Kluber or Arrieta?
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@mrad2010_xbl said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
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Thanks for the replies! I thought Kluber had a slightly better pitch mix when I compared the 2 cards earlier, but I think Arrieta had slightly better per 9's.
Honestly, you can keep guys off balance for 9 innings with Arrieta's sinker/slider alone. Mix in the occasional curveballs to keep people honest and they'll look silly if they swing on that pitch because it looks exactly like the sinker coming out of his hand. And his slider acts more like a cutter, it's thrown hard and breaks really hard at the last second. If you pound that pitch low and in against batters hitting lefty, it's almost impossible to make good contact on that pitch if they swing. And they will swing.
This is great advice, thanks! I heard Arrieta had a really good slider, so I'm glad that seems to be the case.
I can't decide now haha maybe I should just sell him and buy another guy off the market? Who's your favorite 99 pitcher to use? I already have Verlander as well.
Klubers curve/slider is filthy. Arrieta is really good but Klubers stuff is one of the best in the game.
The few times I have had to face Kluber, the opponent made me look silly. I couldn't lay off that Slurve.
Does Kluber have a similar pitch mix to Corbin Burnes? I feel like they are similar (minus the Slurve).
Kluber has Sinker,cutter,slurve,4 seam and change up. Pretty much the perfect pitch mix imo. The thing I really prefer him over Arrieta is his control. I don’t know what their controls stats are off the top of my head but I do know Arrieta has a tendency of throwing pitches down the middle randomly.
Kluber control:
Sinker 90
Cutter 87
Slurve 99
4seam 85
Changeup 82Arrieta control:
Sinker 99
Slider 92
4seam 90
Curveball 92
Changeup 80Kluber break:
Sinker 85
Cutter 92
Slurve 99
4seam 88
Changeup 92Arrieta break:
Sinker 99
Slider 97
4seam 80
Curveball 99
Changeup 99 -
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Thanks for the replies! I thought Kluber had a slightly better pitch mix when I compared the 2 cards earlier, but I think Arrieta had slightly better per 9's.
Honestly, you can keep guys off balance for 9 innings with Arrieta's sinker/slider alone. Mix in the occasional curveballs to keep people honest and they'll look silly if they swing on that pitch because it looks exactly like the sinker coming out of his hand. And his slider acts more like a cutter, it's thrown hard and breaks really hard at the last second. If you pound that pitch low and in against batters hitting lefty, it's almost impossible to make good contact on that pitch if they swing. And they will swing.
This is great advice, thanks! I heard Arrieta had a really good slider, so I'm glad that seems to be the case.
I can't decide now haha maybe I should just sell him and buy another guy off the market? Who's your favorite 99 pitcher to use? I already have Verlander as well.
Klubers curve/slider is filthy. Arrieta is really good but Klubers stuff is one of the best in the game.
The few times I have had to face Kluber, the opponent made me look silly. I couldn't lay off that Slurve.
Does Kluber have a similar pitch mix to Corbin Burnes? I feel like they are similar (minus the Slurve).
Kluber has Sinker,cutter,slurve,4 seam and change up. Pretty much the perfect pitch mix imo. The thing I really prefer him over Arrieta is his control. I don’t know what their controls stats are off the top of my head but I do know Arrieta has a tendency of throwing pitches down the middle randomly.
Kluber control:
Sinker 90
Cutter 87
Slurve 99
4seam 85
Changeup 82Arrieta control:
Sinker 99
Slider 92
4seam 90
Curveball 92
Changeup 80Kluber break:
Sinker 85
Cutter 92
Slurve 99
4seam 88
Changeup 92Arrieta break:
Sinker 99
Slider 97
4seam 80
Curveball 99
Changeup 99On paper Arrieta looks like the better pitcher. His control doesn’t feel like it’s as good as his stats. Maybe it’s user error.
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@mrad2010_xbl said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
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@supremeloser_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
Thanks for the replies! I thought Kluber had a slightly better pitch mix when I compared the 2 cards earlier, but I think Arrieta had slightly better per 9's.
