Kluber or Arrieta?
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@supremeloser_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@mrad2010_xbl said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
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@raesone_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@supremeloser_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
Thanks for the replies! I thought Kluber had a slightly better pitch mix when I compared the 2 cards earlier, but I think Arrieta had slightly better per 9's.
Honestly, you can keep guys off balance for 9 innings with Arrieta's sinker/slider alone. Mix in the occasional curveballs to keep people honest and they'll look silly if they swing on that pitch because it looks exactly like the sinker coming out of his hand. And his slider acts more like a cutter, it's thrown hard and breaks really hard at the last second. If you pound that pitch low and in against batters hitting lefty, it's almost impossible to make good contact on that pitch if they swing. And they will swing.
This is great advice, thanks! I heard Arrieta had a really good slider, so I'm glad that seems to be the case.
I can't decide now haha maybe I should just sell him and buy another guy off the market? Who's your favorite 99 pitcher to use? I already have Verlander as well.
Klubers curve/slider is filthy. Arrieta is really good but Klubers stuff is one of the best in the game.
The few times I have had to face Kluber, the opponent made me look silly. I couldn't lay off that Slurve.
Does Kluber have a similar pitch mix to Corbin Burnes? I feel like they are similar (minus the Slurve).
Kluber has Sinker,cutter,slurve,4 seam and change up. Pretty much the perfect pitch mix imo. The thing I really prefer him over Arrieta is his control. I don’t know what their controls stats are off the top of my head but I do know Arrieta has a tendency of throwing pitches down the middle randomly.
Good to know, thanks! I like using cards that have great control instead of just running outlier pitchers all the time (even if that strategy is pretty viable most of the time).
I think I remember hearing that the 99 Hershiser card was a little disappointing this year, has anyone had any experience with that?
I have Orel too. He’s really underwhelming imo. Not terrible but he’s not very deceptive with his pitches like his other card, like someone said in this chat Logan Webb is good and I also really like Coke Hamels. He’s underrated imo,
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@ericulous1_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
Great debate. I love that these two are kind of synonymous in the game. I have great success with both Kluber and Arrieta. Arietta has the amazing H/9 though Kluber is no slouch. Personally I'd go with Kluber for that sinker/cutter combo. His slurve gets overlooked but has a nasty break.
@VK_Ratliff_PSN, I also think Chris Sale is under utilized, his release point is a huge challenge to hit. Also, Albert Pujols has 14 seasons with 100+ RBIs, only matched by Aroid. He also loved puppies and Blind kids.
And......he's Batman
I love that everyone has some great feedback about both of these cards, although it seems like Kluber gets a little more love. I'll probably try both out and report back with my thoughts at a later date.
I am also intrigued about getting that 99 Sale card as well. I think I might sell my Signature Aroldis Chapman card to get the stubs I would need for Sale (as he's around 690,000 at the moment).
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@supremeloser_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@ericulous1_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
Great debate. I love that these two are kind of synonymous in the game. I have great success with both Kluber and Arrieta. Arietta has the amazing H/9 though Kluber is no slouch. Personally I'd go with Kluber for that sinker/cutter combo. His slurve gets overlooked but has a nasty break.
@VK_Ratliff_PSN, I also think Chris Sale is under utilized, his release point is a huge challenge to hit. Also, Albert Pujols has 14 seasons with 100+ RBIs, only matched by Aroid. He also loved puppies and Blind kids.
And......he's Batman
I love that everyone has some great feedback about both of these cards, although it seems like Kluber gets a little more love. I'll probably try both out and report back with my thoughts at a later date.
I am also intrigued about getting that 99 Sale card as well. I think I might sell my Signature Aroldis Chapman card to get the stubs I would need for Sale (as he's around 690,000 at the moment).
Chapman is really good. Maybe the best closer in the game. I do think Chris Sale is pretty good but not better than Kluber or Arrieta but that’s just my opinion.
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@mrad2010_xbl said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@supremeloser_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@mrad2010_xbl said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
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@supremeloser_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
Thanks for the replies! I thought Kluber had a slightly better pitch mix when I compared the 2 cards earlier, but I think Arrieta had slightly better per 9's.
