MLBPA rejects mediator
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@aaronjw76_mlbts said in MLBPA rejects mediator:
Thrse guys (all of them) clearly forgot how DEAD baseball was following the last work stoppage. They have a great thing going right now with some remarkably exciting young players and teams yet here we are.
It took steroids for ppl to care about baseball after 95. What will they turn to this time to revive it?
Change the baseball to a blern.
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@aaronjw76_mlbts said in MLBPA rejects mediator:
Thrse guys (all of them) clearly forgot how DEAD baseball was following the last work stoppage. They have a great thing going right now with some remarkably exciting young players and teams yet here we are.
It took steroids for ppl to care about baseball after 95. What will they turn to this time to revive it?
It took Cal Ripken Jr. to save it. Then the single season home run chase brought back everyone else.
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@styxxx80_xbl said in MLBPA rejects mediator:
@aaronjw76_mlbts said in MLBPA rejects mediator:
Thrse guys (all of them) clearly forgot how DEAD baseball was following the last work stoppage. They have a great thing going right now with some remarkably exciting young players and teams yet here we are.
It took steroids for ppl to care about baseball after 95. What will they turn to this time to revive it?
It took Cal Ripken Jr. to save it. Then the single season home run chase brought back everyone else.
Fair point.
Well, they don't have a Cal OR steroids anymore so I guess they're fcked lol
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It's just so frustrating to watch something you love in the hands of greedy business men who care nothing about it. I'm more on the side of the players obviously but I'm not exactly feeling feeling sorry for guys like Scherzer or even someone like Kirby Yates who makes several million a year and hasn't played since 2019. I would take the league minimum and be able to live quite comfortably forever. It's just a continuous slap in the face to people who work hard and make a small percentage of what these players and owmers make and just want the game they love ro entertain them.
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@ikasnu_psn said in MLBPA rejects mediator:
@aaronjw76_mlbts said in MLBPA rejects mediator:
Thrse guys (all of them) clearly forgot how DEAD baseball was following the last work stoppage. They have a great thing going right now with some remarkably exciting young players and teams yet here we are.
It took steroids for ppl to care about baseball after 95. What will they turn to this time to revive it?
Change the baseball to a blern.
obscure futurama reference??
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F MLB and the MLBPA. They don’t give two turds about us.
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They do own the manufacturing of baseballs, even admitted to using two different balls last year. Hmmm I see a big jump in home runs when they do play again. And yes both sides are greedy dumb asses willing to sacrifice the game for money.
It's just as stupid that it's almost impossible to watch my team play on tv with local games getting blacked out and hard to find on any streaming service. Yet the most popular sport football is free every Sunday on local tv. -
@ladyswampfox_xbl said in MLBPA rejects mediator:
F MLB and the MLBPA. They don’t give two turds about us.
We are definitely the losers of this entire thing.
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@ikasnu_psn said in MLBPA rejects mediator:
@ladyswampfox_xbl said in MLBPA rejects mediator:
F MLB and the MLBPA. They don’t give two turds about us.
We are definitely the losers of this entire thing.
We are. Along with all the folks on the periphery... Stadium workers and vendors, restaurant and bar owners, etc.
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@ikasnu_psn said in MLBPA rejects mediator:
@aaronjw76_mlbts said in MLBPA rejects mediator:
Thrse guys (all of them) clearly forgot how DEAD baseball was following the last work stoppage. They have a great thing going right now with some remarkably exciting young players and teams yet here we are.
It took steroids for ppl to care about baseball after 95. What will they turn to this time to revive it?
Change the baseball to a blern.
I vote for a season of Baseketball.
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@xxchaosmnkyxx_psn said in MLBPA rejects mediator:
They do own the manufacturing of baseballs, even admitted to using two different balls last year. Hmmm I see a big jump in home runs when they do play again. And yes both sides are greedy dumb asses willing to sacrifice the game for money.
