using it as a defense doesn't work.
I’m not defending their cheating, it’s on camera in the regular season to see. But to say it was unfair is bs because they learned it from another team by a former player in Beltran.
Sure, but wouldn't you argue the players brought it on themselves? Obviously Astros fans didn't bring it on themselves and it's unfair to just go "hur dur your team cheated", But the players cheating that year, even if not in the postseason, only have themselves to blame for being viewed as a tainted playoff run
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@eatyum_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
Tale as old as time.
People still harping about the 2017 Astros and their cheating
and the Astro fans who just scream BuT EvErYoNe eLsE
Both things are really old
To be fair the everyone else argument keeps getting better with all these current and former players speaking out on it. Just weird no one wants to acknowledge it.
Let me ask you something, lets say a group was bullying someone and you joined in, somehow your mother found out and punished you, would you tell her "Well everyone else was doing it to!", do you think she would have accepted that as a good answer?
That’s quite literally a way different context than this one. Maybe if the entire classroom was cheating on the test would you do it too?
Ok fine we can use your test example. Lets say you were caught and your mom punished you for that, would she accept "Well everyone else was doing it to" as an answer?
If everyone else was doing it and you were the only student singled out wouldn't you think it’s absolutely bs?
Probably, but that's not my point. And it's not even a relevant example you put because you have no idea if ALL the students were doing it besides you. I'm pointing out why "Everyone else is doing it" is a poor defense.
You can absolutely think the Astros getting pointed out is BS, I can easily understand that point of view, but using it as a defense doesn't work.
I’m not defending their cheating, it’s on camera in the regular season to see. But to say it was unfair is bs because they learned it from another team by a former player in Beltran.
It does not matter who or where they learned it, they are grown [censored] men that know better or maybe they are children that did not know better. The fact is they did it and got caught then got off. Stop defending it and making excuses
Only person making excuses was you justifying your dodgers losing the greatest World Series ever played. Anyways I’m done talking to your sore loser self. 2017 and 2022 world champs baby!
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@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
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Don't bother arguing with an idiot. Probably a flat earther too.
I'm going to enjoy this year's world series victory. Toughest series was against Seattle (no offense Philly).
2017 can live rent free in his head. Plenty of space there.
I never mentioned them cheating this year. Glad they won it since I don't like the phillies. But 2017 is different. Numbers don't lie. Neither did the investigation, since the players had immunity.
Numbers don't lie. Outside of Marwin, there was no improvement. It's been proven numerous times by numerous outlets that the numbers didn't improve their performance.
And there's been ZERO proof about buzzers. That's a Jomboy conspiracy theory. Altuve and Buzzers is Epstein and suicide.
Here is the bottom line, An ex player came out and said the Astros cheated in 2017, The players admitted to cheating. The Commissioner gave players immunity which should have never happened, All because he wanted it to go away fast. The players involved should have been banned from baseball just like the 1919 black sox and pete rose IMO.
And they didn’t, if they were banned 80-90% of the league would’ve been banned.
80 to 90 of the league did not get caught cheating in the WS did they or at all,.
Ah so it’s not cheating if you don’t get caught. Got it.
Why can't you just admit the Astros cheated and got caught. What is so hard about accepting that fact.
Nobody and I mean nobody didn’t say they were dude lol. Only thing I questioned was actual video evidence of it in the postseason and the fact that other teams were doing the same thing of not close to what they were doing. I literally never denied they did it you goof.
You keep defending it like you don't you keep talking as if they did not. If you watch that last game that Darvish started in Hou they knew exactly what was being thrown, that is evidence enough so go watch those playoff games.
So tell me how did they do it against darvish I’ll wait. Was it the trash can? When they stopped after Farquar found out back in late September. Was it the buzzers? You know the buzzers that never existed? Please tell me how they cheated darvish
Like I said go watch the game.
Ah there it is because you actually don’t know because there’s no actual evidence or logical thing that works besides they played better. Let me guess the throwing error that scored Josh reddick that game was cheating too right? They won the 2017 World Series legitimately man. Let it go.