Honestly, you can keep guys off balance for 9 innings with Arrieta's sinker/slider alone. Mix in the occasional curveballs to keep people honest and they'll look silly if they swing on that pitch because it looks exactly like the sinker coming out of his hand. And his slider acts more like a cutter, it's thrown hard and breaks really hard at the last second. If you pound that pitch low and in against batters hitting lefty, it's almost impossible to make good contact on that pitch if they swing. And they will swing.
This is great advice, thanks! I heard Arrieta had a really good slider, so I'm glad that seems to be the case.
I can't decide now haha maybe I should just sell him and buy another guy off the market? Who's your favorite 99 pitcher to use? I already have Verlander as well.
Klubers curve/slider is filthy. Arrieta is really good but Klubers stuff is one of the best in the game.
The few times I have had to face Kluber, the opponent made me look silly. I couldn't lay off that Slurve.
Does Kluber have a similar pitch mix to Corbin Burnes? I feel like they are similar (minus the Slurve).
Kluber has Sinker,cutter,slurve,4 seam and change up. Pretty much the perfect pitch mix imo. The thing I really prefer him over Arrieta is his control. I don’t know what their controls stats are off the top of my head but I do know Arrieta has a tendency of throwing pitches down the middle randomly.
Good to know, thanks! I like using cards that have great control instead of just running outlier pitchers all the time (even if that strategy is pretty viable most of the time).
I think I remember hearing that the 99 Hershiser card was a little disappointing this year, has anyone had any experience with that?
I have Orel too. He’s really underwhelming imo. Not terrible but he’s not very deceptive with his pitches like his other card, like someone said in this chat Logan Webb is good and I also really like Coke Hamels. He’s underrated imo,
That's a shame about Orel...I do like using that Hamels card though, at least on my skill level in ranked.
I still need to use that Logan Webb card, which intrigues me now.
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@supremeloser_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@mrad2010_xbl said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
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@mrad2010_xbl said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@supremeloser_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@mrad2010_xbl said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
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@supremeloser_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
Thanks for the replies! I thought Kluber had a slightly better pitch mix when I compared the 2 cards earlier, but I think Arrieta had slightly better per 9's.
Honestly, you can keep guys off balance for 9 innings with Arrieta's sinker/slider alone. Mix in the occasional curveballs to keep people honest and they'll look silly if they swing on that pitch because it looks exactly like the sinker coming out of his hand. And his slider acts more like a cutter, it's thrown hard and breaks really hard at the last second. If you pound that pitch low and in against batters hitting lefty, it's almost impossible to make good contact on that pitch if they swing. And they will swing.
This is great advice, thanks! I heard Arrieta had a really good slider, so I'm glad that seems to be the case.
I can't decide now haha maybe I should just sell him and buy another guy off the market? Who's your favorite 99 pitcher to use? I already have Verlander as well.
Klubers curve/slider is filthy. Arrieta is really good but Klubers stuff is one of the best in the game.
The few times I have had to face Kluber, the opponent made me look silly. I couldn't lay off that Slurve.
Does Kluber have a similar pitch mix to Corbin Burnes? I feel like they are similar (minus the Slurve).
Kluber has Sinker,cutter,slurve,4 seam and change up. Pretty much the perfect pitch mix imo. The thing I really prefer him over Arrieta is his control. I don’t know what their controls stats are off the top of my head but I do know Arrieta has a tendency of throwing pitches down the middle randomly.
Good to know, thanks! I like using cards that have great control instead of just running outlier pitchers all the time (even if that strategy is pretty viable most of the time).
I think I remember hearing that the 99 Hershiser card was a little disappointing this year, has anyone had any experience with that?
I have Orel too. He’s really underwhelming imo. Not terrible but he’s not very deceptive with his pitches like his other card, like someone said in this chat Logan Webb is good and I also really like Coke Hamels. He’s underrated imo,
That's a shame about Orel...I do like using that Hamels card though, at least on my skill level in ranked.
I still need to use that Logan Webb card, which intrigues me now.
Another sleeper card imo is the Monthly awards Walker Buehler. I think that one is better than his finest. I don’t know why but having max break on everything is crazy.
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@mrad2010_xbl said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@supremeloser_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@ericulous1_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
Great debate. I love that these two are kind of synonymous in the game. I have great success with both Kluber and Arrieta. Arietta has the amazing H/9 though Kluber is no slouch. Personally I'd go with Kluber for that sinker/cutter combo. His slurve gets overlooked but has a nasty break.
