It's Time to Reign in Flipping
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@gradekthebard said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
Me:
What inflates prices are the LTO card offerings combined with collection requirements.
You:
Not true. It isn't done on Gehrigs and Turners.
Say, aren’t the Gehrig and Turner cards LTO?
Thanks for proving my point!!
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@x8114xmafiax_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@raylewissb47_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@x8114xmafiax_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@savefarris_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
Why does flipping need to be reigned in now? Because the flippers drastically inflate prices on desired cards
Not true in the slightest. Flippers actually decrease prices because they’re constantly undercutting each other.
What inflates prices are the LTO card offerings combined with collection requirements.
LTO?
Limited time only
Thank you. But were there really any LTO cards this year? I assume the poster meant early Event Rewards.
Of course they were limited once that event ended; but once they released the Rewind Packs, you could obtain them again.
Also, one could say Inning Bosses we're LTO, but once this current Inning dropped; you could earn them again.
Having them out of rotation for so long built up a backlog of buy orders that are only now starting to get filled.
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@savefarris_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@x8114xmafiax_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@raylewissb47_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@x8114xmafiax_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@savefarris_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
Why does flipping need to be reigned in now? Because the flippers drastically inflate prices on desired cards
Not true in the slightest. Flippers actually decrease prices because they’re constantly undercutting each other.
What inflates prices are the LTO card offerings combined with collection requirements.
LTO?
Limited time only
Thank you. But were there really any LTO cards this year? I assume the poster meant early Event Rewards.
Of course they were limited once that event ended; but once they released the Rewind Packs, you could obtain them again.
Also, one could say Inning Bosses we're LTO, but once this current Inning dropped; you could earn them again.
Having them out of rotation for so long built up a backlog of buy orders that are only now starting to get filled.
A good example was the gold breakout Duke Snider it was capped at the max price for months with a long waitlist.
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Better yet. Make it a flat rate tiered market. Each card in a tier can be purchased and sold for the same amount with no tax by SDS. This way, the cards don't inflate in price, you can still get some stubs for extra cards, and, I believe, SDS will actually sell more stubs for the hungry players that don't want to take the time to earn the cards.
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@raylewissb47_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@savefarris_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@x8114xmafiax_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@raylewissb47_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@x8114xmafiax_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@savefarris_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
Why does flipping need to be reigned in now? Because the flippers drastically inflate prices on desired cards
Not true in the slightest. Flippers actually decrease prices because they’re constantly undercutting each other.
What inflates prices are the LTO card offerings combined with collection requirements.
LTO?
Limited time only
Thank you. But were there really any LTO cards this year? I assume the poster meant early Event Rewards.
Of course they were limited once that event ended; but once they released the Rewind Packs, you could obtain them again.
Also, one could say Inning Bosses we're LTO, but once this current Inning dropped; you could earn them again.
Having them out of rotation for so long built up a backlog of buy orders that are only now starting to get filled.
A good example was the gold breakout Duke Snider it was capped at the max price for months with a long waitlist.
One could argue it was only backlogged because of the limit on which you could sell Snider for
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@eatyum_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@raylewissb47_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@savefarris_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@x8114xmafiax_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@raylewissb47_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@x8114xmafiax_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@savefarris_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
Why does flipping need to be reigned in now? Because the flippers drastically inflate prices on desired cards
Not true in the slightest. Flippers actually decrease prices because they’re constantly undercutting each other.
What inflates prices are the LTO card offerings combined with collection requirements.
LTO?
Limited time only
Thank you. But were there really any LTO cards this year? I assume the poster meant early Event Rewards.
Of course they were limited once that event ended; but once they released the Rewind Packs, you could obtain them again.
Also, one could say Inning Bosses we're LTO, but once this current Inning dropped; you could earn them again.
Having them out of rotation for so long built up a backlog of buy orders that are only now starting to get filled.
A good example was the gold breakout Duke Snider it was capped at the max price for months with a long waitlist.
One could argue it was only backlogged because of the limit on which you could sell Snider for
That was another factor that caused problems.