It's just as stupid that it's almost impossible to watch my team play on tv with local games getting blacked out and hard to find on any streaming service. Yet the most popular sport football is free every Sunday on local tv.As much as the O’s stink, I would like to catch a game now and then but I can’t get the game by streaming it on their radio station because of blackouts. I can’t justify getting cable to just watch the O’s. I sound old but I remember when the O’s were on local TV in Baltimore.
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@evylshaun_psn said in MLBPA rejects mediator:
@ikasnu_psn said in MLBPA rejects mediator:
@aaronjw76_mlbts said in MLBPA rejects mediator:
Thrse guys (all of them) clearly forgot how DEAD baseball was following the last work stoppage. They have a great thing going right now with some remarkably exciting young players and teams yet here we are.
It took steroids for ppl to care about baseball after 95. What will they turn to this time to revive it?
Change the baseball to a blern.
I vote for a season of Baseketball.
I'm all in as long as Reel Big Fish plays at the games, or another late 90's Ska band. Goldfinger would also be acceptable.
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@evylshaun_psn said in MLBPA rejects mediator:
@ikasnu_psn said in MLBPA rejects mediator:
@aaronjw76_mlbts said in MLBPA rejects mediator:
Thrse guys (all of them) clearly forgot how DEAD baseball was following the last work stoppage. They have a great thing going right now with some remarkably exciting young players and teams yet here we are.
It took steroids for ppl to care about baseball after 95. What will they turn to this time to revive it?
Change the baseball to a blern.
I vote for a season of Baseketball.
I would [censored] love a professional baseketball circuit.
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@pennstatefencer said in MLBPA rejects mediator:
@evylshaun_psn said in MLBPA rejects mediator:
@ikasnu_psn said in MLBPA rejects mediator:
@aaronjw76_mlbts said in MLBPA rejects mediator:
Thrse guys (all of them) clearly forgot how DEAD baseball was following the last work stoppage. They have a great thing going right now with some remarkably exciting young players and teams yet here we are.
It took steroids for ppl to care about baseball after 95. What will they turn to this time to revive it?
Change the baseball to a blern.
I vote for a season of Baseketball.
I'm all in as long as Reel Big Fish plays at the games, or another late 90's Ska band. Goldfinger would also be acceptable.
Ska-lelujah
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It's hard to have sympathy for either side. I know the owners are greedy but when a guys in their early 20's are making the league minimum, which is over a half million dollars, it is hard to empathize with them.
Let's look at Max Scherzer's most recent twitter post
"We want a system where threshold and penalties don’t function as caps, allows younger players to realize more of their market value, makes service time manipulation a thing of the past, and eliminate tanking as a winning strategy."
Let me ask a question then if there is no cap or penalties then how does that make the game more competitive? The big market teams will just spend ridiculous amounts of money and get all of the talent while small market teams are left to flounder. Isn't that why they tank now because they can't compete with teams that spend 200 million plus, like the Dodgers, Mets and Yankees? If young players hit free agency sooner then the best ones will all just gravitate to the big spenders.
Seems like what the players are pushing for will just widen the gap between the top tier teams and the bottom tier teams.
I am not pulling for the owners either but Max's statement just seems like it would cause more issues.
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@dolenz_psn said in MLBPA rejects mediator:
It's hard to have sympathy for either side. I know the owners are greedy but when a guys in their early 20's are making the league minimum, which is over a half million dollars, it is hard to empathize with them.
Let's look at Max Scherzer's most recent twitter post
"We want a system where threshold and penalties don’t function as caps, allows younger players to realize more of their market value, makes service time manipulation a thing of the past, and eliminate tanking as a winning strategy."
Let me ask a question then if there is no cap or penalties then how does that make the game more competitive? The big market teams will just spend ridiculous amounts of money and get all of the talent while small market teams are left to flounder. Isn't that why they tank now because they can't compete with teams that spend 200 million plus, like the Dodgers, Mets and Yankees? If young players hit free agency sooner then the best ones will all just gravitate to the big spenders.
Seems like what the players are pushing for will just widen the gap between the top tier teams and the bottom tier teams.