@VK_Ratliff_PSN, I also think Chris Sale is under utilized, his release point is a huge challenge to hit. Also, Albert Pujols has 14 seasons with 100+ RBIs, only matched by Aroid. He also loved puppies and Blind kids.
And......he's Batman
I love that everyone has some great feedback about both of these cards, although it seems like Kluber gets a little more love. I'll probably try both out and report back with my thoughts at a later date.
I am also intrigued about getting that 99 Sale card as well. I think I might sell my Signature Aroldis Chapman card to get the stubs I would need for Sale (as he's around 690,000 at the moment).
Chapman is really good. Maybe the best closer in the game. I do think Chris Sale is pretty good but not better than Kluber or Arrieta but that’s just my opinion.
I like the Chapman card, but my only issue is that I almost never get to use him as most of my opponents quit before the 5th inning if I have a lead and my starter is barely tired. I think I only have like 12 innings used with Chapman all of last month.
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@supremeloser_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@mrad2010_xbl said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@supremeloser_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@ericulous1_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
Great debate. I love that these two are kind of synonymous in the game. I have great success with both Kluber and Arrieta. Arietta has the amazing H/9 though Kluber is no slouch. Personally I'd go with Kluber for that sinker/cutter combo. His slurve gets overlooked but has a nasty break.
@VK_Ratliff_PSN, I also think Chris Sale is under utilized, his release point is a huge challenge to hit. Also, Albert Pujols has 14 seasons with 100+ RBIs, only matched by Aroid. He also loved puppies and Blind kids.
And......he's Batman
I love that everyone has some great feedback about both of these cards, although it seems like Kluber gets a little more love. I'll probably try both out and report back with my thoughts at a later date.
I am also intrigued about getting that 99 Sale card as well. I think I might sell my Signature Aroldis Chapman card to get the stubs I would need for Sale (as he's around 690,000 at the moment).
Chapman is really good. Maybe the best closer in the game. I do think Chris Sale is pretty good but not better than Kluber or Arrieta but that’s just my opinion.
I like the Chapman card, but my only issue is that I almost never get to use him as most of my opponents quit before the 5th inning if I have a lead and my starter is barely tired. I think I only have like 12 innings used with Chapman all of last month.
That’s one of the biggest problems with this game. Closers aren’t that useful when pitchers can throw like 200 pitches a game.
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@mrad2010_xbl said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@supremeloser_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@mrad2010_xbl said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@supremeloser_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@mrad2010_xbl said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@supremeloser_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@mrad2010_xbl said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
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@raesone_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@supremeloser_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
Thanks for the replies! I thought Kluber had a slightly better pitch mix when I compared the 2 cards earlier, but I think Arrieta had slightly better per 9's.
Honestly, you can keep guys off balance for 9 innings with Arrieta's sinker/slider alone. Mix in the occasional curveballs to keep people honest and they'll look silly if they swing on that pitch because it looks exactly like the sinker coming out of his hand. And his slider acts more like a cutter, it's thrown hard and breaks really hard at the last second. If you pound that pitch low and in against batters hitting lefty, it's almost impossible to make good contact on that pitch if they swing. And they will swing.
This is great advice, thanks! I heard Arrieta had a really good slider, so I'm glad that seems to be the case.
I can't decide now haha maybe I should just sell him and buy another guy off the market? Who's your favorite 99 pitcher to use? I already have Verlander as well.
Klubers curve/slider is filthy. Arrieta is really good but Klubers stuff is one of the best in the game.
The few times I have had to face Kluber, the opponent made me look silly. I couldn't lay off that Slurve.
Does Kluber have a similar pitch mix to Corbin Burnes? I feel like they are similar (minus the Slurve).
Kluber has Sinker,cutter,slurve,4 seam and change up. Pretty much the perfect pitch mix imo. The thing I really prefer him over Arrieta is his control. I don’t know what their controls stats are off the top of my head but I do know Arrieta has a tendency of throwing pitches down the middle randomly.
Good to know, thanks! I like using cards that have great control instead of just running outlier pitchers all the time (even if that strategy is pretty viable most of the time).
I think I remember hearing that the 99 Hershiser card was a little disappointing this year, has anyone had any experience with that?