They did not get there Legitmately now did they. I do try and let it go but Astros fans got to keep defending it like it did not happened after the players said they cheated.
I never doubted the regular season but when there’s no actual postseason clips or evidence or anything after 5 years to say “look at this” it’s just not real. Regular season sure, there’s actual video evidence. Never said it didn’t happen, only questioned other teams and postseason evidence.
Fact cheated in regular season because of video evidence help them make the playoffs, which should have never happened. They would have never won the 2017 WS. Thank you.
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Don't bother arguing with an idiot. Probably a flat earther too.
I'm going to enjoy this year's world series victory. Toughest series was against Seattle (no offense Philly).
2017 can live rent free in his head. Plenty of space there.
I never mentioned them cheating this year. Glad they won it since I don't like the phillies. But 2017 is different. Numbers don't lie. Neither did the investigation, since the players had immunity.
Numbers don't lie. Outside of Marwin, there was no improvement. It's been proven numerous times by numerous outlets that the numbers didn't improve their performance.
And there's been ZERO proof about buzzers. That's a Jomboy conspiracy theory. Altuve and Buzzers is Epstein and suicide.
Here is the bottom line, An ex player came out and said the Astros cheated in 2017, The players admitted to cheating. The Commissioner gave players immunity which should have never happened, All because he wanted it to go away fast. The players involved should have been banned from baseball just like the 1919 black sox and pete rose IMO.
And they didn’t, if they were banned 80-90% of the league would’ve been banned.
80 to 90 of the league did not get caught cheating in the WS did they or at all,.
Ah so it’s not cheating if you don’t get caught. Got it.
Why can't you just admit the Astros cheated and got caught. What is so hard about accepting that fact.
Nobody and I mean nobody didn’t say they were dude lol. Only thing I questioned was actual video evidence of it in the postseason and the fact that other teams were doing the same thing of not close to what they were doing. I literally never denied they did it you goof.
You keep defending it like you don't you keep talking as if they did not. If you watch that last game that Darvish started in Hou they knew exactly what was being thrown, that is evidence enough so go watch those playoff games.
So tell me how did they do it against darvish I’ll wait. Was it the trash can? When they stopped after Farquar found out back in late September. Was it the buzzers? You know the buzzers that never existed? Please tell me how they cheated darvish
Like I said go watch the game.
Ah there it is because you actually don’t know because there’s no actual evidence or logical thing that works besides they played better. Let me guess the throwing error that scored Josh reddick that game was cheating too right? They won the 2017 World Series legitimately man. Let it go.
They did not get there Legitmately now did they. I do try and let it go but Astros fans got to keep defending it like it did not happened after the players said they cheated.
I never doubted the regular season but when there’s no actual postseason clips or evidence or anything after 5 years to say “look at this” it’s just not real. Regular season sure, there’s actual video evidence. Never said it didn’t happen, only questioned other teams and postseason evidence.
Fact cheated in regular season because of video evidence help them make the playoffs, which should have never happened. They would have never won the 2017 WS. Thank you.
The Astros were a powerhouse team, to say they wouldn't make the playoffs is laughable
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Tale as old as time.
People still harping about the 2017 Astros and their cheating
and the Astro fans who just scream BuT EvErYoNe eLsE
Both things are really old
To be fair the everyone else argument keeps getting better with all these current and former players speaking out on it. Just weird no one wants to acknowledge it.
Let me ask you something, lets say a group was bullying someone and you joined in, somehow your mother found out and punished you, would you tell her "Well everyone else was doing it to!", do you think she would have accepted that as a good answer?
That’s quite literally a way different context than this one. Maybe if the entire classroom was cheating on the test would you do it too?
Ok fine we can use your test example. Lets say you were caught and your mom punished you for that, would she accept "Well everyone else was doing it to" as an answer?
If everyone else was doing it and you were the only student singled out wouldn't you think it’s absolutely bs?
