Future Stars Hate
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@eatyum_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@NCStateHokie_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@sunburntcoyote_XBL said in Future Stars Hate:
So I’ve seen a lot of hate about how many future stars they keep adding to the game, and I understand the argument that they’re better than most current players and legends cards. I just grabbed the Corbin Carroll headliner from the free scouting report pack and he’s instantly been better than Griffey and Mantle were for me. After I unlocked Carroll I saw the video of him running around the bases like Usain Bolt. Oneil Cruz God card drops then he exit velos his way into the record books. It’s exciting seeing new guys burst onto the scene and why not give them a little juice as an intro.
Problem is that they give them major juice not just a little. They could make a card for every minor leaguer for all I care but they should not be rated higher than anyone in the HOF. FS shouldn't be higher than a 90 IMO.
So make cards no one cares to use then?
I don't care to use them. They are just filler for the game anyway to me. Part of a collection to get Brett or McCutchen.
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I don’t hate them. I also see a purpose for them to get people be aware of the stars on the rise. A lot of people just know the superstars in baseball. That being said I do think their stats are a little unreal. More than a little actually. Kinda glad they are boosted though because no one wants cards that are unusable.
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@NCStateHokie_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@sunburntcoyote_XBL said in Future Stars Hate:
So I’ve seen a lot of hate about how many future stars they keep adding to the game, and I understand the argument that they’re better than most current players and legends cards. I just grabbed the Corbin Carroll headliner from the free scouting report pack and he’s instantly been better than Griffey and Mantle were for me. After I unlocked Carroll I saw the video of him running around the bases like Usain Bolt. Oneil Cruz God card drops then he exit velos his way into the record books. It’s exciting seeing new guys burst onto the scene and why not give them a little juice as an intro.
Problem is that they give them major juice not just a little. They could make a card for every minor leaguer for all I care but they should not be rated higher than anyone in the HOF. FS shouldn't be higher than a 90 IMO.
Some of these guys are already better than Harold Baines, and he’s in the HOF. Under your rules, we have to wait 30 years for a useable Gunner Henderson card? That’s crazy talk
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@eatyum_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@NCStateHokie_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@sunburntcoyote_XBL said in Future Stars Hate:
So I’ve seen a lot of hate about how many future stars they keep adding to the game, and I understand the argument that they’re better than most current players and legends cards. I just grabbed the Corbin Carroll headliner from the free scouting report pack and he’s instantly been better than Griffey and Mantle were for me. After I unlocked Carroll I saw the video of him running around the bases like Usain Bolt. Oneil Cruz God card drops then he exit velos his way into the record books. It’s exciting seeing new guys burst onto the scene and why not give them a little juice as an intro.
Problem is that they give them major juice not just a little. They could make a card for every minor leaguer for all I care but they should not be rated higher than anyone in the HOF. FS shouldn't be higher than a 90 IMO.
So make cards no one cares to use then?
Same thing goes for all the Rookie cards, why use a bronze Halliday when you can use his 95? It's all for the collections.
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@Possum80_MLBTS said in Future Stars Hate:
@NCStateHokie_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@sunburntcoyote_XBL said in Future Stars Hate:
So I’ve seen a lot of hate about how many future stars they keep adding to the game, and I understand the argument that they’re better than most current players and legends cards. I just grabbed the Corbin Carroll headliner from the free scouting report pack and he’s instantly been better than Griffey and Mantle were for me. After I unlocked Carroll I saw the video of him running around the bases like Usain Bolt. Oneil Cruz God card drops then he exit velos his way into the record books. It’s exciting seeing new guys burst onto the scene and why not give them a little juice as an intro.
Problem is that they give them major juice not just a little. They could make a card for every minor leaguer for all I care but they should not be rated higher than anyone in the HOF. FS shouldn't be higher than a 90 IMO.