I have Orel too. He’s really underwhelming imo. Not terrible but he’s not very deceptive with his pitches like his other card, like someone said in this chat Logan Webb is good and I also really like Coke Hamels. He’s underrated imo,
That's a shame about Orel...I do like using that Hamels card though, at least on my skill level in ranked.
I still need to use that Logan Webb card, which intrigues me now.
Another sleeper card imo is the Monthly awards Walker Buehler. I think that one is better than his finest. I don’t know why but having max break on everything is crazy.
That's another card I've probably unfairly overlooked...I'm gonna try him and Webb out tonight.
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@mrad2010_xbl said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@supremeloser_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@mrad2010_xbl said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@supremeloser_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@raesone_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@supremeloser_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
Thanks for the replies! I thought Kluber had a slightly better pitch mix when I compared the 2 cards earlier, but I think Arrieta had slightly better per 9's.
Honestly, you can keep guys off balance for 9 innings with Arrieta's sinker/slider alone. Mix in the occasional curveballs to keep people honest and they'll look silly if they swing on that pitch because it looks exactly like the sinker coming out of his hand. And his slider acts more like a cutter, it's thrown hard and breaks really hard at the last second. If you pound that pitch low and in against batters hitting lefty, it's almost impossible to make good contact on that pitch if they swing. And they will swing.
This is great advice, thanks! I heard Arrieta had a really good slider, so I'm glad that seems to be the case.
I can't decide now haha maybe I should just sell him and buy another guy off the market? Who's your favorite 99 pitcher to use? I already have Verlander as well.
Klubers curve/slider is filthy. Arrieta is really good but Klubers stuff is one of the best in the game.
The few times I have had to face Kluber, the opponent made me look silly. I couldn't lay off that Slurve.
Does Kluber have a similar pitch mix to Corbin Burnes? I feel like they are similar (minus the Slurve).
Kluber has Sinker,cutter,slurve,4 seam and change up. Pretty much the perfect pitch mix imo. The thing I really prefer him over Arrieta is his control. I don’t know what their controls stats are off the top of my head but I do know Arrieta has a tendency of throwing pitches down the middle randomly.
Kluber control:
Sinker 90
Cutter 87
Slurve 99
4seam 85
Changeup 82Arrieta control:
Sinker 99
Slider 92
4seam 90
Curveball 92
Changeup 80Kluber break:
Sinker 85
Cutter 92
Slurve 99
4seam 88
Changeup 92Arrieta break:
Sinker 99
Slider 97
4seam 80
Curveball 99
Changeup 99 -
@raesone_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@mrad2010_xbl said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@supremeloser_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@mrad2010_xbl said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
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@raesone_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@supremeloser_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
Thanks for the replies! I thought Kluber had a slightly better pitch mix when I compared the 2 cards earlier, but I think Arrieta had slightly better per 9's.
Honestly, you can keep guys off balance for 9 innings with Arrieta's sinker/slider alone. Mix in the occasional curveballs to keep people honest and they'll look silly if they swing on that pitch because it looks exactly like the sinker coming out of his hand. And his slider acts more like a cutter, it's thrown hard and breaks really hard at the last second. If you pound that pitch low and in against batters hitting lefty, it's almost impossible to make good contact on that pitch if they swing. And they will swing.
This is great advice, thanks! I heard Arrieta had a really good slider, so I'm glad that seems to be the case.
I can't decide now haha maybe I should just sell him and buy another guy off the market? Who's your favorite 99 pitcher to use? I already have Verlander as well.
Klubers curve/slider is filthy. Arrieta is really good but Klubers stuff is one of the best in the game.
The few times I have had to face Kluber, the opponent made me look silly. I couldn't lay off that Slurve.
Does Kluber have a similar pitch mix to Corbin Burnes? I feel like they are similar (minus the Slurve).
Kluber has Sinker,cutter,slurve,4 seam and change up. Pretty much the perfect pitch mix imo. The thing I really prefer him over Arrieta is his control. I don’t know what their controls stats are off the top of my head but I do know Arrieta has a tendency of throwing pitches down the middle randomly.
