Historic Rosters 2021
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Nolan Ryan. Career WAR = 81.3
NYM
Seaver WAR = 76.1
Ryan WAR = 3.0LA/CAL
Finley WAR = 52.0
Ryan WAR = 40.0HOU
Oswalt WAR = 45.7
Dierker WAR = 34.3
Wilson WAR = 27.5
Ryan WAR = 25.4TEX
Hough WAR = 32.6
Rogers WAR = 31.2
Jenkins WAR = 21.8
Darvish WAR = 18.5
Brown WAR = 17.7
Perry WAR = 15/2
Ryan WAR = 15.2Career
Seaver WAR = 106.1
Ryan WAR = 83.6
Finley WAR = 52.0
Oswalt WAR = 49.9
Dierker WAR = 34.3
Wilson WAR = 27.5
Hough WAR = 39.0
Rogers WAR = 50.5
Jenkins WAR = 82.2
Darvish WAR = 26.8
Brown WAR = 68.2Based on franchise WAR Nolan Ryan is not the best pitcher for any franchise that he played on. Yet, he is #20 all time in career WAR. Of the top franchise WAR players for the franchises Ryan played on only Tom Seaver had a better Career WAR than Ryan did.
So, if I rate a player only based on franchise WAR then Ryan isn't the best pitcher on any team I put him on yet he was one of the best pitchers in the history of baseball. That's clearly not something I'm interested in doing on my roster.
In the end it all depends on what the roster maker is looking for in his/her roster. What you're looking for is not the same thing that I'm looking for. Neither is right, and neither is wrong, they are just different.
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Chuck Finley played more years for the angels 14 compared to ryan's 9 which is the only reason he has a higher war and just because he had higher war than ryan doesn't mean his attributes will be higher, it means he did contribute more to the angels on the field than nolan, but certainly not to the game of baseball. I was not suggesting rating players based on franchise war but simply including them on the roster of a team based on that. I think part of our difference is that I am thinking all time great franchise roster where as you are looking at all time great players first and then assigning them to a team, and neither is wrong, after all it is your roster and you are the one putting all the work in.
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I added ATL and uploaded a new version of the ALL TIME GREATS roster to the MLBTS21 Roster vault. It now includes all teams in the AL East, AL Central, AL West, and ATL. Up next is MIA.
Roster name is ALL TIME GREATS under user biebig2010.
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Great work! Any chance you'll be able to do any historical teams this winter? Wish we could have transferred rosters from 20 but it is what it is. Love the greats roster as always!
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@macdonald433_psn said in Historic Rosters 2021:
Great work! Any chance you'll be able to do any historical teams this winter? Wish we could have transferred rosters from 20 but it is what it is. Love the greats roster as always!
Unfortunately it is extremely unlikely I'll be able to do any rosters in MLBTS21 other than the All Time Greats before MLBTS22 is released. It took 6+ months to create 16 teams worth of players (over 1000 players) and I have 14 more teams to go (~900 more players). I expect MLBTS22 to be released around April 1 of 2022 so that leaves me <5 months to finish the last 14 teams.
"If" there are roster transfers in MLBTS22 then I'll transfer the All Time Greats to MLBTS22 fairly quickly and will start working on additional team related rosters for MLBTS22. The big "If" is whether or not MLBTS22 supports roster transfers though.
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Boy I hope they do. I don't understand why they did'nt make it available for 21. Was it because of next gen?
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@macdonald433_psn said in Historic Rosters 2021:
Boy I hope they do. I don't understand why they did'nt make it available for 21. Was it because of next gen?
I remember hearing something about nextgen was the reason because someone wouldn't endorse the product on both PS and Xbox unless both versions had the exact same features. Because there was no xbox last year it couldn't possibly support transferring rosters from xbox last year to xbox this year so they didn't include roster or franchise transfers.
That all may be a bunch of bs but I suppose it's possible.
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Yikes! Does make crazy sense.
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I added MIA and rerated BOS and uploaded a new version of the ALL TIME GREATS roster to the MLBTS21 Roster vault. It now includes all teams in the AL East, AL Central, and AL West plus ATL and MIA. It also includes rerated BAL and BOS teams.