Probably, but that's not my point. And it's not even a relevant example you put because you have no idea if ALL the students were doing it besides you. I'm pointing out why "Everyone else is doing it" is a poor defense.
You can absolutely think the Astros getting pointed out is BS, I can easily understand that point of view, but using it as a defense doesn't work.
I’m not defending their cheating, it’s on camera in the regular season to see. But to say it was unfair is bs because they learned it from another team by a former player in Beltran.
It does not matter who or where they learned it, they are grown [censored] men that know better or maybe they are children that did not know better. The fact is they did it and got caught then got off. Stop defending it and making excuses
Only person making excuses was you justifying your dodgers losing the greatest World Series ever played. Anyways I’m done talking to your sore loser self. 2017 and 2022 world champs baby!
I am not justifying anything didnt you read I said that I would never say the dodgers would have won but we will never cause the Astros Cheated.
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Don't bother arguing with an idiot. Probably a flat earther too.
I'm going to enjoy this year's world series victory. Toughest series was against Seattle (no offense Philly).
2017 can live rent free in his head. Plenty of space there.
I never mentioned them cheating this year. Glad they won it since I don't like the phillies. But 2017 is different. Numbers don't lie. Neither did the investigation, since the players had immunity.
Numbers don't lie. Outside of Marwin, there was no improvement. It's been proven numerous times by numerous outlets that the numbers didn't improve their performance.
And there's been ZERO proof about buzzers. That's a Jomboy conspiracy theory. Altuve and Buzzers is Epstein and suicide.
Here is the bottom line, An ex player came out and said the Astros cheated in 2017, The players admitted to cheating. The Commissioner gave players immunity which should have never happened, All because he wanted it to go away fast. The players involved should have been banned from baseball just like the 1919 black sox and pete rose IMO.
And they didn’t, if they were banned 80-90% of the league would’ve been banned.
80 to 90 of the league did not get caught cheating in the WS did they or at all,.
Ah so it’s not cheating if you don’t get caught. Got it.
Why can't you just admit the Astros cheated and got caught. What is so hard about accepting that fact.
Nobody and I mean nobody didn’t say they were dude lol. Only thing I questioned was actual video evidence of it in the postseason and the fact that other teams were doing the same thing of not close to what they were doing. I literally never denied they did it you goof.
You keep defending it like you don't you keep talking as if they did not. If you watch that last game that Darvish started in Hou they knew exactly what was being thrown, that is evidence enough so go watch those playoff games.
So tell me how did they do it against darvish I’ll wait. Was it the trash can? When they stopped after Farquar found out back in late September. Was it the buzzers? You know the buzzers that never existed? Please tell me how they cheated darvish
Like I said go watch the game.
Ah there it is because you actually don’t know because there’s no actual evidence or logical thing that works besides they played better. Let me guess the throwing error that scored Josh reddick that game was cheating too right? They won the 2017 World Series legitimately man. Let it go.
They did not get there Legitmately now did they. I do try and let it go but Astros fans got to keep defending it like it did not happened after the players said they cheated.
I never doubted the regular season but when there’s no actual postseason clips or evidence or anything after 5 years to say “look at this” it’s just not real. Regular season sure, there’s actual video evidence. Never said it didn’t happen, only questioned other teams and postseason evidence.
Fact cheated in regular season because of video evidence help them make the playoffs, which should have never happened. They would have never won the 2017 WS. Thank you.
The Astros were a powerhouse team, to say they wouldn't make the playoffs is laughable
If they were such a powerhouse team why would they need to Cheat?
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@eatyum_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@eatyum_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@eatyum_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@eatyum_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
Tale as old as time.
People still harping about the 2017 Astros and their cheating
and the Astro fans who just scream BuT EvErYoNe eLsE
Both things are really old
To be fair the everyone else argument keeps getting better with all these current and former players speaking out on it. Just weird no one wants to acknowledge it.