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@danh35_xbl said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
If people want to waste their time flipping, who cares? You can get more than enough stubs just by playing. I never spent any time flipping on the market and I’m sitting at around 11 million stubs right now.
Agreed here….1 good diamond investment for me (Albies), then simply selling bosses high, buying back low….investments for programs ahead of time and loaded up.
I actually went through and bought all jerseys, equipment, sponsorships, etc just to complete collections and burn stubs.
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@ikasnu_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
Flipping is fun af. Its too time consuming anymore for me so I prefer investing.
I flip to complete collections and build a base for which I can invest from.
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@blind_bleeder said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
Better yet. Make it a flat rate tiered market. Each card in a tier can be purchased and sold for the same amount with no tax by SDS. This way, the cards don't inflate in price, you can still get some stubs for extra cards, and, I believe, SDS will actually sell more stubs for the hungry players that don't want to take the time to earn the cards.
Enact that plan and the number of people playing online drops to almost zero because there’s no longer any incentive to grind for cards.
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@savefarris_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@blind_bleeder said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
Better yet. Make it a flat rate tiered market. Each card in a tier can be purchased and sold for the same amount with no tax by SDS. This way, the cards don't inflate in price, you can still get some stubs for extra cards, and, I believe, SDS will actually sell more stubs for the hungry players that don't want to take the time to earn the cards.
Enact that plan and the number of people playing online drops to almost zero because there’s no longer any incentive to grind for cards.
I don't agree. The main reason I grind for cards is to use them in my lineup, not to sell them in the market. I play MLBTS to play baseball, not to sell cards.
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@blind_bleeder said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@savefarris_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@blind_bleeder said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
Better yet. Make it a flat rate tiered market. Each card in a tier can be purchased and sold for the same amount with no tax by SDS. This way, the cards don't inflate in price, you can still get some stubs for extra cards, and, I believe, SDS will actually sell more stubs for the hungry players that don't want to take the time to earn the cards.
Enact that plan and the number of people playing online drops to almost zero because there’s no longer any incentive to grind for cards.
I don't agree. The main reason I grind for cards is to use them in my lineup, not to sell in them market. I play MLBTS to play baseball, not to sell cards.
His point was that if you grind for one card, and all the cards in that tier cost the same, you wouldn't need to grind for more at that position because all you have to do is exchange that card for a different one.
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@eatyum_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@blind_bleeder said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@savefarris_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@blind_bleeder said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
Better yet. Make it a flat rate tiered market. Each card in a tier can be purchased and sold for the same amount with no tax by SDS. This way, the cards don't inflate in price, you can still get some stubs for extra cards, and, I believe, SDS will actually sell more stubs for the hungry players that don't want to take the time to earn the cards.
Enact that plan and the number of people playing online drops to almost zero because there’s no longer any incentive to grind for cards.
I don't agree. The main reason I grind for cards is to use them in my lineup, not to sell in them market. I play MLBTS to play baseball, not to sell cards.
His point was that if you grind for one card, and all the cards in that tier cost the same, you wouldn't need to grind for more at that position because all you have to do is exchange that card for a different one.
If you grind for a card and you get it, then you move on to grind for the next card. If you get a duplicate (like from a pack) you can certainly exchange it for another card, or use the stubs from that card towards a better card at a higher tier.
You will still need to grind to get cards unless you use stubs to just buy them outright in the market. How are you going to get the stubs? Either grind for them or buy them from SDS.
If a players focus is on playing the game, they will not stop or quit playing.
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@blind_bleeder said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@eatyum_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@blind_bleeder said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@savefarris_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@blind_bleeder said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
Better yet. Make it a flat rate tiered market. Each card in a tier can be purchased and sold for the same amount with no tax by SDS. This way, the cards don't inflate in price, you can still get some stubs for extra cards, and, I believe, SDS will actually sell more stubs for the hungry players that don't want to take the time to earn the cards.
Enact that plan and the number of people playing online drops to almost zero because there’s no longer any incentive to grind for cards.
I don't agree. The main reason I grind for cards is to use them in my lineup, not to sell in them market. I play MLBTS to play baseball, not to sell cards.