Some of these guys are already better than Harold Baines, and he’s in the HOF. Under your rules, we have to wait 30 years for a useable Gunner Henderson card? That’s crazy talk
That's not really a good example. We all know Baines does not deserve to be in the HOF. The writers got it right not voting him in. Played 22 years mostly at DH and still didn't get 3K hits or 500 HR's. His longevity got him in and nothing else. So yeah there are guys better than him playing now. They are even a position player too
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Here is what I have learned over the last few years. It is very unlikely you will convince Future Stars haters to like the card or FS lovers to start hating the cards.
I think both side look at these cards from a completely different viewpoint.
I am a Cardinals fan but you won't convince me that Masyn Winn deserves a higher card than Ozzie smith. Or that Jordan Walker should have better hitting attributes than the current best cards for Pujols and Musial.
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@NCStateHokie_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@sunburntcoyote_XBL said in Future Stars Hate:
So I’ve seen a lot of hate about how many future stars they keep adding to the game, and I understand the argument that they’re better than most current players and legends cards. I just grabbed the Corbin Carroll headliner from the free scouting report pack and he’s instantly been better than Griffey and Mantle were for me. After I unlocked Carroll I saw the video of him running around the bases like Usain Bolt. Oneil Cruz God card drops then he exit velos his way into the record books. It’s exciting seeing new guys burst onto the scene and why not give them a little juice as an intro.
Problem is that they give them major juice not just a little. They could make a card for every minor leaguer for all I care but they should not be rated higher than anyone in the HOF. FS shouldn't be higher than a 90 IMO.
I mean it's about how they'll play in the "future"... I don't recall how many years into the future it's supposed to be put I'd imagine the legends and presumably the 99s for current players will still be the best cards in the game.
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I used to look the other way at Future Stars cards, but then Elly De La Cruz came along!
I still don't look for them for my team, but 2 or 3 sprinkled in isn't bad. I use the Cruz Brothers, lol and Corbin Caroll, who i got miraculously in a Flatliners pack but that's it. -
@romeischillin said in Future Stars Hate:
I mean it's about how they'll play in the "future"
Only if the gods smile upon them and sugarplum fairies bless their bats.
I think there are like eight 99 overall future stars in the game. None of these guys is the next Trout or Pujols.
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@TheGoaler_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
I used to look the other way at Future Stars cards, but then Elly De La Cruz came along!
I still don't look for them for my team, but 2 or 3 sprinkled in isn't bad. I use the Cruz Brothers, lol and Corbin Caroll, who i got miraculously in a Flatliners pack but that's it.Both the Cruz boys are ridiculous. De la Cruz might be the best budgetbeast in the game and Corbin is nuts for me. Over .500 batting average and gets a home run almost every game.
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@TEXAS10PT_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@eatyum_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@NCStateHokie_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@sunburntcoyote_XBL said in Future Stars Hate:
So I’ve seen a lot of hate about how many future stars they keep adding to the game, and I understand the argument that they’re better than most current players and legends cards. I just grabbed the Corbin Carroll headliner from the free scouting report pack and he’s instantly been better than Griffey and Mantle were for me. After I unlocked Carroll I saw the video of him running around the bases like Usain Bolt. Oneil Cruz God card drops then he exit velos his way into the record books. It’s exciting seeing new guys burst onto the scene and why not give them a little juice as an intro.
Problem is that they give them major juice not just a little. They could make a card for every minor leaguer for all I care but they should not be rated higher than anyone in the HOF. FS shouldn't be higher than a 90 IMO.
So make cards no one cares to use then?
I don't care to use them. They are just filler for the game anyway to me. Part of a collection to get Brett or McCutchen.
Ok so because you don't care to use them they shouldn't make them usable?
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@eatyum_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@TEXAS10PT_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@eatyum_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@NCStateHokie_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@sunburntcoyote_XBL said in Future Stars Hate:
So I’ve seen a lot of hate about how many future stars they keep adding to the game, and I understand the argument that they’re better than most current players and legends cards. I just grabbed the Corbin Carroll headliner from the free scouting report pack and he’s instantly been better than Griffey and Mantle were for me. After I unlocked Carroll I saw the video of him running around the bases like Usain Bolt. Oneil Cruz God card drops then he exit velos his way into the record books. It’s exciting seeing new guys burst onto the scene and why not give them a little juice as an intro.