Kluber control:
Sinker 90
Cutter 87
Slurve 99
4seam 85
Changeup 82Arrieta control:
Sinker 99
Slider 92
4seam 90
Curveball 92
Changeup 80Kluber break:
Sinker 85
Cutter 92
Slurve 99
4seam 88
Changeup 92Arrieta break:
Sinker 99
Slider 97
4seam 80
Curveball 99
Changeup 99On paper Arrieta looks like the better pitcher. His control doesn’t feel like it’s as good as his stats. Maybe it’s user error.
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@mrad2010_xbl said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
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@mrad2010_xbl said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
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@raesone_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@supremeloser_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
Thanks for the replies! I thought Kluber had a slightly better pitch mix when I compared the 2 cards earlier, but I think Arrieta had slightly better per 9's.
Honestly, you can keep guys off balance for 9 innings with Arrieta's sinker/slider alone. Mix in the occasional curveballs to keep people honest and they'll look silly if they swing on that pitch because it looks exactly like the sinker coming out of his hand. And his slider acts more like a cutter, it's thrown hard and breaks really hard at the last second. If you pound that pitch low and in against batters hitting lefty, it's almost impossible to make good contact on that pitch if they swing. And they will swing.
This is great advice, thanks! I heard Arrieta had a really good slider, so I'm glad that seems to be the case.
I can't decide now haha maybe I should just sell him and buy another guy off the market? Who's your favorite 99 pitcher to use? I already have Verlander as well.
Klubers curve/slider is filthy. Arrieta is really good but Klubers stuff is one of the best in the game.
The few times I have had to face Kluber, the opponent made me look silly. I couldn't lay off that Slurve.
Does Kluber have a similar pitch mix to Corbin Burnes? I feel like they are similar (minus the Slurve).
Kluber has Sinker,cutter,slurve,4 seam and change up. Pretty much the perfect pitch mix imo. The thing I really prefer him over Arrieta is his control. I don’t know what their controls stats are off the top of my head but I do know Arrieta has a tendency of throwing pitches down the middle randomly.
Kluber control:
Sinker 90
Cutter 87
Slurve 99
4seam 85
Changeup 82Arrieta control:
Sinker 99
Slider 92
4seam 90
Curveball 92
Changeup 80Kluber break:
Sinker 85
Cutter 92
Slurve 99
4seam 88
Changeup 92Arrieta break:
Sinker 99
Slider 97
4seam 80
Curveball 99
Changeup 99On paper Arrieta looks like the better pitcher. His control doesn’t feel like it’s as good as his stats. Maybe it’s user error.
Oh well it's all preference at the end of the day. I've shut most of my opponents down with Arrieta but I'm sure Kluber would do the same.
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@raesone_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@mrad2010_xbl said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
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@mrad2010_xbl said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
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@mrad2010_xbl said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@supremeloser_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@raesone_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
@supremeloser_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
Thanks for the replies! I thought Kluber had a slightly better pitch mix when I compared the 2 cards earlier, but I think Arrieta had slightly better per 9's.
Honestly, you can keep guys off balance for 9 innings with Arrieta's sinker/slider alone. Mix in the occasional curveballs to keep people honest and they'll look silly if they swing on that pitch because it looks exactly like the sinker coming out of his hand. And his slider acts more like a cutter, it's thrown hard and breaks really hard at the last second. If you pound that pitch low and in against batters hitting lefty, it's almost impossible to make good contact on that pitch if they swing. And they will swing.
This is great advice, thanks! I heard Arrieta had a really good slider, so I'm glad that seems to be the case.
I can't decide now haha maybe I should just sell him and buy another guy off the market? Who's your favorite 99 pitcher to use? I already have Verlander as well.
Klubers curve/slider is filthy. Arrieta is really good but Klubers stuff is one of the best in the game.
The few times I have had to face Kluber, the opponent made me look silly. I couldn't lay off that Slurve.
Does Kluber have a similar pitch mix to Corbin Burnes? I feel like they are similar (minus the Slurve).
Kluber has Sinker,cutter,slurve,4 seam and change up. Pretty much the perfect pitch mix imo. The thing I really prefer him over Arrieta is his control. I don’t know what their controls stats are off the top of my head but I do know Arrieta has a tendency of throwing pitches down the middle randomly.