Let me ask you something, lets say a group was bullying someone and you joined in, somehow your mother found out and punished you, would you tell her "Well everyone else was doing it to!", do you think she would have accepted that as a good answer?
That’s quite literally a way different context than this one. Maybe if the entire classroom was cheating on the test would you do it too?
Ok fine we can use your test example. Lets say you were caught and your mom punished you for that, would she accept "Well everyone else was doing it to" as an answer?
If everyone else was doing it and you were the only student singled out wouldn't you think it’s absolutely bs?
Probably, but that's not my point. And it's not even a relevant example you put because you have no idea if ALL the students were doing it besides you. I'm pointing out why "Everyone else is doing it" is a poor defense.
You can absolutely think the Astros getting pointed out is BS, I can easily understand that point of view, but using it as a defense doesn't work.
I’m not defending their cheating, it’s on camera in the regular season to see. But to say it was unfair is bs because they learned it from another team by a former player in Beltran.
Sure, but wouldn't you argue the players brought it on themselves? Obviously Astros fans didn't bring it on themselves and it's unfair to just go "hur dur your team cheated", But the players cheating that year, even if not in the postseason, only have themselves to blame for being viewed as a tainted playoff run
But how else do you go about it then? If you had knowledge by your teammates that teams were doing it you wouldn’t even the playing field to not be at a disadvantage? Especially when a HOF veteran like beltran is saying you have to get up to date with it to compete? If I’m in their position I want to know everything because it seems like most players were hushmouth about it, like something that should be kept under wraps.
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@dbarmonstar_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@eatyum_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@dbarmonstar_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@dbarmonstar_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@dbarmonstar_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@dbarmonstar_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@dbarmonstar_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@dbarmonstar_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@dbarmonstar_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@hoboadam_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@brendan1010_MLBTS said in Glad this is my last year:
@hoboadam_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
Don't bother arguing with an idiot. Probably a flat earther too.
I'm going to enjoy this year's world series victory. Toughest series was against Seattle (no offense Philly).
2017 can live rent free in his head. Plenty of space there.
I never mentioned them cheating this year. Glad they won it since I don't like the phillies. But 2017 is different. Numbers don't lie. Neither did the investigation, since the players had immunity.
Numbers don't lie. Outside of Marwin, there was no improvement. It's been proven numerous times by numerous outlets that the numbers didn't improve their performance.
And there's been ZERO proof about buzzers. That's a Jomboy conspiracy theory. Altuve and Buzzers is Epstein and suicide.
Here is the bottom line, An ex player came out and said the Astros cheated in 2017, The players admitted to cheating. The Commissioner gave players immunity which should have never happened, All because he wanted it to go away fast. The players involved should have been banned from baseball just like the 1919 black sox and pete rose IMO.
And they didn’t, if they were banned 80-90% of the league would’ve been banned.
80 to 90 of the league did not get caught cheating in the WS did they or at all,.
Ah so it’s not cheating if you don’t get caught. Got it.
Why can't you just admit the Astros cheated and got caught. What is so hard about accepting that fact.
Nobody and I mean nobody didn’t say they were dude lol. Only thing I questioned was actual video evidence of it in the postseason and the fact that other teams were doing the same thing of not close to what they were doing. I literally never denied they did it you goof.
You keep defending it like you don't you keep talking as if they did not. If you watch that last game that Darvish started in Hou they knew exactly what was being thrown, that is evidence enough so go watch those playoff games.
So tell me how did they do it against darvish I’ll wait. Was it the trash can? When they stopped after Farquar found out back in late September. Was it the buzzers? You know the buzzers that never existed? Please tell me how they cheated darvish
Like I said go watch the game.
Ah there it is because you actually don’t know because there’s no actual evidence or logical thing that works besides they played better. Let me guess the throwing error that scored Josh reddick that game was cheating too right? They won the 2017 World Series legitimately man. Let it go.
They did not get there Legitmately now did they. I do try and let it go but Astros fans got to keep defending it like it did not happened after the players said they cheated.