Problem is that they give them major juice not just a little. They could make a card for every minor leaguer for all I care but they should not be rated higher than anyone in the HOF. FS shouldn't be higher than a 90 IMO.
So make cards no one cares to use then?
I don't care to use them. They are just filler for the game anyway to me. Part of a collection to get Brett or McCutchen.
Ok so because you don't care to use them they shouldn't make them usable?
What now you’re putting words in my mouth? You don’t have to defend the game to me pal. I’ve played this game since it came out. I know what it has evolved into. Use the fake guys all you want. I don’t care if they are useable or not. I don’t use them.
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@SaveFarris_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
The Future Stars hate isn’t directed at the cards themselves. It’s more about “why are we getting a 95 Bryson Stott when we don’t even have a decent Jimmy Rollins yet?” They want to play with their favorites instead of being served cards for players they don’t know yet.
This is it right here. I would be someone that is considered part of the “FS Hate Club”, but I really don’t hate them at all. I just wish more legends and active players that people really cared about had comparable cards earlier in the season as well. At this point the highest Bob Gibson we have is a 90…until just a few weeks ago Griffey and Mantle had nothing higher than an 88…best Sandberg is a 93….Bagwell 89….Rickey 88…I could go on forever. Those are just the first random ones that came to mind. Can we just have both?
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@crashbowman447_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@SaveFarris_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
The Future Stars hate isn’t directed at the cards themselves. It’s more about “why are we getting a 95 Bryson Stott when we don’t even have a decent Jimmy Rollins yet?” They want to play with their favorites instead of being served cards for players they don’t know yet.
This is it right here. I would be someone that is considered part of the “FS Hate Club”, but I really don’t hate them at all. I just wish more legends and active players that people really cared about had comparable cards earlier in the season as well. At this point the highest Bob Gibson we have is a 90…until just a few weeks ago Griffey and Mantle had nothing higher than an 88…best Sandberg is a 93….Bagwell 89….Rickey 88…I could go on forever. Those are just the first random ones that came to mind. Can we just have both?
I like using current players and prospects more than legends, but you’re right. We should have the option to use both. I don’t remember Bagwell even having a high 90s card all of last year. We shouldn’t have to wait until October or later to get these type of cards. The FS cards have been flowing all year - which is great for guys like me. But the legends have been trickling out which is frustrating for guys who prefer these types of cards
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@TEXAS10PT_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@eatyum_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@TEXAS10PT_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@eatyum_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@NCStateHokie_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@sunburntcoyote_XBL said in Future Stars Hate:
So I’ve seen a lot of hate about how many future stars they keep adding to the game, and I understand the argument that they’re better than most current players and legends cards. I just grabbed the Corbin Carroll headliner from the free scouting report pack and he’s instantly been better than Griffey and Mantle were for me. After I unlocked Carroll I saw the video of him running around the bases like Usain Bolt. Oneil Cruz God card drops then he exit velos his way into the record books. It’s exciting seeing new guys burst onto the scene and why not give them a little juice as an intro.
Problem is that they give them major juice not just a little. They could make a card for every minor leaguer for all I care but they should not be rated higher than anyone in the HOF. FS shouldn't be higher than a 90 IMO.
So make cards no one cares to use then?
I don't care to use them. They are just filler for the game anyway to me. Part of a collection to get Brett or McCutchen.
Ok so because you don't care to use them they shouldn't make them usable?
What now you’re putting words in my mouth? You don’t have to defend the game to me pal. I’ve played this game since it came out. I know what it has evolved into. Use the fake guys all you want. I don’t care if they are useable or not. I don’t use them.
Then what was the point of replying to me when I said "So make cards no one cares to use then?"
You replied you don't use them, how in anyway is that relevant to my statement?
