Finest Trout or Milestone Griffey
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@brainfreeze442 said in Finest Trout or Milestone Griffey:
@ericulous1_psn said in Finest Trout it Milestone Griffey:
@brainfreeze442 said in Finest Trout it Milestone Griffey:
@ericulous1_psn said in Finest Trout it Sig Griffey:
Griffey....Trout...wait, Griffey. No, Trout
Pujols
I know you’re a Pujols fan, but let’s not start talking crazy!
I’m just messing around with you. The card looks awesome. I think they must have gave him a defense boost though, not that I have anything against it.I get that Griffey and Trout play(ed) a much more demanding position but Pujols has 2 gold gloves and was no slouch defensively.
Offensively: it's hard to compare against Trout because Trout has only played 9 years though I would bet that many of Pujols' numbers were higher than Trout's for his first 9 years. There is no denying that Trout has dominated this game in his decade but Pujols' first decade was pretty insane too.
As for Griffey:
Here's how the match up:
Griffey:
Home runs: 630
RBIs: 1,836
Hits: 2,781
Runs: 1,662
Avg.: .284
OBP: .370
0PS: .907
WAR: 83.8
World Series championships: 0 (same as Trout)Pujols:
Home Runs: 679
RBIs: 2,150
Hits: 3,301
Runs: 1,872
Avg.: .297
OBP: .375
OPS: .919
WAR: 99.6
World Championships: 2Believe it or not Pujols has 70 less stolen bases than Griffey. That's all.
I'd say I'm pretty sane. Griffey can definitely roam my outfield and in 8 years, I may crown Trout the king if he keeps up this pace. But for now, give Pujols in his prime the stick every day.
I am not saying I believe it or don’t; but what is your thoughts on what the allegations say about how Pujols got those numbers? I’m not accusing anyone of anything. I’m just curious what you think being a true fan. I respect your opinion.
What do you mean about how he got the numbers? Are you talking about his age or something else?
And trust me, I feel like Griffey should have been the greatest of all time. His injuries were a total shame. I hope Trout can stay healthy. And I'd be totally happy to see him sore past everyone else in terms of the GOAT.
Haha, you don't have to censor your post. I am fairly objective about him despite what it looks like.
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@ericulous1_psn said in Finest Trout it Milestone Griffey:
@brainfreeze442 said in Finest Trout or Milestone Griffey:
@ericulous1_psn said in Finest Trout it Milestone Griffey:
@brainfreeze442 said in Finest Trout it Milestone Griffey:
@ericulous1_psn said in Finest Trout it Sig Griffey:
Griffey....Trout...wait, Griffey. No, Trout
Pujols
I know you’re a Pujols fan, but let’s not start talking crazy!
I’m just messing around with you. The card looks awesome. I think they must have gave him a defense boost though, not that I have anything against it.I get that Griffey and Trout play(ed) a much more demanding position but Pujols has 2 gold gloves and was no slouch defensively.
Offensively: it's hard to compare against Trout because Trout has only played 9 years though I would bet that many of Pujols' numbers were higher than Trout's for his first 9 years. There is no denying that Trout has dominated this game in his decade but Pujols' first decade was pretty insane too.
As for Griffey:
Here's how the match up:
Griffey:
Home runs: 630
RBIs: 1,836
Hits: 2,781
Runs: 1,662
Avg.: .284
OBP: .370
0PS: .907
WAR: 83.8
World Series championships: 0 (same as Trout)Pujols:
Home Runs: 679
RBIs: 2,150
Hits: 3,301
Runs: 1,872
Avg.: .297
OBP: .375
OPS: .919
WAR: 99.6
World Championships: 2Believe it or not Pujols has 70 less stolen bases than Griffey. That's all.
I'd say I'm pretty sane. Griffey can definitely roam my outfield and in 8 years, I may crown Trout the king if he keeps up this pace. But for now, give Pujols in his prime the stick every day.
I am not saying I believe it or don’t; but what is your thoughts on what the allegations say about how Pujols got those numbers? I’m not accusing anyone of anything. I’m just curious what you think being a true fan. I respect your opinion.
What do you mean about how he got the numbers? Are you talking about his age or something else? I'm
Never mind, I think I was thinking of someone else.