His point was that if you grind for one card, and all the cards in that tier cost the same, you wouldn't need to grind for more at that position because all you have to do is exchange that card for a different one.
If you grind for a card and you get it, then you move on to grind for the next card. If you get a duplicate (like from a pack) you can certainly exchange it for another card, or use the stubs from that card towards a better card at a higher tier.
You will still need to grind to get cards unless you use stubs to just buy them outright in the market. How are you going to get the stubs? Either grind for them or buy them from SDS.
If a players focus is on playing the game, they will not stop or quit playing.
Why would I move on to grind for the next card? If every card in a tier sells and buys for the same I don't need to. Great I got 99 Don Mattingly!, Oh look 99 Lou Gehrig came out, I don't need to grind for him though, I'll sell Mattingly and get Gehrig and skip the grind. And I can continue to do that for the entire game since every card in that tier sells for the same amount.
I can constantly go back and forth exchanging cards with no consequences, so once I have one 99 at a position, I can use them all whenever I want to
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@eatyum_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@blind_bleeder said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@eatyum_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@blind_bleeder said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@savefarris_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@blind_bleeder said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
Better yet. Make it a flat rate tiered market. Each card in a tier can be purchased and sold for the same amount with no tax by SDS. This way, the cards don't inflate in price, you can still get some stubs for extra cards, and, I believe, SDS will actually sell more stubs for the hungry players that don't want to take the time to earn the cards.
Enact that plan and the number of people playing online drops to almost zero because there’s no longer any incentive to grind for cards.
I don't agree. The main reason I grind for cards is to use them in my lineup, not to sell in them market. I play MLBTS to play baseball, not to sell cards.
His point was that if you grind for one card, and all the cards in that tier cost the same, you wouldn't need to grind for more at that position because all you have to do is exchange that card for a different one.
If you grind for a card and you get it, then you move on to grind for the next card. If you get a duplicate (like from a pack) you can certainly exchange it for another card, or use the stubs from that card towards a better card at a higher tier.
You will still need to grind to get cards unless you use stubs to just buy them outright in the market. How are you going to get the stubs? Either grind for them or buy them from SDS.
If a players focus is on playing the game, they will not stop or quit playing.
Why would I move on to grind for the next card? If every card in a tier sells and buys for the same I don't need to. Great I got 99 Don Mattingly!, Oh look 99 Lou Gehrig came out, I don't need to grind for him though, I'll sell Mattingly and get Gehrig and skip the grind. And I can continue to do that for the entire game since every card in that tier sells for the same amount.
But you have to get that 99 Mattingly from somewhere...
The same goes for any card you would sell in the market. You have to get it from somewhere.
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@blind_bleeder said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@eatyum_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@blind_bleeder said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@eatyum_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@blind_bleeder said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@savefarris_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@blind_bleeder said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
Better yet. Make it a flat rate tiered market. Each card in a tier can be purchased and sold for the same amount with no tax by SDS. This way, the cards don't inflate in price, you can still get some stubs for extra cards, and, I believe, SDS will actually sell more stubs for the hungry players that don't want to take the time to earn the cards.
Enact that plan and the number of people playing online drops to almost zero because there’s no longer any incentive to grind for cards.
I don't agree. The main reason I grind for cards is to use them in my lineup, not to sell in them market. I play MLBTS to play baseball, not to sell cards.
His point was that if you grind for one card, and all the cards in that tier cost the same, you wouldn't need to grind for more at that position because all you have to do is exchange that card for a different one.
If you grind for a card and you get it, then you move on to grind for the next card. If you get a duplicate (like from a pack) you can certainly exchange it for another card, or use the stubs from that card towards a better card at a higher tier.
You will still need to grind to get cards unless you use stubs to just buy them outright in the market. How are you going to get the stubs? Either grind for them or buy them from SDS.
If a players focus is on playing the game, they will not stop or quit playing.
Why would I move on to grind for the next card? If every card in a tier sells and buys for the same I don't need to. Great I got 99 Don Mattingly!, Oh look 99 Lou Gehrig came out, I don't need to grind for him though, I'll sell Mattingly and get Gehrig and skip the grind. And I can continue to do that for the entire game since every card in that tier sells for the same amount.
