Pinpoint Pitching is discrimination
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I can't handle PPP myself and prefer classic.
That being said, calling SDS discriminatory is rediculous. I enjoy using classic and timing. That's my choice. It's more fun for me. So players who mastered the other forms better then me? Probably. But I've beaten players who use PPP and PCI. Even if I get destroyed and frustrated, I still have fun.
That being said, I think hitting homers in this game is way to easy for masters. To deal with that just make sure you're not pitching predictably.
All in all I'll never get to 1200 in ranked. I'm ok with it
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@suntlacrimae50_psn said in Pinpoint Pitching is discrimination:
It’s a video game that relies on hand-eye coordination. For you to call that discrimination is some ultimate woke [censored].
you are using woke in a negative way which is not the original meaning behind the term. this dude is simply wrong in his assessment, please don't tie his foolishness to a term that was meant for good.
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Also, I have alot of respect for players who are legit good at this game.
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@warpedzilla_psn said in Pinpoint Pitching is discrimination:
@suntlacrimae50_psn said in Pinpoint Pitching is discrimination:
It’s a video game that relies on hand-eye coordination. For you to call that discrimination is some ultimate woke [censored].
you are using woke in a negative way which is not the original meaning behind the term. this dude is simply wrong in his assessment, please don't tie his foolishness to a term that was meant for good.
"For good" is your opinion though. He is entitled to his.
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I liked how Grizz explained it
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@jacky-chan1_xbl said in Pinpoint Pitching is discrimination:
@warpedzilla_psn said in Pinpoint Pitching is discrimination:
@suntlacrimae50_psn said in Pinpoint Pitching is discrimination:
It’s a video game that relies on hand-eye coordination. For you to call that discrimination is some ultimate woke [censored].
you are using woke in a negative way which is not the original meaning behind the term. this dude is simply wrong in his assessment, please don't tie his foolishness to a term that was meant for good.
"For good" is your opinion though. He is entitled to his.
Try to stay on topic with the OPs topic.lol it is not an opinion. it is a matter of fact. woke means "alert to injustice in society, especially racism." that is not something negative dawg.
it has been twisted and manipulated and people have been using it as a negative which is unfortunate.
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Keep it to OP topic please
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lol ok mr. moderator sir.
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Hey I'm not disagreeing with ya. I just think adding fuel to it isn't productive and off topic. Either way, people tend to overreact.
That being said, I'd like a ranked option for timing and classic only
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Meter pitching >
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There shouldn’t be stairs, because not everyone can use them. Only ramps and elevators
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We have the choice to use any of the pitching options knowing there are advantages to using the hardest as it should be.
I am disabled but the reason I use meter still is hitting is so [censored] hard and takes so much focus I’ll use meter bc it’s the easy option
I play at least 500 ranked games each year and my era is always low 4’s
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Everyone should play like they want, freedom of choice
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@warpedzilla_psn said in Pinpoint Pitching is discrimination:
@suntlacrimae50_psn said in Pinpoint Pitching is discrimination:
It’s a video game that relies on hand-eye coordination. For you to call that discrimination is some ultimate woke [censored].
you are using woke in a negative way which is not the original meaning behind the term. this dude is simply wrong in his assessment, please don't tie his foolishness to a term that was meant for good.
My main concern with the “perks” is the stamina issue. There is no way Shohei should go 10 innings with 122 pitches and still have green energy. (Just an example of something I’ve seen with my own eyes watching 2 other people play. Stamina shouldn’t be influenced by which input method you use.
For any of you to think it’s foolish for someone to speak up for the handicapped and people that may not have a voice of their own shows exactly how toxic you are. I claim the opinion that “woke” is a negative term.
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I think the way SDS balances it now is actually pretty good. The more accessible inputs have a higher floor but lower ceiling while the more skill based ones have a lower floor and higher ceiling. With classic or one of the easier ones you will never get as bad an input as you can with meter or PPP.
The stamina thing I believe is a bug they still haven't figured out since last year. Stamina should definitely be universal across the inputs.