And it’s hard to argue who is the best. There are so many players we never got to see play. I think Joe DiMaggio is the greatest, but I can’t say for sure. I only know what I have read.
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@brainfreeze442 said in Finest Trout or Milestone Griffey:
@ericulous1_psn said in Finest Trout it Milestone Griffey:
@brainfreeze442 said in Finest Trout or Milestone Griffey:
@ericulous1_psn said in Finest Trout it Milestone Griffey:
@brainfreeze442 said in Finest Trout it Milestone Griffey:
@ericulous1_psn said in Finest Trout it Sig Griffey:
Griffey....Trout...wait, Griffey. No, Trout
Pujols
I know you’re a Pujols fan, but let’s not start talking crazy!
I’m just messing around with you. The card looks awesome. I think they must have gave him a defense boost though, not that I have anything against it.I get that Griffey and Trout play(ed) a much more demanding position but Pujols has 2 gold gloves and was no slouch defensively.
Offensively: it's hard to compare against Trout because Trout has only played 9 years though I would bet that many of Pujols' numbers were higher than Trout's for his first 9 years. There is no denying that Trout has dominated this game in his decade but Pujols' first decade was pretty insane too.
As for Griffey:
Here's how the match up:
Griffey:
Home runs: 630
RBIs: 1,836
Hits: 2,781
Runs: 1,662
Avg.: .284
OBP: .370
0PS: .907
WAR: 83.8
World Series championships: 0 (same as Trout)Pujols:
Home Runs: 679
RBIs: 2,150
Hits: 3,301
Runs: 1,872
Avg.: .297
OBP: .375
OPS: .919
WAR: 99.6
World Championships: 2Believe it or not Pujols has 70 less stolen bases than Griffey. That's all.
I'd say I'm pretty sane. Griffey can definitely roam my outfield and in 8 years, I may crown Trout the king if he keeps up this pace. But for now, give Pujols in his prime the stick every day.
I am not saying I believe it or don’t; but what is your thoughts on what the allegations say about how Pujols got those numbers? I’m not accusing anyone of anything. I’m just curious what you think being a true fan. I respect your opinion.
What do you mean about how he got the numbers? Are you talking about his age or something else? I'm
Never mind, I think I was thinking of someone else.
Oh hahaha, well, if you're referring to steroids I think he has been clean, he has never tested dirty and has never really been linked to them. But there is always the possibility ans it would break my heart if it ever came out that he did.
I know there is controversy about his age which if true, is a bummer and I wish he'd have been honest. But there is the possibility that he doesn't even truly know. Birth records are not always accurate or available in some countries and I'm certainly not saying anything negative to that effect so please nobody cancel me.
But even if he is a year or 2 older, he still got the numbers organically.
Alright, I'll get off my 🧼
.After saying all that....in the game I'd take Griffey. That swing is immaculate.
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@brainfreeze442 said in Finest Trout or Milestone Griffey:
@ericulous1_psn said in Finest Trout it Milestone Griffey:
@brainfreeze442 said in Finest Trout or Milestone Griffey:
@ericulous1_psn said in Finest Trout it Milestone Griffey:
@brainfreeze442 said in Finest Trout it Milestone Griffey:
@ericulous1_psn said in Finest Trout it Sig Griffey:
Griffey....Trout...wait, Griffey. No, Trout
Pujols
I know you’re a Pujols fan, but let’s not start talking crazy!
I’m just messing around with you. The card looks awesome. I think they must have gave him a defense boost though, not that I have anything against it.I get that Griffey and Trout play(ed) a much more demanding position but Pujols has 2 gold gloves and was no slouch defensively.
Offensively: it's hard to compare against Trout because Trout has only played 9 years though I would bet that many of Pujols' numbers were higher than Trout's for his first 9 years. There is no denying that Trout has dominated this game in his decade but Pujols' first decade was pretty insane too.
As for Griffey:
Here's how the match up:
Griffey:
Home runs: 630
RBIs: 1,836
Hits: 2,781
Runs: 1,662
Avg.: .284
OBP: .370
0PS: .907
WAR: 83.8
World Series championships: 0 (same as Trout)Pujols:
Home Runs: 679
RBIs: 2,150
Hits: 3,301
Runs: 1,872
Avg.: .297
OBP: .375
OPS: .919
WAR: 99.6
World Championships: 2Believe it or not Pujols has 70 less stolen bases than Griffey. That's all.
