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Honest opinion...will the market become flippable and when?

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    @go4stros25_psn said in Honest opinion...will the market become flippable and when?:

    Showzone, and all the youtubers talking about it, don't help the market. Everytime "showzone this", or "this player that" gets mentions on youtube 100 little kids flock to that player and have a piranha frenzy until the margin is gone.

    This. Everyone flips now. It might become flippable once a significant amount of people have completed their collections and have a comfortable enough bankroll to not pay attention. My most successful flips this year weren’t really flips, they were short term investments based on anticipated supply/demand related to the schedule.

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    @Ericulous1_PSN check your messages. Hope it helps!

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    @savefarris_psn said in Honest opinion...will the market become flippable and when?:

    @oreorockstar_psn said in Honest opinion...will the market become flippable and when?:

    Right now the juice isn’t worth the squeeze for me, but for those wanting to work on smaller Margins and devote hours a day, more power to them. I value my time more than what I can make.

    For me, the action is the juice.

    Great movie.

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    @stinkysman77_mlbts said in Honest opinion...will the market become flippable and when?:

    You just need to know what to flip.... I've already fliipped my way to completing the live series

    To add to this, know when also.

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    @painpa_psn said in Honest opinion...will the market become flippable and when?:

    @stinkysman77_mlbts said in Honest opinion...will the market become flippable and when?:

    You just need to know what to flip.... I've already fliipped my way to completing the live series

    To add to this, know when also.

    Also, knowing when to hold 'em. Knowing when to fold 'em. Knowing when to walk away, AAAAAAAAAAND knowing when to run.

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    quantity>quality

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    @painpa_psn said in Honest opinion...will the market become flippable and when?:

    @stinkysman77_mlbts said in Honest opinion...will the market become flippable and when?:

    You just need to know what to flip.... I've already fliipped my way to completing the live series

    To add to this, know when also.

    True...that is very important

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    @donttuchmethaar_xbl said in Honest opinion...will the market become flippable and when?:

    @Ericulous1_PSN check your messages. Hope it helps!

    Thanks dude, will give it a try.

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    @ericulous1_psn said in Honest opinion...will the market become flippable and when?:

    Hahahaha, that's funny. I'd never even heard of Showzone until today. As soon as I did pretty much what you just said @go4stros25_PSN hahaha, the margins evaporated. I learned my lesson in about 5 mins. That's not the avenue for me.

    And @OreoRockstar_PSN you pretty much summed up how I feel. I know I could make some. I made about 20K on the anime cards the other day but I was on the app for way too much time for such little return. To each their own, I definitely don't mind the grind if it's profitable.

    Ps: Juice worth the squeeze....Girl Next Door. LOVE Elisha Cuthbert.

    Is Showzone different from the app? I just downloaded app today so it's new to me.

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    I have profited 15k today not sure if that is good or bad, getting 50 to 100 profit per flip in about 2 hours off and on.

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    @dbarmonstar_psn said in Honest opinion...will the market become flippable and when?:

    I have profited 15k today not sure if that is good or bad, getting 50 to 100 profit per flip in about 2 hours off and on.

    Yeah there is definitely profit there, but buying and selling 150 bronzes just really isn't my cup of tea lol

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    @the_dragon1912 said in Honest opinion...will the market become flippable and when?:

    @dbarmonstar_psn said in Honest opinion...will the market become flippable and when?:

    I have profited 15k today not sure if that is good or bad, getting 50 to 100 profit per flip in about 2 hours off and on.

    Yeah there is definitely profit there, but buying and selling 150 bronzes just really isn't my cup of tea lol

    I know it is not for you, for the record that is not what I am flipping today, those are just a few that you can really move at that price but those come down really quick, I found some other cards to flip that is going ok so far.

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    @the_dragon1912 said in Honest opinion...will the market become flippable and when?:

    @dbarmonstar_psn said in Honest opinion...will the market become flippable and when?:

    I have profited 15k today not sure if that is good or bad, getting 50 to 100 profit per flip in about 2 hours off and on.