Honestly, you can keep guys off balance for 9 innings with Arrieta's sinker/slider alone. Mix in the occasional curveballs to keep people honest and they'll look silly if they swing on that pitch because it looks exactly like the sinker coming out of his hand. And his slider acts more like a cutter, it's thrown hard and breaks really hard at the last second. If you pound that pitch low and in against batters hitting lefty, it's almost impossible to make good contact on that pitch if they swing. And they will swing.
This is great advice, thanks! I heard Arrieta had a really good slider, so I'm glad that seems to be the case.
I can't decide now haha maybe I should just sell him and buy another guy off the market? Who's your favorite 99 pitcher to use? I already have Verlander as well.
Klubers curve/slider is filthy. Arrieta is really good but Klubers stuff is one of the best in the game.
The few times I have had to face Kluber, the opponent made me look silly. I couldn't lay off that Slurve.
Does Kluber have a similar pitch mix to Corbin Burnes? I feel like they are similar (minus the Slurve).
Kluber has Sinker,cutter,slurve,4 seam and change up. Pretty much the perfect pitch mix imo. The thing I really prefer him over Arrieta is his control. I don’t know what their controls stats are off the top of my head but I do know Arrieta has a tendency of throwing pitches down the middle randomly.
Kluber control:
Sinker 90
Cutter 87
Slurve 99
4seam 85
Changeup 82Arrieta control:
Sinker 99
Slider 92
4seam 90
Curveball 92
Changeup 80Kluber break:
Sinker 85
Cutter 92
Slurve 99
4seam 88
Changeup 92Arrieta break:
Sinker 99
Slider 97
4seam 80
Curveball 99
Changeup 99On paper Arrieta looks like the better pitcher. His control doesn’t feel like it’s as good as his stats. Maybe it’s user error.
Oh well it's all preference at the end of the day. I've shut most of my opponents down with Arrieta but I'm sure Kluber would do the same.
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@raesone_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
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@raesone_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@supremeloser_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
Thanks for the replies! I thought Kluber had a slightly better pitch mix when I compared the 2 cards earlier, but I think Arrieta had slightly better per 9's.
Honestly, you can keep guys off balance for 9 innings with Arrieta's sinker/slider alone. Mix in the occasional curveballs to keep people honest and they'll look silly if they swing on that pitch because it looks exactly like the sinker coming out of his hand. And his slider acts more like a cutter, it's thrown hard and breaks really hard at the last second. If you pound that pitch low and in against batters hitting lefty, it's almost impossible to make good contact on that pitch if they swing. And they will swing.
This is great advice, thanks! I heard Arrieta had a really good slider, so I'm glad that seems to be the case.
I can't decide now haha maybe I should just sell him and buy another guy off the market? Who's your favorite 99 pitcher to use? I already have Verlander as well.
Klubers curve/slider is filthy. Arrieta is really good but Klubers stuff is one of the best in the game.
The few times I have had to face Kluber, the opponent made me look silly. I couldn't lay off that Slurve.
Does Kluber have a similar pitch mix to Corbin Burnes? I feel like they are similar (minus the Slurve).
Kluber has Sinker,cutter,slurve,4 seam and change up. Pretty much the perfect pitch mix imo. The thing I really prefer him over Arrieta is his control. I don’t know what their controls stats are off the top of my head but I do know Arrieta has a tendency of throwing pitches down the middle randomly.
Kluber control:
Sinker 90
Cutter 87
Slurve 99
4seam 85
Changeup 82Arrieta control:
Sinker 99
Slider 92
4seam 90
Curveball 92
Changeup 80Kluber break:
Sinker 85
Cutter 92
Slurve 99
4seam 88
Changeup 92Arrieta break:
Sinker 99
Slider 97
4seam 80
Curveball 99
Changeup 99On paper Arrieta looks like the better pitcher. His control doesn’t feel like it’s as good as his stats. Maybe it’s user error.
Oh well it's all preference at the end of the day. I've shut most of my opponents down with Arrieta but I'm sure Kluber would do the same.