I'd say I'm pretty sane. Griffey can definitely roam my outfield and in 8 years, I may crown Trout the king if he keeps up this pace. But for now, give Pujols in his prime the stick every day.
I am not saying I believe it or don’t; but what is your thoughts on what the allegations say about how Pujols got those numbers? I’m not accusing anyone of anything. I’m just curious what you think being a true fan. I respect your opinion.
What do you mean about how he got the numbers? Are you talking about his age or something else? I'm
Never mind, I think I was thinking of someone else.
And it’s hard to argue who is the best. There are so many players we never got to see play. I think Joe DiMaggio is the greatest, but I can’t say for sure. I only know what I have read.
Oh absolutely. I'm not saying Pujols is thes best ever, just reminding those that are too young to remember the 2000s how dominant he was.
For the GOAT: obviously the main suspects are Babe, Bonds, Hank, Mays, Teddy Ballgame, Joltin Joe, Mantle, Arod (I just threw up in my mounth), Cobb, Trout etc etc. It really is a challenging debate.
And that doesn't even include Pitchers hahaha.
Sorry @DIRTY-SHAWNCHEZ_PSN . Back on discussion. I pick Griffey Jr. But just barely. He has my preferred swing though they both are insane. And once I get Trout soon
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I got to keep my mouth shut, or phone.
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@ericulous1_psn said in Finest Trout or Milestone Griffey:
@brainfreeze442 said in Finest Trout it Milestone Griffey:
@ericulous1_psn said in Finest Trout it Sig Griffey:
Griffey....Trout...wait, Griffey. No, Trout
Pujols
I know you’re a Pujols fan, but let’s not start talking crazy!
I’m just messing around with you. The card looks awesome. I think they must have gave him a defense boost though, not that I have anything against it.I get that Griffey and Trout play(ed) a much more demanding position but Pujols has 2 gold gloves and was no slouch defensively.
Offensively: it's hard to compare against Trout because Trout has only played 9 years though I would bet that many of Pujols' numbers were higher than Trout's for his first 9 years. There is no denying that Trout has dominated this game in his decade but Pujols' first decade was pretty insane too.
As for Griffey:
Here's how they match up:
Griffey: Pujols:
Home runs: 630. 679
RBIs: 1,836. 2,150
Hits: 2,781. 3,301
Runs: 1,662. 1,872
Avg.: .284. .297
OBP: .370. .375
0PS: .907. .919
WAR: 83.8. 99.6World Series championships: Griffey and Trout combined: 0, Pujols : 2
I'd say I'm pretty sane. Griffey can definitely roam my outfield and in 8 years, I may crown Trout the king if he keeps up this pace. But for now, give Pujols in his prime the stick every day.
All those stats are fake and stupid ... seriously who care about batting average and homeruns when you can flip your cap backwards and hit with this divine godly to much suave swag of a swing ??? YOU ARE A LIAR AND I WILL SAY THIS : for real nice work ! Hahaha
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Griffey and didn't even have to think about it! Who was the other option?
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@raienez_psn said in Finest Trout or Milestone Griffey:
@ericulous1_psn said in Finest Trout or Milestone Griffey:
@brainfreeze442 said in Finest Trout it Milestone Griffey:
@ericulous1_psn said in Finest Trout it Sig Griffey:
Griffey....Trout...wait, Griffey. No, Trout
Pujols
I know you’re a Pujols fan, but let’s not start talking crazy!
I’m just messing around with you. The card looks awesome. I think they must have gave him a defense boost though, not that I have anything against it.I get that Griffey and Trout play(ed) a much more demanding position but Pujols has 2 gold gloves and was no slouch defensively.
Offensively: it's hard to compare against Trout because Trout has only played 9 years though I would bet that many of Pujols' numbers were higher than Trout's for his first 9 years. There is no denying that Trout has dominated this game in his decade but Pujols' first decade was pretty insane too.
