No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons
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@rf21_psn said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
SDS- anyway you can tweak this? Maybe a combination of XP and innings? Or getting to certain levels (division series, championship) "buys" you a number of progress requiring less innings or XP to reach WS? Otherwise, someone like myself just don't see the point of playing ranked when I'm trying to get as many cards as possible.
Combination of Wins and Innings might make more sense than XP since they'd have to program a whole RS specific XP calculator (otherwise people just going to grind RTTS for World Series rewards).
Similar to BR program, make it so XX number of wins gives you points towards the WS reward, or maybe getting a W adds a 1.5x or 2x multiplier to your inning count.
Personally I like the change to innings because its frustrating watching someone quit the minute they give up a single run. Plus if you're playing at a higher rank or a better opponent, you can still play a game and lose and still make progress to that WS reward even if you're losing ranking points.
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The whole point of the system is to encourage people to play as many games as possible. Ranked should be about reaching 900 not just winning x number of games, ranked should be way more fun this year considering you always progress win or lose. Either was ranked was great in up until 21. 21 brought out the worst of everyone that was just taking advantage a win system. Players in the 400s-500s should actually be able to compete again. Last year those players lost enjoyment of the game because of the tanking, Would have high level players purposely losing to de rank and get easy wins.
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The other thing the change was meant to combat was people who would play at the lower levels to get wins, then when the opponents got stronger they would just start a bunch of games and keep quitting until they were back in the lowest divisions to rack up easy wins against weaker opponents.
So, the exploiters are to blame. Like many games the exploiters ruin it for those who don't exploit.
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Sure there is- to have fun, sharpen skills, gain XP for the programs, get packs etc etc
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I can see both sides. But this is what happens when SDS tries to cater to everyone. Making online skill-based rewards available for average players has to be infuriating for the WS crowd, but the inning total is just insane.
Can's see myself playing RS because neither method now will work for me.
Not good enough to make WS, not willing to invest the time to get to 400 innings because it would be the only mode I'd be able to play.
On to BR! then I'll use those cards to get the RS rewards OR keep them depending on which ones are better.
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I agree in general on innings, if not a lot of people grind it they might reduce the innings. Also a decent idea to give bonus for DS and higher or something. I personally am not going to play a ton of ranked seasons as it seems like just too much and i'd rather put energy towards other modes. Some people do grind ranked seasons like crazy so they might not change it, hard to say. I won't blame them if they don't i just think slight tweaking is a good idea.
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So I haven't played Ranked Seasons yet, but I'm I reading this right? 400 innings nets the world series reward? I mean I LOVE THAT IDEA...to combat dashboarding...love it.
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@serrato32_psn said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
So I haven't played Ranked Seasons yet, but I'm I reading this right? 400 innings nets the world series reward? I mean I LOVE THAT IDEA...to combat dashboarding...love it.
I didn't realize there was a change until I saw it, but yes - innings played is one way to earn rewards.
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@rf21_psn said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
Keep in mind that my biggest issue is just the number of innings. I just don't have enough time, if I grind this, I don't get to play any of the other modes. Hopeful they do reduce the number of innings, but if its late in the year I'll just have to buy the cards I don't get. Glad that I'm not the only one that thinks 400 innings is a lot.
In regards to people quitting last year. Not sure how many people have fun getting beat by 7 or eight runs. I bet most people like to play a competitive close game. You don't always have that. Still a believer that the full games truly only helps content creators.
Quitting down 7-8 runs is one thing. But in my experience, and I’m not very good online, pretty much anytime I went up a run or two, I would either get a friendly quit request, and outright quit or a dashboard. It doesn’t break my heart because I’ll take the win but it is kind of lame to not finish a game.
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What if they changed it to 400 innings or 40 wins, That way if you can win a lot its good or cant win much you can still grind it
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@thegreatwilliss_xbl said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
What if they changed it to 400 innings or 40 wins, That way if you can win a lot its good or cant win much you can still grind it
The whole point of switching to innings was to cut down on people quitting to prey on lesser opponents instead of playing people their own skill level
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So SDS caters to the dozen YTers and not the tens? of thousands of others who play the game?
Aside from giving up your whole life and/or another plandemic, who has time to play 400 innings especially when people are still dashboarding anyway?