I never doubted the regular season but when there’s no actual postseason clips or evidence or anything after 5 years to say “look at this” it’s just not real. Regular season sure, there’s actual video evidence. Never said it didn’t happen, only questioned other teams and postseason evidence.
Fact cheated in regular season because of video evidence help them make the playoffs, which should have never happened. They would have never won the 2017 WS. Thank you.
The Astros were a powerhouse team, to say they wouldn't make the playoffs is laughable
If they were such a powerhouse team why would they need to Cheat?
Because people make dumb decisions all the time, their next closest rival in the division was 21 games back and under .500. The Astros were winning the west regardless
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@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@dbarmonstar_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@eatyum_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
Tale as old as time.
People still harping about the 2017 Astros and their cheating
and the Astro fans who just scream BuT EvErYoNe eLsE
Both things are really old
To be fair the everyone else argument keeps getting better with all these current and former players speaking out on it. Just weird no one wants to acknowledge it.
Players can speak out all they want but it does not change the fact the Astros got caught cheating in 2017 and it tainted that WS.
It’s a legit ring since they most likely played against teams who did similar. If it was just them sure it’s tainted, but it wasn’t.
Keep trying to justify there cheating to make it ok, which no one is buying but Astro fans
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@dbarmonstar_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@dbarmonstar_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@eatyum_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@eatyum_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@eatyum_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@eatyum_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
Tale as old as time.
People still harping about the 2017 Astros and their cheating
and the Astro fans who just scream BuT EvErYoNe eLsE
Both things are really old
To be fair the everyone else argument keeps getting better with all these current and former players speaking out on it. Just weird no one wants to acknowledge it.
Let me ask you something, lets say a group was bullying someone and you joined in, somehow your mother found out and punished you, would you tell her "Well everyone else was doing it to!", do you think she would have accepted that as a good answer?
That’s quite literally a way different context than this one. Maybe if the entire classroom was cheating on the test would you do it too?
Ok fine we can use your test example. Lets say you were caught and your mom punished you for that, would she accept "Well everyone else was doing it to" as an answer?
If everyone else was doing it and you were the only student singled out wouldn't you think it’s absolutely bs?
Probably, but that's not my point. And it's not even a relevant example you put because you have no idea if ALL the students were doing it besides you. I'm pointing out why "Everyone else is doing it" is a poor defense.
You can absolutely think the Astros getting pointed out is BS, I can easily understand that point of view, but using it as a defense doesn't work.
I’m not defending their cheating, it’s on camera in the regular season to see. But to say it was unfair is bs because they learned it from another team by a former player in Beltran.
It does not matter who or where they learned it, they are grown [censored] men that know better or maybe they are children that did not know better. The fact is they did it and got caught then got off. Stop defending it and making excuses
Only person making excuses was you justifying your dodgers losing the greatest World Series ever played. Anyways I’m done talking to your sore loser self. 2017 and 2022 world champs baby!
I am not justifying anything didnt you read I said that I would never say the dodgers would have won but we will never cause the Astros Cheated.
Your team lost the best World Series ever. And probably cheated along the way too! Go Astros your 2017 AND 2022 champs
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@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@eatyum_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@eatyum_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@eatyum_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@eatyum_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@eatyum_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
Tale as old as time.
People still harping about the 2017 Astros and their cheating
and the Astro fans who just scream BuT EvErYoNe eLsE
Both things are really old
To be fair the everyone else argument keeps getting better with all these current and former players speaking out on it. Just weird no one wants to acknowledge it.
Let me ask you something, lets say a group was bullying someone and you joined in, somehow your mother found out and punished you, would you tell her "Well everyone else was doing it to!", do you think she would have accepted that as a good answer?
That’s quite literally a way different context than this one. Maybe if the entire classroom was cheating on the test would you do it too?
Ok fine we can use your test example. Lets say you were caught and your mom punished you for that, would she accept "Well everyone else was doing it to" as an answer?