As for Griffey:
Here's how they match up:
Griffey: Pujols:
Home runs: 630. 679
RBIs: 1,836. 2,150
Hits: 2,781. 3,301
Runs: 1,662. 1,872
Avg.: .284. .297
OBP: .370. .375
0PS: .907. .919
WAR: 83.8. 99.6World Series championships: Griffey and Trout combined: 0, Pujols : 2
I'd say I'm pretty sane. Griffey can definitely roam my outfield and in 8 years, I may crown Trout the king if he keeps up this pace. But for now, give Pujols in his prime the stick every day.
All those stats are fake and stupid ... seriously who care about batting average and homeruns when you can flip your cap backwards and hit with this divine godly to much suave swag of a swing ??? YOU ARE A LIAR AND I WILL SAY THIS : for real nice work ! Hahaha
Um......what?
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Call me crazy but i find it extremely laughable people are considering Trout a GOAT or even top 10 of all time. Outfielders MAYBE creeping into the conversation….but overall as a player he has a longgggg way to go and sure as hell needs to stay healthy
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@jonblaze2424_psn said in Finest Trout or Milestone Griffey:
Call me crazy but i find it extremely laughable people are considering Trout a GOAT or even top 10 of all time. Outfielders MAYBE creeping into the conversation….but overall as a player he has a longgggg way to go and sure as hell needs to stay healthy
I agree that’s he might not be top 10 yet but what he’s done in a short amount of time is really impressive.
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@mrad2010_xbl said in Finest Trout or Milestone Griffey:
@jonblaze2424_psn said in Finest Trout or Milestone Griffey:
Call me crazy but i find it extremely laughable people are considering Trout a GOAT or even top 10 of all time. Outfielders MAYBE creeping into the conversation….but overall as a player he has a longgggg way to go and sure as hell needs to stay healthy
I agree that’s he might not be top 10 yet but what he’s done in a short amount of time is really impressive.
Oh absolutely, he’s an amazing baseball player. But people are already putting him on the mt Rushmore which just ain’t it
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@jonblaze2424_psn said in Finest Trout or Milestone Griffey:
@mrad2010_xbl said in Finest Trout or Milestone Griffey:
@jonblaze2424_psn said in Finest Trout or Milestone Griffey:
Call me crazy but i find it extremely laughable people are considering Trout a GOAT or even top 10 of all time. Outfielders MAYBE creeping into the conversation….but overall as a player he has a longgggg way to go and sure as hell needs to stay healthy
I agree that’s he might not be top 10 yet but what he’s done in a short amount of time is really impressive.
Oh absolutely, he’s an amazing baseball player. But people are already putting him on the mt Rushmore which just ain’t it
Yeah. I agree. He needs more gsmes under his belt first. I think that’s always the case with all sports though. People always want someone to be the next great. Like Lebron and Kobe when they were still young being compared to Jordan. It’s like can’t they just be good in their own right and not have to compete with who was great. Just enjoy their talents for what they are.
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@jonblaze2424_psn said in Finest Trout or Milestone Griffey:
Call me crazy but i find it extremely laughable people are considering Trout a GOAT or even top 10 of all time. Outfielders MAYBE creeping into the conversation….but overall as a player he has a longgggg way to go and sure as hell needs to stay healthy
Yep....you nailed it. Trout is incredible. But we have no idea what the future holds. This year was pretty sobering as a reminder that the body breaks down after a decade of baseball. Look at Griffey. Look at Miggy and Pujols. The first decade of all their careers had them on a trajectory to hit 800 Home Runs and be the GOAT. Unless you are Bonds and juicing, you don't get better as you age. If Trout has 5 or 6 more dominant years, then we can have the top 10 conversation.
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Griffey career was killed by some bad injuries! If he didn't get injured he would had broken All time HR record !
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I have had Griffey a touch longer than Trout so my review might be biased. Trout for me is either a rope base hit through the hole between SS and 3rd, a fly ball out to the warning track or a bomb to Center. Mostly flyball outs however, it is probably user error. Also despite the speed, Trout can not steal a base. I guess I like Griffey's swing better. He seems to have power to all fields. He drives up and away pitches to the left center gap with no issues. Ive also had better success stealing with Jr than Trout despite the speed disparity.
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