I am not pulling for the owners either but Max's statement just seems like it would cause more issues.
This is 100% true.
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@dolenz_psn said in MLBPA rejects mediator:
It's hard to have sympathy for either side. I know the owners are greedy but when a guys in their early 20's are making the league minimum, which is over a half million dollars, it is hard to empathize with them.
Let's look at Max Scherzer's most recent twitter post
"We want a system where threshold and penalties don’t function as caps, allows younger players to realize more of their market value, makes service time manipulation a thing of the past, and eliminate tanking as a winning strategy."
Let me ask a question then if there is no cap or penalties then how does that make the game more competitive? The big market teams will just spend ridiculous amounts of money and get all of the talent while small market teams are left to flounder. Isn't that why they tank now because they can't compete with teams that spend 200 million plus, like the Dodgers, Mets and Yankees? If young players hit free agency sooner then the best ones will all just gravitate to the big spenders.
Seems like what the players are pushing for will just widen the gap between the top tier teams and the bottom tier teams.
I am not pulling for the owners either but Max's statement just seems like it would cause more issues.
Dude every team can carry a 150m roster and most others can exceed the luxury tax.
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@ikasnu_psn said in MLBPA rejects mediator:
@dolenz_psn said in MLBPA rejects mediator:
It's hard to have sympathy for either side. I know the owners are greedy but when a guys in their early 20's are making the league minimum, which is over a half million dollars, it is hard to empathize with them.
Let's look at Max Scherzer's most recent twitter post
"We want a system where threshold and penalties don’t function as caps, allows younger players to realize more of their market value, makes service time manipulation a thing of the past, and eliminate tanking as a winning strategy."
Let me ask a question then if there is no cap or penalties then how does that make the game more competitive? The big market teams will just spend ridiculous amounts of money and get all of the talent while small market teams are left to flounder. Isn't that why they tank now because they can't compete with teams that spend 200 million plus, like the Dodgers, Mets and Yankees? If young players hit free agency sooner then the best ones will all just gravitate to the big spenders.
Seems like what the players are pushing for will just widen the gap between the top tier teams and the bottom tier teams.
I am not pulling for the owners either but Max's statement just seems like it would cause more issues.
Dude every team can carry a 150m roster and most others can exceed the luxury tax.
Well, I can't pretend to know what teams can or can't afford. There are just way to many factors that I know nothing about. But even if every team can carry a 150 million payroll then would that make them even competitive when big teams like the Dodgers can spend 300 million or more without penalties?
Will it help them keep homegrown talent when those big market teams will always throw more money at the best free agents?
I just don't believe that removing penalties for exceeding the threshold will help small market teams become competitive.
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You're not wrong, but I believe these teams choose to be small market teams and would rather pocket the cash or spend it elsewhere.
What MLB needs is a salary floor or compensation for just missing out on the playoffs. I love the idea of a draft lottery for picks 1-5 where the first 4 teams (2 in each league) get a draft pick for being on the cusp. The 5th pick should go to the team that made it with the worst season record.
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So there has never been a season canceled due to a strike or lockout. In 94 the post season was canceled due to a strike but that was because they decided to strike in August as opposed to being locked like this year in December. There will be baseball that much I can say. How much, that remains to be seen. But the owners, as always, are the jacka s s e s who want to keep all the money and not pay the players. The value of teams keeps going up yet the share of revenue the players receive is stagnant. If you’re a player you are basically an indentured servant until you breakout. Most players in the minor leagues don’t even receive minimum wage for their services. That’s obnoxious with how much revenue these teams make not just from the product on the field but from advertising, ticket sales, parking and concessions and merchandising. Most players in the Minor leagues don’t even have adequate health care or dental coverage. This is a real problem and the players union is 100% right to expect a modicum of decency when it comes to basic necessities. If I’m the players I wouldn’t budge one inch and force these greedy billionaires to pony up. And also force the owners to get rid of Rob Manfred who is one the worst commissioners in baseball history but heck baseball hasn’t had a decent commissioner since Peter Uberoth.