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Also I'd like to note, the future stars don't need to become Mike Trout to earn their cards, all they need to be is Elvis Andrus
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@eatyum_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@NCStateHokie_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@sunburntcoyote_XBL said in Future Stars Hate:
So I’ve seen a lot of hate about how many future stars they keep adding to the game, and I understand the argument that they’re better than most current players and legends cards. I just grabbed the Corbin Carroll headliner from the free scouting report pack and he’s instantly been better than Griffey and Mantle were for me. After I unlocked Carroll I saw the video of him running around the bases like Usain Bolt. Oneil Cruz God card drops then he exit velos his way into the record books. It’s exciting seeing new guys burst onto the scene and why not give them a little juice as an intro.
Problem is that they give them major juice not just a little. They could make a card for every minor leaguer for all I care but they should not be rated higher than anyone in the HOF. FS shouldn't be higher than a 90 IMO.
So make cards no one cares to use then?
They do all the time. And my recommendation is to release this card at the beginning of the game.
Jim freaking Palmers CY card is worse than quite a few future stars pitchers. That just isn't right.
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@Possum80_MLBTS said in Future Stars Hate:
@NCStateHokie_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@sunburntcoyote_XBL said in Future Stars Hate:
So I’ve seen a lot of hate about how many future stars they keep adding to the game, and I understand the argument that they’re better than most current players and legends cards. I just grabbed the Corbin Carroll headliner from the free scouting report pack and he’s instantly been better than Griffey and Mantle were for me. After I unlocked Carroll I saw the video of him running around the bases like Usain Bolt. Oneil Cruz God card drops then he exit velos his way into the record books. It’s exciting seeing new guys burst onto the scene and why not give them a little juice as an intro.
Problem is that they give them major juice not just a little. They could make a card for every minor leaguer for all I care but they should not be rated higher than anyone in the HOF. FS shouldn't be higher than a 90 IMO.
Some of these guys are already better than Harold Baines, and he’s in the HOF. Under your rules, we have to wait 30 years for a useable Gunner Henderson card? That’s crazy talk
Nope, your reading comprehension is almost as bad as your assuming skills.
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@romeischillin said in Future Stars Hate:
@NCStateHokie_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@sunburntcoyote_XBL said in Future Stars Hate:
So I’ve seen a lot of hate about how many future stars they keep adding to the game, and I understand the argument that they’re better than most current players and legends cards. I just grabbed the Corbin Carroll headliner from the free scouting report pack and he’s instantly been better than Griffey and Mantle were for me. After I unlocked Carroll I saw the video of him running around the bases like Usain Bolt. Oneil Cruz God card drops then he exit velos his way into the record books. It’s exciting seeing new guys burst onto the scene and why not give them a little juice as an intro.
Problem is that they give them major juice not just a little. They could make a card for every minor leaguer for all I care but they should not be rated higher than anyone in the HOF. FS shouldn't be higher than a 90 IMO.
I mean it's about how they'll play in the "future"... I don't recall how many years into the future it's supposed to be put I'd imagine the legends and presumably the 99s for current players will still be the best cards in the game.
Nvm
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@NCStateHokie_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@eatyum_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@NCStateHokie_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@sunburntcoyote_XBL said in Future Stars Hate:
So I’ve seen a lot of hate about how many future stars they keep adding to the game, and I understand the argument that they’re better than most current players and legends cards. I just grabbed the Corbin Carroll headliner from the free scouting report pack and he’s instantly been better than Griffey and Mantle were for me. After I unlocked Carroll I saw the video of him running around the bases like Usain Bolt. Oneil Cruz God card drops then he exit velos his way into the record books. It’s exciting seeing new guys burst onto the scene and why not give them a little juice as an intro.
Problem is that they give them major juice not just a little. They could make a card for every minor leaguer for all I care but they should not be rated higher than anyone in the HOF. FS shouldn't be higher than a 90 IMO.
So make cards no one cares to use then?
They do all the time. And my recommendation is to release this card at the beginning of the game.
Jim freaking Palmers CY card is worse than quite a few future stars pitchers. That just isn't right.
And then people will say they make LS obsolete to fast.
Also I doubt Jim Palmer cares