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People with opposable thumbs have an advantage in pretty much every console game.
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@grizzbear55_psn said in Pinpoint Pitching is discrimination:
@harrisville318 said in Pinpoint Pitching is discrimination:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Pinpoint Pitching is discrimination:
@harrisville318 said in Pinpoint Pitching is discrimination:
Pinpoint pitchings “rewards” are discriminatory. A persons choice of pitching style, whether it’s chosen by choice or necessity, should all have the same results across all input styles for perfect, good, and late releases regardless of the pitching style. Some people could have physical handicaps that won’t allow them to use certain input methods. Pitching stamina should not be affected by an input method. Most of us can use pinpoint (it’s actually too easy for the perks) without any issue but there are a lot of people in the community that are put at a disadvantage because of their real life disadvantages.
Ignorance!
explainThere are 5 pitch types:
PPP
Meter
Analog
Pulse
Classic
2 require use of sticks and 3 require push button. PPP and Meter have already been proven to be two most accurate in accordance to user input in competitive mode. 1 of each type. So discrimination? Not even close. All pitch types are available anywhere throughout the rest of the game.
You used physical handicap as part of your statement in defense so not sure what your point was to that. You want voice activation pitching? There is something for everyone and you have to practice with whichever you choose just like hitting types and fielding types. Just think your saying SDS is being discrimitory was way off base, (no pun intended) b/c that means for someone to be left out. And i just think that statement was proposterus.
Well said Grizz. The main issue I have is the stamina drain difference given to pinpoint. Difference in input method should not affect how fast stamina drains. Quality of pitch release should only do one thing, determine how accurate the pitch is. I have no issue with pinpoint perfect being slightly more accurate than meter. If you go back to my original post you’ll see that I only singled out one benefit, pitcher stamina.
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@harrisville318 said in Pinpoint Pitching is discrimination:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Pinpoint Pitching is discrimination:
@harrisville318 said in Pinpoint Pitching is discrimination:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Pinpoint Pitching is discrimination:
@harrisville318 said in Pinpoint Pitching is discrimination:
Pinpoint pitchings “rewards” are discriminatory. A persons choice of pitching style, whether it’s chosen by choice or necessity, should all have the same results across all input styles for perfect, good, and late releases regardless of the pitching style. Some people could have physical handicaps that won’t allow them to use certain input methods. Pitching stamina should not be affected by an input method. Most of us can use pinpoint (it’s actually too easy for the perks) without any issue but there are a lot of people in the community that are put at a disadvantage because of their real life disadvantages.
Ignorance!
explainThere are 5 pitch types:
PPP
Meter
Analog
Pulse
Classic
2 require use of sticks and 3 require push button. PPP and Meter have already been proven to be two most accurate in accordance to user input in competitive mode. 1 of each type. So discrimination? Not even close. All pitch types are available anywhere throughout the rest of the game.
You used physical handicap as part of your statement in defense so not sure what your point was to that. You want voice activation pitching? There is something for everyone and you have to practice with whichever you choose just like hitting types and fielding types. Just think your saying SDS is being discrimitory was way off base, (no pun intended) b/c that means for someone to be left out. And i just think that statement was proposterus.
Well said Grizz. The main issue I have is the stamina drain difference given to pinpoint. Difference in input method should not affect how fast stamina drains. Quality of pitch release should only do one thing, determine how accurate the pitch is. I have no issue with pinpoint perfect being slightly more accurate than meter. If you go back to my original post you’ll see that I only singled out one benefit, pitcher stamina.
You keep saying that. I wasn't aware that there is a stamina drain difference between pitching interfaces.