If everyone else was doing it and you were the only student singled out wouldn't you think it’s absolutely bs?
Probably, but that's not my point. And it's not even a relevant example you put because you have no idea if ALL the students were doing it besides you. I'm pointing out why "Everyone else is doing it" is a poor defense.
You can absolutely think the Astros getting pointed out is BS, I can easily understand that point of view, but using it as a defense doesn't work.
I’m not defending their cheating, it’s on camera in the regular season to see. But to say it was unfair is bs because they learned it from another team by a former player in Beltran.
Sure, but wouldn't you argue the players brought it on themselves? Obviously Astros fans didn't bring it on themselves and it's unfair to just go "hur dur your team cheated", But the players cheating that year, even if not in the postseason, only have themselves to blame for being viewed as a tainted playoff run
But how else do you go about it then? If you had knowledge by your teammates that teams were doing it you wouldn’t even the playing field to not be at a disadvantage? Especially when a HOF veteran like beltran is saying you have to get up to date with it to compete? If I’m in their position I want to know everything because it seems like most players were hushmouth about it, like something that should be kept under wraps.
I suppose that depends on your moral compass, now I'm not saying cheating made every single Astro who did it a evil person/vilain, (except maybe Correa, I never liked him lol), but I personally would not risk cheating because you can see the consequence and outcome of it in public perception.
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@dbarmonstar_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@dbarmonstar_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@eatyum_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
Tale as old as time.
People still harping about the 2017 Astros and their cheating
and the Astro fans who just scream BuT EvErYoNe eLsE
Both things are really old
To be fair the everyone else argument keeps getting better with all these current and former players speaking out on it. Just weird no one wants to acknowledge it.
Players can speak out all they want but it does not change the fact the Astros got caught cheating in 2017 and it tainted that WS.
It’s a legit ring since they most likely played against teams who did similar. If it was just them sure it’s tainted, but it wasn’t.
Keep trying to justify there cheating to make it ok, which no one is buying but Astro fans
You’re so pressed your team lost it’s funny.
Lost
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@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@dbarmonstar_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@dbarmonstar_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@eatyum_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@eatyum_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@eatyum_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@eatyum_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
Tale as old as time.
People still harping about the 2017 Astros and their cheating
and the Astro fans who just scream BuT EvErYoNe eLsE
Both things are really old
To be fair the everyone else argument keeps getting better with all these current and former players speaking out on it. Just weird no one wants to acknowledge it.
Let me ask you something, lets say a group was bullying someone and you joined in, somehow your mother found out and punished you, would you tell her "Well everyone else was doing it to!", do you think she would have accepted that as a good answer?
That’s quite literally a way different context than this one. Maybe if the entire classroom was cheating on the test would you do it too?
Ok fine we can use your test example. Lets say you were caught and your mom punished you for that, would she accept "Well everyone else was doing it to" as an answer?
If everyone else was doing it and you were the only student singled out wouldn't you think it’s absolutely bs?
Probably, but that's not my point. And it's not even a relevant example you put because you have no idea if ALL the students were doing it besides you. I'm pointing out why "Everyone else is doing it" is a poor defense.
You can absolutely think the Astros getting pointed out is BS, I can easily understand that point of view, but using it as a defense doesn't work.
I’m not defending their cheating, it’s on camera in the regular season to see. But to say it was unfair is bs because they learned it from another team by a former player in Beltran.
It does not matter who or where they learned it, they are grown [censored] men that know better or maybe they are children that did not know better. The fact is they did it and got caught then got off. Stop defending it and making excuses
Only person making excuses was you justifying your dodgers losing the greatest World Series ever played. Anyways I’m done talking to your sore loser self. 2017 and 2022 world champs baby!
I am not justifying anything didnt you read I said that I would never say the dodgers would have won but we will never cause the Astros Cheated.
Your team lost the best World Series ever. And probably cheated along the way too! Go Astros your 2017 AND 2022 champs
Probably is not fact, Fact is the Astros cheated and tainted the 2017 WS.