But you have to get that 99 Mattingly from somewhere...
Yes, correct, which leads me back to my original comment.
"His point was that if you grind for one card, and all the cards in that tier cost the same, you wouldn't need to grind for more at that position because all you have to do is exchange that card for a different one."
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@ikasnu_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
Flipping is fun af. Its too time consuming anymore for me so I prefer investing.
Bitcoin?
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@savefarris_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@x8114xmafiax_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@raylewissb47_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@x8114xmafiax_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@savefarris_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
Why does flipping need to be reigned in now? Because the flippers drastically inflate prices on desired cards
Not true in the slightest. Flippers actually decrease prices because they’re constantly undercutting each other.
What inflates prices are the LTO card offerings combined with collection requirements.
LTO?
Limited time only
Thank you. But were there really any LTO cards this year? I assume the poster meant early Event Rewards.
Of course they were limited once that event ended; but once they released the Rewind Packs, you could obtain them again.
Also, one could say Inning Bosses we're LTO, but once this current Inning dropped; you could earn them again.
Having them out of rotation for so long built up a backlog of buy orders that are only now starting to get filled.
Ok. I can see that point. But how does SDS rectify that? By including past henchmen packs in future Inning Programs? Maybe one or two at the end of the XP path instead of a 5pk The Show Bundle?
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@arvcpa_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@ikasnu_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
Flipping is fun af. Its too time consuming anymore for me so I prefer investing.
Bitcoin?
Beany Babies
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@raylewissb47_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@savefarris_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@x8114xmafiax_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@raylewissb47_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@x8114xmafiax_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@savefarris_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
Why does flipping need to be reigned in now? Because the flippers drastically inflate prices on desired cards
Not true in the slightest. Flippers actually decrease prices because they’re constantly undercutting each other.
What inflates prices are the LTO card offerings combined with collection requirements.
LTO?
Limited time only
Thank you. But were there really any LTO cards this year? I assume the poster meant early Event Rewards.
Of course they were limited once that event ended; but once they released the Rewind Packs, you could obtain them again.
Also, one could say Inning Bosses we're LTO, but once this current Inning dropped; you could earn them again.
Having them out of rotation for so long built up a backlog of buy orders that are only now starting to get filled.
A good example was the gold breakout Duke Snider it was capped at the max price for months with a long waitlist.
Wasn't that a Ranked Reward for making Pennant Series? The only option for something like that is to make those cards available year round.
Also, touching back on what @SaveFarris_PSN stated; if SDS does decide to not limit the availability of Henchmen then you may haps people complaining because that was a way for them to make stubs. Which also touches on what the original poster stated about flipping.
It's pretty much a no win situation. But I do understand everyone's opinion
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@x8114xmafiax_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@raylewissb47_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@savefarris_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@x8114xmafiax_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@raylewissb47_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@x8114xmafiax_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
@savefarris_psn said in It's Time to Reign in Flipping:
Why does flipping need to be reigned in now? Because the flippers drastically inflate prices on desired cards
Not true in the slightest. Flippers actually decrease prices because they’re constantly undercutting each other.
What inflates prices are the LTO card offerings combined with collection requirements.
LTO?
Limited time only
Thank you. But were there really any LTO cards this year? I assume the poster meant early Event Rewards.
Of course they were limited once that event ended; but once they released the Rewind Packs, you could obtain them again.
Also, one could say Inning Bosses we're LTO, but once this current Inning dropped; you could earn them again.
Having them out of rotation for so long built up a backlog of buy orders that are only now starting to get filled.
A good example was the gold breakout Duke Snider it was capped at the max price for months with a long waitlist.
Wasn't that a Ranked Reward for making Pennant Series? The only option for something like that is to make those cards available year round.
Also, touching back on what @SaveFarris_PSN stated; if SDS does decide to not limit the availability of Henchmen then you may haps people complaining because that was a way for them to make stubs. Which also touches on what the original poster stated about flipping.
It's pretty much a no win situation. But I do understand everyone's opinion
It might have been. I don’t play online and I just remember sitting in a queue for a long time waiting to get it.