Kluber control:
Sinker 90
Cutter 87
Slurve 99
4seam 85
Changeup 82Arrieta control:
Sinker 99
Slider 92
4seam 90
Curveball 92
Changeup 80Kluber break:
Sinker 85
Cutter 92
Slurve 99
4seam 88
Changeup 92Arrieta break:
Sinker 99
Slider 97
4seam 80
Curveball 99
Changeup 99On paper Arrieta looks like the better pitcher. His control doesn’t feel like it’s as good as his stats. Maybe it’s user error.
Oh well it's all preference at the end of the day. I've shut most of my opponents down with Arrieta but I'm sure Kluber would do the same.
Exactly. They’re both top notch. I have a feeling that you’re pretty good at this game and know how to pitch with anyone. I saw your other comment about inside cutters and sliders and you know what you’re talking about.
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@supremeloser_psn said in Kluber or Arrieta?:
Thanks for the replies! I thought Kluber had a slightly better pitch mix when I compared the 2 cards earlier, but I think Arrieta had slightly better per 9's.
Honestly, you can keep guys off balance for 9 innings with Arrieta's sinker/slider alone. Mix in the occasional curveballs to keep people honest and they'll look silly if they swing on that pitch because it looks exactly like the sinker coming out of his hand. And his slider acts more like a cutter, it's thrown hard and breaks really hard at the last second. If you pound that pitch low and in against batters hitting lefty, it's almost impossible to make good contact on that pitch if they swing. And they will swing.
This is great advice, thanks! I heard Arrieta had a really good slider, so I'm glad that seems to be the case.
I can't decide now haha maybe I should just sell him and buy another guy off the market? Who's your favorite 99 pitcher to use? I already have Verlander as well.
Klubers curve/slider is filthy. Arrieta is really good but Klubers stuff is one of the best in the game.
The few times I have had to face Kluber, the opponent made me look silly. I couldn't lay off that Slurve.
Does Kluber have a similar pitch mix to Corbin Burnes? I feel like they are similar (minus the Slurve).
Kluber has Sinker,cutter,slurve,4 seam and change up. Pretty much the perfect pitch mix imo. The thing I really prefer him over Arrieta is his control. I don’t know what their controls stats are off the top of my head but I do know Arrieta has a tendency of throwing pitches down the middle randomly.
Kluber control:
Sinker 90
Cutter 87
Slurve 99
4seam 85
Changeup 82Arrieta control:
Sinker 99
Slider 92
4seam 90
Curveball 92
Changeup 80Kluber break:
Sinker 85
Cutter 92
Slurve 99
4seam 88
Changeup 92Arrieta break:
Sinker 99
Slider 97
4seam 80
Curveball 99
Changeup 99On paper Arrieta looks like the better pitcher. His control doesn’t feel like it’s as good as his stats. Maybe it’s user error.
Oh well it's all preference at the end of the day. I've shut most of my opponents down with Arrieta but I'm sure Kluber would do the same.
Exactly. They’re both top notch. I have a feeling that you’re pretty good at this game and know how to pitch with anyone. I saw your other comment about inside cutters and sliders and you know what you’re talking about.
I've been playing this game for a while and played very intensely in previous years, competing for a spot in the top 50. But I don't play as much anymore because I've grown frustrated with the direction the game has taken.
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Thanks for the replies! I thought Kluber had a slightly better pitch mix when I compared the 2 cards earlier, but I think Arrieta had slightly better per 9's.
Honestly, you can keep guys off balance for 9 innings with Arrieta's sinker/slider alone. Mix in the occasional curveballs to keep people honest and they'll look silly if they swing on that pitch because it looks exactly like the sinker coming out of his hand. And his slider acts more like a cutter, it's thrown hard and breaks really hard at the last second. If you pound that pitch low and in against batters hitting lefty, it's almost impossible to make good contact on that pitch if they swing. And they will swing.
This is great advice, thanks! I heard Arrieta had a really good slider, so I'm glad that seems to be the case.
I can't decide now haha maybe I should just sell him and buy another guy off the market? Who's your favorite 99 pitcher to use? I already have Verlander as well.
Klubers curve/slider is filthy. Arrieta is really good but Klubers stuff is one of the best in the game.
The few times I have had to face Kluber, the opponent made me look silly. I couldn't lay off that Slurve.
Does Kluber have a similar pitch mix to Corbin Burnes? I feel like they are similar (minus the Slurve).