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@eatyum_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@eatyum_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@eatyum_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@eatyum_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@eatyum_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@eatyum_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
Tale as old as time.
People still harping about the 2017 Astros and their cheating
and the Astro fans who just scream BuT EvErYoNe eLsE
Both things are really old
To be fair the everyone else argument keeps getting better with all these current and former players speaking out on it. Just weird no one wants to acknowledge it.
Let me ask you something, lets say a group was bullying someone and you joined in, somehow your mother found out and punished you, would you tell her "Well everyone else was doing it to!", do you think she would have accepted that as a good answer?
That’s quite literally a way different context than this one. Maybe if the entire classroom was cheating on the test would you do it too?
Ok fine we can use your test example. Lets say you were caught and your mom punished you for that, would she accept "Well everyone else was doing it to" as an answer?
If everyone else was doing it and you were the only student singled out wouldn't you think it’s absolutely bs?
Probably, but that's not my point. And it's not even a relevant example you put because you have no idea if ALL the students were doing it besides you. I'm pointing out why "Everyone else is doing it" is a poor defense.
You can absolutely think the Astros getting pointed out is BS, I can easily understand that point of view, but using it as a defense doesn't work.
I’m not defending their cheating, it’s on camera in the regular season to see. But to say it was unfair is bs because they learned it from another team by a former player in Beltran.
Sure, but wouldn't you argue the players brought it on themselves? Obviously Astros fans didn't bring it on themselves and it's unfair to just go "hur dur your team cheated", But the players cheating that year, even if not in the postseason, only have themselves to blame for being viewed as a tainted playoff run
But how else do you go about it then? If you had knowledge by your teammates that teams were doing it you wouldn’t even the playing field to not be at a disadvantage? Especially when a HOF veteran like beltran is saying you have to get up to date with it to compete? If I’m in their position I want to know everything because it seems like most players were hushmouth about it, like something that should be kept under wraps.
I suppose that depends on your moral compass, now I'm not saying cheating made every single Astro who did it a evil person/vilain, (except maybe Correa, I never liked him lol), but I personally would not risk cheating because you can see the consequence and outcome of it in public perception.
Eatyum he has no moral compass. He said it isn’t cheating if you don’t get caught lol. Like dude is delusional.
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@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@dbarmonstar_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@dbarmonstar_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@eatyum_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
Tale as old as time.
People still harping about the 2017 Astros and their cheating
and the Astro fans who just scream BuT EvErYoNe eLsE
Both things are really old
To be fair the everyone else argument keeps getting better with all these current and former players speaking out on it. Just weird no one wants to acknowledge it.
Players can speak out all they want but it does not change the fact the Astros got caught cheating in 2017 and it tainted that WS.
It’s a legit ring since they most likely played against teams who did similar. If it was just them sure it’s tainted, but it wasn’t.
Keep trying to justify there cheating to make it ok, which no one is buying but Astro fans
You’re so pressed your team lost it’s funny.
Lost
AgainAgain it is not about the dodgers losing, It is about the Astos cheating
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@dbarmonstar_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@dbarmonstar_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@dbarmonstar_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
@eatyum_PSN said in Glad this is my last year:
Tale as old as time.
People still harping about the 2017 Astros and their cheating
and the Astro fans who just scream BuT EvErYoNe eLsE
Both things are really old
To be fair the everyone else argument keeps getting better with all these current and former players speaking out on it. Just weird no one wants to acknowledge it.
Players can speak out all they want but it does not change the fact the Astros got caught cheating in 2017 and it tainted that WS.
It’s a legit ring since they most likely played against teams who did similar. If it was just them sure it’s tainted, but it wasn’t.
Keep trying to justify there cheating to make it ok, which no one is buying but Astro fans
You’re so pressed your team lost it’s funny.
Lost
AgainAgain it is not about the dodgers losing, It is about the Astos cheating
Nope your team lost get over it.