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@nflman2033_mlbts said in Pinpoint Pitching is discrimination:
@harrisville318 said in Pinpoint Pitching is discrimination:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Pinpoint Pitching is discrimination:
@harrisville318 said in Pinpoint Pitching is discrimination:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Pinpoint Pitching is discrimination:
@harrisville318 said in Pinpoint Pitching is discrimination:
Pinpoint pitchings “rewards” are discriminatory. A persons choice of pitching style, whether it’s chosen by choice or necessity, should all have the same results across all input styles for perfect, good, and late releases regardless of the pitching style. Some people could have physical handicaps that won’t allow them to use certain input methods. Pitching stamina should not be affected by an input method. Most of us can use pinpoint (it’s actually too easy for the perks) without any issue but there are a lot of people in the community that are put at a disadvantage because of their real life disadvantages.
Ignorance!
explainThere are 5 pitch types:
PPP
Meter
Analog
Pulse
Classic
2 require use of sticks and 3 require push button. PPP and Meter have already been proven to be two most accurate in accordance to user input in competitive mode. 1 of each type. So discrimination? Not even close. All pitch types are available anywhere throughout the rest of the game.
You used physical handicap as part of your statement in defense so not sure what your point was to that. You want voice activation pitching? There is something for everyone and you have to practice with whichever you choose just like hitting types and fielding types. Just think your saying SDS is being discrimitory was way off base, (no pun intended) b/c that means for someone to be left out. And i just think that statement was proposterus.
Well said Grizz. The main issue I have is the stamina drain difference given to pinpoint. Difference in input method should not affect how fast stamina drains. Quality of pitch release should only do one thing, determine how accurate the pitch is. I have no issue with pinpoint perfect being slightly more accurate than meter. If you go back to my original post you’ll see that I only singled out one benefit, pitcher stamina.
You keep saying that. I wasn't aware that there is a stamina drain difference between pitching interfaces.
I wasn't either, i've dabbled in PPP last year didn't like it so went back to meter. I'm curious if it's the pattern follow that causes it? Or if it's more noticeable b/c of the lack of 90+ stamina guys?
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@grizzbear55_psn said in Pinpoint Pitching is discrimination:
@nflman2033_mlbts said in Pinpoint Pitching is discrimination:
@harrisville318 said in Pinpoint Pitching is discrimination:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Pinpoint Pitching is discrimination:
@harrisville318 said in Pinpoint Pitching is discrimination:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Pinpoint Pitching is discrimination:
@harrisville318 said in Pinpoint Pitching is discrimination:
Pinpoint pitchings “rewards” are discriminatory. A persons choice of pitching style, whether it’s chosen by choice or necessity, should all have the same results across all input styles for perfect, good, and late releases regardless of the pitching style. Some people could have physical handicaps that won’t allow them to use certain input methods. Pitching stamina should not be affected by an input method. Most of us can use pinpoint (it’s actually too easy for the perks) without any issue but there are a lot of people in the community that are put at a disadvantage because of their real life disadvantages.
Ignorance!
explainThere are 5 pitch types:
PPP
Meter
Analog
Pulse
Classic
2 require use of sticks and 3 require push button. PPP and Meter have already been proven to be two most accurate in accordance to user input in competitive mode. 1 of each type. So discrimination? Not even close. All pitch types are available anywhere throughout the rest of the game.
You used physical handicap as part of your statement in defense so not sure what your point was to that. You want voice activation pitching? There is something for everyone and you have to practice with whichever you choose just like hitting types and fielding types. Just think your saying SDS is being discrimitory was way off base, (no pun intended) b/c that means for someone to be left out. And i just think that statement was proposterus.
Well said Grizz. The main issue I have is the stamina drain difference given to pinpoint. Difference in input method should not affect how fast stamina drains. Quality of pitch release should only do one thing, determine how accurate the pitch is. I have no issue with pinpoint perfect being slightly more accurate than meter. If you go back to my original post you’ll see that I only singled out one benefit, pitcher stamina.
You keep saying that. I wasn't aware that there is a stamina drain difference between pitching interfaces.
I wasn't either, i've dabbled in PPP last year didn't like it so went back to meter. I'm curious if it's the pattern follow that causes it? Or if it's more noticeable b/c of the lack of 90+ stamina guys?
I love it, but I haven't noticed any issues, but it's the only interface I've used this year and I've mostly played 3 inning games.