    Yeah there is definitely profit there, but buying and selling 150 bronzes just really isn't my cup of tea lol

    I also think the cards I am flipping will stay at this value for a few more weeks

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    @dbarmonstar_psn said in Honest opinion...will the market become flippable and when?:

    @the_dragon1912 said in Honest opinion...will the market become flippable and when?:

    @dbarmonstar_psn said in Honest opinion...will the market become flippable and when?:

    I have profited 15k today not sure if that is good or bad, getting 50 to 100 profit per flip in about 2 hours off and on.

    Yeah there is definitely profit there, but buying and selling 150 bronzes just really isn't my cup of tea lol

    I also think the cards I am flipping will stay at this value for a few more weeks

    I would be ok with 500 per flip if it moved relatively quickly, but it seems anything over 150/200 is moving slow. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place for it

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    I'm not quite as optimistic as others here about the market generating better margins, for a couple of reasons. First, the market is flooded with new players from XBOX and Switch. More players results in slimmer margins--the more people competing to buy or sell a particular card squeezes the margins. Second, SDS has formulated collections and the way they offer cards to discourage flipping. Exhibit A is the Topps Now cards. Last year, those were my go-to sets for making sizable gains. Now, they are doing them differently, releasing them one at a time, and four in a group, rather than in packs. And you (so far) need all of them, so there is no incentive to sell them, or one that's obvious to me. I thought maybe the FOTF cards would create a flippable market, but so far those margins too are super thin, at best. I guess some people are finding good margins in things like equipment and rituals, but that's not my thing so much. In my experience, having flipped for a few years now, low diamond sets create the best markets, both in terms of the time you'd need to dedicate to it to make your time worthwhile, and the monetary return. It was good ROI. But right now, that collection does not exist. But to my first point, even if it did, the sheer number of players/flippers in the market would shrink margins.

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    @txraider78_psn said in Honest opinion...will the market become flippable and when?:

    I'm not quite as optimistic as others here about the market generating better margins, for a couple of reasons. First, the market is flooded with new players from XBOX and Switch. More players results in slimmer margins--the more people competing to buy or sell a particular card squeezes the margins. Second, SDS has formulated collections and the way they offer cards to discourage flipping. Exhibit A is the Topps Now cards. Last year, those were my go-to sets for making sizable gains. Now, they are doing them differently, releasing them one at a time, and four in a group, rather than in packs. And you (so far) need all of them, so there is no incentive to sell them, or one that's obvious to me. I thought maybe the FOTF cards would create a flippable market, but so far those margins too are super thin, at best. I guess some people are finding good margins in things like equipment and rituals, but that's not my thing so much. In my experience, having flipped for a few years now, low diamond sets create the best markets, both in terms of the time you'd need to dedicate to it to make your time worthwhile, and the monetary return. It was good ROI. But right now, that collection does not exist. But to my first point, even if it did, the sheer number of players/flippers in the market would shrink margins.

    As a topps now flipper myself I don't think those are a problem just yet. The most profitable topps now cards by far were the June set(Schwarber POTM). The april and may ones didn't have great margins until real late. Also the current topps now cards still do have the biggest margins for gold players despite only being only 200-300. I do think margins go up after a while, but not as quickly as previous years. As you said there are more people doing it, but how many of them have the willpower to keep after it all year. I think alot of people will get tired and bored at some point and they open up

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    @the_dragon1912 said in Honest opinion...will the market become flippable and when?:

    @dbarmonstar_psn said in Honest opinion...will the market become flippable and when?:

    @the_dragon1912 said in Honest opinion...will the market become flippable and when?:

    @dbarmonstar_psn said in Honest opinion...will the market become flippable and when?:

    I have profited 15k today not sure if that is good or bad, getting 50 to 100 profit per flip in about 2 hours off and on.

    Yeah there is definitely profit there, but buying and selling 150 bronzes just really isn't my cup of tea lol

    I also think the cards I am flipping will stay at this value for a few more weeks

    I would be ok with 500 per flip if it moved relatively quickly, but it seems anything over 150/200 is moving slow. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place for it

    Maybe that is it

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