Kluber has Sinker,cutter,slurve,4 seam and change up. Pretty much the perfect pitch mix imo. The thing I really prefer him over Arrieta is his control. I don’t know what their controls stats are off the top of my head but I do know Arrieta has a tendency of throwing pitches down the middle randomly.
Kluber control:
Sinker 90
Cutter 87
Slurve 99
4seam 85
Changeup 82Arrieta control:
Sinker 99
Slider 92
4seam 90
Curveball 92
Changeup 80Kluber break:
Sinker 85
Cutter 92
Slurve 99
4seam 88
Changeup 92Arrieta break:
Sinker 99
Slider 97
4seam 80
Curveball 99
Changeup 99On paper Arrieta looks like the better pitcher. His control doesn’t feel like it’s as good as his stats. Maybe it’s user error.
Oh well it's all preference at the end of the day. I've shut most of my opponents down with Arrieta but I'm sure Kluber would do the same.
Exactly. They’re both top notch. I have a feeling that you’re pretty good at this game and know how to pitch with anyone. I saw your other comment about inside cutters and sliders and you know what you’re talking about.
I've been playing this game for a while and played very intensely in previous years, competing for a spot in the top 50. But I don't play as much anymore because I've grown frustrated with the direction the game has taken.
Understandable. I respect that.
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Thanks for the replies! I thought Kluber had a slightly better pitch mix when I compared the 2 cards earlier, but I think Arrieta had slightly better per 9's.
Honestly, you can keep guys off balance for 9 innings with Arrieta's sinker/slider alone. Mix in the occasional curveballs to keep people honest and they'll look silly if they swing on that pitch because it looks exactly like the sinker coming out of his hand. And his slider acts more like a cutter, it's thrown hard and breaks really hard at the last second. If you pound that pitch low and in against batters hitting lefty, it's almost impossible to make good contact on that pitch if they swing. And they will swing.
This is great advice, thanks! I heard Arrieta had a really good slider, so I'm glad that seems to be the case.
I can't decide now haha maybe I should just sell him and buy another guy off the market? Who's your favorite 99 pitcher to use? I already have Verlander as well.
Klubers curve/slider is filthy. Arrieta is really good but Klubers stuff is one of the best in the game.
The few times I have had to face Kluber, the opponent made me look silly. I couldn't lay off that Slurve.
Does Kluber have a similar pitch mix to Corbin Burnes? I feel like they are similar (minus the Slurve).
Kluber has Sinker,cutter,slurve,4 seam and change up. Pretty much the perfect pitch mix imo. The thing I really prefer him over Arrieta is his control. I don’t know what their controls stats are off the top of my head but I do know Arrieta has a tendency of throwing pitches down the middle randomly.
Kluber control:
Sinker 90
Cutter 87
Slurve 99
4seam 85
Changeup 82Arrieta control:
Sinker 99
Slider 92
4seam 90
Curveball 92
Changeup 80Kluber break:
Sinker 85
Cutter 92
Slurve 99
4seam 88
Changeup 92Arrieta break:
Sinker 99
Slider 97
4seam 80
Curveball 99
Changeup 99I appreciate the breakdown! Both pitchers look great on paper, so I think I'll just try them both out and see what happens.
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So far with Kluber I am 33.0 IP, 3.82 ERA 0.88 WHIP and 39 ks. Arrieta- 41.0 IP 1.10 ERA 0.51 WHIP and 54ks. I prefer Arrieta more right now.
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Kluber all day. That slurve is nasty and tunnels too well with both the cutter and the sinker. Plus the sinker seems to surprise people -- it plays faster than its quoted velo.
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Also, both those guys are go-to's on HOF and Legend. Opinions vary on All Star.
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I have 99/100 points in the BR program right now and I'm wondering which of these 2 I should pick when I get the pack at 100 pts.
I used Kluber a lot in MLB 20 (as most probably did) but I heard the Arrieta card was really good this year.
I know it's January and I probably won't play much Ranked anymore, but I'm just curious which of these 2 guys you have had more success with (or which one is easier for you to hit off of).
Thanks!
Got them both they are great but if I got to chose i'll pick kluber for the pitch selection and also his delivery ... I still rush with arrieta to pinpoint regulary. Good luck !
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