Exactly. They’re both top notch. I have a feeling that you’re pretty good at this game and know how to pitch with anyone. I saw your other comment about inside cutters and sliders and you know what you’re talking about.
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@mrad2010_xbl said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
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@raesone_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@supremeloser_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
Thanks for the replies! I thought Kluber had a slightly better pitch mix when I compared the 2 cards earlier, but I think Arrieta had slightly better per 9's.
Honestly, you can keep guys off balance for 9 innings with Arrieta's sinker/slider alone. Mix in the occasional curveballs to keep people honest and they'll look silly if they swing on that pitch because it looks exactly like the sinker coming out of his hand. And his slider acts more like a cutter, it's thrown hard and breaks really hard at the last second. If you pound that pitch low and in against batters hitting lefty, it's almost impossible to make good contact on that pitch if they swing. And they will swing.
This is great advice, thanks! I heard Arrieta had a really good slider, so I'm glad that seems to be the case.
I can't decide now haha maybe I should just sell him and buy another guy off the market? Who's your favorite 99 pitcher to use? I already have Verlander as well.
Klubers curve/slider is filthy. Arrieta is really good but Klubers stuff is one of the best in the game.
The few times I have had to face Kluber, the opponent made me look silly. I couldn't lay off that Slurve.
Does Kluber have a similar pitch mix to Corbin Burnes? I feel like they are similar (minus the Slurve).
Kluber has Sinker,cutter,slurve,4 seam and change up. Pretty much the perfect pitch mix imo. The thing I really prefer him over Arrieta is his control. I don’t know what their controls stats are off the top of my head but I do know Arrieta has a tendency of throwing pitches down the middle randomly.
Kluber control:
Sinker 90
Cutter 87
Slurve 99
4seam 85
Changeup 82Arrieta control:
Sinker 99
Slider 92
4seam 90
Curveball 92
Changeup 80Kluber break:
Sinker 85
Cutter 92
Slurve 99
4seam 88
Changeup 92Arrieta break:
Sinker 99
Slider 97
4seam 80
Curveball 99
Changeup 99On paper Arrieta looks like the better pitcher. His control doesn’t feel like it’s as good as his stats. Maybe it’s user error.
Oh well it's all preference at the end of the day. I've shut most of my opponents down with Arrieta but I'm sure Kluber would do the same.
Exactly. They’re both top notch. I have a feeling that you’re pretty good at this game and know how to pitch with anyone. I saw your other comment about inside cutters and sliders and you know what you’re talking about.
I've been playing this game for a while and played very intensely in previous years, competing for a spot in the top 50. But I don't play as much anymore because I've grown frustrated with the direction the game has taken.
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@raesone_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
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@supremeloser_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
Thanks for the replies! I thought Kluber had a slightly better pitch mix when I compared the 2 cards earlier, but I think Arrieta had slightly better per 9's.
Honestly, you can keep guys off balance for 9 innings with Arrieta's sinker/slider alone. Mix in the occasional curveballs to keep people honest and they'll look silly if they swing on that pitch because it looks exactly like the sinker coming out of his hand. And his slider acts more like a cutter, it's thrown hard and breaks really hard at the last second. If you pound that pitch low and in against batters hitting lefty, it's almost impossible to make good contact on that pitch if they swing. And they will swing.
This is great advice, thanks! I heard Arrieta had a really good slider, so I'm glad that seems to be the case.
I can't decide now haha maybe I should just sell him and buy another guy off the market? Who's your favorite 99 pitcher to use? I already have Verlander as well.
Klubers curve/slider is filthy. Arrieta is really good but Klubers stuff is one of the best in the game.
The few times I have had to face Kluber, the opponent made me look silly. I couldn't lay off that Slurve.
Does Kluber have a similar pitch mix to Corbin Burnes? I feel like they are similar (minus the Slurve).
Kluber has Sinker,cutter,slurve,4 seam and change up. Pretty much the perfect pitch mix imo. The thing I really prefer him over Arrieta is his control. I don’t know what their controls stats are off the top of my head but I do know Arrieta has a tendency of throwing pitches down the middle randomly.