Other option is to spend $200 on stubs to buy the player off the small amount of WS level players?
Scumbag move SDS, big time scumbag move
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I mean look before it was only World Series players who got the reward and that meant months of waiting in a million stub buy order mess... Then they tried the win thing, between exploiters, pinpoint degrom and Cabrera by the middle of the season no one could play a full ranked game unless you were losing and didn’t quit... So they’re trying the inning thing... At least they are trying to find a way to no lock WS rewards and give everyone who plays a chance... It might not be perfect, but they’re trying. I think eventually they’ll find a point system like BR, but that will be after the innings experiment this year.
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@i-pureblood-i_psn said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
So SDS caters to the dozen YTers and not the tens? of thousands of others who play the game?
Aside from giving up your whole life and/or another plandemic, who has time to play 400 innings especially when people are still dashboarding anyway?
Other option is to spend $200 on stubs to buy the player off the small amount of WS level players?
Scumbag move SDS, big time scumbag move
the scum bag move were the people abusing the win system last year, and playing weak opponents, ITS A RANKED PLAYLIST, it has to have some form of that aspect so it doesn't turn into a quit fest. Either make WS or play the darn game, you dont even have to win, you get rewarded even if you lose thats so far from being a scumbag.
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So for an average player like me (135-113 last year in RS) there's not a huge difference.
I needed to play about 54 games last year to get to 30 wins. But there were probably 15-20 of those games that were early quits (by me or my opponent). So 45 or so games for 400 innings is very comparable.
For the best WS type players? This move absolutely destroys them. They'll have to play a ton more now.
For the worst players, but who are willing to grind? This move is all about them. Helps them enormously.
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I guess it is worth pointing out that WS rewards are supposed to be somewhat exclusive.
I think I played a total of 87 ranked games last year. If every one was a full game (which obviously they were not) that would have been 783 innings.
Now if someone can do 400 innings of ranked in a month, my hat is off to them, but they are probably in the minority of this community.
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@dbub_psn said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
So for an average player like me (135-113 last year in RS) there's not a huge difference.
I needed to play about 54 games last year to get to 30 wins. But there were probably 15-20 of those games that were early quits (by me or my opponent). So 45 or so games for 400 innings is very comparable.
For the best WS type players? This move absolutely destroys them. They'll have to play a ton more now.
For the worst players, but who are willing to grind? This move is all about them. Helps them enormously.
But why would it hurt the WS type players that are already making WS each ranked season? They still have to make it to 900 which they do in the blink of an eye
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Wins mean a LOT less to us who can't realistically make WS. I know my skill level, and it maxes out in the low 800's.
The 400 inning grind is horrendous, but it DOES clarify that I won't be playing RS much.
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@guccigangchuck said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
@i-pureblood-i_psn said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
So SDS caters to the dozen YTers and not the tens? of thousands of others who play the game?
Aside from giving up your whole life and/or another plandemic, who has time to play 400 innings especially when people are still dashboarding anyway?
Other option is to spend $200 on stubs to buy the player off the small amount of WS level players?
Scumbag move SDS, big time scumbag move
the scum bag move were the people abusing the win system last year, and playing weak opponents, ITS A RANKED PLAYLIST, it has to have some form of that aspect so it doesn't turn into a quit fest. Either make WS or play the darn game, you dont even have to win, you get rewarded even if you lose thats so far from being a scumbag.
Fair up to a point, but if you're a 4A player like me -- too good for low rankings, never good enough for WS -- quitting was useful. I was never pathological about it, and always quit down to a level where I thought I had a 50/50 shot at a win.
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@dbub_psn said in No Point in Playing Ranked Seasons:
So for an average player like me (135-113 last year in RS) there's not a huge difference.
I needed to play about 54 games last year to get to 30 wins. But there were probably 15-20 of those games that were early quits (by me or my opponent). So 45 or so games for 400 innings is very comparable.
For the best WS type players? This move absolutely destroys them. They'll have to play a ton more now.
For the worst players, but who are willing to grind? This move is all about them. Helps them enormously.
WS Players don't have to play more, they just only get the reward once instead of making WS, dropping down to ruin the experience for 500-600 players, and getting their wins.