Roster name is ALL TIME GREATS under user biebig2010.
Next up is NYM and rerated NYY.
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I added NYM and rerated NYY attributes and uploaded a new version of the ALL TIME GREATS roster to the MLBTS21 Roster vault. It now includes all teams in the AL East, AL Central, AL West, ATL, MIA, NYM. It also includes rerated BAL, BOS, NYY teams.
Roster name is ALL TIME GREATS under user biebig2010.
Next up is PHI and rerated TB.
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I added PHI and rerated TB attributes and uploaded a new version of the ALL TIME GREATS roster to the MLBTS21 Roster vault. It now includes all teams in the AL East, AL Central, AL West, ATL, MIA, NYM, PHI. It also includes rerated BAL, BOS, NYY, TB teams.
Roster name is ALL TIME GREATS under user biebig2010.
Next up is WASH and rerated TOR.
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I added WASH/MON and rerated TOR attributes and uploaded a new version of the ALL TIME GREATS roster to the MLBTS21 Roster vault. It now includes all teams in the AL East, AL Central, AL West, and NL East. It also includes rerated AL East teams.
Roster name is ALL TIME GREATS under user biebig2010.
Next up is CHC and rerated CWS.
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I added CHC and rerated CWS attributes and uploaded a new version of the ALL TIME GREATS roster to the MLBTS21 Roster vault. It now includes all teams in the AL East, AL Central, AL West, NL East, and CHC. It also includes rerated AL East and CWS teams.
Roster name is ALL TIME GREATS under user biebig2010.
Next up is CIN and rerated CLE.
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I added CIN and rerated CLE attributes and uploaded a new version of the ALL TIME GREATS roster to the MLBTS21 Roster vault. It now includes all teams in the AL East, AL Central, AL West, NL East, CHC, and CIN. It also includes rerated AL East, CWS, and CLE teams.
Roster name is ALL TIME GREATS under user biebig2010.
Next up is MIL and rerated DET.
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I added MIL and rerated DET attributes and uploaded a new version of the ALL TIME GREATS roster to the MLBTS21 Roster vault. It now includes all teams in the AL East, AL Central, AL West, NL East, CHC, CIN, and MIL. It also includes rerated AL East, CWS, CLE, and DET teams.
Roster name is ALL TIME GREATS under user biebig2010.
Next up is PIT and rerated KC.
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I added PIT and rerated KC attributes and uploaded a new version of the ALL TIME GREATS roster to the MLBTS21 Roster vault. It now includes all teams in the AL East, AL Central, AL West, NL East, CHC, CIN, MIL, and PIT. It also includes rerated AL East, CWS, CLE, DET, and KC teams.
Roster name is ALL TIME GREATS under user biebig2010.
Next up is STL and rerated MIN. -
I added STL and rerated MIN attributes and uploaded a new version of the ALL TIME GREATS roster to the MLBTS21 Roster vault. It now includes all teams in the AL East, AL Central, AL West, NL East, and NL Central. It also includes rerated AL East and AL Central teams.
Roster name is ALL TIME GREATS under user biebig2010.
Next up is ARI and rerated HOU.
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@biebig2010_psn said in Historic Rosters 2021:
I added STL and rerated MIN attributes and uploaded a new version of the ALL TIME GREATS roster to the MLBTS21 Roster vault. It now includes all teams in the AL East, AL Central, AL West, NL East, and NL Central. It also includes rerated AL East and AL Central teams.
Roster name is ALL TIME GREATS under user biebig2010.
Next up is ARI and rerated LAA.
One of my favorite rosters to use appreciate the work
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@jake98833_psn said in Historic Rosters 2021:
@biebig2010_psn said in Historic Rosters 2021:
I added STL and rerated MIN attributes and uploaded a new version of the ALL TIME GREATS roster to the MLBTS21 Roster vault. It now includes all teams in the AL East, AL Central, AL West, NL East, and NL Central. It also includes rerated AL East and AL Central teams.
Roster name is ALL TIME GREATS under user biebig2010.
Next up is ARI and rerated LAA.
One of my favorite rosters to use appreciate the work
Thanks, glad you like it.