Kluber control:
Sinker 90
Cutter 87
Slurve 99
4seam 85
Changeup 82Arrieta control:
Sinker 99
Slider 92
4seam 90
Curveball 92
Changeup 80Kluber break:
Sinker 85
Cutter 92
Slurve 99
4seam 88
Changeup 92Arrieta break:
Sinker 99
Slider 97
4seam 80
Curveball 99
Changeup 99On paper Arrieta looks like the better pitcher. His control doesn’t feel like it’s as good as his stats. Maybe it’s user error.
Oh well it's all preference at the end of the day. I've shut most of my opponents down with Arrieta but I'm sure Kluber would do the same.
Exactly. They’re both top notch. I have a feeling that you’re pretty good at this game and know how to pitch with anyone. I saw your other comment about inside cutters and sliders and you know what you’re talking about.
I've been playing this game for a while and played very intensely in previous years, competing for a spot in the top 50. But I don't play as much anymore because I've grown frustrated with the direction the game has taken.
Understandable. I respect that.
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@raesone_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
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@supremeloser_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
Thanks for the replies! I thought Kluber had a slightly better pitch mix when I compared the 2 cards earlier, but I think Arrieta had slightly better per 9's.
Honestly, you can keep guys off balance for 9 innings with Arrieta's sinker/slider alone. Mix in the occasional curveballs to keep people honest and they'll look silly if they swing on that pitch because it looks exactly like the sinker coming out of his hand. And his slider acts more like a cutter, it's thrown hard and breaks really hard at the last second. If you pound that pitch low and in against batters hitting lefty, it's almost impossible to make good contact on that pitch if they swing. And they will swing.
This is great advice, thanks! I heard Arrieta had a really good slider, so I'm glad that seems to be the case.
I can't decide now haha maybe I should just sell him and buy another guy off the market? Who's your favorite 99 pitcher to use? I already have Verlander as well.
Klubers curve/slider is filthy. Arrieta is really good but Klubers stuff is one of the best in the game.
The few times I have had to face Kluber, the opponent made me look silly. I couldn't lay off that Slurve.
Does Kluber have a similar pitch mix to Corbin Burnes? I feel like they are similar (minus the Slurve).
Kluber has Sinker,cutter,slurve,4 seam and change up. Pretty much the perfect pitch mix imo. The thing I really prefer him over Arrieta is his control. I don’t know what their controls stats are off the top of my head but I do know Arrieta has a tendency of throwing pitches down the middle randomly.
Kluber control:
Sinker 90
Cutter 87
Slurve 99
4seam 85
Changeup 82Arrieta control:
Sinker 99
Slider 92
4seam 90
Curveball 92
Changeup 80Kluber break:
Sinker 85
Cutter 92
Slurve 99
4seam 88
Changeup 92Arrieta break:
Sinker 99
Slider 97
4seam 80
Curveball 99
Changeup 99I appreciate the breakdown! Both pitchers look great on paper, so I think I'll just try them both out and see what happens.
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So far with Kluber I am 33.0 IP, 3.82 ERA 0.88 WHIP and 39 ks. Arrieta- 41.0 IP 1.10 ERA 0.51 WHIP and 54ks. I prefer Arrieta more right now.
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Kluber all day. That slurve is nasty and tunnels too well with both the cutter and the sinker. Plus the sinker seems to surprise people -- it plays faster than its quoted velo.
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Also, both those guys are go-to's on HOF and Legend. Opinions vary on All Star.
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@supremeloser_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
I have 99/100 points in the BR program right now and I'm wondering which of these 2 I should pick when I get the pack at 100 pts.
I used Kluber a lot in MLB 20 (as most probably did) but I heard the Arrieta card was really good this year.
I know it's January and I probably won't play much Ranked anymore, but I'm just curious which of these 2 guys you have had more success with (or which one is easier for you to hit off of).
Thanks!
Got them both they are great but if I got to chose i'll pick kluber for the pitch selection and also his delivery ... I still rush with arrieta to pinpoint regulary. Good luck !
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